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http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/7176-htc-sensation-4g-evo-3d-death-grip
"Tests carried out by NordicHardware show that the HTC Sensation 4G loses WiFi and Bluetooth strength when gripped in a certain way. Using a signal measuring app and regular audio apps, NordicHardware shows how the HTC Sensation 4G rapidly loses Bluetooth and Wi-Fi signal, even if its just sitting flat on the palm of your hand. The loss is substantial, with as much as 20 to 30 dBm down in connection speeds."
Will we see a similar issue with the evo 3d?
lmbebo said:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/7176-htc-sensation-4g-evo-3d-death-grip
"Tests carried out by NordicHardware show that the HTC Sensation 4G loses WiFi and Bluetooth strength when gripped in a certain way. Using a signal measuring app and regular audio apps, NordicHardware shows how the HTC Sensation 4G rapidly loses Bluetooth and Wi-Fi signal, even if its just sitting flat on the palm of your hand. The loss is substantial, with as much as 20 to 30 dBm down in connection speeds."
Will we see a similar issue with the evo 3d?
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The sensation's antennas are built into the back plate while the Evo's arent. Still, you would think HTC would have learned from apples mistakes...
I quickly lose Bluetooth connection on my Evo 4G when holding it in most positions. It cuts in and out just bouncing around in my pocket.
Seems like something you would test before you release a phone. Still surprised at what gets over looked.
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So who holds their phone like that?
Not me!!!
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The sensation's antennas are built into the back plate while the Evo's arent. Still, you would think HTC would have learned from apples mistakes...
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I don't have my pre-production EVO 3D, but a test Sensation 4G. I did the death grip 4 times, and nothing happened. I've never encounter that mistake on any HTC device I've had in my possession. Then again, why would I hold it that way? I take those test as if Apple are suffering with that mistake, Android devices must be suffering with it too. That's my opinion, because this is the first time I've even heard of this problem.
To quote the great Steve Jobs "don't hold it that way"
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That's my opinion, because this is the first time I've even heard of this problem.
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A lot of Android phones have this problem... Maybe not death grip but holding it sideways will lose reception with WiFi and even Bluetooth..
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nate420 said:
A lot of Android phones have this problem... Maybe not death grip but holding it sideways will lose reception with WiFi and even Bluetooth..
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Really? Let me try doing it with 4 different devices. Is it WiFi and Bluetooth both on, or is it separately?
Edit: Tried the Thunderbolt, Sensation 4G, Inspire 4G, Droid Charge, and the trusty EVO. WiFi and Bluetooth : no problems.
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Really? Let me try doing it with 4 different devices. Is it WiFi and Bluetooth both on, or is it separately?
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Mostly WiFi... But the g2x and sgs4g does it with both.... That I've tested
Id say try separate
I rarely use Bluetooth and only noticed it on WiFi
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mykrlz182 said:
To quote the great Steve Jobs "don't hold it that way"
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yes!!!!!!! logic!!!!
Yeah, I really hope the Evo 3D doesn't have that issue.. that's just what I need--all my smug iPhone friends coming over and giving me crap.
Can we change the name of this thread to "death gripe"?
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Hello; I've noticed something odd with my Note. I have a profile on Tasker to start Pandora when I'm plugged in and BT connected to my car headset/speaker. On my Evo 4G, it would be less than 2 seconds from hitting the Bluetooth switch to the profile activating. On the Note, it has taken upward of 20 seconds from Bluetooth "on" to actually pairing with the speaker and the profile activating. On a few occasions, all I get is the notification that there are open Bluetooth devices and have to manually select my device (Motorola Roadster, if it matters).
I've tried renaming the device, to make sure it wasn't "confused" with the Evo or something but no luck. It disconnects immediately, so doesn't seem to be an issue with the BT toggle or system setting.
Anyone have any ideas of how to speed up the pairing/connection?
Ditto. I always have to long press my cars Bluetooth and click connect otherwise it wont do it
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Have you tried leaving bt on constantly?
The skyrocket has the same issue.
Basically if bluetooth is turned off it kills re connect capability.
I have found that if you just leave bt on it reconects without issue
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00mred00 said:
Have you tried leaving bt on constantly?
The skyrocket has the same issue.
Basically if bluetooth is turned off it kills re connect capability.
I have found that if you just leave bt on it reconects without issue
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Defeats the purpose if want the battery to last.
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Defeats the purpose if want the battery to last.
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Meh...i have noticed no ill efect on battery. Unlike wifi bluetooth scans once when turned on and then only when told to...and only draws power when transmitting
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Not a deal breaker, but for any of you out there with a Gear S in hand, can you stream Pandora or anything else with this watch? If I left my phone in the car and went running, all I have is my watch and a bluetooth headset, would I still be able to listen to internet music... I am guessing with further Itzen development here on XDA, that one day will be possible if it isn't already.
So far, not right now. However, I imagine this could be coming to the watch down the road.
Yes, you can stream music, but as of right now only using the Milk music app.
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Yes, you can stream music, but as of right now only using the Milk music app.
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Well, that's something at least. I don't have a music library at all, I only use streaming services. So that will hold me over for now. Thank you.
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Well, that's something at least. I don't have a music library at all, I only use streaming services. So that will hold me over for now. Thank you.
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Let us know how it performs battery wise.
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Not a deal breaker, but for any of you out there with a Gear S in hand, can you stream Pandora or anything else with this watch? If I left my phone in the car and went running, all I have is my watch and a bluetooth headset, would I still be able to listen to internet music... I am guessing with further Itzen development here on XDA, that one day will be possible if it isn't already.
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Yeah if tizen gave us Pandora or another music app that would be terrific milk music for now
The is a "tunein" app made for tizen. Tunein is an Internet streaming radio wich I use a lot on my phone.
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I will know soon enough, local Tmobile just called me and they got some in. Didn't expect that for another week at least.
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I will know soon enough, local Tmobile just called me and they got some in. Didn't expect that for another week at least.
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yeah I'm on t-mobile Gs too we can stream music free yeahhh
would love if you could use google music on it. then i wouldnt need to drag my phone out at the gym.
So I got the Gear S! Tmobile received 4 and held one for me since I had issues getting a White Note 4 from them. I got the MILK app but it just acts as a remote for the phone! It doesn't stream to the watch itself.
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So I got the Gear S! Tmobile received 4 and held one for me since I had issues getting a White Note 4 from them. I got the MILK app but it just acts as a remote for the phone! It doesn't stream to the watch itself.
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Hum.. T-mobile says stream milk app is free maybe that only works on the phone itself (The free streaming part)
omg, i just got it. The first time i tried to stream from the watch, i turned off bluetooth so it be be a standalone, MILK gave me an error saying it couldn't connect to bluetooth device and it quit. but i didn't know it had wifi, so now i'm connected to wifi and it's working. I assume it will work on 3G as well, I'm not in a good area for data, so i basically get Edge network.
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omg, i just got it. The first time i tried to stream from the watch, i turned off bluetooth so it be be a standalone, MILK gave me an error saying it couldn't connect to bluetooth device and it quit. but i didn't know it had wifi, so now i'm connected to wifi and it's working. I assume it will work on 3G as well, I'm not in a good area for data, so i basically get Edge network.
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Yea it will work on 4G too so when you play milk it wont count against your data plan.
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Well, that's something at least. I don't have a music library at all, I only use streaming services. So that will hold me over for now. Thank you.
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Be mindful that streaming will significantly reduce battery life.
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Let us know how it performs battery wise.
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I'll pitch in on this one, I took it today for a run as standalone and for the 7 miles that I ran the battery went from 97% to 49% at the end of the run which was 1 hour long. I received a call that played about a minute lol and numerous email notifications. That being said I say that it will probably last at the most 2 hrs as a standalone with everything turned on and streaming music. Hope this help!
PS. The built in hr monitor is not very accurate and I think the GPS is a little bit off, but I'll have to check with my previous runs on endomondo.
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Be mindful that streaming will significantly reduce battery life.
I'll pitch in on this one, I took it today for a run as standalone and for the 7 miles that I ran the battery went from 97% to 49% at the end of the run which was 1 hour long. I received a call that played about a minute lol and numerous email notifications. That being said I say that it will probably last at the most 2 hrs as a standalone with everything turned on and streaming music. Hope this help!
PS. The built in hr monitor is not very accurate and I think the GPS is a little bit off, but I'll have to check with my previous runs on endomondo.
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I found the gps to be pretty accurate on my runs. I'm planning on wearing my polar hrm to see how accurate the hrm is. However, if it is like the gear fit was it is going to seem kinda erratic during the workout, but the end results will compare nicely to the polar.
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Be mindful that streaming will significantly reduce battery life.
I'll pitch in on this one, I took it today for a run as standalone and for the 7 miles that I ran the battery went from 97% to 49% at the end of the run which was 1 hour long. I received a call that played about a minute lol and numerous email notifications. That being said I say that it will probably last at the most 2 hrs as a standalone with everything turned on and streaming music. Hope this help!
PS. The built in hr monitor is not very accurate and I think the GPS is a little bit off, but I'll have to check with my previous runs on endomondo.
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I'm not very concerned with battery life. I have plenty of opportunities to charge the watch during the day. Especially since the charging dock is a battery too. Sure is a great feature for this little watch.
paitobp said:
Be mindful that streaming will significantly reduce battery life.
I'll pitch in on this one, I took it today for a run as standalone and for the 7 miles that I ran the battery went from 97% to 49% at the end of the run which was 1 hour long. I received a call that played about a minute lol and numerous email notifications. That being said I say that it will probably last at the most 2 hrs as a standalone with everything turned on and streaming music. Hope this help!
PS. The built in hr monitor is not very accurate and I think the GPS is a little bit off, but I'll have to check with my previous runs on endomondo.
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Do you ever have issues with it streaming Milk in "standalone" mode? I can not get it to stream, it only sits at the Milk splash screen weather on Wifi or 4G,(it does play on the phone when connected to Bluetooth). I have called Samsung and T-Mobile but no one has any idea how to fix. Samsung actually tried to tell me that Milk was discontinued and no longer supported, I guess he was out of trouble shooting ideas and wanted to get me off the phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated as this is the only reason I bought it and decide to leave my Moto 360 on the nightstand.
^ To be honest the only problem that I have had is that sometimes the app hangs and I lose audio for a little bit and then it comes back. Where I run there are a couple of spots where the signal is weak and I think that's what happen when it hangs. Other than that I have had not issues, but I haven't use Milk al that much.
How is your data usage streaming milk to run?
Curious I have been suffer in from bluetooth randomly disconnecting lately. Started in my car. Thought could be my deck. But its doing it in phone calls as well. I have a planatronics legend and it disconnected like 6 times in 20 minutes
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kaos420 said:
Curious I have been suffer in from bluetooth randomly disconnecting lately. Started in my car. Thought could be my deck. But its doing it in phone calls as well. I have a planatronics legend and it disconnected like 6 times in 20 minutes
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I'm having the same thing, but only on one headset.
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I'm having the same thing, but only on one headset.
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ya i factory reset as ive had several different cheap Bluetooth's hooked up. now its perfect between my stuff. i had to make sure to add all to trusted Bluetooth when it prompted i added everything. as i have my gear 2, my planatronics legend,car all played nice. only thing i gotta do is go into Bluetooth once now when in car to make audio default out car. as i have audio streaming turned on for the legend when i work. so far so good did a data reset from philz....but i will let my wife call her mother later with headset. its the long talk it was dropping see what happens. but this time i didnt install apps like greenfly
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Hi for those who have played with the Zenwatch 2, have you experienced any bluetooth disconnect issues?
I am about to buy one for my wife but heard there had been some bluetooth disconnect issues in the past with the orginal Zenwatch, so just want to make sure.
Thanks!
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I've noticed it does seem to disconnect a lot and even close to watch but usually connects back by itself
I have fun into this problem, but it doesn't happen very often. I assume it's a coding problem add Erik Gerry psyched with a firmware update when Marshmallow launches
Yes... regularly... multiple times a day. Phone is always in my shirt pocket, pants pocket or hand, so it's not a distance issue. Wish i could find a way to turn off the vibration every time it disconnects/reconnects
I don't seem to have this issue that I have noticed. Have had it for a bit now with no issues.
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I wonder if its the phone is connected to? The review I saw that mentioned it was using a Note 5 and I'm using an S6a
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Just bought my wife a AZ2 and it disconnects bluetooth often but reconnects
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I am using a zenfone 2 with my zenwatch. Only time I have noticed it disconnected is when I'm out of range of my phone which is normal. Otherwise everything seems consistent even compared to my Moto 360.
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I had a few disconnects beeing next to the phone. But only 3-4 times.
But I had a few reconnect issues after out-of-range disconnects. The watch didn't reconnect properly and I had to fiddle around, reboot, disable BT,...
I just need to use android wear on the phone to retry but it is still odd I suspect it is related to the OS on my phone for saving battery life?
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I wonder if its the phone is connected to? The review I saw that mentioned it was using a Note 5 and I'm using an S6a
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No random disconnects some switching to the Nexus 6P.
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I am using s6 edge+ and it seems to have more bluetooth disconnect issue with my other device after a recent OTA
I reset the watch rebooted the phone then the watch and removed the zen watch manager/zen camera and some unused watch face seems better now
Once we get on this watch. A lot of things can get fixed from us dev's. Just waiting on the source code.
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Weird. I have the LG G4 and had the LG G Watch for about 6 months prior to getting the AZW2 and I've never noticed it ever disconnect throughout the day. The only time is when I walk out of range, but it reconnects again when I am in the general area
I just got the disconnect issue today. If I restart the watch it'll reconnect, but only for a few minutes then it disconnects. Rinse and repeat. I'd do a factory reset if I weren't at work and far away from my charging cable.
I bought the Zenwatch 2 a week ago. I'm using it with my S6. Software on both is up to date however the watch continues to get disconnected. Last night I did a factory reset on the watch and after a few minutes it disconnected again. WiFi isn't turned on either (which I read might cause interference with the radio or frequencies). I don't think there's any other option left but to return this and try another Zenwatch 2 (hoping it is an isolated issue).
I had a few disconnects, but only when it was out of range. The thing is, I let the phone somewhere in the house and I just wander around. The range on this thing is amazing! But when I get back in range it just reconnects automatically, just as it should. I must say, I am really impressed with the little one :d
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Just curious if this is the way the device works with my phone, the Android Wear app always says "connected", however, whenever I go to the bluetooth settings on the watch, it's always disconnected...........no matter how many times I hit it to connect, it never does................but I always get notifications as usual, and it will vibrate for every call I receive on my phone.
Wifi is still connected. Never used bluetooth since i last setup my watch. Just using my phone as WiFi access point.
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