Is it possible to totally remove all T-Mobile branding and simply flash the stock ROM (where to find?), which the unbranded LG V10 has, so as to get OTA updates directly from LG and not having to wait for T-Mobile? (My V10 has no SIM-Lock)
Turn a branded V10 into an unbranded V10...
Has anyone seen a thread or website with instructions?
Thanks!~
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Is it possible to totally remove all T-Mobile branding and simply flash the stock ROM (where to find?), which the unbranded LG V10 has, so as to get OTA updates directly from LG and not having to wait for T-Mobile? (My V10 has no SIM-Lock)
Turn a branded V10 into an unbranded V10...
Has anyone seen a thread or website with instructions?
Thanks!~
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The problem with this is, the unbranded models are European /Asian market phone, which more than likely won't work on t-mobile network, but there is this really cool thing I do, which is called "Uninstalling apps" or "debloating" which gets rid of all tmobile related apps and bloat... So it's just like an LG phone then...
And to flash such a rom you would have to be unlocked, with a custom recovery which keeps you from getting OTA updates anyway... So I guess to answer your questions, no, no, no, no, & ummmm no.
Common sense isn't all that common...
My ROM is as close to unbranded as you're going to get. You can find it in the Android Development section.
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My ROM is as close to unbranded as you're going to get. You can find it in the Android Development section.
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I'm waiting for marshmallow, then I'm going find a nice ROM that supports all the cool things this phone can do and removes all the silly things carriers' include.
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I'm waiting for marshmallow, then I'm going find a nice ROM that supports all the cool things this phone can do and removes all the silly things carriers' include.
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There are ROMs that do that a already, no mallow yet, but you may be waiting a bit...
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I'm waiting for marshmallow, then I'm going find a nice ROM that supports all the cool things this phone can do and removes all the silly things carriers' include.
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You'll be waiting a very long while, my friend.
There is nothing I want to do today, that I can't achieve with a few tricks. I'd like to play with Doze, maybe get the fingerprint reader to improve. Its already the best portable music server, I've ever used. I can access my work network and my home pc smoothly. The T-Mobile stuff doesn't bug me that much. Their network doesn't suck compared to my previous phones (going back 10 years). So..... patience is rewarded or I can jump to the Galaxy 7 edge in a few months.
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There is nothing I want to do today, that I can't achieve with a few tricks. I'd like to play with Doze, maybe get the fingerprint reader to improve. Its already the best portable music server, I've ever used. I can access my work network and my home pc smoothly. The T-Mobile stuff doesn't bug me that much. Their network doesn't suck compared to my previous phones (going back 10 years). So..... patience is rewarded or I can jump to the Galaxy 7 edge in a few months.
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OK, thanks for letting us know. It was very important for us to know this.
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OK, thanks for letting us know. It was very important for us to know this.
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Hi, my name is Zac. I am a Capricorn, I like long walks on the beach, unicorns, fluffy bunnies, and three-legged dogs named Turbo.
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Hi, my name is Zac. I am a Capricorn, I like long walks on the beach, unicorns, fluffy bunnies, and three-legged dogs named Turbo.
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You shouldn't work so hard at bring a jerk Zac. Not when it comes so naturally to you
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You shouldn't work so hard at bring a jerk Zac. Not when it comes so naturally to you
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It ain't work if you live your job... [emoji2]
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I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
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Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
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I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
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You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
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You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
the7thson said:
I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
jjohn999 said:
would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.
This might be a very silly question but...
I know T mobile US hasn't released 4.2.2 so it doesn't come with wifi calling, but has anyone tried importing the apk (or whatever it is) from 4.1.2 to the 4.2.2 release ?
JoeTesla said:
This might be a very silly question but...
I know T mobile US hasn't released 4.2.2 so it doesn't come with wifi calling, but has anyone tried importing the apk (or whatever it is) from 4.1.2 to the 4.2.2 release ?
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Considering how deep the needed changes go it won't boot.
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Considering how deep the needed changes go it won't boot.
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I see, I didn't realize it goes that 'deep'.
Thanks
I would make, and trade a child to get wifi calling on 4.2.2...
BableMan said:
I would make, and trade a child to get wifi calling on 4.2.2...
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Dude...patience....once T-Mobile releases their 4.2.2 update it will be available and quickly built into every custom ROM for the HTC One. I have a developer edition device and have been running custom ROMs since I unboxed the thing. After every T-Mobile update, the devs ripped out the parts needed for wifi calling and updated the custom ROMs. It will come...T-Mobile is just notorious for being slow at releasing updates.
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Dude...patience....once T-Mobile releases their 4.2.2 update it will be available and quickly built into every custom ROM for the HTC One. I have a developer edition device and have been running custom ROMs since I unboxed the thing. After every T-Mobile update, the devs ripped out the parts needed for wifi calling and updated the custom ROMs. It will come...T-Mobile is just notorious for being slow at releasing updates.
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T mobile has been known to take over nine months for updates before. I'm just saying that my plan might be faster, and if there are any genius coders/tmobile leakers wanting an Irish child now they know that they have options
waiting for your good news！
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I would make, and trade a child to get wifi calling on 4.2.2...
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fighting！
Is there any apps that do the same thing?
Nope
There's currently a bounty for getting this done on the Nexus 4, last I checked it was $1,400. This bounty has been up for MONTHS and no one has been able to do it yet. $1,400 is a hell of a lot of motivation, so I'm sure they are trying, it's just baked too deep. There are rumors that T-mobile's 4.2.2 is taking so long because they are attempting to separate wifi calling, which I really hope is a true rumor.
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This might be a very silly question but...
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it is because it's in the wrong section
Hi i want to know if can i upgrade my e970(Nexus 4 Converted) to android 4.3 the only issue i cant find the fixes (sd/gps/physical keys) if someone can help me to do this.. i will be grateful..
carnes said:
Hi i want to know if can i upgrade my e970(Nexus 4 Converted) to android 4.3 the only issue i cant find the fixes (sd/gps/physical keys) if someone can help me to do this.. i will be grateful..
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I don't think anyone has done any new fixes for 4.3 conversion, as there's really not much point anymore. Some of the old fixes might still work, but you're probably better off converting back. Is there a particular ROM you want that hasn't been ported? If not, what's your reason to stay converted?
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I don't think anyone has done any new fixes for 4.3 conversion, as there's really not much point anymore. Some of the old fixes might still work, but you're probably better off converting back. Is there a particular ROM you want that hasn't been ported? If not, what's your reason to stay converted?
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Thanks for your answer, first i dont like the original lg software, second i have better battery result with the nexus software and all be get better with android 4.3, third i dont know if this is a placebo effect but i feel more fluid performance...
carnes said:
Thanks for your answer, first i dont like the original lg software, second i have better battery result with the nexus software and all be get better with android 4.3, third i dont know if this is a placebo effect but i feel more fluid performance...
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There are plenty of 4.3 ROM available for non converted devices which are non stock, and which yield excellent battery life. I recommend you try some of them before dismissing them.
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There are plenty of 4.3 ROM available for non converted devices which are non stock, and which yield excellent battery life. I recommend you try some of them before dismissing them.
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I saw this and I figured I'd jump in, I'm also converted and I'm wondering about a GPS fix- I've easily applied the fixes for Ext SD, Cap Keys, etc, however GPS seems to aloud me- I can't find a way to make it work in a normal fashion, Maybe if I'd give it like a long time it would work but then what's the point?
So, I was wondering, what was a way that worked for you to make GPS work?
Additionally, I will say that in all my time doing android (hasn't been long, but I've gone through at least 7-8 devices including most of the flagships) I've never seen any version of CM run as smooth and stable as a stock nexus 4, but that's just me- I like roms who work fairly quickly out of the box, not ones where you have to keep putting out fires and fixing stuff.
Anyway, regarding my question- any idea how to "fix" GPS?
Most of the experienced users and developers do not approve of the n4 conversion and a lot of us explicitly refuse to support it. So convert back, you should have just been patient and waited the wee bit of time it took to get aosp roms on here without converting.
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Most of the experienced users and developers do not approve of the n4 conversion and a lot of us explicitly refuse to support it. So convert back, you should have just been patient and waited the wee bit of time it took to get aosp roms on here without converting.
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Is that so? A developer's website which doesn't support developing? How wonderfully condescending of you!
Couple of things:
First off, I just did this conversion, after having being annoyed with the optimus UI in my optimus g which I procured from ebay at a wonderful price of 170$ for a mint in box price. I figured converting to a nexus 4 would simply grant me a wonderful stock rom to use, much like Galaxy S4 use flash the GPe rom for their own use.
The fact that this very simple process (honestly, just use the tot file provided in LGNPST, god almighty, it's child's play! only ODIN is easier than this!) is not supported in my eyes just goes to show the truly awful state in which we found ourselves in- Instead of exploring new avenues, we fear advancement and change and are told to "stick to our pre-approved roms".
Well sir, perhaps I'm not your idea of an "experienced user" but I will not be kow-towed! I'll just figure this out on my own, as I did with most things I needed to figure out while helping my friends with their android devices for the last couple of years.
Not to bash the devs of course, they offer us choice and we choose to put our heads in the sand.
In any case, have a wonderful day, let me know of anything else you don't approve of so I can immediately remove it from my life-
Electricity? Running Water? Breathing Air?
Good day!
Missunderstanding..
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Is that so? A developer's website which doesn't support developing? How wonderfully condescending of you!
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You're completely missing the point. It wasn't about being condescending at all, but to inform the user that no one with E970s are working on the converted version anymore, as you can run the ASOP perfectly fine "natively". So, since all development is going into working with the latest releases on non-converted E970, why should we recommend N4 converting your E970?? No one will help you should anything go wrong.
That's not being condescending, just a statement of facts. Sorry.
This issue could be avoided if people would just do a bit more reading before jumping into the conversion. I agree there is no real point to convert anymore.
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extremeblizz said:
Is that so? A developer's website which doesn't support developing? How wonderfully condescending of you!
Couple of things:
First off, I just did this conversion, after having being annoyed with the optimus UI in my optimus g which I procured from ebay at a wonderful price of 170$ for a mint in box price. I figured converting to a nexus 4 would simply grant me a wonderful stock rom to use, much like Galaxy S4 use flash the GPe rom for their own use.
The fact that this very simple process (honestly, just use the tot file provided in LGNPST, god almighty, it's child's play! only ODIN is easier than this!) is not supported in my eyes just goes to show the truly awful state in which we found ourselves in- Instead of exploring new avenues, we fear advancement and change and are told to "stick to our pre-approved roms".
Well sir, perhaps I'm not your idea of an "experienced user" but I will not be kow-towed! I'll just figure this out on my own, as I did with most things I needed to figure out while helping my friends with their android devices for the last couple of years.
Not to bash the devs of course, they offer us choice and we choose to put our heads in the sand.
In any case, have a wonderful day, let me know of anything else you don't approve of so I can immediately remove it from my life-
Electricity? Running Water? Breathing Air?
Good day!
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Something is off about you. I informed you of by far the path of least resistance to put 4.3 on your phone. Instead you suggest I am kowtowing you. That doesn't make any sense.
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The conversion was a hack released against the wishes of those who discovered it, then left unsupported. Dvhexer released some patches until 4.1 update made the whole thing pointless. If you convert your phone so you can feel like a rebel that's fine, but it will be pointed out how silly it is if support is asked for.
Ive always been an HTC man and watched both live streams to decide my next phone. Im now pretty convinced its going to be the S6 Edge. The one thing thats worrying me is the development side of things with a Samsung own chip. Are they pretty good at supporting developers with documentation and such? I know when HTC went with the Tegra chip in the One X there were lots of problems with S-Off and that sort of thing. Is there likely to be any of that here or is it not a problem?
Exynos is closed source. They are not as open as say Qualcomm. Kernel is GPL so we will have custom stock kernel and ROMs. However... Cm12 and aosp is going to be hard AND buggy.
Custom stock ROM's are better than nothing, especially if you can get that bloatware out of the phone, even with a 128GB option (my GS6 Edge of choice) I still don't want all of the AT&T Bloatware and GB's of wasted space. Hiding is not enough for me.
are we gonna be able to achieve root?
it's all I'm interested in first phase, just want to remove some blootware from sammy, install a real UI and remove ads.
custom rom I can wait little more
Root will probably be the easiest.
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Root will probably be the easiest.
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not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
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not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
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The two biggest US Carriers always rain on our parade, sadly they offer the best coverage otherwise I would go with T-Mo just for the open nature of the devices.
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are we gonna be able to achieve root?
it's all I'm interested in first phase, just want to remove some blootware from sammy, install a real UI and remove ads.
custom rom I can wait little more
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Yeah Chainfire will done it on time.
Does that mean there will be problems with aosp Roms?
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Does that mean there will be problems with aosp Roms?
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You will most probably never see a AOSP based ROM for s6 I'm afraid. And if you do, it will be so bug infested that it will take months to make it a daily. Then there is the stability issue when hack building like that...
Just check the note 4 exynos page... One half functioning cm11 (kudos to the developer).
So yeah... Stock ROM, debloated with a custom kernel with kcal or something similar. I'm happy. Maybe even themed to aosp and 360dpi...
Dreams...
That sounds bad . It seems i have to think again then. Maybe if we get Samsung based Roms like echoerom i might be tempted
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That sounds bad . It seems i have to think again then. Maybe if we get Samsung based Roms like echoerom i might be tempted
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Yeah well Omega Roms have never failed a galaxy S series before...
Well we will see.
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Root and Knox
Hey guys
One of my colleagues has a Galaxy Alpha and is kinda jealous of me being able to stream to AirPlay-devices etc because my phone is rooted. So I said that I'd help him obtain rood, but soon discovered that the Alpha is not possible to root without trashing Knox.
So... does anybody know if that will also be the case with The S6 Edge? I NEED that phone, but I also NEED root... and I'd like to keep knox...
Also, The GS2 had both overclocking and undervolting options available... do you gus reckon that that will be possible on the S6Edge ?
- Martin
If you NEED root, don't buy it until root is confirmed. No one knows at this point how hard/easy it will be, or how long it will take to achieve.
looks like Chainfire has it already;
at least he posted a link in the original dev forum.
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If you NEED root, don't buy it until root is confirmed. No one knows at this point how hard/easy it will be, or how long it will take to achieve.
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Hey guys
One of my colleagues has a Galaxy Alpha and is kinda jealous of me being able to stream to AirPlay-devices etc because my phone is rooted. So I said that I'd help him obtain rood, but soon discovered that the Alpha is not possible to root without trashing Knox.
So... does anybody know if that will also be the case with The S6 Edge? I NEED that phone, but I also NEED root... and I'd like to keep knox...
Also, The GS2 had both overclocking and undervolting options available... do you gus reckon that that will be possible on the S6Edge ?
- Martin
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not for everyone it won't be. verizon and at&t users will probably not be able to, if at all.
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He did it already http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/orig-development/cf-auto-root-t3056631
Root already is a good sign!
Would be interesting to know of any developers who are at least interested in getting this phone to work on?
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/ don't see the Z3v in the short list.
Why not the Z3v too?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/ don't see the Z3v in the short list.
Why not the Z3v too?
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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Agreed this 509 firmware is stagefright patched and was built like 5 weeks ago and its 5.0.2 I think this is all were getting and since the Z4v is no longer coming out I belive 5.0.2 is the end of the road for the Z3v. This 509 firmware is good though.
I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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the thought did cross my mind that they would update 509 the rest of the way to 5.1.1 now that stagefright patch is out for z3 5.1.1 because it may be bad for business to have us on firmware we shouldn't have. I don't even care really Verizon made me sick with this shiit I guess I have to get a nexus phone next but I'm not doing that till they firgure out how to but an SD card in a phone. And thank you for your work and getting the ball rolling on Lollipop.
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the thought did cross my mind that they would update 509 the rest of the way to 5.1.1 now that stagefright patch is out for z3 5.1.1 because it may be bad for business to have us on firmware we shouldn't have. I don't even care really Verizon made me sick with this shiit I guess I have to get a nexus phone next but I'm not doing that till they firgure out how to but an SD card in a phone. And thank you for your work and getting the ball rolling on Lollipop.
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Thanks so much for the recognition. Somehow my leaked FTF of Lollipop was taken down, so I wasn't even sure if people still knew that I was the one that brought us that first Lollipop leak. I'm going to build us an amazing rom too.. I'm just waiting on Verizon to push their official build so that I won't be wasting my time building an outdated rom lol... U know like last time :/
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Thanks so much for the recognition. Somehow my leaked FTF of Lollipop was taken down, so I wasn't even sure if people still knew that I was the one that brought us that first Lollipop leak. I'm going to build us an amazing rom too.. I'm just waiting on Verizon to push their official build so that I won't be wasting my time building an outdated rom lol... U know like last time :/
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you know are phones should be pretty close to being able to be unlocked by Verizon I was looking on eBay and there are unlocked Z3V's I dont know if they kept the drm keys but anyway once they release the final version..and we get our bootloader unlocked then we can go crazy. (edit)Unless that's a carrier unlock Im not sure if that unlocks the bootloader or if their the same.
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I can understand your frustration, but I wouldn't take it for 100% that Sony is intentionally excluding the Z3V... They will probably send the marshmallow firmware to Verizon, and because of that, we'll probably never receive it unless we get a lucky leak, but I doubt that because I don't think it'll even be a candidate for Internal Testing as I'm sure Verizon plans to push Lollipop, fulfill their year old promises, and be done with their EOL device.. so even if Sony does send them the firmware, Verizon is most likely going to sit on it until it's buried... But you have to think with articles like these, even if they are press statements from Sony, it's still likely that they could leave out the Z3V unintentionally because even though its a variant of the Z3, by saying the Z3 is getting the update, they could be collectively including the Z3V along with that... but either way, I agree that we'll most likely never get this update, and that sucks.... But I do think Verizon is going to give us the latest Lollipop for sure.... There's no reason not to jump it to 5.1.1 if Sony gave them the firmware, it's not a major update... I think they just wanted a solid Lollipop build in "testing" (an intentional leak out there to collect usage stats from people bold enough to flash it) with stagefright patches, etc to make sure they had a solid build before putting the finishing touches on the firmware. There is a different Kernel in the .509 version than the .485, as well as some other interesting differences that make me think they're gearing it for the latest Lolllipop... and really as long as we get that with working VOLTE.... I can be happy enough with that.
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FWIW VoLTE is working, for me at least, on .509 so I think we're getting really close to the official release.
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FWIW VoLTE is working, for me at least, on .509 so I think we're getting really close to the official release.
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while your here are you rooted and have you deleted any system apps I'm curious...I know you had advanced calling before on your plan so that part makes sense.
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while your here are you rooted and have you deleted any system apps I'm curious...I know you had advanced calling before on your plan so that part makes sense.
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rooted yes, froze a few apps, mostly vzw with tibu but nothing deleted.
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you know are phones should be pretty close to being able to be unlocked by Verizon I was looking on eBay and there are unlocked Z3V's I dont know if they kept the drm keys but anyway once they release the final version..and we get our bootloader unlocked then we can go crazy. (edit)Unless that's a carrier unlock Im not sure if that unlocks the bootloader or if their the same.
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I think they mean carrier unlocked, which all vzw phones are now, since like the Galaxy S4. Boot loader and carrier unlock are two completely different things.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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my girlfriends droid turbo just received android 5.1 -
It was written on September 1st one day after ours was (509)-5.0.2 so maybe........ Soon or not it's Verizon.
http://phandroid.com/2015/10/07/sony-xperia-marshmallow-beta/ So the Z3 and Z3 compact are getting beta testing already.
Maybe leaked Marshmallow FTF for the Z3v soon.
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If we can't even get lollipop, why on earth would you expect marshmallow? Not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be realistic.
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Just though all the kids on here would like to know that there is a 6.0 release over the 5.1.1, after all numbers mean so much on this forum.
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Didn't mean to kill the thunder of the leaked beta Lollipop.
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Just though all the kids on here would like to know that there is a 6.0 release over the 5.1.1, after all numbers mean so much on this forum.
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Didn't mean to kill the thunder of the leaked beta Lollipop.
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I wasn't trying to be rude either I have had this phone for almost a year since it first came out and have received no support for this phone at all I have spent literally hundreds of hours trying to fix this phone myself because verzions incompetence I'm not sure for the reason for the leak or how it happened but I doubt very much we will receive 6.0 and I don't really give a **** I would just like them to realease a Lollipop version so I can have a feature I was promised a year ago -advanced calling. Also quick charge 2.0 is a listed feature- it's not. Verizon = Liars. Look at the Z4v that's a disaster to.
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I wasn't trying to be rude either I have had this phone for almost a year since it first came out and have received no support for this phone at all I have spent literally hundreds of hours trying to fix this phone myself because verzions incompetence I'm not sure for the reason for the leak or how it happened but I doubt very much we will receive 6.0 and I don't really give a **** I would just like them to realease a Lollipop version so I can have a feature I was promised a year ago -advanced calling. Also quick charge 2.0 is a listed feature- it's not. Verizon = Liars. Look at the Z4v that's a disaster to.
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I am pretty tough skinned, it takes more than what you said to be considered "rude" to me.
I agree B.S. what VZW has done with the Advanced Calling 1.0, I am tired of getting the stepchild phones and VZW keeping us from getting the next OS release due to heavy-handed control. I mean Z3 getting a beta test for Marshmallow, seriously? Maybe the guy who got the leak can get Marshmallow leak, but I would like to have the latest OS if possible and I am sure others will agree.
An AOSP with a unlocked bootloader, I miss those days.
Is this bogus?
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
android-xda.net
Marea01 said:
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
android-xda.net
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If it was real we would have heard about it. If it is still wait until it shows up here on XDA.
Marea01 said:
Hi I'm new to xda developers forum. Is this site BS that claims to offer a 6.0 rom for Z3v?
Since I'm new, I'm not allowed to share the link but it's from
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It is fake
Man it was so great to have the Droid when it first came out. ROM competition was tremendous and you could lead anything you wanted; if you could dream it, someone was already working on it.
I have 4 of those beauts!
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Man it was so great to have the Droid when it first came out. ROM competition was tremendous and you could lead anything you wanted; if you could dream it, someone was already working on it.
I have 4 of those beauts!
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I have a similar experience. My last phone was a Galaxy Nexus, it was an embarrassment of riches as far as being able to modify it. Different ROMs everywhere you looked, modified kernels, etc... Thanks to baldwinguy77 I was running KitKat 3 days after Google introduced it, even before any manufacturers had released phones with it.
The Xperia's lack of popularity with the general public is probably the cause of it's noticeable lack of developer interest. Few devs have one so few work on it.
I really like the phone, it's battery life is second to none. I may have to be satisfied running Lollipop but at least it is rooted so there's that.