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the Iphone works with an DSRL Remote app. I have an HTC HD2 and it works with winmobile 6 and with android now. Does somebody know an app which works on android or winmobile 6 like the DSRL Remote camcorder app ?
Greeting from Germany
Carsten
been thinking of that for some time now, would LOVE that. But I read somewhere that it may be a problem to use the USB port as host...
http://www.gphoto.org/ ?
i recently found out that it is possible to do this with a nintendo ds but it requires some DIY work or paying someone to do this for you, surprisingly even in germany there seem to be some people building these.
my uncle bought one of these cables/modules for his canon 5dmk2 a few weeks ago. since i got my hands on it I thought about how awesome such a feature would be (preferably wireless) on an a phone.
I would love something like that! An android phone would make the holy grail of dSLR remote controls. Time intervals, exposure settings, super-smooth HDRI with bracketing of multiple photos, live view, hell even motion activated shooting (figure out a way to detect motion from image through the live view and trigger a shutter release every time that happens).
Anyone up for this?! I'll be getting both my SGS and 5DMKII in about a month, super willing to beta-test
I'd love this too for Nikon Devices!
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I'd love this too for Nikon Devices!
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It is possible. Only drawback is that a laptop is needed like with the iphone app.
So a possible setup would be like this:
Camera <-> USB cable <-> Laptop running Linux <-> WLAN/Edge/3G <-> Android
The only big dislike is the laptop in that chain
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It is possible. Only drawback is that a laptop is needed like with the iphone app.
So a possible setup would be like this:
Camera <-> USB cable <-> Laptop running Linux <-> WLAN/Edge/3G <-> Android
The only big dislike is the laptop in that chain
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It's the same setup used for the iPhone, it's basically a remote control setup and I can't really see how it helps that much, it feels like more of a gimmick rather than something helpful since you still need to carry a laptop with you.
Now, if the camera could be directly connected to the phone, that'd be awesome, since you pretty much carry a phone with you at all times.
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It's the same setup used for the iPhone, it's basically a remote control setup and I can't really see how it helps that much, it feels like more of a gimmick rather than something helpful since you still need to carry a laptop with you.
Now, if the camera could be directly connected to the phone, that'd be awesome, since you pretty much carry a phone with you at all times.
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That's the point. It is not possible... well, everything is, but the effort cannot be worth the outcome.
It is more likely to do it with an Arduino board with Wlan chip and USB host.
But then again, you have to reverse engineer the Nikon and Canon protocols or use the linux library.... Should be possible, but you need to buy some hardware anyway.
Check this:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...h/gphoto/remote.html&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de
Cheap plug-computers like sheevaplug or this one: http://www.ionicsplug.com/cumulus.html would make it kind of easy as they run linux, have USB connector(s) and have WLAN (sheevaplug needs USB WLAN stick).
Cross-compiling gphoto library, writing a software which talks through gphoto to the cam and report the capabilities back to the connected Android / Iphone.
Only (major) drawback is that those plug computers need a power supply. I have seen someone running sheevaplug with solar panel .
Sheevaplug is around 75€, so quite affordable.
I need to connect my 5DM2 and check whether things like touch-focus, live preview and stuff would be possible...
What do you think about the power plug issue?
Hehe, I like how you assumed that I can understand these things I dont
At work atm but will try to read through the article, but as I understand so far, this guy uses a small linux computer that can communicate through a WLAN adapter so you basically have a wifi remote control. Looks pretty darn cool, especially for the money, and using a solar panel would be awesome!
Only thing is that it doesn't have that much to do with android as far as I can tell, if it's a web interface then you can use it with any device, right?
What I was thinking was more in the likes of a replacement for the $100+ timer triggers with your phone. I think it should be possible but maybe people wouldn't invest in it (though I think they should).
BTW, I just remembered that you can also trigger the camera through the headphone jack, as with those diy remote releases. Do you think there could be a way to use the SGS headphone jack to cause shutter releases? You wouldn't get any control of the settings from the phone, but you could still program time intervals or bulb shots! Hey, even motion sensing shots, provided you dock your phone some place. And you have to admit it doesn't sound too difficult, right?
See the diy thing here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Rem...or-Canon-Cameras/step2/Cut-off-the-ear-peice/
If/when someone does make something like this, I would think a small netbook would be sufficiently portable, compared to a 15" or 17" laptop, to use as the "host" device.
zeusalmighty said:
Hehe, I like how you assumed that I can understand these things I dont
At work atm but will try to read through the article, but as I understand so far, this guy uses a small linux computer that can communicate through a WLAN adapter so you basically have a wifi remote control. Looks pretty darn cool, especially for the money, and using a solar panel would be awesome!
Only thing is that it doesn't have that much to do with android as far as I can tell, if it's a web interface then you can use it with any device, right?
What I was thinking was more in the likes of a replacement for the $100+ timer triggers with your phone. I think it should be possible but maybe people wouldn't invest in it (though I think they should).
BTW, I just remembered that you can also trigger the camera through the headphone jack, as with those diy remote releases. Do you think there could be a way to use the SGS headphone jack to cause shutter releases? You wouldn't get any control of the settings from the phone, but you could still program time intervals or bulb shots! Hey, even motion sensing shots, provided you dock your phone some place. And you have to admit it doesn't sound too difficult, right?
See the diy thing here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Rem...or-Canon-Cameras/step2/Cut-off-the-ear-peice/
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I see. The thing is there are ready to use solutions out there which do exactly what you are requesting.
My approach was a different one. I wanted to be able to mount the camera somewhere, connect sheevaplug, then go somewhere and remotely control the camera in every aspect. Imaging you have to shoot a marriage. You could place the camera somewhere, take a seat somewhere and see exactly the live-view image from the camera, can point somewhere on the touchscreen to focus on that point, control exposure settings and hit the button to take the shot.
That was my approach. If I would be able to achieve this just with a sheevaplug computer for 75€, that would be great. But there still is the issue with the power necessary to run the computer.
Another problem would be to gain the time needed to write the app. I am able to do that, but time is rare...
I can understand the appeal, as I said it would be awesome to have such a setup, just not for me so far. I'll try to understand how the shutter release works through the remote and report here, i think the headphone jack would be really nice considering that no amount of extra equipment would be necessary, apart from the cable.
Just a quick question, why would you require any coding on the phone, why not use a VNC-like application and install the official canon application on windows?
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I can understand the appeal, as I said it would be awesome to have such a setup, just not for me so far. I'll try to understand how the shutter release works through the remote and report here, i think the headphone jack would be really nice considering that no amount of extra equipment would be necessary, apart from the cable.
Just a quick question, why would you require any coding on the phone, why not use a VNC-like application and install the official canon application on windows?
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have you ever tried to watch a movie through a VNC connection?
Sheevaplug is driven by a Marvell ARM CPU, no x86 which would be needed by Windows. So only possible way would be to install linux with virtualization, setup windows XP in a container, install EOS software and a VNC server, then use a crappy VNC client on Android to control my camera? Sounds like a crappy setup to me
Having a small, slick and performant native UI would be muuuuuuch better.
I personally don't think that you will succeed with this headphone jack thingie. But I wish you good luck
Hehe, thanks
Good luck with ur project.
Lookie what I just found...
Googling aroud on more general terms for this topic, i found someone pointing to libgPhoto, a multi platform camera control lib: *crap, cannot post links, wtf*
*edit* google for libGphoto, it also has a remote.
Looking a bit further, i came across this:
google for : gitorious agphoto2 commits / master
Now i haven't found any more info on the project yet, but this looks like a project that some of us here on XDA could maybe join in on.. The only problem that then remains is the usb-usb cable There's an actual start on porting an existing lib available!
Just to keep this discussion running (I am not a programmer).
Take a look at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00321.html They are making progress on a workable solution...
klaus27 said:
I see. The thing is there are ready to use solutions out there which do exactly what you are requesting.
My approach was a different one. I wanted to be able to mount the camera somewhere, connect sheevaplug, then go somewhere and remotely control the camera in every aspect. Imaging you have to shoot a marriage. You could place the camera somewhere, take a seat somewhere and see exactly the live-view image from the camera, can point somewhere on the touchscreen to focus on that point, control exposure settings and hit the button to take the shot.
That was my approach. If I would be able to achieve this just with a sheevaplug computer for 75€, that would be great. But there still is the issue with the power necessary to run the computer.
Another problem would be to gain the time needed to write the app. I am able to do that, but time is rare...
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You just want cash
I'm in for this and would pay for software like this. I even got time for programming but cant do this alone. Just got my nikon D5000
Revisit: Direct Tether for xoom?
With all of our marvelous hacking friends, I don't see why we couldn't expect direct tethering for a DSLR on Xoom or other tabs with usb capabilities.
TheZuneLune said:
With all of our marvelous hacking friends, I don't see why we couldn't expect direct tethering for a DSLR on Xoom or other tabs with usb capabilities.
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I am teaching myself how to use my DSLR, and I begin thinking... "Wow, a lot of these settings could be a lot easier and more intuitive to control... why isn't there a DSLR powered by Android?"
Anyway, I found this thread and I figured I'd post my Xoom hooked up to my Canon. ..Not that either recognizes the other.
Have any possibiliti to make hdmi for x10, from arc sources and implement via micro usb like in nokia? In service menu also have hdmi?
I am Zulea, past developer of unlocking tools. You know USB Smart, but now I am out.
Sorry.
I also think the same micro usb to hdmi i asked this before i asked this but didnt get the ansnwer.
galaxy s can do this.
Caan our developers impliment this???
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This would be awesome, we have some great devs here, if anyone can its them!
I think that can BE DEVELOPED!
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I think that can BE DEVELOPED!
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Go for it!
need ask azuzu zdihu doomloard....
that would really be great!
And I think they also could implement USB OTG for x10..
we'll see what the devs gonna do!
Really great will be. Time will show.....
Someone sent this to all devs
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kalack93 said:
that would really be great!
And I think they also could implement USB OTG for x10..
we'll see what the devs gonna do!
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you are talking like everything is possible with x10(like quadcore).not that i dont like to have HDMI,but its very very unlikly
(dont get me wrong brother)
Anyone know any dev to show him this?....
Every dev most likely already "thought" about this many times, but this is a dream, it could be possible to get somehow a video output using usb or even the phone connector, yes it would be possible, but that would be a very poor output, because they would have to remap somehow a software encoder inside the phone to redirect data using USB or phone connector and connected in the usb or phone would have to be an adapter that would again translate the information in some vga, A/V, RGB, or at max S-Video, nothing like HDMI could ever happen as there is no such hardware for this built inside x10.
Don't dream on this guys, this is not like something that you can build on drivers.
Here goes an example of things that may be developed in future for x10:
Mass storage like pen drive(connecting a pen drive in the phone directly)
Mouse, keyboard and other input stuf.
Further undervolt and overclocks.
Multitouch, real multitouch(no dual touch as it is now with axis issue)
This may be developed sooner, and only maybe...
HDMI is too far from possible, not impossible though, but yet they would have to find a hardware in the phone to use for that which i don't really know if there is such a thing in x10, but i doubt.
@ all dev...
Is it possible to use USB OTG...?? like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224676
Or
Live Dock support for x10??
any hope..
This would be amazing but highly unlikely. I just don't think the X10 has the necessary hardware to push HD video out of the USB controller. The only thing I would add is there is a HDMI section in the Service Menu. I don't know if that would help us but it's a place to start.
@xpaa thanks for the interesting link.
My wife's Samsung Infuse 4G came with the hdmi adapter and my first thought was, "How the heck would you get HDMI speed out of a USB anyway?"
i also try so many ways to share my videos and photos on TV via Hdmi out .. even i found some suitable cables for X10 which was selling for that aims. try to search vivaz audio video cable , it is working like output from audio jack , in vivaz it shows videos but in x10 only audio no video , but it is possible via Wi fi share photos and videos on TV
About Live Dock to regret it doesnt support X10 ( only neo , arc , arc s , pro ) as i know
So I have a Panasonic GH2 that I use to shoot short films and music videos, and have been looking into getting an external monitor for it to see more details in the while I'm shooting, but since the Prime has an mini HDMI port, is it possible that I can just use that? The GH2 has an hdmi output (micro I think) and there has been some developers hacking it so external monitors can be used. Since I have under 8 posts, I can't post a link to it just yet.
Also, I know it wasn't possible with the first Transformer, but since the Prime has a quad core processor and has proven it can handle HD video with some demo's we've seen, would it be able to handle and playback raw footage from the camera straight from an SD card? The GH2 produces is AVCHD 1080p, it shows up on computers as .MTS files If that helps.
If all this worked, this would make the Prime even more of a bargain. Being able to view footage on a 10 inch screen and then even show it to actors and crew right after would add a ton of convenience.
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So I have a Panasonic GH2 that I use to shoot short films and music videos, and have been looking into getting an external monitor for it to see more details in the while I'm shooting, but since the Prime has an mini HDMI port, is it possible that I can just use that? The GH2 has an hdmi output (micro I think) and there has been some developers hacking it so external monitors can be used. Since I have under 8 posts, I can't post a link to it just yet.
Also, I know it wasn't possible with the first Transformer, but since the Prime has a quad core processor and has proven it can handle HD video with some demo's we've seen, would it be able to handle and playback raw footage from the camera straight from an SD card? The GH2 produces is AVCHD 1080p, it shows up on computers as .MTS files If that helps.
If all this worked, this would make the Prime even more of a bargain. Being able to view footage on a 10 inch screen and then even show it to actors and crew right after would add a ton of convenience.
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I don't think it's a matter of the CPU being able to handle the load, but rather, whether or not the system is built to accept incoming video signal, which I'm pretty sure it can't.
I see, and there would be no way possible a modification or hack such as Cyanogenmod would allow it to accept incoming video signal? Or even have an app designed to do that function?
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I see, and there would be no way possible a modification or hack such as Cyanogenmod would allow it to accept incoming video signal? Or even have an app designed to do that function?
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There was an app a few months ago, that was made for the iOS that let you extend to an iPad/phone and was mentioned to be ported to Android as well. But I can't remember the name.
However you could only interface via a computer, essentially reverse-remote desktop. I'll do some digging when I get back from class.
Sorry if I am not answering your question directly (at least not for your specific video camera), but you reminded me of an alternative that I will definitely explore if/when I have my own Android device i.e. DSLR Controller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxvFYza6Y4
In this case, the software takes advantage of Canon DSLR cameras and a USB connection to 'view' (and control) the camera remotely.
This guy used a Toshiba Thrive tablet (rather than an Android phone) to test and comment on it:
http://androidandme.com/2011/08/applications/dslr-controller-brings-live-view-canon-shooting-via-usb/
Now THAT is kinda neat.
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Now as the Nook tablet does not have a camera, I was wondering if there was any thought of the possibility of somehow getting an external camera to work with it. Whether this be some sort of webcam or what I have no idea. I just thought I'd throw the idea out there and maybe someone has some brainstorming thoughts that could help.
So, any thoughts on rigging up some sort of camera setup or how we could approach this?
It's not possible atm with the stock B&N os. USB hosting has to be activated with custom ROMs in order for you to connect the digital camera via the micro USB port.
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It's not possible atm with the stock B&N os. USB hosting has to be activated with custom ROMs in order for you to connect the digital camera via the micro USB port.
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on that note then, are there cameras that can be used with the android os that we could take advantage of when cm9 is made public?
Any digital camera should be able to connect to the Nook Tablet once the USB hosting mode is enabled in the custom ROM. The Nook Color with CM7 allows users to review digital camera pics when connected to the micro USB in host mode. Fattire and other devs are working on CM9 for Nook Color to allow USB host. Now that the bootloader is cracked, custom roms and CM9 are sure to follow. Patience.
I'm perfectly patient thanks. My question was simply to do with if its possible at all and if theres any precedence in the matter. After doing some research (some of which was I found similar to what you stated) it seems that it is, it'll just take a bit of work, as with any of this tinkering.
Apparently the hardware has Bluetooth, so it CM9 can harness that power, there will be another potential connection point for an imaging device.
Looks like no antenna though, so range will be <1m.
That wouldn't be so bad for such peripherals like a camera or keyboard.
In fact, the only bluetooth devices I use with my Xoom are my keyboard and mouse.
tinycam sure works well and is visible in the market so no need to do the tb/db shuffle. I haven't tried it for a dedicated cam but if it works with all the others I don't see whay it shouldn't.
probably a bad idea
How about using a wifi based camera? We know wifi works reliably.
I just bought a Nikon D3300 camera and the cam has this IR receiver through which i can take photos wirelesly, the problem is, since its this stupid qremote doesnt have this in its database, can sum1 whos owning a Nikon ML-L3 Remote who has root access on their g2 can provide a titanium backup of the data ? so that we can use it ? just think about it, itll be very helpful to all the photography enthusiasts around the world who are using G2 and nikon cameras.
the same thing can even be applied to cannon cmaeras or any other cameras for that matter