Root access on Samsung vs. HTC - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I own the HTC EVO 4G LTE and I'm rooted with S-off. I'm a previous EVO 4G flashaholic as well. I recently rooted my wife's Samsung Galaxy S2 and couldn't believe how much easier it was. A friend wants me to root his Galaxy Note and it appears to be just as easy. Why is there such a difference in processes? How can it be so much more difficult to gain root with S-off on a HTC phone as opposed to just a file download and a few clicks on a Samsung? I think this may affect my choice of phone on my next upgrade. The Galaxy S-4 is looking better all the time.
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[Q] To Galaxy S-II (Sprint) from Droid Charge (Verizon)

I am considering moving from Verizon to Sprint (for reasons unrelated any handset I have now or could get). If I move, this means getting rid of my Samsung Droid Charge, which I like a lot, and getting a phone on the Sprint network. As near as I can tell the Galaxy S-II (Epic) is the top of the line phone at Sprint, so that's what I would probably get.
Q. -- Are there any reasons *not* to buy a Galaxy S-II (Epic)?
Q. -- It looks like there's a cagillion ROMs for Galaxy S-II. Will all of them work on Sprint's version of it (the Epic, which is a CDMA phone)? Or are some ROMs only available for the GSM versions of the handsets?
Q. -- I've never used ICS, but I suppose that I'd install an ICS ROM. Which one or two is considered the best (favoring stability over speed)?
Q. -- I've been running a wireless tethering app on my Droid Charge, instead of paying Big V thirty bucks a month for tethering privileges. Assuming that I root a Galaxy S-II (Epic), will I be able to tether from it, without getting nabbed by Sprint? Will I need an outside app to do that or will any rooted Galaxy S-II do this?
Thanks in advance.
A. Sprint may be getting the Galaxy Nexus soon. If you like the phone, that may be one reason not to buy the SGS2. New phones are coming very soon within the months.
A. All roms here in the i9100 section will NOT work the Sprint SGS2. Check out the Epic 4G section of XDa:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=713
A. Ask the question there regarding a good rom. It may be suggested to use a gingerbread rom for better stability.
A. You can try using certain apps in google play for tether. Again, just confirm with the epic 4g section if sprint watches this or not.
Thank you, Kaze105.
The Droid Charge has one forum for its GSM and CDMA versions, so I didn't think to look for a different forum for the Epic variant of the Galaxy S-II. Sorry to post in the wrong place, but thanks for the info.
Would the Nexus, once available, be considered superior to the Galaxy S-II (any variant)?
FYI, Sprint SGS2 is actually the Epic 4g Touch. It's forum is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1281.
As far as comparison to the Nexus, depends on your point of view. Nexus has no external sd card slot, but does come with AOSP Android, so no TouchWiz. Screen is different as well, as well as camera. It's a subjective thing.

GSM question....without flashing/rooting for ATT in USA?

I read the massive post about how the Rezound can now work on a GSM network with flashing/rooting. My question is can it be done without doing either of those? Did the ICS update make it possible? I am asking these questions because my girlfriend wants the Rezound but has a contract with ATT. I'm not super tech savvy when it comes to these type of things, so if its an easy fix or the ICS update fixed it then I'd happily get her the phone. From everything I've read everybody seems to be extremely happy with it, I just switched from an iPhone to a One X and cant believe I ever picked up an iPhone.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
You might have to be rooted to get 3g to work.
Why would you get a phone for $700 from a different carrier, pay for an AT&T sim card, and go through all the trouble and issues of using a CDMA phone on a GSM network when you can get a One x for a third of the price, with LTE, and without any issues?
Yeah what he said ^
Have her get an HTC one X or wait till the One X+ hits. The one x kills the Rezound, and it's a lot of trouble to get 3G working on the Rezound

[Q] Flash a VirginMobile EvoV to Sprint?

Sorry for this question if it's been asked already. I see the thread on flashing evo3d to VM, but not other way.
Is there an easy way to flash a Virgin Mobile HTC Evo V to Sprint? I'm wondering if it is as easy as running the sprint RUU flash.
i'm happy with a rooted stock evo3d ROM with Wimax, is that possible?
There is a fire sale for the Evo V, so this looks viable to replace my OG EVO 4G.
Thanks.
edit: my bad,,, I'm reviewing the flash to VM thread and I forget that is will require a donor phone and the whole bunch of stuff. So i don't think this is as easy as running the RUU!!!

Think S-Off is possible?

So the developer version comes S-Off. But that is an AT&T phone. Not good on T-Mobile frequencies.
HTC Dev just unlocks the bootloader, still S-On.
Do any of you believe there will be a way to get S-Off on our non dev phones??
My last phone was the Sensation, S-Off was possible as long as you didn't use HTC Dev yet, well, back when I did it. I've skipped a couple of generations of HTC phones since then. Are there any indications from some of the more recent HTC's that S-Off is still a possibility without the need of the developer phone??
No phone is s-off.
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Pr20 said:
No phone is s-off.
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Yeah......except for a whole **** load of them.......lolwut?
Previous HTC Devices using Snapdragon processors were S-Off'd (I.e. U.S version of last years flagship whereas the international Tegra 3 never achieved S-Off). The developer edition is S-ON btw, AT&T doesn't get ALL the good things
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legend0fthefall said:
So the developer version comes S-Off. But that is an AT&T phone. Not good on T-Mobile frequencies.
HTC Dev just unlocks the bootloader, still S-On.
Do any of you believe there will be a way to get S-Off on our non dev phones??
My last phone was the Sensation, S-Off was possible as long as you didn't use HTC Dev yet, well, back when I did it. I've skipped a couple of generations of HTC phones since then. Are there any indications from some of the more recent HTC's that S-Off is still a possibility without the need of the developer phone??
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The ATT developer phone is not S-Off! It is unlocked bootloader and carrier only and no bloatware. You can do that yourself and not pay the extra price. It does have 64gb however but doesn't work on the t-mobile lte bands I believe. S-Off is not necessarily needed with TWRP Dumlock from what I understand.
frodoboy said:
The ATT developer phone is not S-Off! It is unlocked bootloader and carrier only and no bloatware. You can do that yourself and not pay the extra price. It does have 64gb however but doesn't work on the t-mobile lte bands I believe. S-Off is not necessarily needed with TWRP Dumlock from what I understand.
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It stupidly supports LTE on T-Mobile (AWS) frequency but doesn't support HSPA on AWS so no 3G/"4G" if you aren't in a 1900 refarm market. Kind of stupid planning on HTC's part... Especially since voice exclusively goes over AWS (HSPA) in areas that T-Mobile doesn't have 1900 licenses.
Is there really a point to S-OFF anymore? I haven't had an HTC since the Sensation either so I'm not sure about HTC developments, I went to Sammy.
EtherealRemnant said:
It stupidly supports LTE on T-Mobile (AWS) frequency but doesn't support HSPA on AWS so no 3G/"4G" if you aren't in a 1900 refarm market. Kind of stupid planning on HTC's part... Especially since voice exclusively goes over AWS (HSPA) in areas that T-Mobile doesn't have 1900 licenses.
Is there really a point to S-OFF anymore? I haven't had an HTC since the Sensation either so I'm not sure about HTC developments, I went to Sammy.
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Stupid unless there is a hardware difference between the T-Mobile and ATT radios. I don't think there is, but it is possible. People are assuming it is just firmware that can be flashed with a ROM.
As to S-Off, my last phone was an Amaze, and it required using a wire to short two places together under the battery cover. From what I have read, there are several HTC phones like that. But there is no way to get to those points in a One.
EtherealRemnant said:
It stupidly supports LTE on T-Mobile (AWS) frequency but doesn't support HSPA on AWS so no 3G/"4G" if you aren't in a 1900 refarm market. Kind of stupid planning on HTC's part... Especially since voice exclusively goes over AWS (HSPA) in areas that T-Mobile doesn't have 1900 licenses.
Is there really a point to S-OFF anymore? I haven't had an HTC since the Sensation either so I'm not sure about HTC developments, I went to Sammy.
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Without S-Off, it seems like the Root System is locked down. AdAway wont stick after reboot. And Busybox isn't able to install its binaries. When I try to convert Busybox as a system app, the phone just reboots. Also, when I try to delete something in the Root System (like the loud T-Mobile bootanimation sound), it causes a reboot also.
My last HTC phone was a G2/DZ and we had s-off via gfree method using command prompt which was very annoying. So hopefully we can get s-off one day. If not, then the next Nexus (5?) will be my next phone in fall/winter. And yes, I will still keep my H1. Its a very nice phone overall.
EDIT: I just read that a custom rom that allows system write will work. I guess stock carrier H1 roms are kinda locked down with system write issues. Will backup my current rom and test one of the International ROMs (even tho I heard about the possible radio/RIL+signal issues).
stevedebi said:
Stupid unless there is a hardware difference between the T-Mobile and ATT radios. I don't think there is, but it is possible. People are assuming it is just firmware that can be flashed with a ROM.
As to S-Off, my last phone was an Amaze, and it required using a wire to short two places together under the battery cover. From what I have read, there are several HTC phones like that. But there is no way to get to those points in a One.
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Well they did it with the Galaxy S3 (no LTE baseband on the T-Mobile version) so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it with the One as well.
EtherealRemnant said:
Well they did it with the Galaxy S3 (no LTE baseband on the T-Mobile version) so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it with the One as well.
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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Well they did it with the Galaxy S3 (no LTE baseband on the T-Mobile version) so it wouldn't surprise me if they did it with the One as well.
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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Did they use a "wire trick" with the S3?
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They used an MSM8260A chip which is an MSM8960 that doesn't support LTE in the T-Mobile S3. No hope for us unfortunately.
We will get soff eventually just wait. It's tooooooo early to be expecting that. Just be glad we have roms and all after the phone being out for only about a month worldwide.
I came from the quickly forgotten amaze and am very surprised over the amount of development this phone already has!
Sent from the one and only HTC One
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Yeah......except for a whole **** load of them.......lolwut?
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I meant no version of the HTC one (as he was talking about developer, at&t and T-Mobile) was s-off.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
I am on my HTC DNA s-off and the only thing we benefited from for having s-off is when you flash a custom kernel you don't have to fastboot flash the boot.img separately using a cmd prompt. Other than that it wasn't beneficial too much. It also opened the gates to brick your device easily. It will not hender Rom or custom kernel development. And the kernel is what allows you to write/delete system files. So once we see some kernel developments that allows the r/w to the system the issues where changes doesn't stick after reboot will be eliminated.
J-Hop2o6 said:
Without S-Off, it seems like the Root System is locked down. AdAway wont stick after reboot. And Busybox isn't able to install its binaries. When I try to convert Busybox as a system app, the phone just reboots. Also, when I try to delete something in the Root System (like the loud T-Mobile bootanimation sound), it causes a reboot also.
My last HTC phone was a G2/DZ and we had s-off via gfree method using command prompt which was very annoying. So hopefully we can get s-off one day. If not, then the next Nexus (5?) will be my next phone in fall/winter. And yes, I will still keep my H1. Its a very nice phone overall.
EDIT: I just read that a custom rom that allows system write will work. I guess stock carrier H1 roms are kinda locked down with system write issues. Will backup my current rom and test one of the International ROMs (even tho I heard about the possible radio/RIL+signal issues).
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I have the TMo One and have been using ARHD 7 for a few days and loving it. No signal issues here
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frhoward said:
I am on my HTC DNA s-off and the only thing we benefited from for having s-off is when you flash a custom kernel you don't have to fastboot flash the boot.img separately using a cmd prompt. Other than that it wasn't beneficial too much. It also opened the gates to brick your device easily. It will not hender Rom or custom kernel development. And the kernel is what allows you to write/delete system files. So once we see some kernel developments that allows the r/w to the system the issues where changes doesn't stick after reboot will be eliminated.
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Yea same for the EVO LTE - S-Off is def convenient and I would do it regardless, but if you were worried about messing up it's not a deal breaker to be s-on.
Seeing that S-OFF text on the bootloader screen does give me a weird warm and fuzzy feeling though
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[Q] HTC EVO 4G Keeps Turning Off

Few days ago i found a HTC EVO 4G Sprint I found out its been flashed to MetroPCS and rooted but it keeps turning off and vibrating 3 times then staying black screen maybe is missing some files since i found it with no sd card i tried putting a sd card but it wont read it. So my question is there away anyone can help me set it back to stock step by step. Thanks in advanced.
Here is some info i could get before it reboots
SUPERSONIC EVT3 SHIP S-ON (use to say S-OFF but not anymore)
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
Android Version
2.2
Baseband version
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel Version
2.6.32.27-netarchy-toastmod-4.3.2-cfs-nosbc-havs-less
Build Number
MetroDroid v2.2
Software number
3.70.651.1
Browser version
WebKit3.1
PRI Version
1.90_003
PRL Version
02004
You need to go to the EVO 4G forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-evo-4g
The EVO View 4G is a 7" tablet made by HTC for Sprint. http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/htc-evo-view-4g/4505-3126_7-34555254.html
It is a bit confusing for Sprint's line of HTC devices, much like Verizon's Droid line, where they use a similar naming convention.
There's the EVO 4G, the 4.3" smartphone.
Then there's the EVO Shift 4G, a smartphone with a physical keyboard.
Then there's the EVO View 4G, a tablet based on the HTC Flyer (which is the first device mentioned in this forum's title).
Then there's the EVO 4G LTE, a smartphone based on the HTC One X but modified to be the successor to the EVO 4G.

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