Its expiring any loopholes? Lol
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You do realize that this is prohibited on xda, right?
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You do realize that this is prohibited on xda, right?
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Not to cause trouble but how is that any different then the Tether Hack?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305118
That's an interesting point made. While certainly not apples to apples... the tethering hacks are 'stealing' from the carrier, just as warez 'steals' from the developers.
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Not to cause trouble but how is that any different then the Tether Hack?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305118
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The tether hack is merely a t&c violation which is in a gray area. While there are those that abuse it, many folks using it actually use less data than those of us on tiered plans. There exists an argument that they are already paying for the data that they are using.
Conversely, what the op is looking for is theft of a paid subscription service, and is not a t&c violation. There is no gray area- it's a paid service for any and all who use itbeyond the trial.
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Personally they are both almost the same. Tether plan costs higher than the caller ID plan though. Lol
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This is a interesting line and a good point to bring up. As I understand where both parties are coming from. Tether is also a paid service so is this caller iD app. To me it falls under the same category... Fine line idk?
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Root and remove the APK?
Disable the app from Settings / Applications?
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Root and remove the APK?
Disable the app from Settings / Applications?
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The op wants to know if there's a way to bypass the subscription
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I froze this app but I'm still getting full caller ID info. It's been two weeks since I got my phone.
Is it possible that freezing the app prevented this from getting shut off after the trial somehow?
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I froze this app but I'm still getting full caller ID info. It's been two weeks since I got my phone.
Is it possible that freezing the app prevented this from getting shut off after the trial somehow?
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What's weird still is that I liked the trial enough to purchase it for $3/month. I get alot of calls and realized how nice it was to know what company was calling, etc, when they have multiple numbers that they dial out from. I installed a new ROM which was debloated and it didn't have the app; I tried searching for the apps name to download it again, just to have what I'm paying for but couldn't find it. Without the app, I still get full caller id info, just no options to add it to my contacts. I realized it must be getting turned on @ Verizon, since they are billing me for the services.
This leads me to believe the app is just for adding contacts etc, so I'm guessing that "IF SOMEONE WAS SEARCHING FOR A H**K", which violates xda rules, that its probably pointless. I decided its just another $3/month, which is worth it and cheaper then a landline caller ID service.
I'm a Nurse, not a hacker or developer ( which I know are completely different things ) so this is JUST MY EDUCATED GUESS
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If anyone could upload the app for me, I would greatly appreciate it. I know I can just download a stock ROM, that's not debloated and grab it, but thats a 2 hour download of 1.2gigs, just for the app since I can't locate the same app anywhere I've looked; and yes I HAVE SEARCHED FOR IT.
THANK YOU !!!
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Tada10 said:
Personally they are both almost the same. Tether plan costs higher than the caller ID plan though. Lol
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Are you being double charged for caller id? The people using the tether hack are already paying for their data.
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Are you being double charged for caller id? The people using the tether hack are already paying for their data.
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If on unlimited data, paying for data only and tethering for free isn't an option from VZW. It's their policy whether we like it or not. I hate it but I pay for it.
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If on unlimited data, paying for data only and tethering for free isn't an option from VZW. It's their policy whether we like it or not. I hate it but I pay for it.
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I concur which is why I'm on a share everything plan. I tetheroccasionally anddon't usemore than8 GB a monthBergen all of our devices. Verizon is legally obligated to provide it to tiered customers at no extra charge, but still hits customers on the legacy unlimited plan with the fee.
That being said, is there a realistic difference between a customer who is on a tiered 4 GB plan who tethers and one who is on an unlimited plan who uses 3GB a month including occasionally tethering a tablet? Verizon's justificationto the FCC is that there exists the "potential" for unlimited customers to use a large amount of data.
As I've said, it amounts to a mere t&c violation for using their already paid for data in a manner that Verizon has said that is free only if they pay for less data.
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jimmiem said:
I froze this app but I'm still getting full caller ID info. It's been two weeks since I got my phone.
Is it possible that freezing the app prevented this from getting shut off after the trial somehow?
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Same here.
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I concur which is why I'm on a share everything plan. I tetheroccasionally anddon't usemore than8 GB a monthBergen all of our devices. Verizon is legally obligated to provide it to tiered customers at no extra charge, but still hits customers on the legacy unlimited plan with the fee.
That being said, is there a realistic difference between a customer who is on a tiered 4 GB plan who tethers and one who is on an unlimited plan who uses 3GB a month including occasionally tethering a tablet? Verizon's justificationto the FCC is that there exists the "potential" for unlimited customers to use a large amount of data.
As I've said, it amounts to a mere t&c violation for using their already paid for data in a manner that Verizon has said that is free only if they pay for less data.
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There's actually a pretty strong legal argument that they can't charge extra for tethering to anyone, but that is off topic here.
Also, violating a contract is not illegal (i.e. criminal) or in my opinion, immoral. Theft of service is...and that is what we are talking about here.
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There's actually a pretty strong legal argument that they can't charge extra for tethering to anyone, but that is off topic here.
Also, violating a contract is not illegal (i.e. criminal) or in my opinion, immoral. Theft of service is...and that is what we are talking about here.
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Actually, since the topic of this thread is verboten, we may as well go with the tangent...
I suspect you're going in the direction of the Block C restriction. The FCC has expressly given Verizon the green light to charge unlimited customers for tethering in the consent decree that was issued last summer.
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jimmiem said:
I froze this app but I'm still getting full caller ID info. It's been two weeks since I got my phone.
Is it possible that freezing the app prevented this from getting shut off after the trial somehow?
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I froze it with Rom Toolbox Pro hope it works lol thanks
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Discovered thread City Caller ID (free old app - same as payware CityID)
I discovered old thread in HTC Droid Incredible forums about this.
City Caller ID (free old app - same as payware CityID)
brizey said:
There's actually a pretty strong legal argument that they can't charge extra for tethering to anyone, but that is off topic here.
Also, violating a contract is not illegal (i.e. criminal) or in my opinion, immoral. Theft of service is...and that is what we are talking about here.
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I disagree.....all you're doing is turning you're phone into a router to use the data that you're already receiving to the phone. A theft of service would apply that you are receiving additional data, which you are not....... you're pulling the same data to you're phone regardless its in tethering mode or not
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You don't really have to unless you are grandfathered in for unlimited data... VZW shared everything, includes the hotspot feature and you don't have to have 2 devices... I switched my plan to it and I'm actually saving $10+ more a month... Just a thought.. and in case others didn't know
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I'm sure most of us knew that..
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I'm sure most of us knew that..
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Umm, I didn't.
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geoff5093 said:
I'm sure most of us knew that..
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Thats cool if you did.. if others didn't, I was giving them a heads up... I didn't know it til earlier today. So I wanted to help others out
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I've been considering mentioning it. Because of the spectrum that Verizon bought, they cannot "double dip" into our pockets and are not allowed to charge twice for the same data, thus we're allowed to tether. This does not apply to unlimited because the data you use on unlimited is dictated by usage rather than by purchasing a set amount of data per month.
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I've been considering mentioning it. Because of the spectrum that Verizon bought, they cannot "double dip" into our pockets and are not allowed to charge twice for the same data, thus we're allowed to tether. This does not apply to unlimited because the data you use on unlimited is dictated by usage rather than by purchasing a set amount of data per month.
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That's true, the thing I meant about unlimited was that if they switched to this they wouldn't have it anymore. And instead of tacking on $30 extra to there bill for the hotspot that the root for wifi is better for them.. but if a person doesn't have unlimited, this plan would be one to think about
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That's true, the thing I meant about unlimited was that if they switched to this they wouldn't have it anymore. And instead of tacking on $30 extra to there bill for the hotspot that the root for wifi is better for them.. but if a person doesn't have unlimited, this plan would be one to think about
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I was just explaining why tethering is free for share everything users, and how it differs for unlimited. Personally I can live without unlimited without a problem so i'm looking forward to the free tethering without root or any exploit.
ML417 said:
I was just explaining why tethering is free for share everything users, and how it differs for unlimited. Personally I can live without unlimited without a problem so i'm looking forward to the free tethering without root or any exploit.
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Oh ok.. yea I understand that, I'm the same way
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So do you have to be on a share everything plan? I have the 4gb promotional data plan for the price of 2gb. Would l be able to use Wifi teether free? Thanks
Clay333 said:
So do you have to be on a share everything plan? I have the 4gb promotional data plan for the price of 2gb. Would l be able to use Wifi teether free? Thanks
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Unfortunately, no. You would have to add it for the $30.. I had that too
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I was about to convert my unlimited data plan to a 6GB plan since I only use 4.2 on average and thats without the tons of reliable wifi hotspots I have around me. But then I realized this phone kicks at 1080p, so things like youtube/netflix streams are going to be coming in at higher bitrates. I'll also probably use the phone more than my thunderbolt for general web-surfing since it look so much better. Basically, this phone is going to kick up my consumption levels several factors. 6GB is barely enough for my thunderbolt, I have a feeling I'm going to break the bank with the DNA. So I paid full retail just to keep unlimited.
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I was about to convert my unlimited data plan to a 6GB plan since I only use 4.2 on average and thats without the tons of reliable wifi hotspots I have around me. But then I realized this phone kicks at 1080p, so things like youtube/netflix streams are going to be coming in at higher bitrates. I'll also probably use the phone more than my thunderbolt for general web-surfing since it look so much better. Basically, this phone is going to kick up my consumption levels several factors. 6GB is barely enough for my thunderbolt, I have a feeling I'm going to break the bank with the DNA. So I paid full retail just to keep unlimited.
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Nice. Yea I heard about that too. VZW is doing away with unlimited completely. The only way to keep it is if you buy all phone from now on at full retail prices. If you use the upgrade you don't get to keep your unlimited
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Since third party tethering apps are allowed. What are the consequences of running whole home imternet off my phone. Anything VZW can do? Heard they can terminate account.
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thats a good question i would like to know too
Pretty sure 3rd party tethering apps are not allowed. They want you to pay the additional fee for tethering. If they catch you they I'm sure could terminate your account. Never heard of it happening though.
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Terminate your account, call due your etfs, and send your a ginormous data bill would be the worst case scenario.
Chances are terminating your account would also blacklist you from reinstating it....ever.
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Since third party tethering apps are allowed. What are the consequences of running whole home imternet off my phone. Anything VZW can do? Heard they can terminate account.
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They can't do anything do to the new laws. If they do your could potentially sue them.
Goldchamp said:
Pretty sure 3rd party tethering apps are not allowed. They want you to pay the additional fee for tethering. If they catch you they I'm sure could terminate your account. Never heard of it happening though.
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They are allowed verizon can't do anything about it as long as the fcc is there. Also they would terminate your account they'd just want you to pay for a tethering plan and the data that you've used.
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They can't do anything do to the new laws. If they do your could potentially sue them.
They are allowed verizon can't do anything about it as long as the fcc is there. Also they would terminate your account they'd just want you to pay for a tethering plan and the data that you've used.
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Um, yes they can if you are on unlimited. FCC even knows about it.
http://www.fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation
In addition, the company recently revised its service offerings such that consumers on usage-based
pricing plans may tether, using any application, without paying an additional fee.
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For news and information about the FCC, please visit: www.fcc.gov
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The FCC ruling does not include grandfathered plans.
The ruling is almost entirely about tethering apps, not service. Verizon gets through on a loophole due to CDMA being included in a lot of this stuff. Try to take them to court on it, I dare ya
I rooted my friend's nexus for Verizon and he's currently running a 3rd party tethering app and nothing has happened to his account.
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adrynalyne said:
Um, yes they can if you are on unlimited. FCC even knows about it.
http://www.fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation
The ruling is almost entirely about tethering apps, not service. Verizon gets through on a loophole due to CDMA being included. Try to take them to court on it, I dare ya
They don't have to allow tethering on CDMA at all.
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Well they've done nothing to me I've been on Verizon since the alltel merging with unlimited and when 4g came our and I got my thunderbolt I have been using 3rd party tethering apps and I haven't been caught so they know but just won't point it out cause they know they'll lose some high paying customers.
nnnnr14 said:
Well they've done nothing to me I've been on Verizon since the alltel merging with unlimited and when 4g came our and I got my thunderbolt I have been using 3rd party tethering apps and I haven't been caught so they know but just won't point it out cause they know they'll lose some high paying customers.
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Right, but never have is not synonymous with never will.
From what I read, OP just wanted a worse case scenario sort of response.
None of us can rightfully tell the guy that he cannot be punished for unauthorized tethering.
We have an awesome Verizon corporate rep. It is a great looking chic and she is cool as hell.
I asked her about this one time and about things like using a ton of data with my slingbox etc. She actually walked in while I was using my Slingbox and asked me how it worked.
She could care less what I do, but she did advise me not to go absolutely crazy with the data use as things like Slingbox that are unsupported and third party tethering are TOS violations and you may endanger your unlimited data package (something I have been really careful not to do)
She said as long as you use a reasonable amount of data VZ won't care, but the DBs that use 150 gigs a month and then brag about it on sites like this are definitely pressing their luck IMHO.
Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.
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Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.
That is correct but I wouldn't doubt if you used a lot your speed would mysteriously slow down at some point...
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Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot
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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.
That is correct but I wouldn't doubt if you used a lot your speed would mysteriously slow down at some point...
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LTE is not allowed to be throttled.
They will on 3G though.
Cool. I might go that route. Seems like it could be alright though. Right now I pay 80 bucks for internet for the high speeds. Ibget better speeds on lte than that though. 50 dollar savings seems ok
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If you use a 3rd party app or hack the stock tethering you should be fine as long as you don't go crazy tethering. You'd most likely not be content with a home network tethered from your phone. Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.
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If you use a 3rd party app or hack the stock tethering you should be fine as long as you don't go crazy tethering. You'd most likely not be content with a home network tethered from your phone. Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.
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Let me repeat:
They cannot throttle LTE, only 3G.
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Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.
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Only if its 3g data, they don't throttle 4g.
I do agree it's not the worlds best idea to run your entire home internet by tethering however.
I would never do that (i use roadrunner) and sooner or later I firmly believe verizon will discontinue unlimited data for everyone anyway.
They won't charge you anything. They will simply put a block on your tethering and nothing else.
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They cannot throttle LTE, only 3G.
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Care to share an article?
In the days of the Droid X, there was a simple hack to remove throttling. In everything I've read currently, the throttle is done at the network level, not from the device. I don't see why they'd throttle 3G and not 4G (LTE).
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I am currently stuck on the update without root like many.. but the main reason I root is for tether for my unlimited account.. I downloaded and paid for foxfi (now also pdanet) and it obviously didn't work a few weeks back.. however a new update today and the wifi hotspot works.. creates a vpn to work, but I am currently on it now.. update says for the maxx hd and others doesn't list the dna but I can confirm it works.. maybe worth the 5 bucks to someone here. Just a heads up.. (created this account just for this thread, I usually only lurk)
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I am currently stuck on the update without root like many.. but the main reason I root is for tether for my unlimited account.. I downloaded and paid for foxfi (now also pdanet) and it obviously didn't work a few weeks back.. however a new update today and the wifi hotspot works.. creates a vpn to work, but I am currently on it now.. update says for the maxx hd and others doesn't list the dna but I can confirm it works.. maybe worth the 5 bucks to someone here. Just a heads up.. (created this account just for this thread, I usually only lurk)
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if it works, its worth it. Vz currently won't let me hotspot at all (grandfather unlimited)
orateam said:
if it works, its worth it. Vz currently won't let me hotspot at all (grandfather unlimited)
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OP is also on grandfathered unlimited.
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Great news. Finally! I'll try it.
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I have the DNA, and an unlimited plan. By default, when you try to tether up it will tell you to call your carrier to subscribe. You can do it, but you need to be rooted. If you are rooted then install the Android Wifi Tether app from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.android.wifi.tether
Once you run the app use the following settings:
Device-Profile: Generic ICS/JB (wlan0)
Setup-Method: Auto
Enable "WiFi-driver reload"
Enable "Routing fix"
This should get you up and going.
But we're not rooted. This is "tether without root" discussion. If you're rooted, sure, you can use wifi tether no problem. The problem is to tether without root.
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If you get the latest wireless tether beta from Google there is an option for non root tether. I haven't been able to test it because I'm rooted but someone should try it.
It just uses the native tether framework. So Vzw can throttle it
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It just uses the native tether framework. So Vzw can throttle it
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And charge for it
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kaliblazin707 said:
It just uses the native tether framework. So Vzw can throttle it
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I forgot if I looked it up or not, but this throttling term, what exactly does it mean?
And how likely are you to lose your grandfathered unlimited plan by tethering?
nived09 said:
I forgot if I looked it up or not, but this throttling term, what exactly does it mean?
And how likely are you to lose your grandfathered unlimited plan by tethering?
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You won't lose it. And throttling is a server-side limit on your data throughput. Meaning really slow speeds
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You won't lose it. And throttling is a server-side limit on your data throughput. Meaning really slow speeds
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Really? You'll never lose it based on your usage? I've read otherwise and people saying that you'll be fine, so I've just been confused.
I currently use Clockwork tether until I can get rooted and use the wifi tether, decent app, reliable and good speeds.
nived09 said:
Really? You'll never lose it based on your usage? I've read otherwise and people saying that you'll be fine, so I've just been confused.
I currently use Clockwork tether until I can get rooted and use the wifi tether, decent app, reliable and good speeds.
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Nope you won't ever lose It. Some people in here use several hundred gigs a month. As long as your rooted you won't get charged/throttled either
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Nope you won't ever lose It. Some people in here use several hundred gigs a month. As long as your rooted you won't get charged/throttled either
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Well that is great news xD!
I actually went to the VZW store in the mall where I live to activate my dna since I needed a new sim,
and they decided to look at my data usuage, I was kind of nervous and the new person was being trained by the
manager and the new person was like "... You used 100gigs last month?" and the manager looked and said "I'm going
to give you a high five for that, that's the new store record here". Definitely a funny day and we continued to talk about
the phone, tethering and JTAG.
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Nope you won't ever lose It. Some people in here use several hundred gigs a month. As long as your rooted you won't get charged/throttled either
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But the more people who exploit their unlimited data by tethering huge amounts of data the sooner Verizon will force everyone off unlimited data.
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Bigandrewgold said:
But the more people who exploit their unlimited data by tethering huge amounts of data the sooner Verizon will force everyone off unlimited data.
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From what I have read is that they can cancel your unlimited data if you are negatively effecting others experience.
Which can mean what ever they want it to really, but also you have the unlimited data to do as you please as long as
you please to.
So I really don't know on this topic.
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From what I have read is that they can cancel your unlimited data if you are negatively effecting others experience.
Which can mean what ever they want it to really, but also you have the unlimited data to do as you please as long as
you please to.
So I really don't know on this topic.
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If they cancel your unlimited for you using too much, you can get out of your contract. I use 90-100 gigs a month. One tech asked me how I used so much. I just said that I watch a lot of Netflix on my phone.
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I can't be bothered to Google it, but Verizon can't charge or throttle LTE tethering I do believe. Had something to do with the block C purchase and the FCC. Could be wrong though, bit I do remember reading something along those lines.
They can charge for the stock Wi-Fi hotspot app service, but if you use something else I think it's exempt...
Again, could be wrong...
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If they cancel your unlimited for you using too much, you can get out of your contract. I use 90-100 gigs a month. One tech asked me how I used so much. I just said that I watch a lot of Netflix on my phone.
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I'm pretty most everyone who currently has unlimited is already out of their contract.
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Phaded said:
I can't be bothered to Google it, but Verizon can't charge or throttle LTE tethering I do believe. Had something to do with the block C purchase and the FCC. Could be wrong though, bit I do remember reading something along those lines.
They can charge for the stock Wi-Fi hotspot app service, but if you use something else I think it's exempt...
Again, could be wrong...
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They can't charge for tiered data, but they can and do for unlimited data, for obvious reasons.
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Not sure what you mean by out of your contract. I still have mine all good and well.
Bigandrewgold said:
I'm pretty most everyone who currently has unlimited is already out of their contract.
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I'm in mine and still have unlimited. Just got the DNA yesterday. VZW replaced my 4th RAZR in 4 days with a brand new phone of my choice (other than the iPhone 5).
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Okay so I have 5 lines on my plan. Two unlimited data and 3 phones.
One of my lines with unlimited data has an upgrade but you cant upgrade or you have to change your plan and lose unlimited. So. Is it possible to give the upgrade to a non smart phone. Upgrade it. Put it back to basic phone. And switch it to my unlimited data line without losing unlimited.
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I got lucky enough a radio shack employee knew a way of upgrading my line with unlimited and still kept unlimited.
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bump. I'm in the same situation and do not know
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Verizon is suppose to allow upgrading on existing unlimited data plan and you can spread the fatal cost of the phone over 12 months. You pay more for the phone but the cushion is the monthly payments and you keep unlimited data.
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Bxrider117 said:
Verizon is suppose to allow upgrading on existing unlimited data plan and you can spread the fatal cost of the phone over 12 months. You pay more for the phone but the cushion is the monthly payments and you keep unlimited data.
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I have never heard this before, I paid full price for mine because I didnt want to lose unlimited data. When did this go into effect?
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shangrila500 said:
I have never heard this before, I paid full price for mine because I didnt want to lose unlimited data. When did this go into effect?
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I read it on Droid Life forum. I'm going to see if I can find the article.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...out-extending-your-contract-strings-attached/
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imablackhat said:
Okay so I have 5 lines on my plan. Two unlimited data and 3 phones.
One of my lines with unlimited data has an upgrade but you cant upgrade or you have to change your plan and lose unlimited. So. Is it possible to give the upgrade to a non smart phone. Upgrade it. Put it back to basic phone. And switch it to my unlimited data line without losing unlimited.
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Yes you can. I've done it twice already. Make sure you get the phone from a vendor that does not charge you if you transfer the device from the original activated line. Best Buy & Radio Shack will not penalize you. Amazon will.
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imablackhat said:
Okay so I have 5 lines on my plan. Two unlimited data and 3 phones.
One of my lines with unlimited data has an upgrade but you cant upgrade or you have to change your plan and lose unlimited. So. Is it possible to give the upgrade to a non smart phone. Upgrade it. Put it back to basic phone. And switch it to my unlimited data line without losing unlimited.
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Yes, this is possible. I have done this multiple times, just make sure they know exactly what you want done.
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I read it on Droid Life forum. I'm going to see if I can find the article.
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Awesome, from what I reqd the only thing that could be a problem is that you may have to be in a contract to be eligible for it, its still an unknown at this point thought.
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Here's what I did to keep unlimited data.
I got the phone from vzw.com using my wifes upgrade. After I received the phone I went to vzw.com and transfered it to my line. both lines still have unlimited data.
Use the upgrade to upgrade someone elses phone. Swap the new phone to your line and reactivate the old phone on the spare line you just upgraded. Done.
Lodingi said:
Yes you can. I've done it twice already. Make sure you get the phone from a vendor that does not charge you if you transfer the device from the original activated line. Best Buy & Radio Shack will not penalize you. Amazon will.
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funny that you mention that amazon does that...since they didnt do it to me. i signed up for a new line...bought a gnex...sold said gnex to a friend...put a dummy phone on the line...no extra charges. it has been a year now.
willlay said:
funny that you mention that amazon does that...since they didnt do it to me. i signed up for a new line...bought a gnex...sold said gnex to a friend...put a dummy phone on the line...no extra charges. it has been a year now.
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Ahh. I was told you had to keep it on the activated line for 180 days to avoid penalty. I appreciate the correction.
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Pretty sure you just need to keep the line open from what I've seen.
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Any updated tricks to get around the dreaded AT&T throttling for unlimited users besides not using so much data? None of the APN settings I try work.
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I personally haven't seen any successful workaround for the throttling posted here on XDA.
Bsmith0731 said:
Any updated tricks to get around the dreaded AT&T throttling for unlimited users besides not using so much data? None of the APN settings I try work.
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I've been trying to figure this out since I had my Galaxy S3 with no luck. I don't think its really do-able. I'm about to break down and switch to one of the 10GB shared family plans as I'm the only one on my account that uses any data.
redpoint73 said:
I personally haven't seen any successful workaround for the throttling posted here on XDA.
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The old swapping of the APN used to work for me..
zacharyt86 said:
I've been trying to figure this out since I had my Galaxy S3 with no luck. I don't think its really do-able. I'm about to break down and switch to one of the 10GB shared family plans as I'm the only one on my account that uses any data.
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It's Almost pointless to keep unlimited. That throttle speed is horrible.
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Bsmith0731 said:
The old swapping of the APN used to work for me..
It's Almost pointless to keep unlimited. That throttle speed is horrible.
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Yeah it is. They have effectively made the unlimited plan useless, which is what I think they set out to do, when I'm being capped its something like 50kb/s, and that is just unusable.
zacharyt86 said:
Yeah it is. They have effectively made the unlimited plan useless, which is what I think they set out to do, when I'm being capped its something like 50kb/s, and that is just unusable.
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I usually end my month right around 5 to 6 gb. But as soon as it happens you recognize it immediately!
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Isn't there something in the contract that prevents them from doing that. If you're paying for unlimited 4G when you're on a 4G signal it should be unlimited at 4G speeds. That's just bull! Glad I'm not on AT&T.
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w4itg said:
Isn't there something in the contract that prevents them from doing that. If you're paying for unlimited 4G when you're on a 4G signal it should be unlimited at 4G speeds. That's just bull! Glad I'm not on AT&T.
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Isn't that the truth
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w4itg said:
Isn't there something in the contract that prevents them from doing that. If you're paying for unlimited 4G when you're on a 4G signal it should be unlimited at 4G speeds. That's just bull! Glad I'm not on AT&T.
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The contract terms state quite the opposite, actually:
AT&T may reduce your data throughput speeds at any time or place if your data usage exceeds an applicable, identified usage threshold during any billing cycle. AT&T will provide you with advance notice of the usage threshold applicable to your data plan, or any changes to the applicable usage threshold either by a bill insert, email, text message or other appropriate means
And folks on AT&T aren't "paying" for 4G specifically. For folks where 4G is not even available, they pay the same price for their data plan.
Is this correct ideologically, or even from a logical/common sense standpoint? Its easily arguable that AT&T is in the wrong; and I would agree with you there. AT&T's policy can easily be seen as anti-consumer, and solely in AT&T's own interest.
But are they technically or legally in the right, its pretty debatable either way. AT&T can argue various points, such as the fact that the technology has changed, and the terms can therefore change also. The fact of the matter (in my understanding) is that AT&T, and all the carriers are having trouble keeping up with market demand for bandwidth. Smartphones are getting more and more data hungry, along with the way folks use these devices. The longer terms outlook for the networks to keep up with data demand is not good, to say the least. The carriers are going to be dumping a lot of money to upgrade their networks over the coming years/decades. And that money needs to come form somewhere. Its in the carriers interest to force customers onto tiered plans.
Unfortunately, ;egal action regarding throttling has only met with limited success, from what I can find on Google. One person won a small claims lawsuit and was awarded $850. Probably not an effort that most of us would be interested in pursuing. Class action has only been specific to the iPad 3G (from what I can fine), and won each owner a whopping $40. And class action lawsuit is actually prohibited by the . . . . (wait for it) . . . . present AT&T contract terms (and upheld by the Supreme Court)!