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I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
i share your dislike for the sense ui, but i think it might be worth waiting a few days for the 2.1 rom to be released.
No dates yet? I didnt even know there was going to be a 2.1 update. Older phones are usually forgotten and sidelined by HTC and the likes
I have experienced this and I think it's android system closing the app because of low memory... I could be wrong. I haven't looked into it but thats my guess.
alitech said:
I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
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I think maybe you are closing the app wrong try pressing the back button instead this closes the app and you end back on the screen you launched the app from
mifran
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
I just tried your way on mine running modaco 3.1 which app is causing the problem for you any app i have running when touch home button it closes and goes back to home page no blank screen or reboot needed
mifran
alitech said:
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
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Are you using a task killer to automatically kill tasks? If so, is Sense in the ignore list?
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Dave
alitech said:
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
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are you still using stock rom??? try using a custom one. a modaco one for example. also, why would you consider droid or wait for the x10 when the nexus is out
Have experienced the same issue using modaco roms.
In my case its when I close the MAIL, EXPLORER, or sometimes SETTINGS app from Advanced task manager.
For some reason those appas seem to be locked into the Sense UI somehow in these roms.
Cant be bothered with the effort of tracking, or fixing it, since I am waiting for the new roms, which hopefully will be better! ;-)
Thanks for your suggestions for moving on to MCR. I am a bit of a wuss when it comes to custom roms. I have never tried them as I am a bit of a noob. I can probably follow instructions, but they need to be written for a 5 year old.
I have heard great things about the MCR and really do want to give it a shot. I dont think it fixes the prevailing lag issue.
Off topic, but I was also reading up on overclocking but apparently no one has been able to achieve the full 528 Mhz on the Hero yet. Any further development I might have missed?
@foxmeister
I am using a task killer and can confirm that the sense UI is ignored. Task Killer is only ever used when I need to shut things down. Its not on autopilot.
@deeren
Nexus is out true, but its bog standard google. No sexy UI like the Sense. Not the best of reviews either. People have been harsh on google it seems. The papers, forums and blogs are rife with the worst google bashing in ages over the nexus. It looks ugly too.
Have you seen the X10 yet? Its gorgeous. The UI seems to be amazing. Same 1Ghz snapdragon, 8MP camera and what not. Beats the nexus hands down.
Full specs: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiax10#view=specifications
The droid is cool too, although I fear it has the same lag issues as the Hero. I hate lag. My Mrs has the Iphone 3GS and I have not seen any Android phone compare to the speed of the Iphone. Pretty sad.
As for Modaco Rom. Does anyone know where there is a written guide for 5 year olds?
The phone is not rooted or anything, just has the updated Rom from last Sep.
Install Kagudroid. Problem solved.
I had this problem as well! Htc Sense would keep crashing and it kept showing up with force close, each time I would have to turn off the phone and turn it back on to fix it.
Then I saw a thread on here (sorry, couldn't find it again), but if you are using ANY type of task manager, make sure you add "HTC Checkin Service" to exempt, so NEVER end that process.
Once I did that, my phone has NEVER crashed again! Works great!!
The weird thing is, htc sense doesn't crash right away after ending that process, it only crashes later on!
Had a question. I haven't own the rez for to long so I don't know if someone already brought this up but:
I already know you can take screen shots by holding power and home. But tonight i found a different way. It also lest you preview the picture too.
What I did was hold power and vol- it will take the shot and put you can preview it in the notification bar. Is this something new or has it bees there?
Cheated on my sexy assistant with a HTC ReZound.
Its been there in the ICS builds. Its an ICS function because the Gnex takes screenshots with Power + Com Down also.
Pretty cool having two different ways though.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW
Marcismo55 said:
Its been there in the ICS builds. Its an ICS function because the Gnex takes screenshots with Power + Com Down also.
Pretty cool having two different ways though.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW
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Thank you. I found this out while ninja grabbing my phone as it was falling. I like the preview part that's nice. It just took me forever to figure out where it was stored.
Cheated on my sexy assistant with a HTC ReZound.
just to confirm, this is only available on the ICS leak? not GB that comes stock correct?
That is correct..or any other ICS based rom.
Weird... My ICS based ROM doesn't do that. When I hit Power + VolDn, literally the volume goes down and then the screen turns off. Mine is based off the 4.0.1 leak.. was this added later into 4.0.3??
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Weird... My ICS based ROM doesn't do that. When I hit Power + VolDn, literally the volume goes down and then the screen turns off. Mine is based off the 4.0.1 leak.. was this added later into 4.0.3??
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It should work but it is also a timing thing...have to time it just right. Try hitting the power button just before Vol Down
Marcismo55 said:
It should work but it is also a timing thing...have to time it just right. Try hitting the power button just before Vol Down
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Nope. No luck
Are you guys sure this isn't a mod thats just been thrown into most of the custom ROMs? Cause it certainly just turns the screen off and lowers the volume one notch when I do this on my phone....
Yeah that does nothing for me on Ics
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I'm positive...it worked for me on both CleanRom 4.2 & RezRom and now even into Sense 4.0 by Newt.
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I'm positive...it worked for me on both CleanRom 4.2 & RezRom and now even into Sense 4.0 by Newt.
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Yeah, and every one of those is a custom ROM with added mods. I'm running ICS too, and it clearly doesn't work. This functionality must have been added in either by those devs as a mod, or into the stock software AFTER the initial 4.0.1 leak.
I have had this issue lately, my Rezound will freeze up and reboot randomly after taking a pic. Not every time, just randomly, here and there.
One time I couldn't get the phone to turn on until i did a battery pull.
anyone else experience this?
I Must be the only one, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
first thing i do when something like this happens to my phone is ruu.
then if still happens, i use warranty.
qudwis said:
first thing i do when something like this happens to my phone is ruu.
then if still happens, i use warranty.
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curious, do you do that with your computer every time you have a problem...
In this case the OP hasn't provided enough info about his device, what ROM, is the unit really hot... Has he flashed something new lately... He could be stock...
Via Rezound using XDA Premium
krelvinaz said:
curious, do you do that with your computer every time you have a problem...
In this case the OP hasn't provided enough info about his device, what ROM, is the unit really hot... Has he flashed something new lately... He could be stock...
Via Rezound using XDA Premium
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stock rom don't usually get random reboots so i assumed that either the rom or kernel have been changed and when you ruu the phone, usually the problems disappear.
and yes, for the question about computer.
when i get a problem with my computer, i backup my stuff to an external hard drive then i do a factory reset and start over.
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stock rom don't usually get random reboots so i assumed that either the rom or kernel have been changed and when you ruu the phone, usually the problems disappear.
and yes, for the question about computer.
when i get a problem with my computer, i backup my stuff to an external hard drive then i do a factory reset and start over.
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I just hit mine till it submits to my authority
Not rooted yet, I was going to root and flash Nil's ICS rom but the phone started getting flakey on me so I thought Id wait.
I have a replacement on the way from Verizon. This will be #3
Hopefully 3's a charm
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Not rooted yet, I was going to root and flash Nil's ICS rom but the phone started getting flakey on me so I thought Id wait.
I have a replacement on the way from Verizon. This will be #3
Hopefully 3's a charm
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i wish u a good luck, but if the third one gets another problem, u may get a fourth or want to ask for a different device like razr or galaxy nexus
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i wish u a good luck, but if the third one gets another problem, u may get a fourth or want to ask for a different device like razr or galaxy nexus
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my local Verizon store mgr told me if the 3rd phone has issues, then they will put me into another phone for free. I like sense and until HTC comes out with something else for Verizon, I dont think i'd swap out
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my local Verizon store mgr told me if the 3rd phone has issues, then they will put me into another phone for free. I like sense and until HTC comes out with something else for Verizon, I dont think i'd swap out
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i like sense too, but sense 3.5 is too laggy. i was really hoping for ics with sense 4.0, but sense 3.6 makes me sad.
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i like sense too, but sense 3.5 is too laggy. i was really hoping for ics with sense 4.0, but sense 3.6 makes me sad.
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I read that 3.6 will be better then 3.5, How much better? well see
After I get a phone that works and root it, Im sure the devs will have ICS w/ sense 4.0 baked in for our pleasure.
My Dinc came w/ sense 1.0 and i wound up with sense 3.5 on it before I retired it and it worked great w/ nil's Rom
Hitch_Itch said:
I read that 3.6 will be better then 3.5, How much better? well see
After I get a phone that works and root it, Im sure the devs will have ICS w/ sense 4.0 baked in for our pleasure.
My Dinc came w/ sense 1.0 and i wound up with sense 3.5 on it before I retired it and it worked great w/ nil's Rom
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well, sense 3.6 and up are ics so yes it's much better than 3.5 which is gb,
but sense 4.0 is totally different than 3.6. its like a new ui.
Hello fellow xda members, I'm having a slight problem with what seems to be HTC sense. I think? But everytime I'm in another app, and hit the back button or the home button, it goes to a dark screen and the small white box comes up saying "loading" and the spinning circles. Fed like this just started happening. I've powered the phone on and off. Restarted it. Nothing. Could there be a problem with one of my settings or the phone itself???? Help. I love this phone too much right now to bring it back to sprint.
Sent from my EVOLTE MILF Hunter.
You should try using a RUU that might help
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It might be a rogue app eating up all your ram.
"We're coming from a pure power source."
This was a problem on the One X also. It has to do with the overly aggressive multitasking.
toast22 said:
Hello fellow xda members, I'm having a slight problem with what seems to be HTC sense. I think? But everytime I'm in another app, and hit the back button or the home button, it goes to a dark screen and the small white box comes up saying "loading" and the spinning circles. Fed like this just started happening. I've powered the phone on and off. Restarted it. Nothing. Could there be a problem with one of my settings or the phone itself???? Help. I love this phone too much right now to bring it back to sprint.
Sent from my EVOLTE MILF Hunter.
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Before reimaging (RUU) or taking back to sprint, try these steps:
Repeated Sense crashes (com.htc.launcher or whatever) most often come from a rogue non-sense widget that you placed on one of your home screens. Try removing all widgets and see if you're more stable. Then, add them back one at a time until the problem reappears. Give yourself a good hour of testing between widgets. Most likely, as soon as you see a sense crash, the cause will have been that last widget you added.
Also, if you have brought a bunch of apps and data froward from your old phone, remember that you're on Ice Cream Sandwich now. Old apps might not play nicely. Start by deleting the old data and if they still don't play nice, delete the apps and wait for ICS-compatible new versions.
Hope some of these ideas help you out,
glg
I think its the multitasking as well, if it needs memory it seems to go ahead and auto kill sense. which makes no sense, as sense should be a system service, but whatever.
oddly enough,I never saw this problem until this morning when I installed the xda app. memory hog? it doesn't play nice with ics multitasking? I'd have thought xda app would be the best engineered app ever created! ha ! then I saw the dreaded 3-dot button bar and flashing ads. ha, that's ironic as wedding day rain
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I think its the multitasking as well, if it needs memory it seems to go ahead and auto kill sense. which makes no sense, as sense should be a system service, but whatever.
oddly enough,I never saw this problem until this morning when I installed the xda app. memory hog? it doesn't play nice with ics multitasking? I'd have thought xda app would be the best engineered app ever created! ha ! then I saw the dreaded 3-dot button bar and flashing ads. ha, that's ironic as wedding day rain
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Head over to the One X forum. There's plenty on it.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
http://blog.onthegosolutions.com/index.php/2012/05/01/hidden-power-saver-menu-htc-one-x/
this helps if its just during low power.
definitely go over to the one X forums, they have a fix for this, if you are rooted, that works for the evos too. there is a TON of stuff over there that works on our evos. thank you a million for the tip
I know alot of folks here have recently JTAG'd or just aquired an s-off dna. so now that you've have a chance to look at the scene... what do you prefer?
The Viper team won't do Sense 5 and the Sense 5 ROMS are basically stock. So from what i can tell, Sense 5 ROMS look like the same as the DNA unrooted but with the currents/blinkfeed widget.
I haven't tried the Viper ROMS yet, but will this week. I'm just curious on what people are settling on.
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I know alot of folks here have recently JTAG'd or just aquired an s-off dna. so now that you've have a chance to look at the scene... what do you prefer?
The Viper team won't do Sense 5 and the Sense 5 ROMS are basically stock. So from what i can tell, Sense 5 ROMS look like the same as the DNA unrooted but with the currents/blinkfeed widget.
I haven't tried the Viper ROMS yet, but will this week. I'm just curious on what people are settling on.
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I prefer Sense 5. I've tried both. Sense 5 is definitely not Sense 4 with a Blinkfeed widget...
Won't touch a sense 4 rom anymore. You can't make me.
Sense 5 is gorgeous IMHO.
chrisomnia1 said:
Won't touch a sense 4 rom anymore. You can't make me.
Sense 5 is gorgeous IMHO.
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Same story here.
And I honestly can't wait(even though I know I'll be waiting for a while) for viper on sense 5.
But @op, the only sense 5 rom you can call stock is joelzs stock one. All of the others are pretty customized.
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love sense 5
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love sense 5
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Would have to throw in with the sense 5 guys. I hope the Viper team is reading and makes the call. I know they are considering it.
Minus BlinkFeed, Sense 5 is quite nice.
I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
CharliesTheMan said:
I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
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I like Blinkfeed. I have it set to show all the tech sites and the news I like. It does a pretty good job of summarizing the highlights. Way better than the google CURRENTS app. Although i didn't hate currents either.
I loaded viper but don't think i gave it a chance. Ive tried NOS and now on Hatka sense. Love the toggle bar and circle widgets and the built in personal hotspot.
But I'll giving Viper another go for sure. Normally I'd have about 4 to 5 restores, but with only 16 gig, i know i can't do that. I'll finishing searching for the best sense5, then back it up and go for Viper.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
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I like Blinkfeed. I have it set to show all the tech sites and the news I like. It does a pretty good job of summarizing the highlights. Way better than the google CURRENTS app. Although i didn't hate currents either.
I loaded viper but don't think i gave it a chance. Ive tried NOS and now on Hatka sense. Love the toggle bar and circle widgets and the built in personal hotspot.
But I'll giving Viper another go for sure. Normally I'd have about 4 to 5 restores, but with only 16 gig, i know i can't do that. I'll finishing searching for the best sense5, then back it up and go for Viper.
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Currently still using Viper 1.1.3 with custom Kernel. Will update Viper soon though. I would try Sense 5 ROM but the connection in my location is just horrid.
Will NOT use Sense 5 until you can get rid of blinkfeed. Sense 4+ is good enough for me ViperDNA
lol. seems like most love Sense 5 but nobody loves blinkfeed.
I like it, it reminds me of a better 'CURRENTS'. But i'm gonna try VIPER soon,so i'm itching to see realworld customizations.
CharliesTheMan said:
I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
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Had the Viper installed for the last few days. all i can say is wow. Not missing sense 5 one bit. The amount of customizations on this rom are just sick. But more importantly, the ease of changing these via the venom tweaks menu buttons are amazing. Can change the status bar in nearly unlimited fashion, can change fonts, can change icons, etc... All of these things can be done of course on any rom, but it's all built in with menus and buttons here. Everyday i can change my phone in so many ways without having to flash. I change my mind alot and in the past 3 days, i haven't been bored.
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Had the Viper installed for the last few days. all i can say is wow. Not missing sense 5 one bit. The amount of customizations on this rom are just sick. But more importantly, the ease of changing these via the venom tweaks menu buttons are amazing. Can change the status bar in nearly unlimited fashion, can change fonts, can change icons, etc... All of these things can be done of course on any rom, but it's all built in with menus and buttons here. Everyday i can change my phone in so many ways without having to flash. I change my mind alot and in the past 3 days, i haven't been bored.
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^^This. Precisely the reason I'm using Viper. I keep finding something new every time I go into venom tweaks
Has anyone noticed increased battery life with a custom ROM and/or kernel other than stock? I'll do my own testing when I get JTAG back, but if there's a general trend I'd be interested in hearing about it.
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Has anyone noticed increased battery life with a custom ROM and/or kernel other than stock? I'll do my own testing when I get JTAG back, but if there's a general trend I'd be interested in hearing about it.
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My battery was superb on stock rom. Lasted about 2 days of normal use.
My battery on sense 5 roms with Beastmode kernal was about 1.5 days of normal use.
I'd say Viper on it's stock kernal has been about 1.2 days of normal use. Although normal use has gone up since i have a fun menu to play with and reboot more often.
I'll be searching for the best kernal/rom combo along with battery saving tips without reducing performance over the next few days.
I personally like blink feed, but hate the Sense 5 app drawer. Everything else in Sense 5 is absolutely beautiful, and I'm generally an AOSP purist type. I'm currently running newtoroot's ROM at 320dpi with Nova launcher (because I hate the app drawer more than I like blink feed - though I wish I knew how to make it work with Nova).
Basically, Sense 5 > Viper >>>> Sense 4+
I prefer Sense compared to the custom Roms of Viper and CM10. I love sense 5
I am a fan of the very clean and very simple sense 5. I don't need all the customization that comes with Viper but it works well regardless. Just depends on what you want from your rom.