Titanium vs Helium [opinion] - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

So I bought Titanium a loooooooooooong time ago but never used it to backup everything between rom installs. I started to do that recently.
I've been using Helium but I still see everyone mentioning how awesome Titanium is. What's the difference and which do you prefer?
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Helium is great in that it does not require root.

Titanium is the best backup app there is. I've used it forever, and I've never had a problem with it.
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I purchased helium. And email the dev like two months ago never heard from him. And I wish I would have gotten titanium instead. Helium is very slow at backing apps and restoring them.
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Helium just uses the adb backup method so while it's nice to have in app form you might as well just use adb and save some money. It's also extremely slow as mentioned.

I use helium and I like it, but yeah it is slow.

Don't forget Rom Toolbox Pro. Its cheaper than Titanium Pro and has tons more features.

Been using Titanium for many years, lots of functionality to it, just explore. Never tried Helium before, maybe I'll take a look.

titanium with boxdrop or google drive to back up anything number 1

I am very unhappy with Helium. I have been using TiBu I was too day since the D1 days. Been a solid foundation for my backup needs. I do use MyBackup Pro though for my call logs and sms/mms backup. I know TiBu can do it but it is more of habit for me than anything.
The reason I am unhappy with Helium is cause it is slow, doesn't seem to ever back things up properly to internal storage or to the cloud, and lastly restoring something takes as long as the IRS to process your refund.
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Titanium Backup serves all of my needs perfectly! Embarrassingly it took me a while to figure out how to back up with it though =P

I've had no probs with TB

I've been using Titanium backup since the first day I rooted. I have purchased Helium and Helium pro, and I used them for a while for some stuff. But now that I have Titanium all figured out, it's the ONLY app I use to backup before flashing a new rom. It does everything I need. Back up calls, texts, app and data. I was even able to transfer my call log and text messages from my S3 to my new S4 very easily.
Titanium backup is all you need.

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Auto Batch Install Apps?

As a lot of us do here we are constantly flashing new roms and what not that require fresh installs. I've been using Titanium Backup to restore my apps and data, which I love btw. The only thing is I have quite a few apps, around 120. Going one by one to restore them takes some time. Is there a way to auto install them without me having to press install on each one?
speoples20 said:
As a lot of us do here we are constantly flashing new roms and what not that require fresh installs. I've been using Titanium Backup to restore my apps and data, which I love btw. The only thing is I have quite a few apps, around 120. Going one by one to restore them takes some time. Is there a way to auto install them without me having to press install on each one?
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That is a feature of the paid version of Titanium Backup. When you send the developer a payment on pay pal, he will send you a file with a license key to unlock the pro features that you place on the root of your internal sd card. I highly recommend paying for it as it saves a lot of time and hassle.
Yep, Titanium backup. With the licensed version, it will restore all your apps and data/settings in a batch job with no user interaction.
I wish AppBrain would do this too.
Lastly, I just switched over from the HTC EVO. The Cyanomod ROM (CM6) has remote backups through Google, so it will install the apps automagically. I'm pretty sure this is a Froyo thing, but CM6 is the only ROM I know of that does the auto-download/install thing.
Ah ok yeah was planing on getting this since I flash a lot.
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That is a feature of the paid version of Titanium Backup. When you send the developer a payment on pay pal, he will send you a file with a license key to unlock the pro features that you place on the root of your internal sd card. I highly recommend paying for it as it saves a lot of time and hassle.
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+1 A must have for those of us who suffer from installing every Rom we can get our hands on! ;-)
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I just found out MyBackUp Pro does batch installs as well. I hadn't used it for a while but if you have root you are able to install everything plus fix the market links as well.
ZoinksS2k said:
Yep, Titanium backup. With the licensed version, it will restore all your apps and data/settings in a batch job with no user interaction.
I wish AppBrain would do this too.
Lastly, I just switched over from the HTC EVO. The Cyanomod ROM (CM6) has remote backups through Google, so it will install the apps automagically. I'm pretty sure this is a Froyo thing, but CM6 is the only ROM I know of that does the auto-download/install thing.
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How do you like the vibrant compared to the evo? I had the evo for a week and liked it but I think the vibrant will have be the phone for me especially once cm6 is ported over
Mybackup pro does a good job too I use it because I flash like 3 times a week...it puts all your apps back as well as data if you tell it to.
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microfire21 said:
Mybackup pro does a good job too I use it because I flash like 3 times a week...it puts all your apps back as well as data if you tell it to.
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Could be IMO, but Titanium is 1000 X's better than My Backup Pro. Everything about Titanium is better, and the developer is amazing.

[Q] Which is the best app for backing up User apps and Data?

Hey guys! I am planning to install the CM7 ROM on my Droid X2. I want to back up my Applications and the application data and any other stuff so that I can restore those apps on CM7. But I heard some people are having trouble using Titanium Backup on CM7.
Are others having this issue too? And if this is indeed a big problem, what other application can I use to back up my apps and app data and restore them on CM7?
Thanks for you help in advance.
I recommend none
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motcher41 said:
I recommend none
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Then how do you backup and restore app data?
In the BSR recovery, you can do a Nandroid backup. Then, when you are ready to install those apps, you can get a couple of different apps to read from the nandroid backup:
Titanium Backup - But, if you have this, then just use it to backup your apps and data. But, it can restore nandroided programs and settings.
Yaffs Explorer - You can go into the nandroid backup and retrieve programs, settings and files from this and it's free.
I myself use Titanium Backup Pro to backup my programs and settings via the normal backup operations. But, I have used it to restore applications from a nandroid backup when I forgot to backup my settings via Titanium Backup before flashing. That's why I ALWAYS nandroid backup before I flash or SBF.
Titanium Backup, been using it for some time, never had an issue with it.
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Titanium Backup, been using it for some time, never had an issue with it.
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+1 to this...as long as you do NOT restore system data (ringtones, bluetooth pairings, remembered wifi networks, etc...) . User applications and application data has never caused me a problem going between ROMs.
Nandroid from recovery is the best and most accurate, in my opinion its way better than titanium because it actually makes a complete image of your current system and its free, never had any problems with it and it has saved me so many times...
mattfox27 said:
Nandroid from recovery is the best and most accurate, in my opinion its way better than titanium because it actually makes a complete image of your current system and its free, never had any problems with it and it has saved me so many times...
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Agreed for recovering from a mistake or installing something that didn't work. The OP was looking to be able to move to a different ROM without having to reinstall every app by hand. Nandroid won't help with that...
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Agreed for recovering from a mistake or installing something that didn't work. The OP was looking to be able to move to a different ROM without having to reinstall every app by hand. Nandroid won't help with that...
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But, you can use various apps, like Titanium Backup and others, to reinstall the apps from a nandroid backup. Titanium Backup is really good.
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Titanium backup is the best
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I use Titanium Backup and have never had a problem with restoring my apps and app data on CM7 or MIUI. I think the people who have problems with it are using it to backup and restore their system data, which is not good when changing a ROM since the system data can be a little different from ROM to ROM. Use it for apps and app data only.
I agree with all that say Titanium Backup. I did have a problem with it freezing when it was in between reinstalling an app and switching to another when I ran the batch. However, this might have been me being impatient and trying to enjoy CM7 too soon. lol. Also you can restore from the nandroid backup with the paid version of Titanium Backup.
Rom toolbox automatically backs up apks for root users, no data though.
Titanium backup might be ur best bet
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I have had the freezing problem also but it has only done it with cm7. Reboot usually fixed it. With cm7 i find myself rebooting allot anyway for little glitches. Kinda like windows really just doesn't seem to want to run continuous for long periods of time.
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With CM7, there are many small issues and annoyances for me.
I am going back to stock and maybe over to Eclipse.
Titanium: Frequent crashes, need data wipe to get it going for couple of my apps, (I NEVER restore system stuffs, just my apps).
Games: Some of them have random pauses, some of them have random crashes, 1 game won't work (Siegecraft) etc.
Apps: Sygic Navigation app does not work, Navigon works though, Gallery app re-starts all the time.
Phone calls: I am suspecting some calls are NOT coming through for me, my wife tells me that she has to call me 2-5 times to get through sometimes. I see some missed calls and get notifications, but I could SWEAR that the phone never rang.
Yes, this was my daily driver for couple of weeks, but I would not recommend it.
These issues (other than the phone calls) are minor and annoyance only, but when added all up, It doesn't contribute to good overall experience.
Once it gets few iterations of bug fixes, I will probably get back to it.
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Hey guys! I am planning to install the CM7 ROM on my Droid X2. I want to back up my Applications and the application data and any other stuff so that I can restore those apps on CM7. But I heard some people are having trouble using Titanium Backup on CM7.
Are others having this issue too? And if this is indeed a big problem, what other application can I use to back up my apps and app data and restore them on CM7?
Thanks for you help in advance.
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I use TiBu to backup my apps and data. However, don't use TiBu to restore system apps or data. That just causes problems. I create a "restore" group and put most of my apps in there and restore both the app and data. I also create a group for "apps only" and this just restores the app and not the data. Apps like Groupon I have had to go back and wiped their data to get them to work. If you don't have a bunch of apps (unlike me with 307 apps) I would recommend going through each app on it's own.
Ciao!
My Backup Pro has been very good to me. You can make data and app backsups that can me stored online aswell as on your phone's SD card.
Its also dummy-proof; you'll figure it out in ~15 minutes.
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help swapping phones

I got a replacement phone for my note and i am trying to swapping units but I am not getting the results I wanted. Right now none of the phones are rooted. I have use app backup and restore, app monster backup and restore pro trial and my backup pro trial. The first 2 do a successful backup and i can restore but my backup pro will not let me restore to another phone in the trial mode...
Anyway, those that restore install the apps but the phones does not Look the same. Icons are not like I had them setup before, all paper walls are not the same, etc...
Am i expecting too much from these app? Is there an app that will effectively clone the phone much like a restore in a computer does? Do I have to be rooted for this to happen and can I unroot the old phone to send it back to at&t and they won't be able to tell?
Thanks!
Ps- I also attempted Kies but the restore fails every time. If I do a restore of settings only it restore that but still all icons are not the same etc...
Unless you are using a launcher that has the option to restore its own settings i think you are out of luck.
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So If I install a launcher will it replicate what I have now in the old phone (meaning I wont have to set up the icons on the new launcher on the old phone) I can then back that up and have the setting moved?
How about a nandroid backup? it sounds to me than that is the closest thing to a clone but I have to be rooted to use that. Can I root the old phone then unroot it?
That might work. Seems like just as much energy though
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[Q] When to use Titanium Backup?

This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
I believe it's for when you have to do a sudden wipe or restore on your phone due to a technical issue with it. Changing out the roms I would imagine would have negative impacts on your phone.
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UnexplainedBacon said:
This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
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I've been restoring my apps with titanium on all roms i've tried and my phone still works perfectly
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Most devs I have seen on threads will say it is ok for apps from the google store. Like angry birds, stuff like that.
It is the system apps, etc that cause issues.
I use it religiously to restore my purchased apps, etc.
yea i have been using titanium backup since the OG droid i only do market apps like the post above says. and i never let google restor anything when flashing a new rom. i would recommend if your new to TB just to do a batch backup before you go to flash a new rom thats what i do i used to do a schedual but stopped that.
on a side note i do back up my bluetooth pairings, wifi connections, and sms messages (but you have to be careful with sms if your going from one android version to another example : backing up 4.1.2 and restoring it on 4.2.1 may have ill effects)
It's best just to restore data for user apps, not the app and not system apps. By doing this you should never run into problems. Most of the times user apps won't cause problems if you restore the app on the same device with similar rom (touchwiz to touchwiz or AOSP to AOSP). When on the same device but different rom base (touchwiz to AOSP, AOSP to touchwiz) you'll see issues with some apps but not others. When going to a different phone there's a very high chance restoring any app will cause problems (data only is fine though). So the easiest way to avoid problems is to allow Google to restore your apps then go in and restore data. One system setting I haven't had problems with restoring (data only) is wifi, avoid restoring any other system apps or data. Also you should know that text messages backed up from touchwiz restore fine on other touchwiz roms, but may not have correct date and times, and vice versa. Also check out app extractor, it allows you to restore from your nandroid (free only allows 5 apps at a time, whereas titanium is one by one in the free version)
I appreciate the replies. Question on backing up just the data for my apps but not the apps themselves. I don't see an option for this in Titanium Backup. It seems to be giving me the option of user apps or user apps plus system apps. I don't see a user data only option. Am I missing something?
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UnexplainedBacon said:
I appreciate the replies. Question on backing up just the data for my apps but not the apps themselves. I don't see an option for this in Titanium Backup. It seems to be giving me the option of user apps or user apps plus system apps. I don't see a user data only option. Am I missing something?
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I may be wrong, but I think you have to back up the app and data, you just want to restore the data though.
Exactly right! I figured I didnt have much to lose on this phone, between Google and Box, so I went ahead flashed another ROM. Went to restore with Titanium and it gave me the option of apps and data or data only.
Thanks!
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Now what about carbon?
UnexplainedBacon said:
This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
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I usually do titanium backup for apps (all the white letter ones), and settings, bookmark, sms, call logs, widgets (selected green letter ones)....but no system apks (red letters). When you make these backups, you must remove all old backups.

[Q] Restoring SMS/MMS with Titanium Backup

Has anyone had any success in restoring sms/mms with TiBu? I used to be able to do it all the time on my Galaxy Nexus, but now with the GS4, it fails every time. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
fizeke136 said:
Has anyone had any success in restoring sms/mms with TiBu? I used to be able to do it all the time on my Galaxy Nexus, but now with the GS4, it fails every time. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I'm not sure if it is related or not but SMS backup & restore does not work on the S4 either. I have a beta app from the dev but haven't tried it yet. In the mean time I have been using SMS backup+
BladeRunner said:
I'm not sure if it is related or not but SMS backup & restore does not work on the S4 either. I have a beta app from the dev but haven't tried it yet. In the mean time I have been using SMS backup+
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Hmm, thats weird.. I was able to use SMS backup & restore a few days ago. It was actually my last resort since I couldnt get TiBu to work. The only thing I dont like about that is it doesnt support MMS yet. Are you able to restore MMS as well with SMS backup+?
fizeke136 said:
Hmm, thats weird.. I was able to use SMS backup & restore a few days ago. It was actually my last resort since I couldnt get TiBu to work. The only thing I dont like about that is it doesnt support MMS yet. Are you able to restore MMS as well with SMS backup+?
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Ran into the same problem with TiBu, went to the device I was moving my old texts from and the only way it would do it was if I removed the embedded pictures and it restored
I started a fresh titanium backup folder with this phone. I have 3 sms backups. The first 2 appear OK and have file sizes of 1-2 megs but the 3rd just has a ? In the description and only a few kb. However I cannot restore any of them and trying to make new backups fail. The first ones were most likely from a rooted stock. I've been on hyper since and the backup never worked on it as far as I can tell. I've wanted to give touch wiz a shot so I have yet to try any AOSP flavors yet so I cannot comment on those.
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It kept failing for me too. I found an app called JS backup (it was free) in the play store that worked for me. I just made a backup on my S3 and used wifi direct to send it to my S4 and made sure to put the backup file in the folder for JS backup and it worked perfectly. The only downside is that the texts I already had on my S4 got wiped out when i restored the backup.
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I had no problem restoring SMS/MMS with Titanium Backup on my S4. I had a backup from my galaxy nexus that was running CM10.1 and had no issue restoring with CM10.1 on my S4. Are you guys trying to restore from a custom ROM on your old phone to a TW ROM on the S4?
I am also having problem restoring SMS backups from TB. I am using Mybackup Pro to backup and restore my SMS/MMS.
I believe the issue is with touchwiz. TiBU can restore SMS but has issues with MMS. Delete any MMS from your old phone before you do a backup and it should restore the SMS fine. Or use a non TW ROM.

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