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Hi guys,
I used this method to root my phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Everything seems to work fine, and i just installed my first rom (ginger mod), i would like to ask you:
1. Every time i install a new rom, i'll do a wipe for secerity reasons, but by doing this, how come everything i had on the phone doesn't dissapear, like pictures? Doesn't wipe mean factory reset = remove everything on the phone?
2. Every time i install a new rom, does the older one get removed automatic or do they stay left on the phone, if so how do i remove the old stuff?
3. I know this may sound stupid, but do i have the same root every time i install new rom? Because i noticed when i install new rom and i went i to recovery mode i see new color on the Meny, that's normal?
4. Which app is good for beginners to start with, like Rom's and doing backup, which of these should i purchase: titanium backup, rom manager P, rom toolbox P.
thanks guys,
1. Internal SD card data remains. Can't tell you why it just does.
2. Old Rom is replaced. No need to remove it.
3. Each Rom has its own kernel. That kernel may or may not be rooted.
4. Titanium backup. Also do backup via CWM.
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aceofclubs said:
1. Internal SD card data remains. Can't tell you why it just does.
2. Old Rom is replaced. No need to remove it.
3. Each Rom has its own kernel. That kernel may or may not be rooted.
4. Titanium backup. Also do backup via CWM.
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Thank you for the quic answers,
1. when you're talking about the CWN, do you mean the one in the Rom manager?
2. So each rome, has their own root theme if i understood this correctly, so i don't need to worrie about re-rooting the device or something like that, because each rom has their own theme and meny?
3. which rom do you use and why, do you think that ginger-mod is good?
thanks again.
Darwichee said:
Thank you for the quic answers,
1. when you're talking about the CWN, do you mean the one in the Rom manager?
CWM not rom manager CWM is the modified recovery menu or CWM app .
2. So each rome, has their own root theme
No not all custom roms are rooted
jje
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Darwichee said:
3. which rom do you use and why, do you think that ginger-mod is good?
thanks again.
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One you did a backup with your ClockWorkMod recovery, you can experiment as much as you wish. You can go with various TouchWiz-based roms. You can try CyanogenMod or MIUI, which are completely different. And if you don't like them, just restore the backup.
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TheSniperFan said:
One you did a backup with your ClockWorkMod recovery, you can experiment as much as you wish. You can go with various TouchWiz-based roms. You can try CyanogenMod or MIUI, which are completely different. And if you don't like them, just restore the backup.
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1.Ok guys, i soon understand everything. I never did a backup on any roms. Here's the deal. When i first rooted the device, i used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
2.I also got the CWM app with this root, and superuser( which i dont know what this do), but now when i installed Ginger-mod, suddenly i don't have the CWM app anymore, which i guess is normal?
3.So please can you explain this for me. Lets say i have ginger-mod now, but i decide i want to install CM7 now, but before i do this, i'll have to do a backup of the ginger-mod if something goes wrong with the CM7, am i right so far?
So i'll have to install this CWM app (where i find it?) and make a backup, and then try a new rom. But if i make a wipe before installing new rom, wont the CWM app dissapear or something like that? Or if i install new rom again, will the CWM app be gone again?
I know my English grammer isn't that great, but i'll hope you understood me anyway.
thanks again
Darwichee said:
2.I also got the CWM app with this root, and superuser( which i dont know what this do), but now when i installed Ginger-mod, suddenly i don't have the CWM app anymore, which i guess is normal?
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The CWM app is a manager for the ClockWorkMod-recovery. The ClockWorkMod-recovery is a replacement for the stock Android-recovery. You enter the recovery by shutting your device down, holding volume-up and home and then pressing the power-button until you see the galaxy s2 logo. The CWM-app does not give you root-rights, in fact, it requires root-rights to work properly.
The SuperUser app gives you the root-rights. On OS' like Linux (and of course Android) there is one user called "root" (or superuser). He is basically what the Administrator was for Windows before Vista, having full access to everything.
The superuser-app manages what apps get root-permissions. You'll notice when it happens, because whenever an app wants to gain root-permissions, you'll see the superuser-app popping up and asking you if this is OK.
The fact that you don't have the CWM-App is no problem, as it just manages the recovery. The recovery itself does not need additional apps to be installed.
Darwichee said:
3.So please can you explain this for me. Lets say i have ginger-mod now, but i decide i want to install CM7 now, but before i do this, i'll have to do a backup of the ginger-mod if something goes wrong with the CM7, am i right so far?
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Enter the cwm-recovery (already said how you do this). You'll find various menus. One of them is the "Backup and Restore"-menu. You'll just create a backup to your internal or external sdcard (as you wish). When it is completed (without errors), you can safely flash any other rom. If you want to come back, you just enter cwm again and restore the backup.
You don't have to create a backup, but it's always good to have one of a working system.
Darwichee said:
So i'll have to install this CWM app (where i find it?) and make a backup, and then try a new rom. But if i make a wipe before installing new rom, wont the CWM app dissapear or something like that? Or if i install new rom again, will the CWM app be gone again?
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As I already said, you don't need the app. If your kernel does not provide it (it's just not there from the start), live with it. Everything you do in this app will just start the cwm-recovery anyway.
The ClockWorkMod-recovery is the "standard" for custom-roms. You can be sure that, if you flash another rom, it will have it too. And if your Rom does not come with CWM (like a stock-rom), you can just flash a kernel with cwm again (like Siyah).
Hope this clears things up for you. If you have any more questions (even if you think they're stupid) ask us here. It's better to ask twice, than to break something.
Happy new year!
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The CWM app is a manager for the ClockWorkMod-recovery. The ClockWorkMod-recovery is a replacement for the stock Android-recovery. You enter the recovery by shutting your device down, holding volume-up and home and then pressing the power-button until you see the galaxy s2 logo. The CWM-app does not give you root-rights, in fact, it requires root-rights to work properly.
The SuperUser app gives you the root-rights. On OS' like Linux (and of course Android) there is one user called "root" (or superuser). He is basically what the Administrator was for Windows before Vista, having full access to everything.
The superuser-app manages what apps get root-permissions. You'll notice when it happens, because whenever an app wants to gain root-permissions, you'll see the superuser-app popping up and asking you if this is OK.
The fact that you don't have the CWM-App is no problem, as it just manages the recovery. The recovery itself does not need additional apps to be installed.
Enter the cwm-recovery (already said how you do this). You'll find various menus. One of them is the "Backup and Restore"-menu. You'll just create a backup to your internal or external sdcard (as you wish). When it is completed (without errors), you can safely flash any other rom. If you want to come back, you just enter cwm again and restore the backup.
You don't have to create a backup, but it's always good to have one of a working system.
As I already said, you don't need the app. If your kernel does not provide it (it's just not there from the start), live with it. Everything you do in this app will just start the cwm-recovery anyway.
The ClockWorkMod-recovery is the "standard" for custom-roms. You can be sure that, if you flash another rom, it will have it too. And if your Rom does not come with CWM (like a stock-rom), you can just flash a kernel with cwm again (like Siyah).
Hope this clears things up for you. If you have any more questions (even if you think they're stupid) ask us here. It's better to ask twice, than to break something.
Happy new year!
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thank you, you explained everything perfect. I think i can manage figure out the rest by my self. Just one last question:
I noticed to good programs, and where you also could do a backup for your rom's and much more:
# Rom manager (Premium)
# Root toolbox (Pro)
Which one of these would you suggest for a beginner friendly UI and settings, do you use one of these?
thanks, and happy new year.
You don't need them. The ROM-manager is just an app like the cwm-app. It handles your ClockWorkMod-recovery. It does nothing itself. Once you click create backup, your phone will reboot into the ClockWorkMod-recovery, which will do the job.
However for the ROM-manager to work, you need to install the ClockWorkMod-recovery that shops with it. Just stick with the version of your kernel. This avoids confusion.
Besides that the ClockWorkMod-recovery is beginner-friendly. Just don't touch any options, you don't know what they do.
I recommend you to get a kernel with the latest recovery. The Siyah-kernel. It is compatible to practically every ROM out there. Just reflash the kernel after you flash a ROM.
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You don't need them. The ROM-manager is just an app like the cwm-app. It handles your ClockWorkMod-recovery. It does nothing itself. Once you click create backup, your phone will reboot into the ClockWorkMod-recovery, which will do the job.
However for the ROM-manager to work, you need to install the ClockWorkMod-recovery that shops with it. Just stick with the version of your kernel. This avoids confusion.
Besides that the ClockWorkMod-recovery is beginner-friendly. Just don't touch any options, you don't know what they do.
I recommend you to get a kernel with the latest recovery. The Siyah-kernel. It is compatible to practically every ROM out there. Just reflash the kernel after you flash a ROM.
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You have been veryhelpful, i've learned a few things now thanks to you. Just some last questions then i'm fine.
1. I've downloaded Siyahkernal from his website http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and as you see, i can choose between TAR, and Zip (download), which one of them is it that i put under the PDA in Odin? Or it doesn't matter which i download?
2. So after every Rom install i make, i install Siyah-kernal, let's say i installed Ginger-Mod, and this mod has Darkknight kernal, and now i install Siyah, will Siyah replace the other kernal, or will those 2 stick with eachother?
3. Just so i don't make any misstakes, installing kernal, is like installing root for the first time right? Meaning = 1, Put phone into download mode. 2.Put the kernal file in PDA 3. Press start?
4. I've noticed that there's a new version av Siyah 2.6.4, is this stable, and have he released it for download yet, because i couldn't find it?
Thanks for every answer you giving me. I feel much safer allready =).
Darwichee said:
You have been veryhelpful, i've learned a few things now thanks to you. Just some last questions then i'm fine.
1. I've downloaded Siyahkernal from his website http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and as you see, i can choose between TAR, and Zip (download), which one of them is it that i put under the PDA in Odin? Or it doesn't matter which i download?
ODIN is TAR CWM is ZIP .
2. So after every Rom install i make, i install Siyah-kernal, let's say i installed Ginger-Mod, and this mod has Darkknight kernal, and now i install Siyah, will Siyah replace the other kernal, or will those 2 stick with eachother?
REPLACE
3. Just so i don't make any misstakes, installing kernal, is like installing root for the first time right? Meaning = 1, Put phone into download mode. 2.Put the kernal file in PDA 3. Press start?
YES
4. I've noticed that there's a new version av Siyah 2.6.4, is this stable, and have he released it for download yet, because i couldn't find it?
No idea read the siyah thread .
No point asking is anything stable its development forum and as 2.6.3 was only released two days ago i guess not .
Stable = stock .
Once you start you have to be prepared for problems though 90% do not have a problem some do .
Rooting or Custom rom voids warranty .
jje
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As JJEgan said.
4. You can see what the developer is working on while he is doing it. Therefore the changelog for the latest release is what to expect for the next version.
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TheSniperFan said:
As JJEgan said.
4. You can see what the developer is working on while he is doing it. Therefore the changelog for the latest release is what to expect for the next version.
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Ah ok, i see. But do you think i should use the 2.6.3 version( since it's new), or is there any older version that's more stable?
Answer to Jjegan:
Yes i know, but there's allways something els you can say to the store, because they can't proof my phone got destroyed by rootinng,or can they?
Thanks guys.
Go with the latest one and, if you experience any problems, look for an update or downgrade, if there is none available yet.
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Go with the latest one and, if you experience any problems, look for an update or downgrade, if there is none available yet.
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I started to notice another problem.
Sometimes CWM wont recognize my external SD, example: I have put kernal, and roms in it, and when i want to flash these, i only get "no files found". And sometimes it work, but often it wont.
What can i do about this?
Sometimes cwm mistakes the internal for the external. Just take the other option.
Besides that, better update to Siyah 2.6.4. The ClockWorkMod there is more reliable.
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Want to flash a new rom and try out themes but I want to get confirmation on the steps I'll be taking rather than just rely on my search results.
1. I found this for installing cwm:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...-on-att-galaxy-note-sgh-i717-belltelusrogers/
Since our note isn't built into ROM Manager, I'm failing to see if theres a connection between that program and what is being done in the above tutorial. Kinda confused here and unsure of the next step. Am i just trying to install cwm or am I running a backup of some kind after doing so?
2. I've installed and ran titanium backup (i'm rooted)
3. http://www.chargeforums.com/forum/d...-flashing-roms-return-stock-odin-picture.html
Is all of this correct for our note as well (obviously replacing the pda with the saurom or collective rom)
Anything else I should do?
I know this is newbish but it seems there's a million ways to do this kind of stuff so I want to be sure I'm doing everything the common way that's done around here so it's easier to troubleshoot etc. if I have any issues.
so since your note is rooted and you don't have the clockwork recovery on your note? if not.
the first link that you post is correct for installing cmw.
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try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526431
then flashing Rom.
Dont use the last link you post. it is for Droid.
so the method for flashing a new rom is the same as installing cwm with oden? just simply put my phone in DL mode and open it in pda with oden?
i flashed the cwm using that thread and the oden method. maybe i'm still not understanding what cwm is. am I supposed to do something with it before flashing the rom, or is it something that is just necessary to be flashed onto the phone before flashing the rom? is the titanium backup all I needed to do?
edit: and also will i need to re-setup everything or will restoring all apps+system data with titanium backup after flashing new rom essentially put me back exactly where i was setup wise?
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so the method for flashing a new rom is the same as installing cwm with oden? just simply put my phone in DL mode and open it in pda with oden?
i flashed the cwm using that thread and the oden method. maybe i'm still not understanding what cwm is. am I supposed to do something with it before flashing the rom, or is it something that is just necessary to be flashed onto the phone before flashing the rom? is the titanium backup all I needed to do?
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I'm a noob as well and I'm only 1 step ahead of you so far. I'm rooted and just installed cwm. I'm ready to install saurom and based on the research I've done you go into cwm (by pressing both up/down vol and power at same time).
That's where you will install saurom and without rebooting install the att fix. Assuming you downloaded the files and transferred them over to sd card. That's all the info I've gathered so far.
As soon as I installed cwm I immediately made a backup of my stock rom. I highly suggest you backup your stock as well. This is a great easy tutorial on how to do it. If anything goes wrong with installing custom roms you can simply go back to stock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t8dITifFnc
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Not to hijack your thread but I was about to post about this same topic and wanted confirmation on the steps.
1. root the note -check
2. install cwm - check
3. make backup of stock rom - check (or is using titanium backup the same thing?)
4. download "saurom_ATT_APN_US_Fix_.zip" and "SAUROM_XLA2_RCVI.zip" and transfer to sd card.
5. enter cwm mode by hitting up/down vol and power buttons at same time.
6. navigate to the files and install saurom and without rebooting install att fix.
7. reboot and that's it??
Do I need to do anything else?
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Not to hijack your thread but I was about to post about this same topic and wanted confirmation on the steps.
1. root the note -check
2. install cwm - check
3. make backup of stock rom - check (or is using titanium backup the same thing?)
4. download "saurom_ATT_APN_US_Fix_.zip" and "SAUROM_XLA2_RCVI.zip" and transfer to sd card.
5. enter cwm mode by hitting up/down vol and power buttons at same time.
6. navigate to the files and install saurom and without rebooting install att fix.
7. reboot and that's it??
Do I need to do anything else?
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Not a highjack at all, that's more help than I started with. Hopefully someone can confirm your steps and we can get this flashed! I just made a full backup with cwm as well.
I would say stop using google and search here on XDA in the DEV section for the i717 (the Note) before you wind up flashing a ROM not meant for this phone.
The key here is read, read, read and then read more. Evey thing you need to root, flash CWM (specific version for the i717) and install any custom ROM is here on XDA.
Be VERY careful and understand that if you flash with ODIN (depending on what you flash - system, kernel etc) you may increase your flash counter. Most of the rooting methods and utilities indicate if the counter will increase or not.
TiBa - backups up your apps and setting on booted up
CWM - tool to wipe various areas of the device, flash ROMs and install packages
Nandroid Backup - backups up your ROM and is done once inside CWM.
read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483113
Be sure you understand how to return to stock just in case that becomes necessary down the line.
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How to Flash a ROM????
Basic Steps
! Choose the ROM that you want and download its .zip file
!! Transfer the zip file to your phone’s sd card. Do not put it into any folder.
!!! Turn off your phone and reboot into recovery, usually by holding the down button and power button at the same time.
!!!! Do a Nandroid backup
!!!!! Wipe the phone 3 times by clearing cache/factory restore 3 times and wiping dalvik cache and system format
!!!!!! Flash the zip file that you put on your sd card
!!!!!!! Reboot phone
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I'm not sure how to do a nandroid backup... not sure what it is. Didn't find any specific topics on it searching here and nothing in the play store. how is this backup different from the backup using cwm recovery mode> backup ?
Are the above steps otherwise good? It seems different ROM's have different instructions for installing them, from what I've gathered. I guess I'm going to try saurom first, btw since I really like the transfuzion theme.
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I'm not sure how to do a nandroid backup... not sure what it is. Didn't find any specific topics on it searching here and nothing in the play store. how is this backup different from the backup using cwm recovery mode> backup ?
Are the above steps otherwise good? It seems different ROM's have different instructions for installing them, from what I've gathered. I guess I'm going to try saurom first, btw since I really like the transfuzion theme.
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a nandroid back is done from inside CWM. Go to the backup and restore and backup. This will backup your current rom to the SD Card (internal or external depending on which option you pick) in the clockwork mod folder. This will save your current rom exactly how it is. You want to do this before flashing anything generally.
To flash a new Rom, you will want to make sure you have done a nandroid back up, make sure all the necessary files are on your sd card. Boot into CWM (hold vol up and down and power, when it turns off it will vibrate, let go of power and hold vol up and down until you are in CWM). Then you want to wipe all data (factory reset), wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache (in advanced menu). Then install zip from sd card, find your rom zip file and flash that. This is what i usually do. I am not 100% sure the complete wipe is necessary for the Note, it was on my old Inspire, so I still do as it is habit and good practice.
I had already posted a response but apparently it disappeared. So I guess I did an n Android backup already with Cwm I just didn't realize that's what it was called.
I guess with those instructions it seems very straight forward. My only question now I think is with regards to the kernel. On the first page in the saurom thread there is talk about using a specific kernel, do I still need to worry about this?
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I had already posted a response but apparently it disappeared. So I guess I did an n Android backup already with Cwm I just didn't realize that's what it was called.
I guess with those instructions it seems very straight forward. My only question now I think is with regards to the kernel. On the first page in the saurom thread there is talk about using a specific kernel, do I still need to worry about this?
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A backup in CWM will save your entire devices settings exactly as you have them, including apps and settings.
Use titanium backup only for app backups. You press menu -> batch -> backup all user apps.
Usually it is stated to not restore apps WITH user settings but I haven't had any problems with saurom after doing such.
Also, I believe saurom uses either da_g's overclocked kernel or holokernal. You don't have to worry about that part as it is baked into the ROM.
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Also, I believe saurom uses either da_g's overclocked kernel or holokernal. You don't have to worry about that part as it is baked into the ROM.
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Thanks! I thought they were built into it but want sure. So I'm all backed up.. All I have to do now is follow the simple steps above to install the ROM, then restore my apps with titanium?
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Thanks! I thought they were built into it but want sure. So I'm all backed up.. All I have to do now is follow the simple steps above to install the ROM, then restore my apps with titanium?
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Correct, sounds like you have it!
Flashed, restored, transfuzion themed, all good
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yes that is correct....yipppy
Yes it was incredibly easy. Much easier than trying to get a student Dev account for windows phone to unlock it... boy was that a pain! The only annoying part here was having to one by one install my old apps with TB. If dev picks up for this phone I might have to cave for the pro version.
Thanks guys.
cgibsong002 said:
Yes it was incredibly easy. Much easier than trying to get a student Dev account for windows phone to unlock it... boy was that a pain! The only annoying part here was having to one by one install my old apps with TB. If dev picks up for this phone I might have to cave for the pro version.
Thanks guys.
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Pro version is definitely worth it. With the devs I see coming to the Note, we will have a bustling dev community in no time.
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I have the sch-i605 rooted with Adam outlers casual root... So I have super such, twrp, and boot loader unlocked. I made a recover backup in twrp and wiped the necessary files and flashed carbon job 4.2.2 ROM.. I got it all setup and it seems to be pretty stable so far. Downloaded additional apps that I want and thought to myself that maybe I should save a recovery of this ROM the way it is so that I could have two recoveries to choose from.. Figured if anything went wrongi could flash back to my stock rom or ifi wanted to flash another custom rom and then go back to my carbon rom setup the way I have iti could easily flash back to it.. So I did another backup thinking I would end up with two backups in my twrp/backups for but when I went there I only had the most recent one (carbon not stock backup)... It's not a huge deal right now cause carbon is working pretty well, but I feel a little in easy that I don't have my stock backup....
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated... Could I use Odin and flash the stock image in download mode or would that in root me? Etc.
Did you backup the rom the first time? You say you backed up the recovery.
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I have the sch-i605 rooted with Adam outlers casual root... So I have super such, twrp, and boot loader unlocked. I made a recover backup in twrp and wiped the necessary files and flashed carbon job 4.2.2 ROM.. I got it all setup and it seems to be pretty stable so far. Downloaded additional apps that I want and thought to myself that maybe I should save a recovery of this ROM the way it is so that I could have two recoveries to choose from.. Figured if anything went wrongi could flash back to my stock rom or ifi wanted to flash another custom rom and then go back to my carbon rom setup the way I have iti could easily flash back to it.. So I did another backup thinking I would end up with two backups in my twrp/backups for but when I went there I only had the most recent one (carbon not stock backup)... It's not a huge deal right now cause carbon is working pretty well, but I feel a little in easy that I don't have my stock backup....
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I made 2 TWRP backups and didn't see them at first when I pressed the Restore button, but then I pressed the "Storage:..." label under the screen heading title and was able to change the location. After I did that I was able to see my 2 backups. Maybe you'll find your first backup at some other location.
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I made 2 TWRP backups and didn't see them at first when I pressed the Restore button, but then I pressed the "Storage:..." label under the screen heading title and was able to change the location. After I did that I was able to see my 2 backups. Maybe you'll find your first backup at some other location.
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The OP at the below thread had a similar problem and he details how he found the location of his missing backups using a file manager: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42674660#post42674660
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Did you backup the rom the first time? You say you backed up the recovery.
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yeah i used twrp to make a backup then afer i got my carbon rom all set up the way i wanted i made another backup the same way. but the only one showing up is the last one (carbon) i did.
universexda said:
I made 2 TWRP backups and didn't see them at first when I pressed the Restore button, but then I pressed the "Storage:..." label under the screen heading title and was able to change the location. After I did that I was able to see my 2 backups. Maybe you'll find your first backup at some other location.
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unfortunately this wasn't the case for me... i used file manager and es file explorer and i only have one twrp file and its the one that has the carbon rom backup not the stock....
so i remember i had a soft brick once while trying to get adam outlers casual root to work.... i downloaded a stock android 4.1.2 md5 file and .pit file and put the phone into download mode and use the odin app to flash those two files.... so i know if need be i could do that probably again to get back to stock, BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW IF I WOULD STILL BE ROOTED? (IE.. BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED, SUPER SU, TWRP, ANDALL THAT??)
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so i remember i had a soft brick once while trying to get adam outlers casual root to work.... i downloaded a stock android 4.1.2 md5 file and .pit file and put the phone into download mode and use the odin app to flash those two files.... so i know if need be i could do that probably again to get back to stock, BUT DOES ANYONE KNOW IF I WOULD STILL BE ROOTED? (IE.. BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED, SUPER SU, TWRP, ANDALL THAT??)
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If you have TWRP it will be the recovery that is there when you boot into recovery (ie. Vol up, Home, Power)
If you have root you will either see the root app in your apps or you can use the root checker app in the market.
If you use those files to go back to stock though you will not have root, be unlocked, or have TWRP. The only way to be rooted when going back to stock is to use root66 as the ROM instead of 4.1.2.
Also, WHY THE HELL IS THE LAST SENTENCE ALL IN ****ING CAPS?
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Hello XDA members,
I was hoping somebody would help me out, I'm fairly new when it comes to installing custom roms so I require your patience. I don't know how to install a custom rom onto my Bell Atrix HD MB886, everytime I try it says abortion failed, what can I do to fix this. I have wiped data and all that probably 5 times in the past week alone. I would like to know how to successfully install roms without errors. Both the times that I have done this I had my bootloader unlocked, and I had clockword recovery mod latest version 6.0.4.4. I bought an SD card today to help install the roms because otherwise I can't do it from my internal storage. I really hope somebody can help me out.
Regards,
Roger
riekkir said:
Hello XDA members,
I was hoping somebody would help me out, I'm fairly new when it comes to installing custom roms so I require your patience. I don't know how to install a custom rom onto my Bell Atrix HD MB886, everytime I try it says abortion failed, what can I do to fix this. I have wiped data and all that probably 5 times in the past week alone. I would like to know how to successfully install roms without errors. Both the times that I have done this I had my bootloader unlocked, and I had clockword recovery mod latest version 6.0.4.4. I bought an SD card today to help install the roms because otherwise I can't do it from my internal storage. I really hope somebody can help me out.
Regards,
Roger
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Hi there. A failed abortion certainly seems like an issue... I guess I am not totally clear on the status here. You say that you had CWM. Do you still have it? Bootloader is still unlocked? What rom are you trying to install? Are you certain it's for the Bell version and not like the AT&T one? What is the exact error message?
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Hi there. A failed abortion certainly seems like an issue... I guess I am not totally clear on the status here. You say that you had CWM. Do you still have it? Bootloader is still unlocked? What rom are you trying to install? Are you certain it's for the Bell version and not like the AT&T one? What is the exact error message?
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No I don't have it atm as I just wiped the data/cache last night but will I already have CWM, I just need to unlock the bootloader and try again...I'm trying to install this one:
Android 4.4.2 KitKat Mokee Rom, and it says the version is a nightly. Yes I'm positive it's the Bell Version as I purchased it at a Bell Store and my carrier is Bell. The error message is "Installation Aborted." It begins installing, and then halfway through I get that error message. How do I fix this?
I figured you knew what phone you had. I was wondering if you had a rom built for the Bell version vs an ATT one. But since you are using a CM based rom, it obviously doesn't matter. Curious as to why you are bothering with relocking the bootloader? But I suggest to either try a different version of the rom, or to change your recovery to one of the Philz Touch versions as that's what some of the other users in that thread for the rom for your phone were using. You can find them here:
http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/moto_msm8960
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I figured you knew what phone you had. I was wondering if you had a rom built for the Bell version vs an ATT one. But since you are using a CM based rom, it obviously doesn't matter. Curious as to why you are bothering with relocking the bootloader? But I suggest to either try a different version of the rom, or to change your recovery to one of the Philz Touch versions as that's what some of the other users in that thread for the rom for your phone were using. You can find them here:
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No I was bothering to unlock it again, not lock it. Where can I find different versions for the 4.4.2 Mokee Rom? I've tried using the Philz Touch version: Motorola Atrix HD One Click Philz recovery installer and when I tried it a couple of times it said it failed to install although I'm not sure why. I came across these images the other day but how do I use the .img files on my device, as I'm not sure to proceed from here once I have them downloaded.
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No I was bothering to unlock it again, not lock it. Where can I find different versions for the 4.4.2 Mokee Rom? I've tried using the Philz Touch version: Motorola Atrix HD One Click Philz recovery installer and when I tried it a couple of times it said it failed to install although I'm not sure why. I came across these images the other day but how do I use the .img files on my device, as I'm not sure to proceed from here once I have them downloaded.
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I was curious as why you relocked it in the first place.
Where are you getting Mokee from that doesn't have a link to their Downloads?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2619489
For installing recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262726
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I was curious as why you relocked it in the first place.
Where are you getting Mokee from that doesn't have a link to their Downloads?
For installing recovery:
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thanks will try this out and let you know later how it works! I download the custom rom from true android blogspot.ca (can't post links just yet, annoying).
riekkir said:
thanks will try this out and let you know later how it works! I download the custom rom from true android blogspot.ca (can't post links just yet, annoying).
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Right on. Well, you should bookmark the thread here on XDA because that's typically where the action happens.
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Right on. Well, you should bookmark the thread here on XDA because that's typically where the action happens.
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Okay so I'm trying it now and the program won't even open :/
Odd. I just downloaded it to test and I didn't have any issues. If you can't get the actual application / exe file to open, then just use the Main-Skip.bat. Does the same thing.
If it doesn't open still, make sure that you have your anti-virus off as sometimes those interfere with programs like this. Might also try as admin.
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Odd. I just downloaded it to test and I didn't have any issues. If you can't get the actual application / exe file to open, then just use the Main-Skip.bat. Does the same thing.
If it doesn't open still, make sure that you have your anti-virus off as sometimes those interfere with programs like this. Might also try as admin.
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Okay I wasn't looking at the actual .exe sorry, I got it to work and all I installed the Philz One Touch Recovery from that program, just downloaded a different rom and all and then I select the apply update from external storage and when it gets to the verifying update package, it gave me the same error message as yesterday, Installation Aborted.
So again, how do I fix this, am I doing something wrong? Why won't my custom rom install?
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Okay I wasn't looking at the actual .exe sorry, I got it to work and all I installed the Philz One Touch Recovery from that program, just downloaded a different rom and all and then I select the apply update from external storage and when it gets to the verifying update package, it gave me the same error message as yesterday, Installation Aborted.
So again, how do I fix this, am I doing something wrong? Why won't my custom rom install?
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I don't think that is the most updated version. What's the version number of the recovery that was installed? It should be listed on the main page of it when you boot there. I was suggesting to use one of the new ones. It might have something to do with the SELinux support that KK roms need. You just have to put the img file in the tools folder and rename the new one the same. But here's no other error that shows up other than Installation Aborted? I was thinking usually it would have an error code or some other message.Have you checked the md5 of the rom zip to make sure it's not corrupted (if the dev provided it)?
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I don't think that is the most updated version. What's the version number of the recovery that was installed? It should be listed on the main page of it when you boot there. I was suggesting to use one of the new ones. It might have something to do with the SELinux support that KK roms need. You just have to put the img file in the tools folder and rename the new one the same. But here's no other error that shows up other than Installation Aborted? I was thinking usually it would have an error code or some other message.Have you checked the md5 of the rom zip to make sure it's not corrupted (if the dev provided it)?
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Use one of the new versions of that program or to use the latest CWM which I have been. Okay I really don't know how to do that and where to move it to, how do I do such a thing? No it just says Installation Aborted... How would I do that? And yes I downloaded the new rom directly from his site.
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Use one of the new versions of that program or to use the latest CWM which I have been. Okay I really don't know how to do that and where to move it to, how do I do such a thing? No it just says Installation Aborted... How would I do that? And yes I downloaded the new rom directly from his site.
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Look in the tools folder of the zip you downloaded. Download the newest Philz Touch img from the other link from earlier. Rename it to replace the one in the tools folder. Redo the recovery install. But you didn't say what version you already have.
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Look in the tools folder of the zip you downloaded. Download the newest Philz Touch img from the other link from earlier. Rename it to replace the one in the tools folder. Redo the recovery install. But you didn't say what version you already have.
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Okay that did the trick, properly got philz recovery installed, did the install again, this time it worked, clicked reboot and now it's stuck at the Dual Core bootlogo screen
riekkir said:
Okay that did the trick, properly got philz recovery installed, did the install again, this time it worked, clicked reboot and now it's stuck at the Dual Core bootlogo screen
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Did you do a full wipe, including wiping /system?
If you didn't, it should be under Mounts and Storage > Format /system of something of that sort.
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Did you do a full wipe, including wiping /system?
If you didn't, it should be under Mounts and Storage > Format /system of something of that sort.
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No I forgot to do that dammit, can't get into recovery mode and my computer doesn't recognize my phone now, think I bricked it.
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No I forgot to do that dammit, can't get into recovery mode and my computer doesn't recognize my phone now, think I bricked it.
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Pop the battery out for a bit, then pop it back in and hold Volume Down while powering up. Should get you into fastboot where you can skip to the recovery.
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Pop the battery out for a bit, then pop it back in and hold Volume Down while powering up. Should get you into fastboot where you can skip to the recovery.
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The battery doesn't come out of my phone as you can't take the back off. I got into fast boot easily them selected recovery and nothing happened, I think my phone is screwed
riekkir said:
The battery doesn't come out of my phone as you can't take the back off. I got into fast boot easily them selected recovery and nothing happened, I think my phone is screwed
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Oh yea, forgot you have to undo the screws on the bottom. So you scroll down to hit recovery and use the Power button to select and it doesn't do anything? That's odd.. Try and reflash the recovery since you can still get to fastboot. If that doesn't work, you're not totally screwed since you can still get to fastboot, that means you should be able to restore it to stock and start over.
Alternatively, if you have fastboot set up, you could make sure that philz touch is in the fastboot folder and use this command:
fastboot boot recovery nameofphilztouchfile.img
If you don't have fastboot, then just grab this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 , drop the recovery img in that folder and open the CMD prompt on your computer and change directories to it and run the command.
Hi Folks,
I have just installed CWM recovery V 6.0.4.6 using ROM Manager app in my Galaxy S3 I9300 running on stock android 4.3 . I rebooted the device to check it and it was successfully installed. While I tried to reboot device through an option in the recovery, it showed up two messages as follows,
Message 1:
ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix? THIS CAN'T BE UNDONE
1.No
2.Yes - Disable recovery flash
Message 2:
Root Access Possibly Lost Fix?
THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE
1. No
2. Yes - Fix root (/system/xbin/su)
I selected option "2.Yes - Disable recovery flash" from Message 1 and again option "2. YES fix root (/system/xbin/su)" from Message 2.
Why these messages are getting displayed? Is there any problem now?
Also please let me know whether it will revert to Stock Android Recovery by selecting Option "1.No" from Message 1. If so again I have to flash CWM recovery?
Stock firmware will restore stock recovery on next boot, suggest you read and understand the basics before you damage your phone.
Don't use rom manager on the s3.
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Stock firmware will restore stock recovery on next boot, suggest you read and understand the basics before you damage your phone.
Don't use rom manager on the s3.
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Thanks. So shall I revert back to stock recovery by selecting 1.No from message 1 and then flash cwm using odin?. Will it be fine?
I have also read that many folks facing same kinda issue even they flashed CWM recovery using odin.
Please advice that will there be any issues if I flash Cynogenmod 10.2 now?.
Any help on this? Please.
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Any help on this? Please.
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Unless you are trying to unroot your phone it is fairly safe to say Yes to both.
If you already have the custom rom of your choice able to be flashed, then you should just go ahead and flash it instead of rebooting and this message should not be seen again.
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boomboomer said:
Don't use rom manager on the s3.
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I have seen this a couple of times on this forum... I have recently switched from TWRP to CWM recovery. The reason that I switched was due to TWRP having updates that bork major parts of the phone. I used TWRP for over a year on this phone. Now that I use CWM, the only thing that I have noticed different is that the updates seem to be more quality controlled for CWM than TWRP...
With that said, do you care to elaborate on your advice to use TWRP over CWM?
Do you have any further reasoning on your advice?
Thanks!
Edit: As far as the APK component to each recovery, Rom Manager updates CWM without issue. I could never get goomanager to update twrp properly. I chalked it up to bad programming... *Shrug* Not really an issue for me, but it tells me a thing or two about quality control...
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Unless you are trying to unroot your phone it is fairly safe to say Yes to both.
If you already have the custom rom of your choice able to be flashed, then you should just go ahead and flash it instead of rebooting and this message should not be seen again.
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I have seen this a couple of times on this forum... I have recently switched from TWRP to CWM recovery. The reason that I switched was due to TWRP having updates that bork major parts of the phone. I used TWRP for over a year on this phone. Now that I use CWM, the only thing that I have noticed different is that the updates seem to be more quality controlled for CWM than TWRP...
With that said, do you care to elaborate on your advice to use TWRP over CWM?
Do you have any further reasoning on your advice?
Thanks!
Edit: As far as the APK component to each recovery, Rom Manager updates CWM without issue. I could never get goomanager to update twrp properly. I chalked it up to bad programming... *Shrug* Not really an issue for me, but it tells me a thing or two about quality control...
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Rom manager isn't cwm recovery, they're 2 different things. It's better to install cwm recovery through means other than rom manager to avoid problems. The advice wasn't against using cwm recovery.
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Rom manager isn't cwm recovery, they're 2 different things. It's better to install cwm recovery through means other than rom manager to avoid problems. The advice wasn't against using cwm recovery.
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Hence the statement:
"As far as the APK component to each recovery, Rom Manager updates CWM without issue. I could never get goomanager to update twrp properly. "
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It's better to install cwm recovery through means other than rom manager to avoid problems.
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My point is that of the two, Rom Manager is the one that works. I have never had issues using Rom Manager to install recoveries. Although, I always install the first time using fastboot... So my anecdotal impressions may not apply here.
Care to explain your statement? (Which is the intent of my original message. Why the Koushik XDA witchhunt?)
I would search, but XDA search is borderline unusable.
Thanks!
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Stock firmware will restore stock recovery on next boot, suggest you read and understand the basics before you damage your phone.
Don't use rom manager on the s3.
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None of the stock roms I've used have ever tried to restore stock recovery, it's just left there from other devices that do it.
t1n0m3n said:
Unless you are trying to unroot your phone it is fairly safe to say Yes to both.
If you already have the custom rom of your choice able to be flashed, then you should just go ahead and flash it instead of rebooting and this message should not be seen again.
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Thank you. I am planning to flash Cynogenmod 10.2. Hope everything goes fine. I have taken a backup of my ROM. Attached file is the pic of the backup messages. Please let me know if the backup was fine.
When asked those i always select "no" to both. Never had an issue.
mpadhu said:
Thank you. I am planning to flash Cynogenmod 10.2. Hope everything goes fine. I have taken a backup of my ROM. Attached file is the pic of the backup messages. Please let me know if the backup was fine.
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Looks like a successful backup to me.
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Looks like a successful backup to me.
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Thank you. I have successfully flashed Cynogenmod 10.2.
I can see my old android files still present in the internal memory. I did wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition and wipe dalvik cache but still the files are present. Will it cause any problem if I remove those files? If No will a factory reset work to remove those files?