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Does anyone understand exactly what this does other than create an extra step while dialing? I recently called T Mo to activate the Free WiFi Calling feature after finding out that if you don't specifically ask them to activate it, minutes are still used. When I had the My Faves plan I had my GV # as one of the 5 and because of that when I used GV Dialer the calls actually were free. The T Mo Rep. said that neither GV or GV Dialer does, or was ever intended to allow free calling. I was under the impression that by design the GV number somehow used Google's servers and therefore effectively "bypassed" the use of minutes in the data plan? Any insight would be appreciated. TIA...
Google voice calls are free, the tmob rep is clueless. It doesnt count toward your minutes. International calls are a different story.
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Google voice calls are free, the tmob rep is clueless. It doesnt count toward your minutes. International calls are a different story.
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That's what I said to her. But, the response was that all it is supposed to do is be the quivalent of a "spoof number". Every time I make a call and look at My Account, it's taking the minutes. So, on the assumption they are in fact wrong, how do I get them to change it up since it's logging minutes anyways?
I know there are other issues with GV. I have used it flawlessly on my old Hero, so I thought it would be the same on the 3d. I had integrated my Sprint number to GV in my GV settings(option #1), but did not use the GV app on the phone. I travel extensively, and ran into problems retrieving my GV messages. I did not always have reliable 3g or 4g service, thus unable to hear messages that were not transcribed properly.
I tried to disable GV and go back to the stock VVM, but now I cannot use my phone!!! The dialer will not connect to anything but *2, old GV number or 911!
A sprint tech tried to assign a dummy phone to my account, no luck. Seems my account is locked because of trying to remove GV. I have a SERO plan, may be part of the problem, but I haven't had issues til now.
Any help would be appreciated.
Craig
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I know there are other issues with GV. I have used it flawlessly on my old Hero, so I thought it would be the same on the 3d. I had integrated my Sprint number to GV in my GV settings(option #1), but did not use the GV app on the phone. I travel extensively, and ran into problems retrieving my GV messages. I did not always have reliable 3g or 4g service, thus unable to hear messages that were not transcribed properly.
I tried to disable GV and go back to the stock VVM, but now I cannot use my phone!!! The dialer will not connect to anything but *2, old GV number or 911!
Craig
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In short, when you say you disabled GV you mean that you went onto your google voice account on a computer and followed these steps:
1. Log into your computer
2. Go to Google.com/voice and sign in and jump to your Voice Settings
3. Now next to your number you want to click the DEACTIVATE SPRINT AND GOOGLE INTEGRATION (or something along those lines)
Yep, my Google account on a computer, the Sprint techs asked me 5 time to make sure. I have the option to integrate the number again, but as my phone will not receive a call on the Sprint network, I am stuck.
Yesterday and today, I was in a roaming area, my phone worked there to dial out, but no incoming calls or voice mail. When someone calls in, "we are unable to connect your call, please try again".
One tech tried to tell me it was a phone issue, I believe its a network issue.
Thanks again,
Craig
Not an expert here, but maybe you could try a hard reset on ur phone.
I tried the Google voice/Sprint integration and did not like it took over everything, I.e. phone, voice msg, and texting.
I however was able to un-integrate VIA GV website and uninstall/reinstall the app. Now just running it for voice mail.
Did some searching on xda prior to this and read some threads where people talked about conducting a hard reset to un-fuk GV issues.
Just a thought.
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I just noticed the part about the Sero plan. There is a Google Voice account code that needs to be active on your account for this to work. It shows up as a $0 charge under your phone, same place where your $10 premium data charge would show online.
Sprint Tech got me to Hard reset (factory reset), luckily I pulled the SD card just prior.
Just removed all reference to my cell number in GV needed to remove the # form forwarding. Called Sprint to remove SOC for GV. I can now make and receive calls!!!
I'm a little confused on SIP setup, mainly regarding the backend services (trunk / pbx ??). Anyone care to lay it out for a noob and possibly somewhere i can look at pricing for a single number w/ outbound calling abilities?
Is there a way to configure my current Sprint number to make free calls over WIFI or simply where cell coverage does not exist but a WIFI connection does?
Thanks in advance....
Bumping for knowledge.... Does anyone in here know about SIP setup?
No, you can not. You'd need to forward your sprint calls to another number, or do the Sprint Google Voice integration then add another SIP phone number to google voice to ring at the same time.
that way when someone calls your sprint number, it's integrated with google voice, and rings your separate VOIP number as well..
Catch is, you'll have to pay for a voip/sip account somewhere that gives you a number to forward to.
So all of a sudden I can't send Mms over wifi. Seriously??? What the hell. This isn't incredible sense 3 rims anymore god damnit
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Two minutes later it started sending. Wtf really?
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I never knew you could send over WiFi in the first place. You turn off all of your cell antenna's?
Mms is sent through data, always has been. You've probably never noticed when you've sent before a 3g or 4g signal pops up next to your wifi icon to allow sending and then disappears when done sending.
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I never knew you could send over WiFi in the first place. You turn off all of your cell antenna's?
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I have my old TBolt that is not activated (replaced with my Rezound). With a couple of market apps I can send email, text, and make calls all over wi-fi with the TBolt.
no, dear sirs, i must correct my statement, for you see i posted in a fit of rage.
lol but really, 3g always turns on when wifi is on to send an MMS. today, it woudln't, even though mobile network was on....then 3 minutes later, it just turned on and started to send lol but i HAD 3g the whole time in my house. i turned off wifi for 1 pic, and it sent...so it was a problem with the phone turning the 3g radio on to send.
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Mms is sent through data, always has been. You've probably never noticed when you've sent before a 3g or 4g signal pops up next to your wifi icon to allow sending and then disappears when done sending.
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I have my old TBolt that is not activated (replaced with my Rezound). With a couple of market apps I can send email, text, and make calls all over wi-fi with the TBolt.
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Does any of this mean the messages are not counting towards your texting totals? I don't see why they charge extra for texting, especially the amount that they charge. Does it put a big strain on the network or is a completely different thing or is it just because they can?
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Totally free. Use google voice to do it.
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Totally free. Use google voice to do it.
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Yeah, I've got two tabs open in Firefox now reading about google voice. I'm worried about the whole phone number thing. I don't want to possibly lose it somehow by porting it over and I also read that I may be breaking my contract with Verizon by porting it and don't want those fees for sure.
I'm new to Verizon as of 11/23 and bought my phone from Amazon. I'll have to see what they say about porting it to google voice. Still looking into it but I think I need the unlimited texting and that's $20/mo which seems excessive to me.
Would it work to test out google voice with their assigned number and forward calls there just to try it out? Would texts forward? I know I'd still get charged for the texting doing it that way. Where do you see/get the texts? Same as usual or is there a different interface?
You will have a location like you would in Gmail, etc. where all the texts would show up. Believe me, a lot of people use this and never have any problems with vzw. Of cource you don't tell vzw you are doing this. If you root your phone you don't tell vzw you did it. My daughter took a rooted phone to a vzw store this weekend to get it activated. It had a sense 3.5 rom on it and they didn't say a thing to her. VZW employees root their phones.
But if you are worried, don't do it.
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When you sign up for Google Voice they'll assign you a different phone number. This is your Google Voice number, and is only used for Google Voice calls and texts (more on that in a bit.) You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
You can set this new Google Voice number up to transfer all incoming calls to the phone number you registered with GV. You can add other phone lines to the account, as well, and set up rules as to who gets forwarded to which number (also by time, I believe, but never tried that.) You can set up your voicemail on your phone to use GV as the voicemail provider. This means when your phone rings for an incoming call, instead of going to Verizon's voicemail, it transfers it to your GV number's voicemail, which you can read either through an app on your phone, or by using your phone's voicemail dial, if you set it up in Phone options.
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
Now, here's the interesting thing, if you want to completely mask your "real" phone number on your phone, you can have Google Voice set up all your outgoing calls to go through your Google Voice number. They will still use Verizon's minutes, as I'm pretty sure all they are doing is having Verizon transfer the call directly into Google's telecom network which then "places" the call to whatever number you're calling. So by forwarding incoming calls people make to your GV number to your phone, and by making all your outgoing calls originate from your GV number, essentially you are hiding your mobile number, and providing yourself an extra layer of protection.
I don't think you can get full protection if you are using SMS, because while SMS to your GV number can forward to your phone, you can't "bounce" SMS from your phone through your GV number. If you reply to one of those, I believe it will go directly to the original sender. However, I haven't tested this, so I'm interested if anyone can confirm this or not.
And I say "protection" because Google Voice allows you to completely blacklist certain numbers. They will never be able to contact you via phone or text, if they don't know your real phone number. Useful if you have ex's that won't go away, or if you're just paranoid, like me.
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When you sign up for Google Voice they'll assign you a different phone number. This is your Google Voice number, and is only used for Google Voice calls and texts (more on that in a bit.) You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
You can set this new Google Voice number up to transfer all incoming calls to the phone number you registered with GV. You can add other phone lines to the account, as well, and set up rules as to who gets forwarded to which number (also by time, I believe, but never tried that.) You can set up your voicemail on your phone to use GV as the voicemail provider. This means when your phone rings for an incoming call, instead of going to Verizon's voicemail, it transfers it to your GV number's voicemail, which you can read either through an app on your phone, or by using your phone's voicemail dial, if you set it up in Phone options.
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
Now, here's the interesting thing, if you want to completely mask your "real" phone number on your phone, you can have Google Voice set up all your outgoing calls to go through your Google Voice number. They will still use Verizon's minutes, as I'm pretty sure all they are doing is having Verizon transfer the call directly into Google's telecom network which then "places" the call to whatever number you're calling. So by forwarding incoming calls people make to your GV number to your phone, and by making all your outgoing calls originate from your GV number, essentially you are hiding your mobile number, and providing yourself an extra layer of protection.
I don't think you can get full protection if you are using SMS, because while SMS to your GV number can forward to your phone, you can't "bounce" SMS from your phone through your GV number. If you reply to one of those, I believe it will go directly to the original sender. However, I haven't tested this, so I'm interested if anyone can confirm this or not.
And I say "protection" because Google Voice allows you to completely blacklist certain numbers. They will never be able to contact you via phone or text, if they don't know your real phone number. Useful if you have ex's that won't go away, or if you're just paranoid, like me.
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On some networks, GV outgoing calls (using your GV number as your caller ID number) are counted as call forwarding minutes. They were on T-Mobile. I can't say for sure that they are on VZW because I don't use my VZW account enough (I just pay the bill )
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On some networks, GV outgoing calls (using your GV number as your caller ID number) are counted as call forwarding minutes. They were on T-Mobile. I can't say for sure that they are on VZW because I don't use my VZW account enough (I just pay the bill )
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I don't think Big Red distinguishes those minutes from regular airtime minutes. I've made GV calls and seen the minutes show up as calls to my GV number.
lol we completely derailed the **** out of this thread ;D
but whatever, it must've just been a glitch..hasn't done it since!
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lol we completely derailed the **** out of this thread ;D
but whatever, it must've just been a glitch..hasn't done it since!
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Sorry jayochs! I blame jbhooh or whatever his name is, he brought it up.
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You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
yackety yack...
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
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j/k with the blahs and the yackety
Figured I didn't need to quote the whole thing but it was very useful info.
So yeah, I'm worried about ETF and not having to change my number with all my friends etc...
I'm kind of interested in the voicemail aspects but mostly I'm hoping to save the $20/mo. for texting. It really irks me that any carrier charges for text messages. So if I keep my number with Verizon I would still incur message charges through them, right?
Too bad I didn't know about this before, I could have ported my real number to google voice before I switched to Verizon from AT&T. Seems weird that they tie it to the number and not that I'm still keeping the line active. I'm going to confirm that with them.
google voice callback- not the most convenient method, but free calls. I use it when I get too close to overage.
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I like words. I use too many of them, often.
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I like words. I use too many of them, often.
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really annoying, i'm STILL getting issues where 3g will NOT kick in when wifi is on, to recieve or send. it's pissing me off now; this is JUST how the roms acted on the increidble. wtf?
Just wanted to throw this out here... for those of us who want to run CM10 but depend on WiFi calling because of coverage issues.. here's something I've done that works great
Basically we're going to be using Google Voice (For the phone provider) that's linked to a SIP account (SIP is the standard for VOIP), and we're going to use Conditional Call Forwarding to ensure calls go to our google voice number when we don't have server, but connected to WiFi.
First, you need a google voice account. Once you have created an account, make sure you log in/place a call at least once using Gmail (In the google voice phone settings, there's an option to have it forward calls to "Gmail", you want to make sure that's checked as well)
Okay, once you've done that, and you have made a test call... you need to sign up for this Google Voice SIP gateway https://simonics.com/gvgw/
This will, in a nutshell, establish a gateway between google voice's gmail call interface, and a SIP account. This will allow you to use a SIP account to make calls through your google voice number. Make sure you write down/store the information the Simonics gateway gives you once you sign up, you cant get it again!
After you register with the Simonics gateway, you will be given a SIP server, a username, a "secret" (Password), the registration string isn't important unless you're going to be using Asterisk, which we are not.
Now, once you have all this information, download the app CSipSimple (Best SIP client on android) https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jc2lwc2ltcGxlIl0.
(Optional)
You can also get the codec pack, which will give you a wider range of codecs to use.. but I find the default just fine.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5jc2lwc2ltcGxlLnBsdWdpbnMuY29kZWNzLnBhY2sxIl0.
Okay! Now that we have all that done, we're going to configure CSipSimple to connect to the Simonics google voice gateway. CSipSimple has great integration with the stock dialer. Open up CSipSimple... the initial config will pop up, here you can choose to integrate it with the Android dialer (which I recommend if you're replacing wifi calling), select "Available on WiFi" (Unless you want to use this over the cellular network as well, to save on minutes, only uses data) and you can also choose if you want to allow CSipSimple to operate over mobile networks (I'm allowed to use mobile, is the option name) pick your options, then save. Now you'll be presented with a list of VOIP providers etc.. scroll all the way down and select "Advanced" configuration.
Account name: Anything you want
Caller ID: Anything you want, but I suggest either your mobile # or your google voice number
Server: Whatever the Simonic's gateway provided you, this can be different so make sure you wrote all that down!
Username: What the Simonic's gateway provided you
SIP Authentication ID: Leave this blank, it will default to the username.
Password: the "Secret" the simonics gateway provided you
There will be a checkbox that asks to use TCP instead of UDP. If you're going to be taking incoming calls on this often, I'd recommend using TCP (it's much less battery intensive than UDP). UDP is the preferred method, but it will use a LOT more battery if you plan on being connected often.
Proxy: same exact thing here as "server", example: mine is gvgw3.simonics.com
Save that.
If everything is correct, after you save the account should register, and turn green showing "registered"
Okay! Now we can make calls using our google voice account, so let's test it and make sure it's working. Go ahead and hit "Accounts" at the top left (The "back" arrow) or simply hit the back softkey. This should take you to the dialer (This is CSipSimple's dailer, but CSipSimple has also integrated with the stock dialer, so when you make a call a menu will pop up asking if you want to use your Google Voice SIP gateway account, or regular mobile network.. if you don't want this menu every time you make a call, I suggest turning off the "I'm allowed to use mobile network" feature and turn off android dialer integration)
Dial this number: 1 354 415 1595 - This is what's called an ECHO test line, it's a regular land-line number.. you should hear a voice saying hit "1" for an ECHO test, "2" for music on hold. Hit the 1 key, and start talking. You should hear an echo of your voice... if you hear yourself talking, GREAT! Outgoing calls are working!
Now we want to configure what's called Conditional Call Forwarding/Unconditional Call Forwarding so that all calls to our mobile number will be forwarded to our google voice number when we do not have a signal (or in the case of unconditional, always), you can also set up what's Unconditional Call Forwarding... this is useful if you want to have calls forwarded to your google voice number no matter what. I usually turn off the radio when connected to WiFi though (saves a lot of battery), to ensure I don't have a mobile signal ****YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE TEXT MESSAGES IF YOU DO THIS****, so it's up to you if you want to turn the radio off or not. If you don't, you'll need to use unconditional call forwarding.
Now here's the deal: WIth T-Mobile, Conditional Call Forwarding (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT) is limited to a total of 500 minutes per billing cycle. It doesn't matter if you're on unlimited, 1000 minutes, whatever. You get a TOTAL of 500 Conditional Call Forwarding minutes each cycle. Yes, it sucks. But that's what we have to deal with if we want to use CM10 with functional wifi calling that rings you when someone calls your mobile number. If you want to avoid using these minutes, you can simple call the person back (Using your SIP account), or give your google voice # (instead of mobile number) when someone calls you, and have them call you right back. ALSO, Conditional Call Forwarding is what forwards calls to your voice mail, so if you use it, MAKE SURE TO SET IT BACK TO THE NUMBER IT WAS AT ORIGINALLY, OR CALLS WILL NOT GO TO YOUR VOICEMAIL. You can see what this number is by using the short code # # 62 # in your dialer, using your mobile network.
There's several modes of conditional call forwarding. Forward if BUSY, Forward if NO REPLY, Forward if NOT REACHABLE (no signal). You can set up forwarding to your google voice for any of these, but I only recommend NOT REACHABLE, because it simply doesn't make sense for the other two. There's several ways to configure call forwarding. I recommend using the stock dialer's built in feature, but you can also use Short Codes to activate it. Open the stock dialer, click the menu button, then settings. Near the bottom of the Settings, there should be a "Call Forwarding" option. In there you'll see all three forwading settings (Busy, not reachable, unanswered) as well as the original number it's set to (your voicemail). All you do is simply change the "Forward when unreachable" to your google voice number. Remember, for this to be in use 100% of the time you're on WiFi, you will have to turn off your cellular radio. If Text Messages are important to you, I recommend using UNCONDITIONAL (Always Forward in the dialer->forwarding settings).. this will have calls forwarded to your google voice number NO MATTER WHAT, so make sure you turn it off when you leave WiFi.
Unconditional Call Forwarding, on the other hand, deducts from the minute plan you subscribe to. You can still use the above methods to avoid using your minutes, but just be aware that if you use unconditional call forwarding it WILL deduct from your minute bucket.
Please be aware that you have to have a mobile signal to configure call forwarding, so you need to turn it on before you leave service/enter wifi, or simply always have Unconditional Forward if Not Reachable forwarded to your google voice number. Honestly, I use Google Voice for my voicemail as well, so I have all three of my forwards always set to my Google Voice number, you might want to consider this option as well, as it makes it much more seamless. You can use the Google Voice app for visual voicemail as well as free transcription, and it's much much better than T-Mobile's solution.
Here's a list of short codes for call forwarding: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4319
These are very useful if you plan on using Tasker to automate any of this (This is what I do, to make the process very seamless when I enter WiFi)
I know this isn't nearly as simple as the stock wifi calling solution, and it doesn't integrate nearly as well... but it works. Once you have this configured, you'll be able to receive/make calls on WiFi without issue. You'll also have a method of calling using your data connection that doesn't use minutes if you need that, as well. There's other ways to do this, such as using an app such as "Groove IP" or "Talkatone", and those work very well. I prefer the SIP gateway method, because I can configure a SIP softphone on any number of devices, including my android device. For those standalone apps such as "Groove IP", you would do pretty much the same thing, but you don't need the Sip Gateway, and you also wouldn't need CSipSimple (which I find is superior to all the other VoIP apps)... all you would do is simply configure Unconditional/Conditional call forwarding to your Google Voice number and use whatever app you want. You could also use Android's build in SIP functionality (it's built into the dialer!) But I find it very unreliable and couldn't get it to register reliably with the SIP gateway... but that might be a great option as well.
Please title this correctly.
This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
Notes:
1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
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This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
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1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional guys over on nal forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
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Well yeah I'm quite aware of the limitations. There's really no other viable alternative at the moment. Maybe someone can get the kineto app and libs from the sensation working but I highly doubt it, as the guys over on the sensation forum have been trying for a while now... Basically it's up to t mobiles, haha. I believe the only working device with jelly bean and wifi calling is the note 2, and sgs3....and once again its deeply embedded within the touchwiz framework.. The guys over on sgs3 forum even have a 350$ bounty for a non touchwiz working port. Doesn't look very promising but it's to be expected with something like uma... Maybe someone will figure it out. For someone who works in a complete t mobile dead zone, the only other viable option is sticking with Ics, and that's simply not something I want. Then again, I've always basically given my gvoice number out, and no MMS is very little impact considering you can send stuff over email, and every single carrier seems to have an email gateway... It is a major pain to have people send stuff to your Gmail acct. Instead of regular MMS, though,.... It's definitely not Ideal but it's a lot better than no service, an using ICS/sense builds.
I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
So yeah man, not many other options out there right now. If you're someone who relies on sms/MMS heavily and most contacts use your mobile number, I can definitely see where that would be an issue. Most people I communicate with on a daily basis are very tech oriented, so it's honestly not that big of a deal breaker (to me). I've just found that the Sip gateway and CSipSmple work orders of magnitude better than any stand alone app implementation. If you have any alternatives (besides using ics/sense builds) I'd love to know them, I was a huge user of wifi calling (about. 70% of all my calls) so i'm open to try everything.
Lol get your friends and family to get viber you get to keep your number and sms and MMS and since these days every one has a smart phone an app like viber is quite nice especially if everyone had it on their phones... That's what I use when I don't have signal and have told friends and family to reach me on viber if they can't otherwise
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I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
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If you use 'unconditional forward' then you will never get another call again. All your calls will be forwarded to G-Voice, which will send them to G-voicemail.
We'll see about wifi calling.
BTW, the Kineto/UMA app does run on our CM9. There's a kernel driver missing for GAN, and of course CM9 does not have data. It crashes on CM10 because of a missing native library for audio-recording...
The Movial/IMS app (From Amaze Stock) runs on CM10 but the setup screen is full of sense rubbish... However the Sense rubbish might be wrapp-able back to stock-Android, but that is a long-shot...
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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dilfatx said:
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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Yeah you can do that if you want, and it's definitely a much more simpler approach and it should be sufficient for most people.
But the SIP method gives you much more flexibility, like the option of using Speex/GSM codecs (which compensate for jitter and packet loss) while Groove IP hooks directly into the google talk API, thus you are stuck with G.711 mu-law codec, and that's not the best option all of the time. Using Speex/GSM codecs will give you slightly reduced call quality but much better reliability and they are much more resistant to congestion network situations or high latency.. it's a better calling experience all around IMO.
Also, using a SIP solution you're able to hook into an asterisk server if you so desire (which is important to me, personally) and manage multiple lines using one softphone.
At the end of the day though, if you have access to fast, reliable wifi whenever you need to make calls, Groove IP gets the job done just fine. But for someone who wants a lot more functionality and features, using the SIP gateway will provide that. Also, you can use it as a trunk for an asterisk server, for those of us who utilize that sort of thing.
Android stock dialer
Hi, thanks for sharing this! I was wondering if there's a way to configure this directly in Android's stock dialer (just as can be done with pbxes.org)? Thanks!