Upgrading - AT&T LG Optimus G

Ok all looking to upgrade to this phone after having and lg thrill for a year now. Is it as good as everyone says? Most important for me is the camera any good? Also battery life?? I'm not a big game player just use it to surf and messaging. My thrill is rooted with a custom rom and the battery for me sometimes last about 3 days. So that should tell you how much I use it. Thank for any info.

I probably average 3.5 hours screen on with 20 hours standby. Use is mostly browsing/Facebook/g+/tapatalk.
Camera is decent, but not as good as iPhone in low light. I'd call it middle of the road for current generation phones.
Overall I'd say it's an underrated device. We have a small but very dedicated Dev community...
Sent from my Optimus G using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Underrated phone for sure. My OG goes from 6am to 10pm with at least 25% left. Includes pandora or play music for an hour of traffic, bluetooth on all day, mobile hot spot for about an hour, lots of texting, 30mins of calls, playing modern war 3 or arcane legends for about 2 hours throughout the day and constant on/off time checking. not heavy use but gets me through the day well.
Although i'd suggest checking out the OG Pro. Its $79 on amazon. GOOD LUCK!
edit: here is the picture thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970535

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How is the battery life?

So for anyone who has one, had is the battery life? How many hours of use? Thanks
Bob
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well i guess you guys will know on 11/11/11 at 11:11AM.
sucks about the non-removable battery...
at least there's still the possibility of some sort of external battery device that'll connect to it's USB port.
my 2c
Mine is on its third charge, and its still getting better
charge overnight via AC,
unplug at 8am for a full workday
2 push email accounts with up to 100 emails a day (1 gmail, 1 exchange)
whatsapp messages all day
bluetooth on in the car for 2 hours a day
bit of browsing and RSS reading thru the day
10 minutes of calls
end of work day ~ 40%.
get to 20% at about 10pm
so enough to get thru a work day, if you need to go out at night, get a car charger or similar.
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my 2c....
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Very good and detailed information. Thanks!
if the battery goes that quickly with such minimal use, i'd be screwed big time. with my current setup(thunderbolt - no razr here till Friday) I have a 4500mAh extended battery + a 5000mAh external power pack(9500mAh total) I easily blow through that in less then a day.
I am a heavy data user though. constant HQ audio streaming, downloading, video streaming, etc. around 30GB/month on a slow month.
sephstyler said:
my 2c
Mine is on its third charge, and its still getting better
charge overnight via AC,
unplug at 8am for a full workday
2 push email accounts with up to 100 emails a day (1 gmail, 1 exchange)
whatsapp messages all day
bluetooth on in the car for 2 hours a day
bit of browsing and RSS reading thru the day
10 minutes of calls
end of work day ~ 40%.
get to 20% at about 10pm
so enough to get thru a work day, if you need to go out at night, get a car charger or similar.
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you're not on Verizon right? So not 4G/LTE?
That sounds like pretty good battery life to me on 3G!
yyhd said:
you're not on Verizon right? So not 4G/LTE?
That sounds like pretty good battery life to me on 3G!
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Its on 3G, no LTE on my network here in Oz.
Is LTE supposed to be better for the battery?
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voxigenboy said:
if the battery goes that quickly with such minimal use, i'd be screwed big time. with my current setup(thunderbolt - no razr here till Friday) I have a 4500mAh extended battery + a 5000mAh external power pack(9500mAh total) I easily blow through that in less then a day.
I am a heavy data user though. constant HQ audio streaming, downloading, video streaming, etc. around 30GB/month on a slow month.
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hahaha, you do sound like a real heavy user, I dont have time to stream anything as I'm replying to the 100 push emails in an average work day!
Ps. My screen on time would be higher than most due to the typing.
I'm an average user, don't stream much at all. Granted, it's only the first day, but I charged this baby up and have been using it nonstop for email, web, and text for close to 5 hours and I'm at 50%. Played a couple of short videos as well.
As I said, it's the first charge so I assume the life will get better over the next couple of days. But so far so good.
To the guy who burns through nearly 10,000 MaH a day, there's no reason in the world you should get a phone without a removable battery!!!!
Bob-o said:
So for anyone who has one, had is the battery life? How many hours of use? Thanks
Bob
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2 days with it now, getting better day after day... Smart Actions really a big add to the battery life.. On the first day, with out smart actions, It was over for 22 hours with good usage of internet/calls/display/music streaming from motocast etc..
And the next day, I have done some settings on smart actions, already 25 hours over, I still have 30% left though the same way I have used it on the first day... So, Thumbs-up Guys.... I expect it for another 4-5 hours as such we get it for 30 hours... That is better than any phone right now in the markret.. Smart Actions is the magic...
horrible battery life
I might be taking mine back. I've had it off the charger since 8:30AM, it is now 1:30 and the battery is at 30%. This is very unacceptable to me, especially since I really haven't done anything on it today. I really like the phone, but I can't have it charging all day.
nagnrik said:
2 days with it now, getting better day after day... Smart Actions really a big add to the battery life.. On the first day, with out smart actions, It was over for 22 hours with good usage of internet/calls/display/music streaming from motocast etc..
And the next day, I have done some settings on smart actions, already 25 hours over, I still have 30% left though the same way I have used it on the first day... So, Thumbs-up Guys.... I expect it for another 4-5 hours as such we get it for 30 hours... That is better than any phone right now in the markret.. Smart Actions is the magic...
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You aren't in an LTE area I'm assuming?
neonrt70 said:
I might be taking mine back. I've had it off the charger since 8:30AM, it is now 1:30 and the battery is at 30%. This is very unacceptable to me, especially since I really haven't done anything on it today. I really like the phone, but I can't have it charging all day.
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You are, I'm assuming?
I've been off the charger for 4 hours and 15 minutes, and I'm at 70%, with moderate use and no smart actions, with a mix of 4G, 3G, and Wifi (it switcehs between 4G and 3G a lot). I'm satisfied with those numbers, especially considering I'm upgrading from an Incredible.
I'd give it an understandable amount of battery life credit. Nothing spectacular but not bad either. This is compared to my sgs2.
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mine is after full battery and go work for 12 hours still have 80% (3G optus Australia)
-facebook
-whatsapp
-call
-internet
my Razr root and install cpu tuner (auto mode it will slow down the mobile and setup when screen off use only 2G )
and install auto manager memory (use fast mode will make Razr still fast when wake up phone) so happy
aecoo said:
mine is after full battery and go work for 12 hours still have 80% (3G optus Australia)
-facebook
-whatsapp
-call
-internet
my Razr root and install cpu tuner (auto mode it will slow down the mobile and setup when screen off use only 2G )
and install auto manager memory (use fast mode will make Razr still fast when wake up phone) so happy
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no lte......
I got about 8 hours of HEAVY use today, down to 20%.
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nagnrik said:
2 days with it now, getting better day after day... Smart Actions really a big add to the battery life.. On the first day, with out smart actions, It was over for 22 hours with good usage of internet/calls/display/music streaming from motocast etc..
And the next day, I have done some settings on smart actions, already 25 hours over, I still have 30% left though the same way I have used it on the first day... So, Thumbs-up Guys.... I expect it for another 4-5 hours as such we get it for 30 hours... That is better than any phone right now in the markret.. Smart Actions is the magic...
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Hi everyone!
I d like to ask you about smart actions..when I try to set a trigger based on location, I cannot because appares that I have "no location to view" and I can't find a way to set it...am I the only one who got this problem?
Sorry for my bad English..good morning to all!
I froze smart actions, it constanly runs and drains battery.
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Moving from the SGS2 to the Lumia.

A friend of mine has received a brand new Lumia a few days back as a gift. This guy happens to be an iOS/Android developer, and he doesn't give a damn about WP7, so he asked me if i wanted to swap my 5 months old GS2 for his Lumia, because he thinks it has no use to him. Sure, i know that this one is a big deal for sure, and that even if i don't like the phone i'll have no problem selling it making some good cash. Anyway what i'm asking you here is how does it feel moving from a top Android to a top WP7 device? Did anyone do that? What's your experience about it?
I already have an Omnia 7 so i know that WP7 is a good OS, but i was wondering basically how good this phone is as a daily driver compared to my GS2.
What will you be using the phone for? Games? Mere surfing and checking Facebook? Work? First thing I noticed when going from Galaxy S (not the 2nd) was that WP7 was way more stable and more importantly, the battery is just a beast, 24h with no charging and still having another 12h on it, despite watching movies for 3h on it.
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What will you be using the phone for? Games? Mere surfing and checking Facebook? Work? First thing I noticed when going from Galaxy S (not the 2nd) was that WP7 was way more stable and more importantly, the battery is just a beast, 24h with no charging and still having another 12h on it, despite watching movies for 3h on it.
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Well i'm not really a heavy gamer, but i play some game from time to time. My usage is pretty average i guess: browsing every now and then, gmail and twitter syncing, whatsapp, youtube, a movie sometimes but that's rare. Sound quality doesn't really matter because i already have a Cowon, can't beat that anyway Basically i want a reliable and solid phone that won't die at about 3 p.m. every day with my kind of usage.
My network did not have the Nokia Lumia in stock when it came to the end of my contract a few days back, the next best this was the SGS2, I sold S2 online and with the cash bought an unlocked Lumia.
Its a really, really nice phone and is very fast, there are a few bugs (firmware related) and we have been promised by Nokia for an update in the coming weeks. If I were you I would go for it, I did, and havent looked back
I cant say about the SGS bit i switched to the Lumia from iPhone 4 and im not regretting. This Os is better than iOS.
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I did this switch my self, SGS2 to Lumia 800, and to be honest, best phone switch I've done. The phone just works and I think, despite the tiny bugs in the firmware it's still among the best phones on the market.
There's plenty of games for WP7 and the native apps other than that work pretty well.
Tho I do miss Opera Mobile/Mini on it.
There should be a thread somewhere (yikes) here that explains weak point and strong points against iOS and Android. For the phone itself it's beautifully made, feels like a real piece of hardware in your hand. It weighs a bit more then expected but hardly an issue unless you have real trouble carrying stuff
The audio quality for me at least is great but I know some people had trouble with it.
The battery life is magnificent, haven't done any real tests but it easily lasts 24h despite heavy usage.
Camera is good but I expected better for going full-out with "Carl Zeiss Optics.."; but it might just be me not having a clue how to point-and-click the damn thing.
I love this lil bugger but Ice Cream Sandwich looks pretty damn sexy as well. I think you won't be disappointed by either phone.
Ok, i think i made up my mind in the end: tomorrow i'll meet my friend and grab the Lumia
I'll report back my first impressions, thanks everybody.
If your not bothered about rooting or the customisation of android then go ahead , wp7 is a much improved version of iOS, just as fast and sleek but with menus and a better looking UI. I have a lumia given to me as a work phone. Not my cup of tea personally , wouldn't dare swap my gnexus for it but has good features as well. Build quality is top notch , decent camera (Carl Zeiss lens) , very nice screen. Down sides , poor customisation apps are slow to use , not the best app choice , no developer support and its a new os. Also because it has the funding of windows and this is one of the most important areas to the company then you know its not going to go web os way , you are going to have a phone with updates and a lot of services. (Nokia maps/music/zune )
My advice is if your looking for a iPhone because you like the way it works (simplicity etc) then the lumia all the way as it works in a similar fashion. If you appreciate the way android works (rooting roms customisation and the actual os) then keep your s2 as it is still easily one of the best phones on the market.
I'd stick with the s2 but if you got a lumia I would doubt you would be dissapointed.
Hope the upsides and downsides I have listed my help you a little
J
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Good choice. My colleague here has the SGSII and gets around 16 hours battery life and has problems with apps crashing and the os lagging/random reboots. No such problems with the Lumia and I get 24 hours with heavy or 36 hours with light use.
I bought a Lumia 800 few days ago but still can't get to 24hrs.. I tried the diagnostics tool and get a 1505 mAh full charge, so I have no battery problems, but still after a few hours of heavy usage the battery dies(90% of times wi-fi is off!!!), tips?
Define heavy usage and define "few hours". I watched movies for 2-3h yesterday and then went to sleep, woke up and fiddled with the camera and checked Facebook regularly until now, 45% battery life remaining. Estimated time remaining: 14 hours. Time since last charge: 13 hours
I have never seen "remaining time 13hrs" ;-) this say's it all!
Now I have 27% with 3hours left.. I never use wifi and i deactivated (i think everywhere) GPS localisation for pictures and stuff like that..
for Heavy usage I mean mail check every 15/30 mins, 5/6 web pages opened per hour and half an hour of games every 8/9 hours with medium brightness... I don't even think that this is "heavy".. with my Nexus S (SLCD) i can get to 40/50hours with no problems and with the SAmoled one I can complete with no problem 1 day (18 to 24hours).. Is there any option that I have to set to get my battery to last enough to go to sleep with still 10/15% left? thanks
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I bought a Lumia 800 few days ago but still can't get to 24hrs.. I tried the diagnostics tool and get a 1505 mAh full charge, so I have no battery problems, but still after a few hours of heavy usage the battery dies(90% of times wi-fi is off!!!), tips?
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Same, my L800 is about a week old now. Battery life so far is not very good and nowhere near the advertised or GSMarena's 35/40 hours.
Right now: 88%, 12 hours remaining, 3 hours since last charge. Rather high battery drain considering low/moderate use. 1529 mAh full charge capacity.
No crazy apps that are always on using data connection except WhatsApp. I don't use twitter, I don't religiously check FB and RSS feeds are on manual refresh since I am in front of PC most of the day. Some calls, whatsapp and a few emails during the day.
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Same, my L800 is about a week old now. Battery life so far is not very good and nowhere near the advertised or GSMarena's 35/40 hours.
Right now: 88%, 12 hours remaining, 3 hours since last charge. Rather high battery drain considering low/moderate use. 1529 mAh full charge capacity.
No crazy apps that are always on using data connection except WhatsApp. I don't use twitter, I don't religiously check FB and RSS feeds are on manual refresh since I am in front of PC most of the day. Some calls, whatsapp and a few emails during the day.
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At the moment I got 94% remaining and "Estimated time remaining: 1 day 6 hours".
Sounds like you have a battery bug of some sort.
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At the moment I got 94% remaining and "Estimated time remaining: 1 day 6 hours".
Sounds like you have a battery bug of some sort.
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I certainly hope it is a bug and the upcoming update fixes the battery issues for all. There appears to be a massive disparity in L800s battery life reports. Some people have the confirmed but where battery doesn't fully charge.
What is your drain rate in Diagnostics? Idle with screen on is between 120-135 mA with occasional spikes into 200+ mA. What is your usage pattern, more or less?
Doing around 185-200 mA idle screen on. Phone syncs to gmail/facebook/calendar, I check it about once a hour, at night I watch movies for like 2-4h and during the day I try out my apps that I developed or other ppl's ones.
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Doing around 185-200 mA idle screen on. Phone syncs to gmail/facebook/calendar, I check it about once a hour, at night I watch movies for like 2-4h and during the day I try out my apps that I developed or other ppl's ones.
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Yes, must be some kind of battery bug.
Doing some math (1529 mAh battery as reported by my L800) and battery durations as provided by Nokia and GSM Arena test.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-lumia-800-battery-test-now-over-see-how-it-did-test/
Hours Drain (mA)
3G standby 265 5,77
GSM standby 335 4,56
Average 300 5,10
2G talk 13 117,62
3G talk 9,5 160,95
3G talk (GSM Arena) 8,42 181,59
Average 10,31 148,35
Music 55 27,8
Video 6,5 235,23
Video (GSM Arena) 5,87 260,48
Web Browsing (GSM Arena) 4,12 371,12
The phone should last an average person 18 hours assuming a typical 8 am - 2 am day ...
45 mins talk (110 mAh drained), 2-4 hours web/SNS (800-1200 mAh drained) and say some music for 2 hours at the gym (50-60 mAh drained) ... that still leaves 10+ hours of idle drain of around 5 mA according to Nokia.
@SvanteH: You phone's battery life is simply exceptional but do you actually get 24+ hours of usage out of it or are you down to below 10% at the end of the day?
I usually charge it every alternate night + some hour usb charging during the day
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I usually charge it every alternate night + some hour usb charging during the day
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I'm jealous of your L800's battery life, trumps mine by a large margin.
[UPDATE] Unplugged at 100% charge and it said 14 hours remaining. Sigh.

So realistically how's battery life?

I had a Rezound way back when, I have the Nexus now, bad battery life is no stranger to me, I have an upgrade next month and unless the Note 2 drops in price, I have others to choose from between the DNA, Maxx HD, and SGS3.
Obviously the Maxx wins battery but I'm looking at pure power also, so DNA would win there.
I'm looking through all options currently but I'm starting here.
I want to know a realistic idea of battery life/screen time on for this phone for someone who does not game and mostly does texts, web browsing, tapatalk, Google Now, and very little radio streaming.
Basically is it better than the Nexus?
Thanks.
-Sent from Marino's Galaxy Nexus-
My battery life is amazing I was scared of the battery life on this device but after using it for 3weeks I can say I get on average 10-12 hrs of use with about 3-4 hrs on screen time with a little of everything being used such as facebook, YouTube, espn scorecard, Google now, web browsing, and of course the xda app
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I get through a day just fine. Only time I see a bit of a stretch is on a heavier use day followed by a night out. A midday juice up relieves any worry, but you won't be tethered to a wall outlet like some other phones.
A typical day for me:
30 minutes of reading feeds on Google Currents on morning commute, 3-4 hours of music throughout the day, news check over lunch, 30-40 texts/emails during the day, and another 30 on Currents on the commute home. Usually back home with 50-60% left on the battery.
I came from the Rez, too, and was frankly amazed at the battery life on my DNA. It simply lasts twice as long as my Rezound - no kidding.
FWIW, I think there are at least a couple other threads on this same subject.
Since you don't game this phone will last you a day easy. With anywhere from 3-5 hours screen on time.
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I get about the same battery life as I do from my S3, which is about 14 hours on a full charge with 4 hours of on-screen time. Using aqua mail with 3 accounts, 1 gmail, sync is always on, weather updates every hour, about 1 hour of calls and about 30 minutes of killing zombies.
I've been getting battery life similar or slightly greater than my Rezound with an extended battery. Very impressed.
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My DNA has been off the charger for 12 hours and 50 minutes and I'm at 17 percent left... and I'm a pretty heavy user.

How long does your smartphone battery last?

I hear people smart phone last about 2 days before needing to charge. That's approximately 48 hours of phone staying on. Lets be realistic here. How many hours do you get if you browse/stream online videos for about 2 hours, play games for 2 hours and 20 minute of calling a couple of text and email. How long does your phone actually last? Mines last only 4/5 hours and this is using it very heavy. If your phone really do last more than a day, does that mean you barely touch it? This is just something I always have in mind.. I have the Optimus slider from virgin mobile, and the battery sucks but if I barely touch it, I can get about maybe 11 hours.. Lol, I know that's laughable.
3-4 days usually i am not a heavy user ,moderate browsing, calling and texting on the heavyish side, i don't play games or stream videos
battery capacity is very good at 3500 mAh and the phone is excellent in terms of draining battery on standby, barely anything.
it could probably go to 5th day if i cared to use Eco mode (battery saving mode) but i always charge the pone when it falls bellow 40%
all in all i am happy with it + this is my first smartphone ever so i think its good compared to flip phones i used in the past.

Heavy use endurance

Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+'s battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Decided to give this machine a full Saturday of being out around town. Woke up around 9am, phone was at 90%, did some errands, listening to podcasts, watched a lot of YouTube videos at my cigar lounge, streamed different news while in the car via BT, and at night walked the dog while listening to more podcasts via Samsung Galaxy buds. At 8pm I had about 19 hours of on time since last charge, nearly 5 hours of screen on time, and ended the day now at 19% before plugging the phone in while I showered and took out the trash and I'm back at 89%. I remember the days of my OG Droid or NEXUS phones and so this is just damn mind blowing. I will still get a ZERO LEMON for when I'm at the beach or Disney (live right by there in LA) as having that extra security of power just easies the mind but other than that this Note 10+5G is beastly.
7hrs SOT including over 6 hours of UHD youtube vanced playing and around 48% battery remaining. Brightness at MAX (using video enhancer).
That's more than decent in my book!
Unlocked USA version, Snapdragon 855 with 512GB storage.
I got same SOT around 7hrs+ note 10 plus USA tmobile carrier
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7hrs SOT including over 6 hours of UHD youtube vanced playing and around 48% battery remaining. Brightness at MAX (using video enhancer).
That's more than decent in my book!
Unlocked USA version, Snapdragon 855 with 512GB storage.
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Add to that the screen is huge and it runs very fast.
The more I play with the 10+, the more I like it.
In another day or so I'll be holding a smartphone 1 tb of fast storage. Outstanding.
Samsung finally got the Galaxy Buds software/firmware dailed in... what's not to like*?
*ok maybe just a tad of sarcasm...
I wish I had the Snapdragon model
Exynos is .....
i got this phone... i cant remember when i got this phone, but ive ran it constantly while at work, and usually its even gaming by itself when im not using it, few months ago i thought hm prolongued use.. may be an uh oh.
0 life difference, battery still op asf
Bought the note 10 plus last year. The battery is still amazing getting 7-8 hours of SOT. I have three emails in full sync. Location, GPS, and Bluetooth always on. Definitely sticking with this phone until the end
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Bought the note 10 plus last year. The battery is still amazing getting 7-8 hours of SOT. I have three emails in full sync. Location, GPS, and Bluetooth always on. Definitely sticking with this phone until the end
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hi.. may i ask what android version your using? pie? thanks
After heavy settings and packaging blocking mods my AT&T 10+ running on Pie uses 7-10% @ hour during internet vids, browsing, and gaming.
A 20% charge last 2-3 hours of SOT. Outstanding*.
*it wasn't always like this; at one point it was a hot running battery hog.
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I wish I had the Snapdragon model
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I have the Exynos version, i can get just on 6 hours SOT, gaming, YT Vanced, BT streaming etc.
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I have the Exynos version, i can get just on 6 hours SOT, gaming, YT Vanced, BT streaming etc.
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My Snapdragon AT&T variant did about the same or worse.
It was a hot running hog dog.
86+ blocked packages, plus extensive settings mods, plus disabling all power management and adding Karma firewall, a lot of time optimizing it... it now a fast, cool running machine with good battery life.
My advice is to play with it. Keep it running on Pie.
It may yet surprise you.
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My Snapdragon AT&T variant did about the same or worse.
It was a hot running hog dog.
86+ blocked packages, plus extensive settings mods, plus disabling all power management and adding Karma firewall, a lot of time optimizing it... it now a fast, cool running machine with good battery life.
My advice is to play with it. Keep it running on Pie.
It may yet surprise you.
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Is there a list anywhere of which packages to block?
*it wasn't always like this; at one point it was a hot running battery hog.
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