My S3 was working fine in my pocket, plenty of battery, went to use it and it was completely dead. I've removed battery, SIM, and SD and left for a while, given a good charge, but still no sign of life whatsoever. Tried another battery also.
I've even removed the back (10 screws inside battery cover) and blown with some compressed air, but no different.
Any ideas? It is under 12 months old so Orange UK will take it for repair, but I believe the first thing they do is wipe all data. I've got a lot of app data (non Google sync) that I'd rather not lose.
Any suggestions (before I send it off)?
you said you gave it a good charge - so does it react to charging? can you access download mode? have you tried a different battery? what ROM did you have before this happened?
Could be sds, in which case data is gone. By the way, removing screws invalidates warranty so if they notice, you may cone unstuck
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you said you gave it a good charge - so does it react to charging? can you access download mode? have you tried a different battery? what ROM did you have before this happened?
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Doesn't react to charging at all. Totally lifeless, so no Download mode possible. I tried a mate's battery from his S3, no good. I was running cyanogen, from about 6 months ago, I forget which version.
I appreciate that both the ROM and screw removal would invalidate the warranty, but I guess they won't know about the ROM if either they can't boot it, or do a full wipe when they get the phone - I'm guessing they use a very high intensity magnetic field or something? And I've been pretty careful with the screws!
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Doesn't react to charging at all. Totally lifeless, so no Download mode possible. I tried a mate's battery from his S3, no good. I was running cyanogen, from about 6 months ago, I forget which version.
I appreciate that both the ROM and screw removal would invalidate the warranty, but I guess they won't know about the ROM if either they can't boot it, or do a full wipe when they get the phone - I'm guessing they use a very high intensity magnetic field or something? And I've been pretty careful with the screws!
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No they can't tell about the ROM. They'll be replacing the internal memory completely and throwing yours away. There's nothing retrievable on it. No come backs.
that's what you get for running a 6 month old ROM
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that's what you get for running a 6 month old ROM
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The reason was that a certain app (important for me) wasn't updated (due to legal action) to run on the newer Android version (JB).
Thanks for the help anyway Actually, do you think the ROM is likely to be the cause?
it is definitely the cause. the kernel didn't have the SDS fix, check the General section
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The reason was that a certain app (important for me) wasn't updated (due to legal action) to run on the newer Android version (JB).
Thanks for the help anyway Actually, do you think the ROM is likely to be the cause?
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A eMMC chip type:VTU00M with firmware-rev:0xf1 get corrupt with older 4.0 and 4.1.1 kernels, and instead freezes with early 4.1.2 JB kernels. (if i remember correctly)
rootsu has made an sds (sudden death syndrome) thread if ju want to know more.
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Actually, it was the camera at fault.
Fixed under warranty by EE/Orange, with no questions about my having opened the back up or the Custom ROM, probably as they would have been unable to easily tell due to it being totally dead
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Actually, it was the camera at fault.
Fixed under warranty by EE/Orange
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I'm sorry but I think they're pulling your leg. The symptoms match sds completely.
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I'm sorry but I think they're pulling your leg. The symptoms match sds completely.
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Maybe - but I can't imagine why, unless the tech was in a particularly generous mood that day?
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Seriously, 4 times in the last 24 hours. Nothing to do with battery power left..
Come to think of it, I remember my ex-step-dad complaining of the same issue.
Anyways, is this...a thing that's known? A fixable thing?
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Rooted.
Please don't recommend a reset or wipe. Only did that a month ago and putting everything back on took forever..;-;
Even more randomly it will restart.
Very frustrating.
I think your problem is ''Sleep Of Death''. Read this two Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616616 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670600 . SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
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Seriously, 4 times in the last 24 hours. Nothing to do with battery power left..
Come to think of it, I remember my ex-step-dad complaining of the same issue.
Anyways, is this...a thing that's known? A fixable thing?
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Please don't recommend a reset or wipe. Only did that a month ago and putting everything back on took forever..;-;
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Maybe it's overload or overheating, unstable ROM/kernel, maybe it's a virus. There can be many reasons.
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I think your problem is ''Sleep Of Death''. Read this two Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616616 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1670600 . SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
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I sure hope not. Looks like a complicated fix. But thanks.
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Maybe it's overload or overheating, unstable ROM/kernel, maybe it's a virus. There can be many reasons.
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The thing is, it's not doing anything at the time? Nothing that would overheat it. Also, it's very cold here right now, so weather wouldn't be overheating it either. The ROM/kernel have been fine until recently, neither seemed unstable. A virus...seems unlikely, but I'll install a virus scanner and have a looksie.
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Please don't recommend a reset or wipe. Only did that a month ago and putting everything back on took forever..;-;
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Why on earth would it take your forever?
Use use pro version of Titanium backup and you can restore all you backed up apps/app data in once go.
Re-stock device or re-install custom after wiping everything via recovery and if problem persists its likely a hardware issue, either main device or battery.
Didn't find a virus.
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Why on earth would it take your forever?
Use use pro version of Titanium backup and you can restore all you backed up apps/app data in once go.
Re-stock device or re-install custom after wiping everything via recovery and if problem persists its likely a hardware issue, either main device or battery.
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Well, I didn't have Titanium Backup Pro. So it took ages sifting through what apps I wanted, now that Google just puts them in there among a ****-ton of other apps I may have tried for a couple minutes before deleting.
I suppose.
Okay, wiped everything via recovery and flashed a new rom and all -chose [--VK--™] this time-'
Just about to leave for work and grabbed my phone. It had turned off. x: Now I'm worried.
At worst, you can use your warranty and exchange your phone for a new one.
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At worst, you can use your warranty and exchange your phone for a new one.
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Doubt it's still under warranty, and I've already done that once.
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Doubt it's still under warranty, and I've already done that once.
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warranty is without a limit
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warranty is without a limit
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If you say so. Really hoping it won't come to that though, don't wanna be without my phone for ages again.
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If the warranty deadline is not expired, you can try.
try removing your battery and replacing it firmly in place and snapping the cover on firmly into place.
I have had this issue since moving to the larger OEM Samsung battery kit occasionally and I feel it may be q seating issue with the battery, as this method solves it until it gets dropped or bumped about a few times.
Also Sleep of Death I believe requires a reset (7second power button hold) whereas my issue is resolved by turning the phone on normally (1sec power button press) hence how I found the battery issue..
just my experiences and $0.02..
It just randomly reset and took half the battery left with it. Bah. Seems to be the same issue as this topic. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103087&page=14
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Tonight was second time in about one week when my phone shut itself down at night. Because of that I slept in both times Both times it was connected to charger and battery was full, also there was a lot of updated apps (notifications in status bar). Right before first time this happened I recovered from soft brick. First after recovering phone didn't work well it use to freeze on higher load so I re-installed stock ROM one more time and everything seemed fine.
Now I wonder if it's software or hardware issues. Any ideas?
Cheers in advance.
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Tonight was second time in about one week when my phone shut itself down at night. Because of that I slept in both times Both times it was connected to charger and battery was full, also there was a lot of updated apps (notifications in status bar). Right before first time this happened I recovered from soft brick. First after recovering phone didn't work well it use to freeze on higher load so I re-installed stock ROM one more time and everything seemed fine.
Now I wonder if it's software or hardware issues. Any ideas?
Cheers in advance.
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Did you UV/UC your device? And which rom/kernel are you on?
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Did you UV/UC your device? And which rom/kernel are you on?
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No, I didn't UV/UC. I was on rooted stock kernel.
Made factory reset today and installed custom JB ROM today to see if it helps.
I think your problem is a software related one, try using the latest stock Rom, also it may be induced bya virus or a new program which you May have installed, if this didn't help them you should think of a hardware problem.
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I think your problem is a software related one, try using the latest stock Rom, also it may be induced bya virus or a new program which you May have installed, if this didn't help them you should think of a hardware problem.
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I was using 4.0.4 official ROM (NEE). And most of my apps are from Play store and only few from a reputable forum.
But as I said, I wiped everything today and installed a different ROM. If everything's OK for a week it will be clear that it was a software glitch.
Maybe it's tired?
****Non of this is of any importance. Just chill the f**k out and relax****
One week after installing custom ROM my SGSII has shutdown at night again. Like last times it was connected to a charger but this time there were no updated apps. So it's not ROM's fault because it happened with custom and stock ROMs.
Is it possible that soft brick damaged some part of phone's hardware (internal flash memory)? When recovering from brick I re-partitioned it.
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1) There's no such thing as a 'soft brick'. Your phone is either bricked (unfixable other than by authorised repairer/JTAG) or it ain't.
2) Highly unlikely anything firmware related would cause hardware issues like that.
It may well be a hardware issue given it's happened on different roms. If you're still on stock & haven't reset the flash counter, do that & send it in to Samsung/authorised repairer to be looked at assuming your warranty is still good. If it isn't, take it to a local mobile repair shop & have them take a look (if you've gone back to a custom rom, reset the flash counter & back to stock).
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There's no warranty, therefore I won't be taking it to service center just to hear it needs new motherboard etc. because it'll cost me almost same as to buy another SGSII.
At this moment I'm only interested if there's anything I can do by myself. If not it's time for a new phone I'm afraid. The phone is still perfectly usable but I don't want to risk sleeping in and being late for work and I don't want to buy an alarm clock.
Common sense dictates you try a different battery.
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Common sense dictates you try a different battery.
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How can it be caused by battery when all times this happened phone was connected to a charger? All times after I turn it on I find a full battery.
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Do a completely clean install of stock (format cache, data, system, & internal sd card in CWRecovery first, Odin flash after), do not restore any apps (or app data with the exception of contacts/calendar/call logs/sms) via Ti or whatever, clean reinstall a few apps at a time, test for a day or two. Install a few more apps, test for a day or two. And so on.
If it's still happening after you do that, "it's time for a new phone" in your words.
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Thing is that when the phone got bricked I had no backup of any kind and since internal storage was re-formated we can say that it was fully wiped. I installed stock ROM first. But phone was rebooting on higher load so I did factory reset and wiped dalwik and data. Reinstalled stock ROM again (even re-downloaded to make sure it's not corrupted). This time it wasn't rebooting. But after a couple of night shutdowns I decided to try a custom ROM. I did a full wipe (including internal storage) before installing it. Clearly it didn't help
BTW night shutdown happens about once in a week.
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How can it be caused by battery when all times this happened phone was connected to a charger? All times after I turn it on I find a full battery.
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I tried a different battery and Ive noticed when Ive connected it to the charger,a couple of times my phone has switched off as I was facing the screen wanting my sim pin.
This doesnt happen with my original battery.
So it must be the battery.
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I tried a different battery and Ive noticed when Ive connected it to the charger,a couple of times my phone has switched off as I was facing the screen wanting my sim pin.
This doesnt happen with my original battery.
So it must be the battery.
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But I'm using my original battery. Also like I mentioned earlier all this started after the brick. Therefore I don't think it's the battery.
P.S.Before SGSII I owned HTC Desire for couple of years. I flashed and re-flashed it again and again, never had a brick etc. But when I decide to flash a custom ROM on SGSII for the first time phone gets bricked and even after recovering from brick phone is still f*****-up. Don't get me wrong I love this phone, it's better in every way but it's not exactly "flash friendly". Forums are full of stories of bricked SGSII. That makes me thinking should I choose a Samsung device if I'll be forced to buy a new phone...
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How can it be caused by battery when all times this happened phone was connected to a charger? All times after I turn it on I find a full battery.
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Simple, Because you cant run your phone just via charger, it goes from charger to device via battery so if your battery is faulty you could have lost power to device.
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Thing is that when the phone got bricked
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You're devcie was never "bricked". If it was your devcie would simply not power on or if it did it wouldnt go into download or recovery mode via buttons or jig.
If you can do the above yor devcie is not bricked. There is no such thing as a "soft brick", that is just a label n00bs like to use as a label for when they cant boot to system. Liek when they get a boot loop etc.
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But I'm using my original battery. Also like I mentioned earlier all this started after the brick.
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No it didnt.
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P.S.Before SGSII I owned HTC Desire for couple of years. I flashed and re-flashed it again and again, never had a brick etc.
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And you haven't on SGS2 either.
kaiseris said:
But when I decide to flash a custom ROM on SGSII for the first time phone gets bricked
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No it doesnt.
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and even after recovering from brick phone is still f*****-up.
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No you didnt, you simply re-flashed a rom. When you're bricked this cannot be done (without hardware access/replace) hence the word "bricked"[/QUOTE]
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Don't get me wrong I love this phone, it's better in every way but it's not exactly "flash friendly".
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Wrong, its very flash friendly. Only thing you need to look out for is wiping data on leaked stock kernel.
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Forums are full of stories of bricked SGSII.
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1000% Untrue. They are full of stories from n00bs who "think" they have bricked their device, ie all the silly "soft-brick" topics.
My advice to you would be to check battery pins for bends or corrosion and also swap battery and see if you get different results.
Before any of this though you should try a kernel cleaning script, flash stock rom via ODIN and then flash Siyah kernel.
Jeez man! Why do you waste your an my time typing this long but pointless post?! To show how "l33t" you are? If so please stay away from this thread.
As for battery, if it is faulty why it's still fully charged? Also why does it act-up just once in a while? IMHO battery is quite a simple thing, either it charges or not. It looses it's capacity over time. Mine is about six months old and still lasts me about 36 hours.
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Jeez man! Why do you waste your an my time typing this long but pointless post?! To show how "l33t" you are? If so please stay away from this thread.
As for battery, if it is faulty why it's still fully charged? Also why does it act-up just once in a while? IMHO battery is quite a simple thing, either it charges or not. It looses it's capacity over time. Mine is about six months old and still lasts me about 36 hours.
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Because I was trying to help you [email protected] ungrateful moron! How on earth was it trying to sound "l33t" (By the way its "1337").
Your problem is that you create a thread about a problem you have with device and then dont even listen to what you get told with regards to advice from multiple people, ie check rom/kernel/battery. What the hell do you expect any of us to do give you some magic words you can say to solve your problem?
What I wrote was correcting your misconceptions and giving you on advice on how to resolve your issue, Did you even bother to read what I wrote at bottom??
Also you're been very narrow minded if you think that the only symptoms of a faulty battery is if it cant charge or hold charge. Symptoms can also include random drops of output which result in your phone losing power and rebooting or powering off which is exactly what is happening to you. Now I'm not saying this is your exact problem but the fact that you are ignoring this possibility shows how much of a fool you are been especially when been hostile towards people who are trying to "waste their time" helping you.
If you dont want our advice then I suggest you GTFO and find another site to post your problem on.
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n00bs
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n00bs
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[email protected] ungrateful moron
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a fool you are
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Wow, you're a real "keyboard cowboy". Do you tell same thing to people you don't know in real life? I bet you don't.
I already wrote this but I will repeat it one more time. I did full wipes, flashed a few different ROMs and kernels since this problem started. It didn't affect the problem in any way!
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Now I'm not saying this is your exact problem
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Reading your posts makes me think opposite. I will repeat myself shutdowns started right after recovering from "soft brick"/"NAND rw corruption" (which ever suits you better). Other reason I don't believe it's battery's fault is that I have never heard about:
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random drops of output
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in otherwise perfectly working battery.
Like everyone else I owned a bunch of cellphones, laptops, cordless drills, MP3 players and other battery-powered devices but never had such problem or heard about anyone having this exact problem. Would you care to elaborate about it?
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GTFO and find another site to post your problem on.
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I'm not going to do that only because there are a few "anal" people in this great community.
Ok, you're obviously an idiot and its pointless trying to help you. Good luck trying to find somebody who will help you now after showing how much of a **** you are to people trying to offer advice.
I'm off to play on my fully working i9100.
Bye.
Hi all,
So I just received an SGS3 from a colleague at work and it was completely dead. I can't even get into recovery or download modes. The incident happened when my friend had his alarm clock on, he stopped it, then went away and found the phone completely dead as it was already on charge. I tried charging the phone but it seems not responding to anything, and I see no lights whatsoever.
What could be the problem? I have another colleague at work that has an SGS3 as well, I'll replace batteries and see whether it's a battery problem or something else.
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Hi all,
So I just received an SGS3 from a colleague at work and it was completely dead. I can't even get into recovery or download modes. The incident happened when my friend had his alarm clock on, he stopped it, then went away and found the phone completely dead as it was already on charge. I tried charging the phone but it seems not responding to anything, and I see no lights whatsoever.
What could be the problem? I have another colleague at work that has an SGS3 as well, I'll replace batteries and see whether it's a battery problem or something else.
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remove battery and try again.
sam77744 said:
remove battery and try again.
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Did that already...will try with another battery in a bit
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XeroHertZ said:
Did that already...will try with another battery in a bit
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put phone on charging and press power buttan 1 min , may be its starts. I am not sure but u try it.
Just tried with another working S3 battery...still completely dead..will try ur suggestion
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Guess it's time to take it to the service center...have tried everything.
Thanks for everybody who helped
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Just tried with another working S3 battery...still completely dead..will try ur suggestion
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ok.aafter that reply me , whats hep?
I think your phones dead you must make j -tag
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sam77744 said:
ok.aafter that reply me , whats hep?
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check my last reply bro
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I think your phones dead you must make j -tag
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The thing is it was working just fine...it only happened after the alarm clock incident as I mentioned...strange :S Worse thing is that there's a lot of images and videos in the phone that hasn't been synced with dropbox, only some of them...i'm sure my friend will lose that
Sounds like your phone has fallen victim to S.D.S (sudden death syndrome). The eMMC firmware that shipped with the stock kernel seemed to cause uneven wear-leveling which meant the components failed far before their expected lifespan.
At this point, assuming you can't reach download mode, all you can do is send the phone to Samsung and get it repaired/replaced. Most Samsung repair centers seem to be aware of the issue.
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Sounds like your phone has fallen victim to S.D.S (sudden death syndrome). The eMMC firmware that shipped with the stock kernel seemed to cause uneven wear-leveling which meant the components failed far before their expected lifespan.
At this point, assuming you can't reach download mode, all you can do is send the phone to Samsung and get it repaired/replaced. Most Samsung repair centers seem to be aware of the issue.
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I thought it's the sudden death syndrome guess my friend is unlucky...he will take it to the service center today, his phone is still on warranty...should he expect a replacement? will they need to replace any hardware part or just a j-tag will do?
They'll replace the motherboard for free
XeroHertZ said:
I thought it's the sudden death syndrome guess my friend is unlucky...he will take it to the service center today, his phone is still on warranty...should he expect a replacement? will they need to replace any hardware part or just a j-tag will do?
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JTAG won't be able to revive the phone since this is a hardware failure rather than just a brick caused by bad flashing or a damaged bootloader. The entire motherboard of the phone will have to be replaced by the service center, which will be free.
Alright thanks for the Info guys...as long as it's still on warranty then my friend won't have to worry
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Alright thanks for the Info guys...as long as it's still on warranty then my friend won't have to worry
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Just as a side-note, is your friend aware that the latest 4.1.2 builds coming from Samsung include a modified eMMC firmware in the kernel which supposedly remedies this problem. I'm personally running the XXELLA build which includes the fix. He may want to check out flashing one of these builds to prevent it happening again, if the phone doesn't come back with the latest firmware already
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Just as a side-note, is your friend aware that the latest 4.1.2 builds coming from Samsung include a modified eMMC firmware in the kernel which supposedly remedies this problem. I'm personally running the XXELLA build which includes the fix. He may want to check out flashing one of these builds to prevent it happening again, if the phone doesn't come back with the latest firmware already
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Well I don't think that my friend is aware of that as he's not that experienced..I'm more experienced than he is though since I've been into Android since the first galaxy We reside in Dubai and our CSC code is XSG...not sure if our service centers have the fixed 4.1.2 builds yet for the Middle East version. Do the service centers have different builds than those in Sammobile?
Anyways I just hope he gets a replacement unit rather than having the motherboard changed.
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Well I don't think that my friend is aware of that as he's not that experienced..I'm more experienced than he is though since I've been into Android since the first galaxy We reside in Dubai and our CSC code is XSG...not sure if our service centers have the fixed 4.1.2 builds yet for the Middle East version. Do the service centers have different builds than those in Sammobile?
Anyways I just hope he gets a replacement unit rather than having the motherboard changed.
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I live in New Zealand and we've only just received 4.1.1 from our carrier, the updates are horrendously slow. I flashed the unbranded United Kingdom stock ROM instead as they tend to get the updates straight from Samsung very quickly. It works just fine and it's all official.
Guess i'll just flash it for him via odin if his phone didn't come with the modified emmc 4.1.2
Btw, I'm having trouble replying to posts via my phone and the xda app I keep getting Request function reply topic does not exist !!!!!!
Man that was quick....the phone has been repaired in 1 day...they said it might take 3 business days...motherboard has been replaced.
Now what should I do to prevent this emmc from happening again? ?
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I just checked my phone using "eMMC Brickbug Check" by "Vinagre" (available on Google Play Store) and it turns out that I have an insane chip.
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I know that Android 4.1.2 is supposed to fix this issue as it somehow prevents from phone to go into "Sudden Death" but still that doesn't change the fact that the chip in my phone is faulty. Plus people with Android 4.1.2 XXELLA still are experiencing brick bug!! There are tons of posts all over the internet to prove that. I have just 2 months of warranty left and sure my phone is working fine now, but there is no guarantee that it will continue to do so even after the warranty is over. What happens if my phone dies after it's out of warranty? I'll be screwed, right? What do you guys think I should do? Would Samsung Care acknowledge the result from an app & change my chip or offer me a replacement?
Please help me ASAP. I'll be very very grateful to you.
No, they won't fix it as there is nothing wrong - yet.
absolutely nothing you can do
:'(
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No, they won't fix it as there is nothing wrong - yet.
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absolutely nothing you can do
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Thank you for your prompt replies. I guess I'm just a sitting duck now. :'(
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Thank you
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saurabh_goyal93 said:
I just checked my phone using "eMMC Brickbug Check" by "Vinagre" (available on Google Play Store) and it turns out that I have an insane chip.
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I know that Android 4.1.2 is supposed to fix this issue as it somehow prevents from phone to go into "Sudden Death" but still that doesn't change the fact that the chip in my phone is faulty. Plus people with Android 4.1.2 XXELLA still are experiencing brick bug!! There are tons of posts all over the internet to prove that. I have just 2 months of warranty left and sure my phone is working fine now, but there is no guarantee that it will continue to do so even after the warranty is over. What happens if my phone dies after it's out of warranty? I'll be screwed, right? What do you guys think I should do? Would Samsung Care acknowledge the result from an app & change my chip or offer me a replacement?
Please help me ASAP. I'll be very very grateful to you.
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The fix for the SDS is not in the Firmware but inside the Kernel. So you could use the newest Firmware but if your Kernel is not SDS Fixed then you still can have the SDS easily. I`ve seen a lot of cases where people used a firmware that they thought is safe but if you ask them what kernel they used you often get a reply that they used some outdated kernel like Siyah 1.8.6 which has not the Samsung fix for the SD included.
I don`t know of any solid case where a Sudden Death occurred where people were using a fixed Kernel.
Also sometimes you have cases where people first experienced the Sudden Death Syndroms like a lot of freezing or sudden reboots and then they decide to come to XDA and afterwards they flash a fixed kernel in hope that this will fix the problem(s) but then it`s often already to late. If you already have the symptoms chances are good that your phone will die anyway.
However if you know a case where the user had no symptoms at all and were using a fixed Kernel then please post a link to it because such a case is of big importance.
firmware includes the kernel
Glebun said:
firmware includes the kernel
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Yes, but many people flash custom Kernels after they flash a Sammy Firmware.
Scarface1991 said:
Yes, but many people flash custom Kernels after they flash a Sammy Firmware.
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Well, it is true that many peoples are removing their car security and safety devices.
so what? There are two alternatives:
1. They know what they are doing and what, therefore they are considering the risk;
2. They are do not know what they are doing. In this case, bricking their phone is hard, but only way to learn.
The choice is yours, boys and girls.
I thing that you can buy warranty time but I am not completely sure about that.
first, that your phone has the faulty chip, does not imply that our phone is going certainly going to die, if that was true, there would be millions of dead devices around the world, and that is not the case, as many things of life, it is a matter of luck, if its going to happen it will, if not, it wont, many users reported the issue at 5 or 6 months of use, if you pass this time period, chances are at your favor, mine is 6 months old, at the 2nd month I became aware of the sudden death issue, and flashed a rom and kernel with the fix, now, I think m PHONE IS OUT OF TROUBLE, i HAVE 7 months left of warranty period, so, dont torture yourself, use your device, and think of the best
From all that I've read about SDS you can hopefully avoid it altogther by using the latest firmware, even with the old firmware it seemed to happen more often to those who charged their phones overnight or got them too hot - although some failures seemed to be totally random.
I've always charged my batteries in an external charger, have power saving mode on and point an A/C outlet at the phone if used in the car windscreen to navigate. As a result it is always cool to the touch, electronics hate high temps - even 10 degrees higher than 'normal' can halve the lifespan of standard components, the memory chips in these phones are far from standard.
If you are too scared of SDS you can hard brick your phone and then give the phone to the service center so they will replace the insane chip free of cost
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boomboomer said:
From all that I've read about SDS you can hopefully avoid it altogther by using the latest firmware, even with the old firmware it seemed to happen more often to those who charged their phones overnight or got them too hot - although some failures seemed to be totally random.
I've always charged my batteries in an external charger, have power saving mode on and point an A/C outlet at the phone if used in the car windscreen to navigate. As a result it is always cool to the touch, electronics hate high temps - even 10 degrees higher than 'normal' can halve the lifespan of standard components, the memory chips in these phones are far from standard.
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Lol, far from standard?
Anyways, thank you for your reply but that's just a workaround, not a fix. I'm planning to keep this phone for another 2 years and if the chip is faulty, there's a very high chance that it'll fail sometime in the near future and I can't afford to change the whole motherboard.
saurabh_goyal93 said:
Lol, far from standard?
Anyways, thank you for your reply but that's just a workaround, not a fix. I'm planning to keep this phone for another 2 years and if the chip is faulty, there's a very high chance that it'll fail sometime in the near future and I can't afford to change the whole motherboard.
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If you use a Kernel with the fix then the chance is not very high. In fact until this day I haven't seen a solid case where a S3 with the fix died all of a sudden. While before the fix devices were dying left and right.
nikhil18 said:
If you are too scared of SDS you can hard brick your phone and then give the phone to the service center so they will replace the insane chip free of cost
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no, that's a felony
Glebun said:
no, that's a felony
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I was always wondering, isn`t it also a kind of felony to reset the flashing counter via Triangle Away and then to play dumb if you get your phone hard bricked some time later?
if it was your fault and you claim it bricked by itself, then yeah, that's also insurance fraud, which is a felony
Yeah I thought so too,
haha I know so many cases here at XDA where people bricked their phones and many people just advised them to bring it to the service centre and to play dumb, so that they say that suddenly their phone wouldn't turn on.
Couldn't agree more with both of you. It's a felony, everyone is aware of that, but lots of people still do it, because at the end of the day, all they want is their phone back. Fully working.
I successfully rooted my phone and successfully installed the volume hack package and the battery fox for 4.0.4 (both I found how to do on this website) and for a good few months my phone was working fine on Android 4.0.4
Then one day I was replying to a text message the phone just switched itself off and wouldn't get past the boot screen where it comes up with the Samsung Galaxy S III logo. With no one offering me any help when I've posted about this problem on this site and various others and after searching google for days to find a fix as I am a Mac user (Heimdall) with no access to a PC (Odin) at all, I took it to a local phone shop, explained the problem to see if they'd be able to fix it. They had it for 2 weeks and when I went to collect they told me that the phone ended up having to be sent to Samsung and there was nothing they could do with it. (I figured that anyway as it was rooted). Now I have got the phone back, it's in a worse state than what it was when I took it into the shop. When I try to power on the phone, nothing happens at all, it's just a black screen. I assumed the battery might be flat so when I went to plug in the charger, the battery symbol shows but it's got a circle in the middle of it it as though it's loading but nothing else happens.
Does this mean my phone is completely dead for good with no fix at all?
If it's bin fodder I may as well sell it for parts and try to get a bit of money back out of it as I bought this SIM free and it cost me quite a bit back when it first came out.
I'd appreciate it if I didn't get a load of snotty remarks as though I'm the thickest person on earth! I am fairly new to all this and it's all I ever seem to experience from this website. Please only reply if you have a genuine answer to my problem.
Thank you.
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Are you able to get into recovery?
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acwalter said:
Are you able to get into recovery?
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Hi, no I'm not able to do anything with it.
s1mon87 said:
Hi, no I'm not able to do anything with it.
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Service centre next .
Your only help from here is charge battery and try usb jig to boot to download mode .
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Its SDS. Loads of threads about it. Needs Motherboard replacement from Samsung
rootSU said:
Its SDS. Loads of threads about it. Needs Motherboard replacement from Samsung
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Thank you for that, I'd never heard the term SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome) before. I didn't even know it existed! But anyway since you mentioned that, I did a search, found this link http://www.freesamsungrepairs.com and I called the number, they reckon they can fix it free of charge providing there's no physical or water damage (which there isn't) and all I have to pay is the postage fees! Sounds like there maybe some hope after all!
s1mon87 said:
Thank you for that, I'd never heard the term SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome) before. I didn't even know it existed! But anyway since you mentioned that, I did a search, found this link http://www.freesamsungrepairs.com and I called the number, they reckon they can fix it free of charge providing there's no physical or water damage (which there isn't) and all I have to pay is the postage fees! Sounds like there maybe some hope after all!
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Try your carrier / samsung first. It should be covered by warranty.
rootSU said:
Try your carrier / samsung first. It should be covered by warranty.
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Can people even return a rooted device with SDS?
Prominence19 said:
Can people even return a rooted device with SDS?
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They can't tell if it doesn't power up.