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So this is one of the very first results that comes up when you search verizon galaxy note 2 on google.
I am considering getting the note 2 on verizon soon and I was wondering how the experience differs from the other carriers.. I heard the multi window supports fewer apps on verizon, and MANY other important features are said to be missing in the comments.
Does the development community have any solutions or ROMs that puts VZW on equal footing with the other carriers? The coverage and speed are obviously better on vzw, but just trying to be thorough and it's hard to tell without having the phone in hand.
Yes. With root and unlock it's on pretty much equal footing with everyone on software. Equal with Sprint on hardware as there's no wireless charging - unless you cut holes for the contacts in the plastic backing on top of the mobo.
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So this is one of the very first results that comes up when you search verizon galaxy note 2 on google.
I am considering getting the note 2 on verizon soon and I was wondering how the experience differs from the other carriers.. I heard the multi window supports fewer apps on verizon, and MANY other important features are said to be missing in the comments.
Does the development community have any solutions or ROMs that puts VZW on equal footing with the other carriers? The coverage and speed are obviously better on vzw, but just trying to be thorough and it's hard to tell without having the phone in hand.
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Welp, that's Verizon for ya. And I like how the thread was locked down. Smh Verizon.
Anyways, if you are planning on rooting your Note, there's a mod to have any app added to the Multi Window feature.
Here's a solid solution: Flash CleanROM 3.5, which is based on the International Android 4.1.2 base, which has a ton of features added that weren't originally on any Android 4.1.1 base from any carrier. On top of that, you get the Multi Window feature mod.
This is why we have a development community - so evil carriers like this don't completely shut us down and treat us like peasants.
I'd say the developers here have been GREAT! I haven't dabbled in other note 2 forums or the like but I'm using Clean Rom VZW 1.0 and just love it.
I don't see anything that i would want missing.
DroidOnRoids said:
Welp, that's Verizon for ya. And I like how the thread was locked down. Smh Verizon.
Anyways, if you are planning on rooting your Note, there's a mod to have any app added to the Multi Window feature.
Here's a solid solution: Flash CleanROM 3.5, which is based on the International Android 4.1.2 base, which has a ton of features added that weren't originally on any Android 4.1.1 base from any carrier. On top of that, you get the Multi Window feature mod.
This is why we have a development community - so evil carriers like this don't completely shut us down and treat us like peasants.
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Truth. Who knows how long it'll be before Verizon gets off their asses and sends out the 4.1.2 update to us.
Hell, I will bet money that things they took out of our phones that should have been stock, will be touted as being new features provided to us the peasants all thanks to Verizon Wireless. Ha... ha... ha..... Verizon you make me sad.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Truth. Who knows how long it'll be before Verizon gets off their asses and sends out the 4.1.2 update to us.
Hell, I will bet money that things they took out of our phones that should have been stock, will be touted as being new features provided to us the peasants all thanks to Verizon Wireless. Ha... ha... ha..... Verizon you make me sad.
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Wanna know why I haven't bothered with 4.1.2?
Because the differences between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are stupidly minor.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 deep down brings nothing to the table for us. It might for touchwiz, but the actual base Android OS sees little improvement overall. As for Touchwiz, we already have some of the updates in 4.1.1 on our variant.
http://www.androidcentral.com/inter...-get-android-412-update-new-touchwiz-features
From the article:
The biggest changes seem to be focused around the top of the screen. The notification shade is now customizable, so if you're not a fan of extraneous toggles and brightness dials, you can turn them off. If you keep your notification shade quick-controls, you'll notice new additions such as the ability to toggle the multi-window feature on and off. The notification bar itself has also changed slightly, going from grey back to black. And the lock screen's been changed up a little, with a new, optional ink effect in the on-screen "pool" when unlocking the device.
Web browser performance improvements are also noted, although we've always found Samsung's stock browser to be pretty fast. And finally, there's also a new Group Cast app for sharing music and photos with other Samsung device owners.
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As you can see, we already have most of that (I highlighted it).
Back to 4.1.2:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...4-1-2-at-the-low-level-developer-commit-logs/
The only reason 4.1.2 was released is because it contained a mandatory software update for new Nexus 7 hardware revisions (dealing with power management hardware) and the new N7's releasing wouldn't run on 4.1.1. Otherwise, Google could have easily just waited until 4.2 with the changes.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...id-4-1-2-update-being-released-to-aosp-today/
nvertigo said:
So this is one of the very first results that comes up when you search verizon galaxy note 2 on google.
I am considering getting the note 2 on verizon soon and I was wondering how the experience differs from the other carriers.. I heard the multi window supports fewer apps on verizon, and MANY other important features are said to be missing in the comments.
Does the development community have any solutions or ROMs that puts VZW on equal footing with the other carriers? The coverage and speed are obviously better on vzw, but just trying to be thorough and it's hard to tell without having the phone in hand.
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I wouldn't say MANY. You have to look at other US Note 2 variants too. Tmobile and ATT didn't even ship with mulitwindow and are just now getting it. Welcome to the world of US carrier control.
Another placebo effect with 4.1.2.
As for the note 2 on verizon, once rooted/unlocked, its great.
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lostnuke said:
Another placebo effect with 4.1.2.
As for the note 2 on verizon, once rooted/unlocked, its great.
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Working with AOSP for a year, you get a really good feeling for just how much placebo is out there, when you get to see the nitty gritty in actual changes.
I miss my gnex. I don't miss its poor signal and battery life though.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 is crazy minor and has no noticeable effect to most people.
4.2 to 4.2.1 is another one, and pointless if you are CDMA and already fixed the contacts bug yourself.
Yet, on both of those updates, people saw miraculous changes in performance and stability
adrynalyne said:
Wanna know why I haven't bothered with 4.1.2?
Because the differences between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are stupidly minor.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 deep down brings nothing to the table for us. It might for touchwiz, but the actual base Android OS sees little improvement overall .
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...4-1-2-at-the-low-level-developer-commit-logs/
The only reason 4.1.2 was released is because it contained a mandatory software update for new Nexus 7 hardware revisions (dealing with power management hardware) and the new N7's releasing wouldn't run on 4.1.1. Otherwise, Google could have easily just waited until 4.2 with the changes.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...id-4-1-2-update-being-released-to-aosp-today/
I wouldn't say MANY. You have to look at other US Note 2 variants too. Tmobile and ATT didn't even ship with mulitwindow and are just now getting it. Welcome to the world of US carrier control.
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I guess you didn't read about how the update to AT&T/US Cellular Note 2s which included 4.1.2 also happened to fix the missing auto-correction in the Samsung keyboard, and 240p/480p flash videos display corruption.
Both are huge to me, and probably many other people (the keyboard one especially.)
Just because the update includes a bump in Android firmware doesn't mean that's what I'm looking forward to. So yes, it does matter and the sooner we get it the better. And my point about Verizon failing hard at updating devices (not just to change their build number) still stands.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
I guess you didn't read about how the update to AT&T/US Cellular Note 2s which included 4.1.2 also happened to fix the missing auto-correction in the Samsung keyboard, and 240p/480p flash videos display corruption.
Both are huge to me, and probably many other people (the keyboard one especially.)
Just because the update includes a bump in Android firmware doesn't mean that's what I'm looking forward to. So yes, it does matter and the sooner we get it the better. And my point about Verizon failing hard at updating devices (not just to change their build number) still stands.
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Flash isn't supported in Jellybean, so that is not something I am concerned with. As for the Samsung keyboard autocorrect, that again is pretty minor when you can sideload a superior-in-every-way keyboard.
Both of those are third party issues, and not worthy of an OS bump. That is my point. Its a minor (in every way) update. Yeah, Verizon sucks on updates, but people will whine about anything. You knew that going in, and hey, at least we saw multiwindow before ATT or Tmobile. Some of the touchwiz features we even saw before the International version.
Someone wake me when Samsung releases 4.2. Then I will be interested.
adrynalyne said:
Wanna know why I haven't bothered with 4.1.2?
Because the differences between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 are stupidly minor.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 deep down brings nothing to the table for us. It might for touchwiz, but the actual base Android OS sees little improvement overall. As for Touchwiz, we already have some of the updates in 4.1.1 on our variant.
http://www.androidcentral.com/inter...-get-android-412-update-new-touchwiz-features
From the article:
As you can see, we already have most of that (I highlighted it).
Back to 4.1.2:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...4-1-2-at-the-low-level-developer-commit-logs/
The only reason 4.1.2 was released is because it contained a mandatory software update for new Nexus 7 hardware revisions (dealing with power management hardware) and the new N7's releasing wouldn't run on 4.1.1. Otherwise, Google could have easily just waited until 4.2 with the changes.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...id-4-1-2-update-being-released-to-aosp-today/
I wouldn't say MANY. You have to look at other US Note 2 variants too. Tmobile and ATT didn't even ship with mulitwindow and are just now getting it. Welcome to the world of US carrier control.
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are you able to multi-window any app in 4.1.2 on the note 2? On the 10.1 we have to be running 4.1.2 for the multi-window because of something that changed. On 4.1.1 you have to edit each app.
I don't know a lot about coding, but that is big for me. I know on the note 2, most custom ROMs have this ability already, but the dev section of the 10.1 is pretty lean at the moment. Guess all the devs got nexus 7's and 10's.
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are you able to multi-window any app in 4.1.2 on the note 2? On the 10.1 we have to be running 4.1.2 for the multi-window because of something that changed. On 4.1.1 you have to edit each app.
I don't know a lot about coding, but that is big for me. I know on the note 2, most custom ROMs have this ability already, but the dev section of the 10.1 is pretty lean at the moment. Guess all the devs got nexus 7's and 10's.
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Not even the international version can multiwindow any app without outside modification.
adrynalyne said:
Flash isn't supported in Jellybean, so that is not something I am concerned with. As for the Samsung keyboard autocorrect, that again is pretty minor when you can sideload a superior-in-every-way keyboard.
Both of those are third party issues, and not worthy of an OS bump. That is my point. Its a minor (in every way) update. Yeah, Verizon sucks on updates, but people will whine about anything. You knew that going in, and hey, at least we saw multiwindow before ATT or Tmobile. Some of the touchwiz features we even saw before the International version.
Someone wake me when Samsung releases 4.2. Then I will be interested.
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Damn man so pessimistic lol
I love that flash still works. And the fact that Samsung actually took the time to fix it in their update means they care too.
As for the keyboard, I enjoy my extra row of numbers and see nothing wrong with it. The only reason I use the stock AOSP 4.2 keyboard right now is because it has auto-correct working. Otherwise, yeah I'd be using that Touchwiz goodness.
I'm not interested in the bump to 4.1.2. **** I wish they would just hotfix these two minor things without lumping it into a firmware update so I could enjoy these fixes without waiting months for Verizon. Unfortunately it is what it is and there's no reason for you to be defending them. I mean really, what point are you trying to make? We know 4.1.2 doesn't do much of anything for us, it's just a lot easier for us to say "we're waiting for 4.1.2 update" rather than "we're waiting for the update that fixes x y and z"
Cool story bro?
adrynalyne said:
Not even the international version can multiwindow any app without outside modification.
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I know, but someone developed an app that allows you to choose which apps you want to multi-window, save, reboot and done. Most apps work.
nrfitchett4 said:
I know, but someone developed an app that allows you to choose which apps you want to multi-window, save, reboot and done. Most apps work.
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Right. But that is not due to 4.1.2.
That same app is in the development forum here.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Damn man so pessimistic lol
I love that flash still works. And the fact that Samsung actually took the time to fix it in their update means they care too.
As for the keyboard, I enjoy my extra row of numbers and see nothing wrong with it. The only reason I use the stock AOSP 4.2 keyboard right now is because it has auto-correct working. Otherwise, yeah I'd be using that Touchwiz goodness.
I'm not interested in the bump to 4.1.2. **** I wish they would just hotfix these two minor things without lumping it into a firmware update so I could enjoy these fixes without waiting months for Verizon. Unfortunately it is what it is and there's no reason for you to be defending them. I mean really, what point are you trying to make? We know 4.1.2 doesn't do much of anything for us, it's just a lot easier for us to say "we're waiting for 4.1.2 update" rather than "we're waiting for the update that fixes x y and z"
Cool story bro?
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Not so much as pessimistic, but a hardened Verizon veteran that has seen too many wars with them.
That and a year on the Galaxy Nexus has shown me that newer isn't always better, 4.2 is a train wreck. By the time we see it, I hope the issues are worked out.
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Right. But that is not due to 4.1.2.
That same app is in the development forum here.
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That app only works on 4.1.2, not 4.0.4 or 4.1.1. You can't even install the app on those firmwares. He says either google or Samsung added something to make adding multiwindow easier for devs.
Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079807
Like I said, I don't understand the functions of it, just know that it works on 4.1.2 and nothing else.
adrynalyne said:
Not so much as pessimistic, but a hardened Verizon veteran that has seen too many wars with them.
That and a year on the Galaxy Nexus has shown me that newer isn't always better, 4.2 is a train wreck. By the time we see it, I hope the issues are worked out.
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Wait, you mean the 4.2 update to the Nexus phone that Verizon has yet to even put out? lawl gotta laugh. I've seen plenty of wars with Verizon myself but I see no reason to argue with users about why they should not look forward to fixes reaching their device, and the greedy ****s who slow that process down for them.
nrfitchett4 said:
That app only works on 4.1.2, not 4.0.4 or 4.1.1. You can't even install the app on those firmwares. He says either google or Samsung added something to make adding multiwindow easier for devs.
Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079807
Like I said, I don't understand the functions of it, just know that it works on 4.1.2 and nothing else.
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Are we talking about the same thing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045974
Right at the top, it shows our 4.1.1 release as the supported version.
This guy was able to get it done. Not sure why the other guy couldn't.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
Wait, you mean the 4.2 update to the Nexus phone that Verizon has yet to even put out? lawl gotta laugh. I've seen plenty of wars with Verizon myself but I see no reason to argue with users about why they should not look forward to fixes reaching their device, and the greedy ****s who slow that process down for them.
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Is there something wrong with 4.1.1. that you NEED an update once google updates? 4.2.1 is still broken. Why do you think sometimes there is a delay from when google pushes an update to when you see it. Its more then just Verizon. If verizon put out the 4.2.1. update now for the nexus people would be calling left and right saying that their phone is rebooting when updating apps from the market, especially when you modify the lock screen widgets. No way verizon would approve something still broken.
Any idea on when at&t LG optimus g will be getting the 4.1.2 update? Or even just a 4.1 jellybean. I'm guessing it'll be 4.1.2. Since sprints version just got. Also I'm guessing this is why this device. Doesn't have so many. Roms as of yet.. maybe everyone is just waiting for. A. Ota. Jellybean
noone knows when AT&T will roll out the jelly bean update. there are some jelly bean roms in development section you can try out.
Yeah I'm so eager to try it out but I just got my phone yesterday lol I'm.probably gonna wait alil bit til I root and rom my phone
I'm waiting for keylime pie.
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I'm waiting for Lemon Meringue
What I ment was I'm guessing the devs for this device are waiting for the jellybean update. That's why there's not to many roms,I'm sure once jellybean hits this device everyone will start making roms. There's really no point in making roms since its on 4.0.4 make a rom jellybean hits then devs have to rebase and remake there whole rom so might as well wait.. hopefully its true though chus this is a really nice device to not have any support/roms
marcviado said:
What I ment was I'm guessing the devs for this device are waiting for the jellybean update. That's why there's not to many roms,I'm sure once jellybean hits this device everyone will start making roms. There's really no point in making roms since its on 4.0.4 make a rom jellybean hits then devs have to rebase and remake there whole rom so might as well wait.. hopefully its true though chus this is a really nice device to not have any support/roms
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Have you looked st the developer section? There's ROMs already out that are based on native code. The part where you say to not have any support or ROMs is far from true.
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freebee269 said:
Have you looked st the developer section? There's ROMs already out that are based on native code. The part where you say to not have any support or ROMs is far from true.
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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Stop whining about AT&T and do something about it. As in, try the Original Android Development forum. We have AOSP, AOKP, and CM10.1 mostly functional. I agree some more ROMs would be neat, but really, what are you so desperate for?
That said, I have an honest question: Aside from maybe PA, what are we still missing out on ROM-wise? 30 reskins of AOKP?
Edit: Sorry about the tone, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's sick of seeing this thread over and over again. Official 4.1.2 will come when it comes, but why not run an 80% functional 4.2.2 today?
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Buy a phone for what it can do today, not for what it might do tomorrow.
nobody is whining about anything,I can't give my honest opinion? Is there really something wrong with me speaking out? You ppl are are bashing on this device just chus it s made by lg with lg's u.I. I bet all the money in the world that if this device had htcs name on it or samsung this phone would be filled with roms and support. But no that's not the case just chus its lg and so many ppl hating on lg it has lack of support that's all I'm saying with this awsome device it has potential to have way more support
bassitone said:
Stop whining about AT&T and do something about it. As in, try the Original Android Development forum. We have AOSP, AOSP, and CM10.1 mostly functional. I agree some more ROMs would be neat, but really, what are you so desperate for?
That said, I have an honest question: Aside from maybe PA, what are we still missing out on ROM-wise? 30 reskins of AOKP?
Edit: Sorry about the tone, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's sick of seeing this thread over and over again. Official 4.1.2 will come when it comes, but why not run an 80% functional 4.2.2 today?
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X2. There's a fully functioning 4.1.2 that SnowLeopardJB created, in addition to the ones mentioned above. The 4.2.3 roms don't have fully functioning GPS or camera, but they will have them shortly. Synergye's created an AOSP rom, that's using the latest Android developments, that will put this device ahead of the N4, once the quirks are worked out. Reskins aren't ROM's, so leaving that nuance out, what ROM are you looking for that you can't run today?
One addition: If you bought this phone thinking that AT&T was going to support it, you didn't do your research. Apple and Samsung are the only devices that receive any support from AT&T. That's because the former does it's own device support and the latter has enough market share that they can enforce their will on AT&T.
marcviado said:
Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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yes i have. i have jelly bean on my LGOG right now and it is fully functional. you're saying there's no support or roms out for this device when that just isnt true. there's even a 4.2.2 rom out that can do everything except camera and GPS. and those will be fixed soon. so what i'm saying is if you say there's little support then you just arent seeing everything in this forum that is out. if you refuse to flash jelly bean on your phone right now then that's the choice you make to stick with ICS. you have the chance to get jelly bean on your LGOG right now, you're just deciding not to.
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X2. There's a fully functioning 4.1.2 that SnowLeopardJB created, in addition to the ones mentioned above. The 4.2.3 roms don't have fully functioning GPS or camera, but they will have them shortly. Synergye's created an AOSP rom, that's using the latest Android developments, that will put this device ahead of the N4, once the quirks are worked out. Reskins aren't ROM's, so leaving that nuance out, what ROM are you looking for that you can't run today?
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That was the core of my question. AOSP, AOKP, CM10.1, and ParanoidAndroid are the only major ROMs I've heard of, and we have all but the last one. This is my first Android device, so I wasn't sure if there was really something big we were still missing.
As for why this phone if I knew AT&T sucked? I needed a new phone when there was still no idea when the Nexus 4 would come back in stock, so I got what was thought to be the next best thing. Honestly, with AOSP, this will be even better than the N4 once the GPS and camera are working.
And I can always convert a year down the road when everyone moves on.
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As you've said in your other thread, you are new to this phone. Which means others have had this phone for a while. Whatever question(s) you might have probably has been asked and answered or at least discussed before already.
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marcviado said:
nobody is whining about anything,I can't give my honest opinion? Is there really something wrong with me speaking out? You ppl are are bashing on this device just chus it s made by lg with lg's u.I. I bet all the money in the world that if this device had htcs name on it or samsung this phone would be filled with roms and support. But no that's not the case just chus its lg and so many ppl hating on lg it has lack of support that's all I'm saying with this awsome device it has potential to have way more support
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Correction: you are whining. Most of us love the device for A) basically being a suped up nexus B) first proper krait device with an sd card slot on att and C) for being really cheap on contract
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DeathmonkeyGTX said:
Correction: you are whining. Most of us love the device for A) basically being a suped up nexus B) first proper krait device with an sd card slot on att and C) for being really cheap on contract
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Correction:saying what I want to say in my opinion is not whining in the comandments that's called "freedom of speech" not whining. You have a problem with that go rewrite the comandment with whining instead of freedom of speech chus I'm just stating my own opinion
Commandments? Are you referring to the Bill of Rights? You do know that that same freedom of speech is also extended to anyone who wants to say you are whining, right?
Anyway, enough of the childish back and forth. As stated myriad times in this forum, as is usually the case, no one knows for sure when we'll get JB from AT&T. We have some great devs working on giving us fully functional CM, AOKP and CFX. Patience is a virtue, and we'll be getting some more love soon.
In the meantime, what's missing from the stock experience? You want Google Now? You can get it. Other than that it's just as smooth as JB.
marcviado said:
Correction:saying what I want to say in my opinion is not whining in the comandments that's called "freedom of speech" not whining. You have a problem with that go rewrite the comandment with whining instead of freedom of speech chus I'm just stating my own opinion
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But when you're opinion is wrong, then that would be considered either a) not knowledgable of the facts, or b) whining...as others have said, if you want 10 different versions of AOSP or CM10.1, or 15 versions of the current kernel, then this may not be the phone for you. I could say that my opinion is that the sky is red, but just because I've stated that's my opinion doesn't make it correct. The current version of JB on this device works 100% and is smooth as any phone I've ever used...ever (and I've had all the latest and greatest). You never answered someone's earlier question...what is it exactly that you want that is not being offered at this time?
You may be new to the phone, but you're not new to the forums. So I'm hoping within the last ~2.5 years you've noticed that there's a search feature. Considering this phone has been out for 5-6 months?, correct me if I'm wrong, this question was bound to be asked several times. If you don't want people complaining about your complaining, then it's advised to look through the forums. Feel free to be ungrateful for what the devs of this community has given us, but it's not like you've made anything. If you're in such a hurry, build a rom yourself.
I've noticed that CM12.1 is already out for many devices, do we have a developer with the Cyanogenmod team working with Hima?
Man I been wondering the same thing I'm so ready to flash lol
There's been zero mentioning of it so far. What with hima being so easy to make roms for, I wanted to see if any devs might let us know. I'm also curious if we'll see the phone get clocked back to 2ghz.
I would love to see this as well.
dmcgrath009 said:
I would love to see this as well.
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I will second (or third or fourth) this motion!
It's easy to compile for this device if any of you want to learn how and release a ROM for CM12.
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It's easy to compile for this device if any of you want to learn how and release a ROM for CM12.
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I would attempt it, but I have quite a few questions. I've done it for the M7 before with no problems (even had a thread with nightly builds etc.), but with the M9 being rather new, a lot of things are still up in the air:
No proprietary blobs (usually I would use TheMuppets, but they haven't updated blobs for M9...yet) I could probably pull these using another extract-files.sh from GitHub for the M9, but are all proprietary blobs the same between all M9 variations?
No MSM8994 AOSP kernel (that I can find)
Sprint hasn't released kernel source yet so there goes that option
Everything else is pretty self-explanatory though
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It's easy to compile for this device if any of you want to learn how and release a ROM for CM12.
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Yeah, def. But is it even supported for cm12 yet?
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Yeah, def. But is it even supported for cm12 yet?
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It even makes me wonder was the m9 that bad of a review? The s6 has cm12 and it launched on the same day as the m9 . we should have had something by now Idk *Shrugs*
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It even makes me wonder was the m9 that bad of a review? The s6 has cm12 and it launched on the same day as the m9 . we should have had something by now Idk *Shrugs*
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Has nothing to do with that. Has to do with Verizon being asshoIes...locking their devices down like 17th century princesses in chastity belts. That's why GSM already has source available, and we don't
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Has nothing to do with that. Has to do with Verizon being asshoIes...locking their devices down like 17th century princesses in chastity belts. That's why GSM already has source available, and we don't
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This is the sprint section... Nothing to do with Verizon...
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cstrife999 said:
This is the sprint section... Nothing to do with Verizon...
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Haha! How the...?? That's funny - no idea how I ended up in here. I'm out.
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Haha! How the...?? That's funny - no idea how I ended up in here. I'm out.
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make the switch! then come back!
on a side note and since we are off topic now ^^ lol jk bud
I have cm 12.1 on my m8 and it runs so beautifully... I even activated it for a day just to use it and see what I was missing.. (thats right.. missing from an older generation phone). I will say that cm12.1 was a real treat but the data issues that plagued mine (and pretty much all of us m9 owners in b41 areas) were still there on the m8. Let me be clear that b41 worked better but i still had data drops and data inconsistencies. Plus single strength was equal to the m9. I really do believe sprint has (at least started to) fix their data provisioning issues on their end for the m9 because my data service has been much better.
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make the switch! then come back!
on a side note and since we are off topic now ^^ lol jk bud
I have cm 12.1 on my m8 and it runs so beautifully... I even activated it for a day just to use it and see what I was missing.. (thats right.. missing from an older generation phone). I will say that cm12.1 was a real treat but the data issues that plagued mine (and pretty much all of us m9 owners in b41 areas) were still there on the m8. Let me be clear that b41 worked better but i still had data drops and data inconsistencies. Plus single strength was equal to the m9. I really do believe sprint has (at least started to) fix their data provisioning issues on their end for the m9 because my data service has been much better.
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Not surprising to hear...seeing how we're both running CDMA data. Booo...CM12 + CDMA = Very shaky data imo
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Not surprising to hear...seeing how we're both running CDMA data. Booo...CM12 + CDMA = Very shaky data imo
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Yea this was the first time I had/noticed the issue on cm12 with my m8. But i did run it stock for a few hours just after re-activating it so i could get the latest profile and prl, etc and I had unexplained data issues on stock too. It could just be my locations and the issues were not enough to drive you nuts really.
Now my N5 on sprint was bad a lot of times haha.. I loved the phone but it had its first triband growing pains. Still not as bad as users i know with the n5 on gsm network specifically tmo.. That wast truly bad.
Anyways, sorry about the OT. Back on topic now
It's coming!!!!!! https://github.com/Hima-Dev/android_device_htc_hima-common
Cm12 is in the works. About another month or so until it's really ready for daily use, though I can't say for sure what kind of luck we'll have with a sprint build.
A lot of the other devices are much easier to work on because htc released a ton of kernel sources for a lot of the international and Asian devices, but ZILCH for Sprint. That means we're unlikely to see a rom without sense for a while.
Well, that's not exactly true... With working RIL, we'll probably get a build not terribly long after everyone else, but let's just say my hopes aren't terribly high with htc seemingly being jerks about releasing a damn bit of useful code for the Sprint m9 (or any CDMA m9 for that matter)
I'd be happy with some decent radios, honestly. Struggling to get even a tiny bit of LTE signal in an area where my LG G2 was full LTE all the time after flashing a new radio makes this a little irritating...But that's a topic for another thread.
The first beta is here!!! Sprint version coming soon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-beta-1-t3150777
Most of it is broken, and apparently they have to make a version separate from the cdma versions. Hopefully we'll have the same as the M8 where one build supports all devices. Still, cannot wait for nightlies.
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Most of it is broken, and apparently they have to make a version separate from the cdma versions. Hopefully we'll have the same as the M8 where one build supports all devices. Still, cannot wait for nightlies.
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I remember cm saying that were going to make a unified build for all versions of the phone when the started dev on the m8.. it would be strange for them to change their mind so hopefully we do get the same thing as the m8. I would also love to get the same amount of attention as the m8 does those builds are perfect.
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/ don't see the Z3v in the short list.
Why not the Z3v too?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/ don't see the Z3v in the short list.
Why not the Z3v too?
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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Agreed this 509 firmware is stagefright patched and was built like 5 weeks ago and its 5.0.2 I think this is all were getting and since the Z4v is no longer coming out I belive 5.0.2 is the end of the road for the Z3v. This 509 firmware is good though.
I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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the thought did cross my mind that they would update 509 the rest of the way to 5.1.1 now that stagefright patch is out for z3 5.1.1 because it may be bad for business to have us on firmware we shouldn't have. I don't even care really Verizon made me sick with this shiit I guess I have to get a nexus phone next but I'm not doing that till they firgure out how to but an SD card in a phone. And thank you for your work and getting the ball rolling on Lollipop.
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the thought did cross my mind that they would update 509 the rest of the way to 5.1.1 now that stagefright patch is out for z3 5.1.1 because it may be bad for business to have us on firmware we shouldn't have. I don't even care really Verizon made me sick with this shiit I guess I have to get a nexus phone next but I'm not doing that till they firgure out how to but an SD card in a phone. And thank you for your work and getting the ball rolling on Lollipop.
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Thanks so much for the recognition. Somehow my leaked FTF of Lollipop was taken down, so I wasn't even sure if people still knew that I was the one that brought us that first Lollipop leak. I'm going to build us an amazing rom too.. I'm just waiting on Verizon to push their official build so that I won't be wasting my time building an outdated rom lol... U know like last time :/
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Thanks so much for the recognition. Somehow my leaked FTF of Lollipop was taken down, so I wasn't even sure if people still knew that I was the one that brought us that first Lollipop leak. I'm going to build us an amazing rom too.. I'm just waiting on Verizon to push their official build so that I won't be wasting my time building an outdated rom lol... U know like last time :/
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you know are phones should be pretty close to being able to be unlocked by Verizon I was looking on eBay and there are unlocked Z3V's I dont know if they kept the drm keys but anyway once they release the final version..and we get our bootloader unlocked then we can go crazy. (edit)Unless that's a carrier unlock Im not sure if that unlocks the bootloader or if their the same.
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I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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FWIW VoLTE is working, for me at least, on .509 so I think we're getting really close to the official release.
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FWIW VoLTE is working, for me at least, on .509 so I think we're getting really close to the official release.
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while your here are you rooted and have you deleted any system apps I'm curious...I know you had advanced calling before on your plan so that part makes sense.
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while your here are you rooted and have you deleted any system apps I'm curious...I know you had advanced calling before on your plan so that part makes sense.
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rooted yes, froze a few apps, mostly vzw with tibu but nothing deleted.
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you know are phones should be pretty close to being able to be unlocked by Verizon I was looking on eBay and there are unlocked Z3V's I dont know if they kept the drm keys but anyway once they release the final version..and we get our bootloader unlocked then we can go crazy. (edit)Unless that's a carrier unlock Im not sure if that unlocks the bootloader or if their the same.
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I think they mean carrier unlocked, which all vzw phones are now, since like the Galaxy S4. Boot loader and carrier unlock are two completely different things.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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my girlfriends droid turbo just received android 5.1 -
It was written on September 1st one day after ours was (509)-5.0.2 so maybe........ Soon or not it's Verizon.
http://phandroid.com/2015/10/07/sony-xperia-marshmallow-beta/ So the Z3 and Z3 compact are getting beta testing already.
Maybe leaked Marshmallow FTF for the Z3v soon.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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Just though all the kids on here would like to know that there is a 6.0 release over the 5.1.1, after all numbers mean so much on this forum.
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Didn't mean to kill the thunder of the leaked beta Lollipop.
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Just though all the kids on here would like to know that there is a 6.0 release over the 5.1.1, after all numbers mean so much on this forum.
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Didn't mean to kill the thunder of the leaked beta Lollipop.
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I wasn't trying to be rude either I have had this phone for almost a year since it first came out and have received no support for this phone at all I have spent literally hundreds of hours trying to fix this phone myself because verzions incompetence I'm not sure for the reason for the leak or how it happened but I doubt very much we will receive 6.0 and I don't really give a **** I would just like them to realease a Lollipop version so I can have a feature I was promised a year ago -advanced calling. Also quick charge 2.0 is a listed feature- it's not. Verizon = Liars. Look at the Z4v that's a disaster to.
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I wasn't trying to be rude either I have had this phone for almost a year since it first came out and have received no support for this phone at all I have spent literally hundreds of hours trying to fix this phone myself because verzions incompetence I'm not sure for the reason for the leak or how it happened but I doubt very much we will receive 6.0 and I don't really give a **** I would just like them to realease a Lollipop version so I can have a feature I was promised a year ago -advanced calling. Also quick charge 2.0 is a listed feature- it's not. Verizon = Liars. Look at the Z4v that's a disaster to.
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I am pretty tough skinned, it takes more than what you said to be considered "rude" to me.
I agree B.S. what VZW has done with the Advanced Calling 1.0, I am tired of getting the stepchild phones and VZW keeping us from getting the next OS release due to heavy-handed control. I mean Z3 getting a beta test for Marshmallow, seriously? Maybe the guy who got the leak can get Marshmallow leak, but I would like to have the latest OS if possible and I am sure others will agree.
An AOSP with a unlocked bootloader, I miss those days.
Is this bogus?
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
android-xda.net
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Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
android-xda.net
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If it was real we would have heard about it. If it is still wait until it shows up here on XDA.
Marea01 said:
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
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It is fake
Man it was so great to have the Droid when it first came out. ROM competition was tremendous and you could lead anything you wanted; if you could dream it, someone was already working on it.
I have 4 of those beauts!
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Man it was so great to have the Droid when it first came out. ROM competition was tremendous and you could lead anything you wanted; if you could dream it, someone was already working on it.
I have 4 of those beauts!
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I have a similar experience. My last phone was a Galaxy Nexus, it was an embarrassment of riches as far as being able to modify it. Different ROMs everywhere you looked, modified kernels, etc... Thanks to baldwinguy77 I was running KitKat 3 days after Google introduced it, even before any manufacturers had released phones with it.
The Xperia's lack of popularity with the general public is probably the cause of it's noticeable lack of developer interest. Few devs have one so few work on it.
I really like the phone, it's battery life is second to none. I may have to be satisfied running Lollipop but at least it is rooted so there's that.
Is it possible to totally remove all T-Mobile branding and simply flash the stock ROM (where to find?), which the unbranded LG V10 has, so as to get OTA updates directly from LG and not having to wait for T-Mobile? (My V10 has no SIM-Lock)
Turn a branded V10 into an unbranded V10...
Has anyone seen a thread or website with instructions?
Thanks!~
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Is it possible to totally remove all T-Mobile branding and simply flash the stock ROM (where to find?), which the unbranded LG V10 has, so as to get OTA updates directly from LG and not having to wait for T-Mobile? (My V10 has no SIM-Lock)
Turn a branded V10 into an unbranded V10...
Has anyone seen a thread or website with instructions?
Thanks!~
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The problem with this is, the unbranded models are European /Asian market phone, which more than likely won't work on t-mobile network, but there is this really cool thing I do, which is called "Uninstalling apps" or "debloating" which gets rid of all tmobile related apps and bloat... So it's just like an LG phone then...
And to flash such a rom you would have to be unlocked, with a custom recovery which keeps you from getting OTA updates anyway... So I guess to answer your questions, no, no, no, no, & ummmm no.
Common sense isn't all that common...
My ROM is as close to unbranded as you're going to get. You can find it in the Android Development section.
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My ROM is as close to unbranded as you're going to get. You can find it in the Android Development section.
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I'm waiting for marshmallow, then I'm going find a nice ROM that supports all the cool things this phone can do and removes all the silly things carriers' include.
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I'm waiting for marshmallow, then I'm going find a nice ROM that supports all the cool things this phone can do and removes all the silly things carriers' include.
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There are ROMs that do that a already, no mallow yet, but you may be waiting a bit...
Common sense isn't all that common
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I'm waiting for marshmallow, then I'm going find a nice ROM that supports all the cool things this phone can do and removes all the silly things carriers' include.
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You'll be waiting a very long while, my friend.
There is nothing I want to do today, that I can't achieve with a few tricks. I'd like to play with Doze, maybe get the fingerprint reader to improve. Its already the best portable music server, I've ever used. I can access my work network and my home pc smoothly. The T-Mobile stuff doesn't bug me that much. Their network doesn't suck compared to my previous phones (going back 10 years). So..... patience is rewarded or I can jump to the Galaxy 7 edge in a few months.
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There is nothing I want to do today, that I can't achieve with a few tricks. I'd like to play with Doze, maybe get the fingerprint reader to improve. Its already the best portable music server, I've ever used. I can access my work network and my home pc smoothly. The T-Mobile stuff doesn't bug me that much. Their network doesn't suck compared to my previous phones (going back 10 years). So..... patience is rewarded or I can jump to the Galaxy 7 edge in a few months.
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OK, thanks for letting us know. It was very important for us to know this.
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OK, thanks for letting us know. It was very important for us to know this.
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Hi, my name is Zac. I am a Capricorn, I like long walks on the beach, unicorns, fluffy bunnies, and three-legged dogs named Turbo.
Common sense isn't all that common
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Hi, my name is Zac. I am a Capricorn, I like long walks on the beach, unicorns, fluffy bunnies, and three-legged dogs named Turbo.
Common sense isn't all that common
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You shouldn't work so hard at bring a jerk Zac. Not when it comes so naturally to you
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You shouldn't work so hard at bring a jerk Zac. Not when it comes so naturally to you
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It ain't work if you live your job... [emoji2]
Common sense isn't all that common