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Ok, just wanted to put this up here.
I come from the legendary HTC HD2 so I know nothing is impossible from win6.5 to android is huge
Do you guys think a port of win8 will be possible? i mean they said 1gb of RAM is enough to run win8... and 1.5GHz should not be a problem if Atom is 1.6GHz, since we can overclock it and stuff..
so, is it possible, or whats talking against it?
Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
On the other hand, there are developers who will try just for the fun of it. Will it be usuable to the general public? I doubt it....
Somebody tell Microsoft!
Hey this thing is already running a version of Linux, you see any ports to a full blown linux tablet?
Nice idea thou, the new Windows 8 looks to be finger friendly
yeah i know it will be a pain in the arse, but hey - some people like to do this just for the fun and recognition - you know, be the one who finally managed to hack win8 and port it to a android device.
its been done before, and i think many will be donating to help.
its a fun thing.. imagine dual boot
You could install Ubuntu on the Flyer, but for what , I don't know.
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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There are a few reasons why it will never work, most of them people already mentioned
1. You can't compare a 1.6Ghz Intel x86 processor to a 1.6Ghz ARM one, the Flyer is well below the minimum specs.
2. Microsoft will not publicly release their ARM builds, they will only sell them directly to OEMs unlike the desktop version of Windows 8.
3. It's closed source.
4. If someone does miraculously manage to get it running (hey this is xda), functionality will be extremely limited as there is no legacy app support for ARM.
You could install Ubuntu like DigitalMD said and put Win8 on a VM in there.... doubt it would boot though and you would have to find chuck norris and make him round-house kick the lag.
From ALL of the Tablets on the Market, I have checked out ALL of them. The one that I'm the happiest with is the Sprint HTC EVO View Tablet. It's the LOUDEST of ANY & ALL Tablets on the market. Anywhere from a little bit to a lot louder. I know that it's just a 7" screen, but it has the best sound. I would like to get Windows 8 on the HTC EVO View Tablet. i hope that ANYONE can come up with a solution to this. If anyone can come up with a solution to this, then I would put it on the HTC EVO View Tablet ASAP!
It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
kudosmog said:
It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
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I have a slate 500. Did you set it to the higher resolution? Win 8 should work, although the screen is a bit off at the higher resolution.
A bit off topic, I know...
Well that was just one aspect of it.
We weren't able to set the resolution any higher then the max 1024x600. It just wouldn't allow anything higher. It *runs* but anytime you click/swipe etc it vomits error messages.
Still, so many challenges keeping it from happening on the view/flyer. It's a pipe dream.
Yeah this ain't gonna happen. Already got a very good , usable OS.
I"d spend my time improving that and creating better apps
Is it possible looking at hardware? Yes, I think so. The architecture should be fine, as there is an ARM version.
However, what do we need?
-Drivers for Windows 8, and if we want to make this work out correctly, we do need the ability to write drivers ourselves, which is a lot of work.
-A custom bootloader. I hope that, after we get ICS to boot on the Flyer correctly, we can work on a bootloader, as it would be really nice for a real tweakers-tablet, so there might be a possibility for this (not giving an ETA, as I don't know how much work it is and it will take a lot of time, don't get excited on this at all...)
And besides, when we can work on a native Linux-distribution, I don't think it's worth it to work on W8, especially because every way we get it running is not legal. Oh, and let's not forget the work it takes to get it to boot, as it would take quite some magic to get a Windows kernel booting.
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Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
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and what do you think about windows phone 7 on the HD2? i believe it was extremely hard, but people made it
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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f**k you... don't write total bull****s here... it's not a noob forum. i didn't see any other complaints except people's noobiness.. they'll get used to the new controls. they're just awesome.
Naysayers always say nay. I'm amazed at the accomplishments @ XDA thus far and have learned never say never. I for one would love to see this happen.
Some people do things because their told it can't be done.
im using the rtm windows 8 right now i gotta say its pretty good ...early builds had issues but they did good quicker smother would be awesome if they could get windows 8 on my VIEW cuz its def built for mobile ...splashtop for now
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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Technically possilbe, but it's extreemely unlikely to happen. Especially since windows is in no way open source, and the flyer doesn't have that many modders.
So, was browsing the Internet, when I found this..
Canonical has started releasing its own, ARM optimised Ubuntu versions for Android devices...
It runs alongside Android and has access to almost all its apps like Phone, Contacts, User apps etc..
It seems to be basically meant for Dual-Cores and when combined with a docking station, you have a full-fledged Ubuntu running on a Dual-Core chipset which you can view in full screen size on your TV Screen n stuff..
Read more here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/21/2812424/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on
PS: Don't you, in your wildest dream, think of running it on our lil screens with a Single core, 600mhz processor...
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Wow, exciting! Too bad there's nothing concrete for users to try right now (unless I missed something).
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
Not At All MEANT for us....
If you read the full articles, it makes quite a lot of sense for a person who moves around a lot. Also the processing power in high-end phones should be enough for the OS to offer a decent experience.
One more reason to hold on to our beloved P500 for one more year and save the upgrade money for a multi-core phone . At least this way, when you upgrade you will be able to really feel the difference.
Thank you!
Greets!
Why not work on p500? Win7 runs on on 1GHz single core... 600MHz for an optimized version of ubuntu should work...
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I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
kennethso168 said:
I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
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There is no mobile device that can run 2 OSs in the same boot... you need a lot of ram and tons of cpu... my 2.8GHz can't handle the android emulator...
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But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
arczangel said:
Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
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Aha... yep... n dats why i said not to dream about running it on our phones...
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RockR172 said:
But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
mDroidd said:
Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
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Haha... yep... but there can be some fanboys... you gotta consider em all...
Note will do it best, you wont even need a docking station or whatever stuff required to connect it to a larger display...
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Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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I have read that ubuntu reguires atleast a 4.0 inch screen which makes it difficult on optimus one !
THIS IS OFF TOPIC, IGNORE IF U WISH.. JUST WRITING MY MIND..
sweetnsour said:
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
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ahahha...
I honestly bought my phone to play ANGRY BIRDS..!!
thats all..
and today in my college, looking at my phone and all the4 modifications i have made in the months, friends say that i should sell my phone to LG at around 1lac ($2000) and become the brand ambassador for LG O1..
So here i'd like to thank ppl i know who helped me get this praise..
Thanks to
> mik (my 1st custom ROM, Official CM support)
> popdog (sweetest ROM ever)
> luporiph & Arjen (ICS, woah!!)
> Franco & fserve (all be damned if not for them)
> sweetnsour, vlt96 n many others for time to time helps
> capslock for this Reverse Tether
> noobs (make me feel "Like A Boss" )
taranfx said:
Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
Blueyedevil said:
Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
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Its still in alpha.. and few months later we are gonna see quad cores... so give it sometime.. remember the 1st few alphas of cm9 by lupohirp?? Remember the lags/flickers etc??
Where are they now?? Gone ryt??
Similarly, give ubuntu some time, it will run better...
N dont forget, that video uses a phone running 1ghz dual core thats not OC'd...
So give it sometime, it will be up and running just the way it does on PC...
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The future is already here
There are already lightweight linux distros for embedded systems.
ArchLinuxARM for example runs on devices not much more powerful than our P500s
Pogoplug - 800Mhz ARMv5te 128 MB RAM & NAND
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4
You wouldn't run X on them. That's just eye candy.
But add a external USB hard drive, they become perfect
low power servers for media streaming, automated BT,
automated data backups, small webservers.
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/support/guides/applications
Anyhoots, once a smartphone is EOL, it might be a good
project to repurpose them for the above tasks.
Oh yah, take a look at the $25 - $35 Raspberry Pi at wikipedia
Hey guys, didn't know where exactly to put this, but imo it fits best here (if not please tell me)
So i thought about fooling around with software and hardware, basicly: getting iOS or win7.8 or win8 on a android device (and i am not talking about some sh** that just looks like it)
As i have no experience in ROMs or anything programming related i just wanted to know if this would be possible?
It would be really awesome as i am very fond of fooling around with hardware devices where you dont expect the software you have xD
Because i heard of some classmate of my cousin who flashed android on his windows-phone (he had some old 6.x version)
Greets Vauvenal7
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Vauvenal7 said:
... getting iOS or win7.8 or win8 on a android device (and i am not talking about some sh** that just looks like it)...
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Well, it's impossible. iOS needs specific HW, plus both OSes are closed source. You can run Android on iStuff and on WinMob devices (HTC HD2) because Android is open source, you can change everything in it without problems.
iOS and WP aren't open source and you can't modify it.
fifo171 said:
Well, it's impossible. iOS needs specific HW, plus both OSes are closed source. You can run Android on iStuff and on WinMob devices (HTC HD2) because Android is open source, you can change everything in it without problems.
iOS and WP aren't open source and you can't modify it.
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Right.
the iPhone has its own processor -- the "A6" is used in the iPhone 5 which is based on the ARMv7, but I'm confident it is different enough to effectively make "porting" the iOS to another hardware platform essentially impossible (short of repackaging an iPhone's internals into a different case).
Now Windows Mobile 8 runs on "Qualcomm Snapdragon S4" chips (according to Wikipedia) which seems a bit safer on the hardware end...but then you're looking at trying to get a closed-source operating system to run on a different hardware..
I'd say Windows Mobile 8 is pooooossible, but it's a very very long stretch. And then, is it really worth it? Or just to say that you did it?
I think I'd just stick to Android since they are GIVING us the operating system. It's like free money!
Thanks guys
Well, pitty :/
And yeah...nothing goes over android xD
But it would have still been fun though^^
Greets Vauvenal7
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Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
Porting an entire OS is a very very VERY complicated process, especially when the hardware of the device is completely different from the hardware that the OS was originally developed for!
evilol said:
Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
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Different hardware variations (resolution CPU Gpu RAM etc.) from within one OS is hard enough to deal with. Then comes issues like closed source OS (iOS) and also compatability of apps, etc.
Let's just say you can't choose your OS.
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Lol wut?
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evilol said:
Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
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Everyone above's right..
Also....
Marketing my dear watson.
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evilol said:
Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
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In a way, you can. Now multiple VMs work on Android. For example, Bochs.
With that you can run almost any OS on your phone, I have a installation of Win 95, FreeDOS and Damn Small Linux on my phone.
evilol said:
Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
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Because we can't....
ARM devices are not like x86 (your computer's) platform. Nothing is standard, not even how the device reads the power-button.
As a result, the hardware is not built around the software but the software has to be modified and compiled for the hardware. Including of course the (closed source) drivers the community would need to build from scratch or steal from the manufacturer.
Go get htc hd 2 and choose your OS!
Hit thanks if i helped u.
evilol said:
Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
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BC android is better than all those
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Two words: Too Hard
Horcrux08 said:
Go get htc hd 2 and choose your OS!
Hit thanks if i helped u.
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Exactly. It was my first Android device, even though it originally had WP 6.5 on it. Now it can run android, WP7, Windows RT, Meego, Linux, win95, you name it
win95, you name it
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Slightly OT but naming Win95 is a bit unfair. Win95 works through cross-platform hardware emulation (not even virtualization) so if someone ports the underlying QEMU to any phone it will be able to boot x86 16bit software such as Win95
evilol said:
Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
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Tbh money is what it boils down to. If the phone manufactures wanted they could make an agreement on a version set of standards but some companies (apple) are not sharing profit
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Glebun said:
Exactly. It was my first Android device, even though it originally had WP 6.5 on it. Now it can run android, WP7, Windows RT, Meego, Linux, win95, you name it
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Agreed.
Hit thanks if i helped u.
evilol said:
Title.
Why can't we choose our OS?
why can't we put WINDOW PHONE 8,7, NEXUS'S 4.2, even IOS?
why? can some1 explain that to me?
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The full answer rests for most part on drivers. At the top level, some OS's such as iOS are designed to "talk" with a specific CPU and will work exclusively with it. The manufacturer provides a limited development platform that does not extend to the finer mechanics of the CPU. Below the CPU, there are other components that need an OS specific driver (Camera, GPS, Modem, Sensors etc...), that are written and designed specifically for each OS and are generally not transferable between the different OS's.
Devices like the HTC Leo were released with an open development platform and SDK's, that encompassed most of the device's hardware components, which made it "relatively" easy for developers to customize other OS's to talk with the devices' hardware components. The Leo's case in point is rare.
As for the S3, there are currently limited dev resources. This however does not mean a "closed case" for this device. If Samsung releases more tools and info for devs, you may indeed see different OS's ported to the device.
If we take WP8 as an example, the issues are at an even more challenging level at the moment. Devs are currently at a point of exploring the make up and structure of it. Once they have it completely figured out, they'll be able to customize it for specific hardware components (if they have the necessary drivers). Cotula, a leading dev has been able to get WP8 (RT) to work with the Leo, which is an encouraging sign for future ports to other devices.
I am not a developer but I am not exactly unfamiliar with tech. I am trying to understand how different Android phones work with respect to their specs.
For example, I was looking at one with these specs:
OS Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
CPU 1.0GHz Dual Core
512 MB ROM
512 MB RAM
From what I've read, I understand ROM is more on the OS side and RAM is for multitasking. CPU speed is more on how smooth apps are launched or how the phones responds to commands. Did I understand these correctly?
I compared those above against what I have. (I've attached a screenshot of my phone's specs.) I do not understand the entry on the second screeshot re: memory. Is that RAM or ROM? Also with these specs, can I (if at all possible) install or upgrade to ICS?
Thanks in advance!
fpjones3 said:
I am not a developer but I am not exactly unfamiliar with tech. I am trying to understand how different Android phones work with respect to their specs.
For example, I was looking at one with these specs:
OS Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
CPU 1.0GHz Dual Core
512 MB ROM
512 MB RAM
From what I've read, I understand ROM is more on the OS side and RAM is for multitasking. CPU speed is more on how smooth apps are launched or how the phones responds to commands. Did I understand these correctly?
I compared those above against what I have. (I've attached a screenshot of my phone's specs.) I do not understand the entry on the second screeshot re: memory. Is that RAM or ROM? Also with these specs, can I (if at all possible) install or upgrade to ICS?
Thanks in advance!
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Considering your device runs gingerbread, it is not possible to run ICS unless a developer has developed a custom ROM for your device. ROM pertains strictly to the OS itself as a whole, RAM is the devices total memory, as in what's available for the ROM to be stored and any non SD apps to be installed. Hopefully this helps you.
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RE: spec
ROM is not only for OS storage it is also for apps, music, other files etc., but your phone should probably have a mini SD card slot where you can expand this. This is analogous to a hard drive on your computer
Yes, RAM determines how much you can run at once, the Android OS uses up a portion of this. You are also correct about the CPU controls the processing of information so therefore controls 'speed'.
No you will not be able to upgrde to ICS (which isn't even the newest version of Android) because your phone is a dinosaur LOL as your manufacturer probably realises they wouldn't be able to. Also, I've never heard of your phone so it must be really a fly by night company (exaggeration) so there would probably not be a ROM (custom update built by people on this forum) for this device and I don;'t suggest that do so anywys are you are not a technical person and would probably mess it up (I know I did when I started 4 years ago). I would suggest that you buy the Nexus 5 when it comes out in October... I know I will.
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fpjones3 said:
I am not a developer but I am not exactly unfamiliar with tech. I am trying to understand how different Android phones work with respect to their specs.
For example, I was looking at one with these specs:
OS Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
CPU 1.0GHz Dual Core
512 MB ROM
512 MB RAM
From what I've read, I understand ROM is more on the OS side and RAM is for multitasking. CPU speed is more on how smooth apps are launched or how the phones responds to commands. Did I understand these correctly?
I compared those above against what I have. (I've attached a screenshot of my phone's specs.) I do not understand the entry on the second screeshot re: memory. Is that RAM or ROM? Also with these specs, can I (if at all possible) install or upgrade to ICS?
Thanks in advance!
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Thank you for the replies! Yeah I purchased a cheap-o phone, hence the brand, mainly because I want to play around with the OS.
Well now that I know I cannot upgrade the phone, a couple of follow-up questions:
I know you can only save apps on the SD if rooted. How will I know if it's rooted?
What benefits does rooting give to a living fossil such as my phone?
How does the specs I quoted on the first post sound? Is 512 ROM and 512 RAM good enough?
Is RAM upgradeable? (I doubt the answer is yes though. lol)
Lastly, are all android versions not upgradeable? (Sounds like a waste of hardware especially when 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3 were released shortly after the other. 4.4 is almost out even.)
Cheers!
A phone will not come rooted as standard you must do it yourself using a simple one click solution such as gingerbreak and others (make sure to find them on XDA only or you will get malware, just download it and install the APK by tapping on it in a file explorer). If you can return it you should do so, gingerbread is really easy to exploit, the Nexus 4 phone is only about $200 if you can find a used one and it has the latest android which is very good looking. Rooting does not require any extra hardware as it is like getting admin privileges on Windows or root perms on Ubuntu and other Linux. A good app is SD maid, it does A LOT. Yeah you guesses it RAM is not upgradeable on phones as everything is soldered and highly compact. Yes, Android is upgradeable (unlike certain other OSes cough cough Windows) but manufacturers seem to not follow that as they pull the plugs on such things, however with Nexus phones google provides the updates and they do it fast and for a long time which is why I suggest you cut your losses with this phone (return if possible) and get a nexus 4/5.
BTW, for next time when responding, you should respond to us by quoting what we say or we won't be able to read what you say.
AJM-hackers said:
A phone will not come rooted as standard you must do it yourself using a simple one click solution such as gingerbreak and others (make sure to find them on XDA only or you will get malware, just download it and install the APK by tapping on it in a file explorer). If you can return it you should do so, gingerbread is really easy to exploit, the Nexus 4 phone is only about $200 if you can find a used one and it has the latest android which is very good looking. Rooting does not require any extra hardware as it is like getting admin privileges on Windows or root perms on Ubuntu and other Linux. A good app is SD maid, it does A LOT. Yeah you guesses it RAM is not upgradeable on phones as everything is soldered and highly compact.
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Hello there again! I can't return this anymore as I've had this for a good month or two now, but thanks for the tip.
I'll install the apk as soon as I get home but I recently replaced Avast with AVG and it says I'm running on high-privilege mode, I guess that's it right?
Yes, Android is upgradeable (unlike certain other OSes cough cough Windows) but manufacturers seem to not follow that as they pull the plugs on such things, however with Nexus phones google provides the updates and they do it fast and for a long time which is why I suggest you cut your losses with this phone (return if possible) and get a nexus 4/5.
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How did the manufacturers pull the plug? I understand Android is open-source. So why can't I just get an installer for ICS or Jellybean and slap it over Gingerbread like I would upgrade a desktop from XP to Win8?
Thanks again!
fpjones3 said:
Hello there again! I can't return this anymore as I've had this for a good month or two now, but thanks for the tip.
I'll install the apk as soon as I get home but I recently replaced Avast with AVG and it says I'm running on high-privilege mode, I guess that's it right?
How did the manufacturers pull the plug? I understand Android is open-source. So why can't I just get an installer for ICS or Jellybean and slap it over Gingerbread like I would upgrade a desktop from XP to Win8?
Thanks again!
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It's not as simple as pushing Google's version of the OS to your device, they need to modify it and create their own pseudo operating system tailored to the hardware of your device. DO NOT INSTALL A ROM FROM ANOTHER DEVICE OR TRY TO INSTALL AN INSTALLER, they are most likely fake and are out to get you. Send me a link of where you got the apk so I can see if it's okay
AJM-hackers said:
DO NOT INSTALL A ROM FROM ANOTHER DEVICE OR TRY TO INSTALL AN INSTALLER, they are most likely fake and are out to get you. Send me a link of where you got the apk so I can see if it's okay
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I have yet to search for an alternate ROM. That is what you are asking for right?
Is there a basis for determining compatible ROMs, if any at all?
fpjones3 said:
I have yet to search for an alternate ROM. That is what you are asking for right?
Is there a basis for determining compatible ROMs, if any at all?
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No your root apk but you already did it so its fine. And there probably wont be any Roms compatible for your device
AJM-hackers said:
No your root apk but you already did it so its fine. And there probably wont be any Roms compatible for your device
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Thanks for all the replies AJM! (Just so we're on the same page, I have not done anything, much less attempt to root the phone.) Looks like I have lots of room to experiment and explore.
One last question: I found this in the forum:
[GUIDE] [how to] CREATE OWN ROM [FOR ANY ANDROID DEVICE] [FOR N00B] [EASIEST METHODS]
I'm totally fishing here so please excuse the probable misuse of terminologies or the nonsensical question(s):
1. Based on my initial post: is my device capable of running a higher version of Android? Preferably the latest of course.
2. Assuming #1 is a yes, is a custom ROM created around the android version (gingerbread, ICS, etc.) or, err, what? (Do I start with a blank slate or do I download something off the web?)
fpjones3 said:
Thanks for all the replies AJM! (Just so we're on the same page, I have not done anything, much less attempt to root the phone.) Looks like I have lots of room to experiment and explore.
One last question: I found this in the forum:
[GUIDE] [how to] CREATE OWN ROM [FOR ANY ANDROID DEVICE] [FOR N00B] [EASIEST METHODS]
I'm totally fishing here so please excuse the probable misuse of terminologies or the nonsensical question(s):
1. Based on my initial post: is my device capable of running a higher version of Android? Preferably the latest of course.
2. Assuming #1 is a yes, is a custom ROM created around the android version (gingerbread, ICS, etc.) or, err, what? (Do I start with a blank slate or do I download something off the web?)
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I would not advise you to try to build a rom when you are COMPLETLY new to android and probably don't know about linux I assume and no it wont be able to run any other version other than 2.3.7( you're device is reminiscent of my first android phone, the xperia x10 which could only run 2.3.7, although later on a very skillful develop managed to get 4.0 on it but it wasn't exactly ideal).
AJM-hackers said:
I would not advise you to try to build a rom when you are COMPLETLY new to android and probably don't know about linux I assume and no it wont be able to run any other version other than 2.3.7( you're device is reminiscent of my first android phone, the xperia x10 which could only run 2.3.7, although later on a very skillful develop managed to get 4.0 on it but it wasn't exactly ideal).
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At least I now know it is sort of possible.
Why was it not ideal though (your upgraded phone)?
Battery life and unreal lag. On a side note you can think of gingerbread as the xp or vista for android 4.4 is coming out soon that means you're going to be 5 versions behind.
Sent from my ME173X using xda app-developers app
AJM-hackers said:
Battery life and unreal lag. On a side note you can think of gingerbread as the xp or vista for android 4.4 is coming out soon that means you're going to be 5 versions behind.
Sent from my ME173X using xda app-developers app
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Excuse the necromancy but I sort of renewed my interest in the topic.
I am now using a newer phone running 5.1 for around a year now, with slightly better specs. Not yet rooted so I don't void the warranty. I was wondering, what can I do with the dinosaur of a phone?