I have searched a lot but have not yet found this answered, sorry if I missed something. I hope I posted this in the correct forum.
What is S-off vs S-on? I am already rooted with an unlocked bootloader and I am just trying to figure out if I should mess with S-off. So what is it and what are the advantages/disadvantages.
Thank-you very much,
Kienan
Kienan said:
I have searched a lot but have not yet found this answered, sorry if I missed something. I hope I posted this in the correct forum.
What is S-off vs S-on? I am already rooted with an unlocked bootloader and I am just trying to figure out if I should mess with S-off. So what is it and what are the advantages/disadvantages.
Thank-you very much,
Kienan
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S on= security on
S off= security off
The only advantage I can find for s off for a regular user is radio flashing and kernel flashing through recovery
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jose51197 said:
S on= security on
S off= security off
The only advantage I can find for s off for a regular user is radio flashing and kernel flashing through recovery
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Thank-you, this makes a lot of sense now. I do plan on flashing roms and kernels, but I have yet to learn about radio flashing.
Thanks again.
Kienan said:
I have searched a lot but have not yet found this answered, sorry if I missed something. I hope I posted this in the correct forum.
What is S-off vs S-on? I am already rooted with an unlocked bootloader and I am just trying to figure out if I should mess with S-off. So what is it and what are the advantages/disadvantages.
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S-OFF explained - by a Developer
mdmower said:
S-OFF explained - by a Developer
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Thanks, this helps a lot!
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Hey I was wondering if there is any way I can S-off if I'm on the 1.5 Hboot. I stupidly accepted a download and now I can't flash a ROM =[
MattHorner said:
Hey I was wondering if there is any way I can S-off if I'm on the 1.5 Hboot. I stupidly accepted a download and now I can't flash a ROM =[
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SEARCH... SEARCH... SEARCH...
Post this in the Q/A Forums..
htcdev.com
go there and read.
Use the HTC unlock method in htcdev.Com it is the only way for you with 1.5 to root. Why did u take ota?
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No, you can't. You're screwed until ARX/Revolutionary work something out for you.
Learn where to post, you're not new, you have no excuse.
Lord help me I'm just not that bright. Bwahahahhahahhahahhahahahahahahahhaahhaahahahhaahhahaahahahahhaahahhahahahahhahahahahaahhahaahhahhahhaahahhaahhahaahahhahahhahahhahahhhahhhaahhahaahhhahahahaahahhahhahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bubbate said:
No its not stupid, **** all these ppl who have smart shyt to say. This Site is meant for you to find out stuff
#Team3VO
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This site also has rules and a search feature. Just sayin'
I just answered this same question in detail last night.
bubbate said:
No its not stupid, **** all these ppl who have smart shyt to say. This Site is meant for you to find out stuff
#Team3VO
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This site also has something called forum structure. Just FYI. When you tag a question [Q] and there's a section called Q&A, is it really freaking rocket science to know that your question probably goes there? Yeah, I'd say so.
you can install a rom using 1.5 hboot and the latest firmware/radios
after doing the HTCDEV unlock. i spent over 1 hour walking someone thru it on chat this evening.
there is a nice 'kanged' write up on how to in this forum.
Thread has been moved to proper sub-forum.
Lets try and keep in topic now
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faria
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1237696
BABABOOEY
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BABABOOEY
sent from my maniac EVO 3D. FREE DIRK.
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Feeling bored are we?
MattHorner said:
Hey I was wondering if there is any way I can S-off if I'm on the 1.5 Hboot. I stupidly accepted a download and now I can't flash a ROM =[
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Look, you can try to downgrade your radio's, pri's etc using the RUU below. It will revert you back 2.3.3 Radio 0.97.10. 0530. Then you can root your phone(you can use the revolutionary method). Let me know if this works. Download it and it will guide you through the process...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153800
I am quite frustrated as to why this wonderful ROM will not fully boot. I get to the lockscreen, and then it reboots. Anyone have this issue. I've searched the forums and tried a few things I had found there, and I even tried to flash version A, which also bootloops.
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I am quite frustrated as to why this wonderful ROM will not fully boot. I get to the lockscreen, and then it reboots. Anyone have this issue. I've searched the forums and tried a few things I had found there, and I even tried to flash version A, which also bootloops.
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What is your hboot version? Are you s-on or s-off?
I ask because GB ROMs won't boot on the new 1.58 hboot.
1.58
coal686 said:
What is your hboot version? Are you s-on or s-off?
I ask because GB ROMs won't boot on the new 1.58 hboot.
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Yup. So do I need to do the downgrade fiasco, then?
S-Off too
thugzlyphe said:
Yup. So do I need to do the downgrade fiasco, then?
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Yes, but if you're s-off, it's easy. Just flash it in bootloader. If you're s-on, I think you have to get s-off first.
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coal686 said:
Yes, but if you're s-off, it's easy. Just flash it in bootloader. If you're s-on, I think you have to get s-off first.
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Boy...I am on vacation and all my SDK stuff is on my desktop at home. This is a big headache installing all these platform tools. But I don't think I will survive without my phone....so it might be an all nighter. lol
Thanks for your help btw. Much appreciated!
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Boy...I am on vacation and all my SDK stuff is on my desktop at home. This is a big headache installing all these platform tools. But I don't think I will survive without my phone....so it might be an all nighter. lol
Thanks for your help btw. Much appreciated!
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Good luck and your welcome (hit Thanks )
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I know, I know there is probably a thread about this already but, i really need help please!! I am trying to s-off and am wondering if i need to relock first? I am s-on running viper rez rom. What steps do i take please. couldnt find a straight answer after 4 hours of reading posts everywhere!!!
civydcex said:
I know, I know there is probably a thread about this already but, i really need help please!! I am trying to s-off and am wondering if i need to relock first? I am s-on running viper rez rom. What steps do i take please. couldnt find a straight answer after 4 hours of reading posts everywhere!!!
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Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696394 it is pretty straight forward.
civydcex said:
I know, I know there is probably a thread about this already but, i really need help please!! I am trying to s-off and am wondering if i need to relock first? I am s-on running viper rez rom. What steps do i take please. couldnt find a straight answer after 4 hours of reading posts everywhere!!!
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If you need someone to walk you thru get me on gtalk I'd be more than happy to help. [email protected]
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Unlock bootloader then flash this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2141129
Then use facepalm S-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Follow the steps correctly and you will be able to get S-off. I tried it and it worked for me on two devices
Credit goes to JoelZ9614 and beaups for their individual methods
U can't downgrade from the ota unless u r rooted with a recovery already
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kaliblazin707 said:
U can't downgrade from the ota unless u r rooted with a recovery already
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Most people were rooted prior to the OTA but you can root the OTA. I know because I had to do it myself.
wait a minute... we can root with the 2.0 OTA????? What am I missing here?
androidbuff123 said:
wait a minute... we can root with the 2.0 OTA????? What am I missing here?
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I did this which is a pretty basic method and it worked for me
http://www.droidkube.com/how-to-root-the-htc-droid-dna-and-install-clockworkmod-recovery-on-it/
xraytid said:
I did this which is a pretty basic method and it worked for me
http://www.droidkube.com/how-to-root-the-htc-droid-dna-and-install-clockworkmod-recovery-on-it/
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You must have had an unlocked bootloader or something because this method does not work for people who took the OTA and weren't unlocked beforehand...
The thread name is kind if misleading. Most people on OTA have locked bootloaders and we can't unlock or root or s-off.
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This thread is horribly misleading. If you recieved the phone on the ota or you updated your phone before you rooted it you are currently UNABLE to root your phone.
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To the OP, it seems it would be wise to update the first post to address very valid member concerns. Would you take care of it please?
We definitely appreciate the discovery and willingness to share with the community, but we do want to prevent from the potential of causing problems to people's devices.
Thank you,
mf2112
XDA Moderator
You would have had to unlocked your bootloader before you followed the guide you posted.
And I just realized that on top of this being misleading, it is pointless. You don't have to be on a pre ota rom to get s off. If you are unlocked then you can s off on the ota.
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And I just realized that on top of this being misleading, it is pointless. You don't have to be on a pre ota rom to get s off. If you are unlocked then you can s off on the ota.
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this should go in the DEV section lololololololololol
I'm sorry if this is misleading to some but as I stated in the OP I tried this one two devices (only one had an unlocked bootloader prior to attempting this) and a few other people that wanted to get S-off after receiving the OTA and it worked for them so any mis-information is unintentional
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I'm sorry if this is misleading to some but as I stated in the OP I tried this on two devices (only one had an unlocked bootloader prior to attempting ths) and a few other people that wanted to get S-off after receiving the OTA and it worked for them so any mis-information is unintentional
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So you're claiming this works on a 2.xx droid DNA that had never been rooted or unlocked prior to this method?
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So you're claiming this works on a 2.xx droid DNA that had never been rooted or unlocked prior to this method?
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My DNA was not rooted or had a prior unlocked bootloader at the time I took the OTA and I managed to unlock my bootloader, root then S-off and load Newt's Sense 5 ROM. I wouldn't have posted this thread if I didn't do it myself and that's why I sited the steps I used. The people that messaged me about it also tried it and it apparently worked for them prior to me making this thread.
I don't know what else to say unless you guys want screenshots..
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My DNA was not rooted or had a prior unlocked bootloader at the time I took the OTA and I managed to unlock my bootloader, root then S-off and load Newt's Sense 5 ROM. I wouldn't have posted this thread if I didn't do it myself and that's why I sited the steps I used. The people that messaged me about it also tried it and it apparently worked for them prior to me making this thread.
I don't know what else to say unless you guys want screenshots..
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We don't mean to be Debbie Downers, but there are just a few very knowledgeable devs working on getting the bootloader unlocked and have so far not managed to do that. What you claim to have done is what pretty much everybody is talking about on this forum and there's a bounty for it too.If you have anything showing you went from the latest 2.xx ota to fully unlocked we'd all give you hero status.
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We don't mean to be Debbie Downers, but there are just a few very knowledgeable devs working on getting the bootloader unlocked and have so far not managed to do that. What you claim to have done is what pretty much everybody is talking about on this forum and there's a bounty for it too.If you have anything showing you went from the latest 2.xx ota to fully unlocked we'd all give you hero status.
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I'm not looking for hero status or any fanfare. I know what I did and wanted to help so I posted the steps that I followed to get unlocked because I didn't do anything special. I posted the method and the only way to prove it would be to get another DNA and do it again because posting a screenshot of my device now means nothing
If the steps I took helped others then I'm happy and if it doesn't then I'm sorry for unintentionally misleading some.
Before bashing or accusing me of trying to mislead I would suggest trying the steps I took because I have no reason to lie and didn't claim to do some masterful wizardry of hacking either
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My DNA was not rooted or had a prior unlocked bootloader at the time I took the OTA and I managed to unlock my bootloader, root then S-off and load Newt's Sense 5 ROM. I wouldn't have posted this thread if I didn't do it myself and that's why I sited the steps I used. The people that messaged me about it also tried it and it apparently worked for them prior to me making this thread.
I don't know what else to say unless you guys want screenshots..
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You are wrong about something here. You CANNOT unlock the bootloader of a phone that is on the ota and hasn't previously been unlocked. That is why there is a 500 dollar bounty for the person who finds the exploit that allows us to do that.
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You are wrong about something here. You CANNOT unlock the bootloader of a phone that is on the ota and hasn't previously been unlocked. That is why there is a 500 dollar bounty for the person who finds the exploit that allows us to do that.
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Ok. Like I said before I know what I did and the steps I took. All I can say is try it. Other than that there's no point in me going in circles.
Try the steps I took and hopefully it works
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Ok. Like I said before I know what I did and the steps I took. All I can say is try it. Other than that there's no point in me going in circles.
Try the steps I took and hopefully it works
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The step you listed is to unlock the bootloader. You provided no other info besides that. It is simply not possible to do that if you are on 2.04. If you did somehow manage to do that then explain it and go collect your 500 bucks.
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I thought I would start a thread to help people that sent there DNA out to get JTAG s-off and now are trying to flash a custom Rom.
If anybody want to put there experience on here so people know the steps and the correct way to handle the bootloader.
I think it would be helpful. I am still waiting for mine to come back from mobiletechvideos so it would be helpful for me to.
Thanks to anyone who contributes.
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
trickster2369 said:
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
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+1
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trickster2369 said:
I'm pretty sure this should be in general. Just sayin.
From my S-Off DNA
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Yeah you're right. It's a good thread though. I'm thinking Q&A section would probably be good because of the other stuff in the same section.
It will get moved.
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Yeah you're right. It's a good thread though. I'm thinking Q&A section would probably be good because of the other stuff in the same section.
It will get moved.
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I agree, good topic for sure.
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Forum move
Thanks for moving my forum, whoever did. I'm kinda new to the posting in the forums thing...
I should have my DNA back from MobileTech on Thursday. I cant wait but i've seen so many posts of people that got it back and werent sure what to do. Anyways I hope this forum helps out some people.
You've got to unlock and root it, then all the fun begins.
And please take the time to read through these forums, all your questions have been asked and answered. We don't like spoon-feeding people here when the answer is readily available.
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You've got to unlock and root it, then all the fun begins.
And please take the time to read through these forums, all your questions have been asked and answered. We don't like spoon-feeding people here when the answer is readily available.
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The choo choo eats with his hands only!
Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you...
iOSh8er said:
The choo choo eats with his hands only!
Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you...
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How did you know I'm part Philippino? Utensils are banned in that country.
s-off dna
The purpose of the forum is to get the right info I've seen conflicting points on whether or not you still need to unlock the bootloader after s-off.
My understanding was that once your s-off you don't need to unlock because it bypasses the bootloader security checks. I am probably wring but I was hoping to get a clarified answer with this forum what do think choochoo
smokeinluke said:
The purpose of the forum is to get the right info I've seen conflicting points on whether or not you still need to unlock the bootloader after s-off.
My understanding was that once your s-off you don't need to unlock because it bypasses the bootloader security checks. I am probably wring but I was hoping to get a clarified answer with this forum what do think choochoo
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You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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LakerStar25 said:
You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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Thank you for the clarification. That's what I thought but there are people are posting that u need to downgrade via ruu and then use the beups exploit to supercid and then htcdev unlock and I was calling bullswack on that. Lol thanks again
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You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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The eng hboot has more functions available so there is a better chance of messing up the phone. Most people stick with the stock hboot since that's good enough for most.
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The eng hboot has more functions available so there is a better chance of messing up the phone. Most people stick with the stock hboot since that's good enough for most.
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I agree with that only if your not familiar with using the ENG Hboot, if you are then it's the better choice.
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I agree with that only if your not familiar with using the ENG Hboot, if you are then it's the better choice.
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Unless you actually run any of the additional commands included in ENG hboot you will be ok. Much ado about nothing.
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Unless you actually run any of the additional commands included in ENG hboot you will be ok. Much ado about nothing.
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The biggest issue with eng hboot is if you try to s on your phone with the eng hboot installed you will bard brick your device.
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Bigandrewgold said:
The biggest issue with eng hboot is if you try to s on your phone with the eng hboot installed you will bard brick your device.
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Why would you try to so your device after you have s-offed it
Where do I find the non-eng hboot? I'm paranoid that if I ever need to s-on my phone I'll further I have eng h-boot and brick it so I kind of want to go back.
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LakerStar25 said:
You shouldn't have to all you really need to do is flash the ENG Hboot and flash a recovery and then flash a Rom most have root already and your good to go. If you wanna use the stock hboot and only want su permission then you do need to unlock hboot it to be able to flash a recovery and superuser or supersu.
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Just got my phone back from the JTAG service and this was the exact procedure. Flashed the ENG boot and then flashed recovery. Bootloader still says 'LOCKED' but allowed me to flash.
I've JTAGG'd 18 DNA devices so far on the OTA update (I do this on the downlow due to specific "developer" who can't understand how to get all phones to take the RIFF JTAG flash software.
Flash ENG Hboot if you want the options available to it, though not mandatory. Install a root program (SuperSU is my recommendation), then flash a recovery.
Immediately backup your current setup, then go for any ROM you see fit. Profit.