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I am wondering whether the charging methods make a difference to battery life?
How do you charge your battery, and also your initial charge from new?
This is the first phone I've had that I didn't leave the initial charge on all night 16 hours initial as recommended by most phone manufacturers, and I just took it off after a few hours when it was charged up. Do you think that affects the performance of the battery? I've never charged it for more than a few hours. The main reason I don't leave it on all night is because it gets really hot, so when it goes green light, it's done for me
Do any of you let it run out past the amber warning colour as a completely flat battery is probably better to charge?
All my other phones were left on charge all night, every night, but they weren't this type of phone.... and in truth, it makes no difference whatsoever to the battery. The Motos also needed charging every day
Stunning work guys, 56 views by people I can only assume own the Hero, and nobody wants to divulge their dirty secrets about battery charging... Thanks anyway
Just look around google for Li-ion recharging, there is plenty of resources to read up on when trying to keep battery life at a maximum.
Peter Franks said:
Stunning work guys, 56 views by people I can only assume own the Hero, and nobody wants to divulge their dirty secrets about battery charging... Thanks anyway
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probably because the hero is so new that nobody can tell anything about the battery life? and i don't suppose any of the 56 people has two heros and did the experiment of charging one full and the other for 16 hours, only to use them in the same manner afterwards and count battery life... ?
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probably because the hero is so new that nobody can tell anything about the battery life? and i don't suppose any of the 56 people has two heros and did the experiment of charging one full and the other for 16 hours, only to use them in the same manner afterwards and count battery life... ?
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Yeh, that wasn't actually my point, but thanks anyway!
112 now...
I was wondering how many people just got the phone, and charged it 16 hours initially or couple of hours and go, and do they leave on all night despite it getting hot.
Not hard...
You should charge it until it is fully charged but not leave it on charge extensively - excess heat may cause the battery life to reduce (although I wouldn't know how much degradation this would cause). It is probably ok every once in a while to leave it on charge overnight, in theory the phone should have circuits to protect against overcharging it anyway. 2 hours is about right for a charge cycle. You should charge it when the phone advises to do so - 15% or less charge. The Lithium Ion battery will only recharge cycle effectively a minimum of 300 times but I would estimate conservatively that is the number of times you can recharge. 2 days between recharges would give you about 2 years life out of a battery. I recharge it every two days, and charge time is about 2 hours.
Yeh, I have to charge it every day though......... Never lasts longer. I just wondered if you were supposed to do the initial first charge overnight and whether it sets the standard for the length of time you get each day after that?
i guess every hero is different. longest i used my phone without charging is 2 days with moderate use.
before i charge my phone i kill all tasks in the background and clear my browser history. might not make a difference but to me it feels better to have a fresh phone after charge.
Is that with the task killer app, or is there another way?
I can't imagine mine ever lasting 2 days.....
Peter Franks said:
Is that with the task killer app, or is there another way?
I can't imagine mine ever lasting 2 days.....
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I'm using TaskPanel as a taskiller...
when i got the hero the battery was ~half full. i charged it for about half an hour, but had to stop the charging before it was full.
the battery doesn't last longer than one day, although i play a lot with it (obviously). when i put it to the charger i try to let it charge fully up, and i noticed that the charging is stopped when the battery is full (you see the icon in the not.bar go back to normal green battery, and the phone cools down noticably after charging is completed). concerning this i have no problem to leave it plugged in overnight. checked last night, when NOT plugged in it takes 4% of battery for ~7 hours in airplane mode.
H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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Never saw that with my phone. Don't think its normal
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All of this is normal?
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Kind of if it's new, cycle the battery a few times and it should sort itself out.
Yeah the same thing happens to me. I checked juice plotter and at 2:30 am, I'm fully charged then at 5:00 am, I'm at 70 percent. The it repeats the cycle.
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H, I just got the x10a. I have some questions about the process of charging the phone.
With my last 2 phones, an k850 and a xperia x1a i learned to charge the phone every night. I arrived at home, plugged the phones to their chargers , sleep. Wake up, went to work at 7, battery was at 100% every morning.
Now with the x10a, i arrive at home, battery is almost at 40% aprox, plug the phone to the charger, and go to sleep, wake up at the same time and battery is always at 60~70%, with the cable and back of phone running hot. Yesterday went to see the phone status at 11pm, battery was at 90%, went to sleep, wake up at 4am checked the phone and battery was at 52%, so instead of charging, was discharging, is this normal behavior? I removed the battery and put it on again and the charge jumped to 85%.
All of this is normal?
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That is very odd.. has someone timed how long it takes for the battery to get to 100% Just today I got the please charge now message.. it took 2 hours give or take to get to 100% it maybe you need to cycle the battery. I am using my blackberry 9700 battery charger ( OEM one was left in my hotel room ) The blackberry is output 5VDC and 700mA.
I've noticed that charging the phone using a USB port takes a lot more time that when using an AC/DC adaptor. The USB ports on my PC give out 100 milliamps while the AC/DC adaptor that came with the phone gives out 700 milliamps. Are you charging using a PC USB port or an AC/DC adaptor?
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I've had this happen a few times I plug the phone in at night & when I wake up it's still charging and warm. I now shut my phone off before plugging in the charger & have not had the problem. My guess is some process is running in the background preventing it from properly charging.
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
Phone off worked!
Had a same weird issue after 5 months of usage. First 5 months were fine (needed to charge once every 24 hours). Have noticed in past 2-3 days that when I leave it for chanrging overnight, it does not go to 100%. Sometimes it would go upto 76%, other time 86 and so on. Cannot understand this. Have not installed anything in last 2-3 days either. Do not know the root cause but solution suggested by Phoneguy above worked. That is, I put netwrok setting OFF and then switch my phone OFF. Then I plugin phone to charger and start charging. This way it is getting charged to 100%. Hopefully this workaround will last for another year, at least
zhoustanley said:
ya just cycle the battery few times and it should be okay. it should be noted that the x10 will charge to 100% and stop charging until the battery drops down to 90% (at least for me)
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Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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This is normal and for Security. When you leave the Phone charging when it has 100 it stops Charging until 90 or something then charge again becouse if it wouldnt do it your Battery will run too hot and could make real damage.
outie said:
Mine does the same thing. I checked with battery graph. It charged to 100% and then it'd stop and drop to 90% and charged back to 100%, in repeated cycles. Is this just a X10 thing? I want to have 100% before leaving the house!
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The phone actively discharges the battery when plugged in. I've tried the above suggestions and they worked, but only found small success as the battery wouldn't charge past 40%. Now my phone will not boot and the battery is completely drained.
I called SE North America last night and they told me that I broke the battery. I called BS and they then told me that they'll send me a free new battery as a courtesy despite it not being covered in the warranty. Overall, a pretty good experience, but the key point the rep said was to not trickle charge the battery.
I do have a sneaking suspision that it's not the battery because it's only 5 months old, but good because they didn't say anything about the phone not being officially released in the US and not being supported by a warranty.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted as well...lolz.
here it is my graph for the last day, plugged the charger aroung 4pm batt was at 13%, in the office and around 8pm from home, if you see, from 8:44pm to 9:41pm the batt was at 100% an then it goes down and reach 60% at 3am, so it was discharging, and then it tried to charge to reach 100% but couldnt. at 6:30am i woke up and bat was at 78%. so, how can i get it to keep the charge, i dont mind going form 90 to 100 but not going from 100 to 60 and to 100.
anybody can help?
Is anybody having problems fully charging the battery to100 percent? I noticed the battery life has gotten worse since I owned the phone. it would always charge 100 percent. Now it only charges to about 98 percent. I made sure all active apps are turned off and running apps as well turned off. I will turn my phone off at least once a week and fully charge it overnight. I notice after doing this the battery life Is always worse.
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Don't believe your battery bar...
Check the number of volts your battery has... its a much better indicator
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess it makes sense. it just seems to run down a lot faster everytime I turn the phone off and back on the next day. It must just be me
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Try the unplug-then-replug routine one morning to restart the charging process. See if it is better that day. If it is, you are probably running into the same problem I talked about in my last paragraph.
I'm trying to charge my battery to 100% and it's been sitting at 99% for a good while now. My battery life has been pretty abysmal and I've been trying to figure out if it's the apps I have installed or if it's the actual batter on the phone.
Does anyone know a lot about batteries? Is this normal? Does this mean I should seek a replacement?
So, 99% charge on the 5v/1a charger for a good 20 minutes now, still at 99%.
Phone will die in 6-8 hours.
Sometimes phone shuts off when still reading 4% battery left.
What's the prognosis docs?
Charging from 99% to 100% usually takes a while but even more so on HTC phones. Just give it a while until it shows 100% and the led light turns green.
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Charging from 99% to 100% usually takes a while but even more so on HTC phones. Just give it a while until it shows 100% and the led light turns green.
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It's been an hour lol.
Unplug it then plug it back in, it will jump to 100%.
it does that really slow because it's at a trickle charge above like 95%. so it's not pulling at 1amp anymore, and it slowly hits 100. it's a safety measure so that it doesn't stay at 100% all the time
Yeah, that happens on all phones. It shouldn't take an hour, though. Try what orangechoochoo said, just unplug it and plug it back in.
I know on my ipod and on my friends' iphones, if you unplug it while it's in the 99%-~100% zone it'll drop down to like 90% since it's not "really" charged. I think sometimes the battery % while charging is just a little optimistic.
it might not actually be sitting at 99, unless you've actually just been watching the percentage for the full hour. i've seen on other phones that it will go back and forth bw 99 and 100 once it hits a certain point
Hi All,
Quick question to see if anyone else has noticed this at all?
Last night my watch was on 57% after a day of usage which I thought to myself, Great if i turn my watch off over night it will last me the next day aswell,
But upon turning my watch on this morning, my battery had dropped from 57% down to 23%,
Has anyone else noticed or had this happen?
Thanks!
Why don't you just let it charge over night? You will need the charger to turn it back on anyways, it's not like this would be practical or anything..
But no, I haven't tried turning it off over night. My watch also goes down to about 50% after 1 day and then I just let it charge together with my phone at night. I love the charger, just put in on there, no need for plugging anything in, way better than all the other methods from Sony and Samsung etc
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Why don't you just let it charge over night? You will need the charger to turn it back on anyways, it's not like this would be practical or anything..
But no, I haven't tried turning it off over night. My watch also goes down to about 50% after 1 day and then I just let it charge together with my phone at night. I love the charger, just put in on there, no need for plugging anything in, way better than all the other methods from Sony and Samsung etc
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The reason i dont want to leave it on charge overnight is that it could potentially damage the battery, they havent been out long enough to know the long term affect on the battery life, and as it is a waterproof construction i dont see it being cheap getting a replacement battery, i never leave any of my stuff on charge overnight as to not damage the batteries of them.
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The reason i dont want to leave it on charge overnight is that it could potentially damage the battery
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modern lithium-ion batteries cannot be overcharged. you're misinformed.. that only happend with old battery technology
the only way to damage the battery is by overheating and for that to happen you would need to charge it more than just a night, more like 24 hours at least. and even that doesn't happen anymore because smartphones stop charging when at 100% and so does the watch.
But when the battery gets to 100% the charger may stop charging but when the battery drops to 99% the charger will kick in again,
Previous phone batteries - S4 and S3 were ruined doing that
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But when the battery gets to 100% the charger may stop charging but when the battery drops to 99% the charger will kick in again,
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so? that still doesn't ruin the battery. it's normal that batteries wear off after some time, but we're speaking like after a year or so. nothing you can do about that. not charging doesn't do the battery any good either. it's best to always charge a little and not from <10% to 100%
So after a year you're happy to pay another £170 because the battery will only last less than a day, I'd rather take care of it and not kill it, like my z2 only charging when dead and not leaving it on charge overnight I get 3-4 days battery on it currently yes it's only been out for a while but I don't see anyone else getting that usage from it
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So after a year you're happy to pay another £170 because the battery will only last less than a day, I'd rather take care of it and not kill it, like my z2 only charging when dead and not leaving it on charge overnight I get 3-4 days battery on it currently yes it's only been out for a while but I don't see anyone else getting that usage from it
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Do as you think, but charging the phone or watch overnight will not ruin your battery, it just naturally wears off after time. And im sure that when there will be replacement batteries it will be nowhere near 170 quid.
Anyway I am more the kind of guy that charges the phone couple of times a day, so I usually never get below 20% battery. As for the watch, I am going to charge that once every day. Right now it holds up for more than a day so after some time it will be probably down to a day, but as long it doesn't go below 15 hours, yes im fine with that.
But that's the point I'm trying to get across, a battery is stated to last a specific time so why should they not last that time without proper care, not over charging etc..
But maybe that's just my opinion.
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To answer your original question, mine doesn't lose any battery when switched off. I turned it off overnight with a full battery and when I switched it on this morning, it still had a full battery.
All I can think is that you accidentally hit 'reboot' instead of 'shutdown'. I'm sure you are positive you didn't, but it is the only logical explanation. Try again and make sure
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To answer your original question, mine doesn't lose any battery when switched off. I turned it off overnight with a full battery and when I switched it on this morning, it still had a full battery.
All I can think is that you accidentally hit 'reboot' instead of 'shutdown'. I'm sure you are positive you didn't, but it is the only logical explanation. Try again and make sure
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Yeah well last night when i charged it, it was 100% when i turned it off, and this morning it was on 99% when it turned on, so i will check the % tonight before i turn it off, and check it in the morning when i wake up, as of 4pm i am on 67% so it should only drop another 10-15% before i turn it off later.
Sometimes the cradle didn't pick up the watch correctly. You can place it in the cradle but it won't charge. Make sure the lighting bolt icon is on the watch