I know this may sound like a silly question, but it is one that I am seriously wondering about. Is it possible to Root your device without flashing a custom recovery and without a custom ROM?
theangryheretic said:
I know this may sound like a silly question, but it is one that I am seriously wondering about. Is it possible to Root your device without flashing a custom recovery and without a custom ROM?
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without a custom recovery i dont think so, but you dont have to flash a rom
theangryheretic said:
I know this may sound like a silly question, but it is one that I am seriously wondering about. Is it possible to Root your device without flashing a custom recovery and without a custom ROM?
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You have to unlock the device to root. I'd suggest revone, because it can be easily locked again.
You can flash the superuser file from a temporary recovery via ADB, without installing the recovery on your own phone. Sorry, I don't recall where I saw that, probably in the revone thread.
stevedebi said:
You have to unlock the device to root. I'd suggest revone, because it can be easily locked again.
You can flash the superuser file from a temporary recovery via ADB, without installing the recovery on your own phone. Sorry, I don't recall where I saw that, probably in the revone thread.
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Actually revone is not unlocking Ur phone, u r doing s-off with revone and after u s-off Ur One, reboot into bootloader and boot into a custom recovery, instead of flashing it. Then simply flash su zip from there then reboot Ur device. U will be s-off, locked bootloader, rooted but still stock.
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mugetsu666 said:
Actually revone is not unlocking Ur phone, u r doing s-off with revone and after u s-off Ur One, reboot into bootloader and boot into a custom recovery, instead of flashing it. Then simply flash su zip from there then reboot Ur device. U will be s-off, locked bootloader, rooted but still stock.
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My understanding is that when you enter "-u" on the command line with revone, that is unlocking the bootloader.
Booting into the custom recovery is what I mentioned before.
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stevedebi said:
My understanding is that when you enter "-u" on the command line with revone, that is unlocking the bootloader.
Booting into the custom recovery is what I mentioned before.
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But there is no need to unlock once u have s-off. I am s-off with revone and my bootloader is locked. I have my own tmo rom and can do whatever I please. And yes after u s-off Ur device with revone u can -u(unlock) -l(lock) not relock and u can -t(remove tampered flag) but u have to be patient and have a little bit of an idea of what u r doing. If u want to keep stock recovery and all but have su installed, u don't want to flash the recovery, u just want to boot into a custom recovery & flash su, that way once u reboot, Ur stock recovery will be intact, but u will be rooted. I can even use romtool box to later flash a custom recovery if u so wish, as long as u keep root.
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But there is no need to unlock once u have s-off. I am s-off with revone and my bootloader is locked. I have my own tmo rom and can do whatever I please. And yes after u s-off Ur device with revone u can -u(unlock) -l(lock) not relock and u can -t(remove tampered flag) but u have to be patient and have a little bit of an idea of what u r doing. If u want to keep stock recovery and all but have su installed, u don't want to flash the recovery, u just want to boot into a custom recovery & flash su, that way once u reboot, Ur stock recovery will be intact, but u will be rooted. I can even use romtool box to later flash a custom recovery if u so wish, as long as u keep root.
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My point was that the normal revone procedure includes unlocking the phone.
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My point was that the normal revone procedure includes unlocking the phone.
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No it doesn't, u can s-off Ur phone without having to unlock it! That's my point. I took stock, never been unlocked at all and used revone to s-off and never once did I have to unlock my bootloader. So there is No need to unlock!
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mugetsu666 said:
No it doesn't, u can s-off Ur phone without having to unlock it! That's my point. I took stock, never been unlocked at all and used revone to s-off and never once did I have to unlock my bootloader. So there is No need to unlock!
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If you read the OP in the revone thread, the command includes "-u". Are you saying that does not unlock the bootloader?
You can indeed do the revone without using the HTCDEV unlocking procedure, but that is not my point.
stevedebi said:
If you read the OP in the revone thread, the command includes "-u". Are you saying that does not unlock the bootloader?
You can indeed do the revone without using the HTCDEV unlocking procedure, but that is not my point.
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Oh OK I thought you were saying u need to unlock first, but there is No need to even unlock Ur bootloader at all with revone. Leave it locked. I do and have no issues. That's what I'm saying. If someone wants to just s-off and use su don't unlock Ur bootloader, it's a waste
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mugetsu666 said:
Oh OK I thought you were saying u need to unlock first, but there is No need to even unlock Ur bootloader at all with revone. Leave it locked. I do and have no issues. That's what I'm saying. If someone wants to just s-off and use su don't unlock Ur bootloader, it's a waste
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I agree completely. If I were to go the rooting route, I would use revone and not HTCDEV.
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How do I install a custom rom via the boot.img method as unlocked with HTCDEV method?
I've looked everywhere to try & find this answer myself but can't find a complete 'how to' guide on doing it? I have the HTC Flyer 16GB Wifi w HC if thats any help & i'm not rooted as the HBoot is not yet supported using the Revolutionary way???
Any help would be very well received.
Just for future reference, this should go in the Q&A section. But, have you ever used adb or fastboot? You have to flash the boot.img using fastboot.
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Whoops, sorry just realised there is a Q&A Section.
I have used adb & fastboot & have a Desire HD & have installed customs roms on that & I have been trying to install a custom one of my Flyer but can't seem to even thou I am unlocked via the HTCDEV method.
I have downloaded a custom rom in zip format, so if I extract the files to a folder on my PC, where adb etc are, & then do the boot.img from there will this then install the custom rom onto my flyer??
Thanksyou for answering.
What you need to do is download your ROM and place it on your sdcard. Flash it like you would any other ROM. Now type in 'adb reboot bootloader' and make sure your tablet is in fastboot mode. Now take the boot.img of the ROM and place it in the same directory that you have fastboot. For me that would be: c:/android-sdk-windows/tools
Now, making sure your tablet is in fastboot mode and that you cd'd to the directory for fastboot, type in: fastboot flash boot boot.img
Now just reboot and you should be running a custom ROM
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Really, I don't understand why you'd go through all the hassle of using the unlock method. It's not that much extra to S-OFF and have installs work directly form recovery.
globatron said:
Really, I don't understand why you'd go through all the hassle of using the unlock method. It's not that much extra to S-OFF and have installs work directly form recovery.
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This is true.
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globatron said:
Really, I don't understand why you'd go through all the hassle of using the unlock method. It's not that much extra to S-OFF and have installs work directly form recovery.
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Agree also. HTC Unlock looks like a hassle all around, and warranty is officially voided.
Thankyou all for your replies & i'll try it out & see how I get on.
Had to use the HTCDEV unlock as my Hboot version is not currently supported by all other unlock methods as it 1.11.0011.
Thanks again
Unlock the bootloader has nothing to do with your hboot version, just try it.
s-off doesn't work with your 1.11.0011
so you just need
unlock-------flash cwm recovery for 3.2------flash a custom rom------fastboot flash boot boot.img(the boot.img is unzipped from this custom rom)----do not forget to wipe
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Unlock the bootloader has nothing to do with your hboot version, just try it.
s-off doesn't work with your 1.11.0011
so you just need
unlock-------flash cwm recovery for 3.2------flash a custom rom------fastboot flash boot boot.img(the boot.img is unzipped from this custom rom)----do not forget to wipe
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Utter nonsense. The bootloader version does matter for unlock. And it is possible to get S-OFF even if you have this hboot, it's not a direct S-OFF but it is possible and relatively easy to do.
globatron said:
And it is possible to get S-OFF even if you have this hboot, it's not a direct S-OFF but it is possible and relatively easy to do.
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Can you please explain or give me a link? I have also HBoot 1.11.0011.
i did this procedure
Da_nao_yan said:
Unlock the bootloader has nothing to do with your hboot version, just try it.
s-off doesn't work with your 1.11.0011
so you just need
unlock-------flash cwm recovery for 3.2------flash a custom rom------fastboot flash boot boot.img(the boot.img is unzipped from this custom rom)----do not forget to wipe
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Hi, i do this yesterday unlock through HTCDEV
- then flash cwm recovery
- flash a custom rom
but i got Wifi Error, so i read the Forum and looking for the new suggestions then I saw that I must do a "fastboot flash boot boot.img" after that my Flyer didnt boot anymore. But still I can go to HBoot and Recovery.
I dont know, if I do something wrong here.
My Flyer: S-ON, Hboot 1.11.0011
Hope, somebody can help me. Thank you
devil-77 said:
Can you please explain or give me a link? I have also HBoot 1.11.0011.
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Do globatron's procedure, but do download the exact RUU...this is important. It works in my HTC Flyer have the 1.10.0000 now GB.
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Is there a command to unlock the bootloader with s-off without having to wipe all of my data and everything?
There is no need to unlock. S-off is all that you need. It can do anything.
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cdexsw said:
There is no need to unlock. S-off is all that you need. It can do anything.
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It actually would not let me flash recovery without having the bootloader unlocked again. It was disappointing and erased my data... grrr
cdexsw said:
There is no need to unlock. S-off is all that you need. It can do anything.
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You need root to get s-off. The only people who had root were people on the shipped rom when the phone came out. Every OTA since has not had root, let alone temp root that the shipped rom had. So you absolutely need HTC Dev unlock to get s-off, and yes if you havent done it yet, it will wipe the phone. Thems the breaks.
quepaso said:
You need root to get s-off. The only people who had root were people on the shipped rom when the phone came out. Every OTA since has not had root, let alone temp root that the shipped rom had. So you absolutely need HTC Dev unlock to get s-off, and yes if you havent done it yet, it will wipe the phone. Thems the breaks.
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Not what I meant. I already had s-off and it relocked. It then would not allow me to install amon ra. I was asking if there was a different fastboot command to just change it to unlock now since we have soff.
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I had to unlock too but reused my token.
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code. is the command
Edit: My bad this probably isn't what you were looking for.
I didn't have to re-unlock.
I asked about this in the discussion thread but was never answered.
I just fastboot flash recovery .zip
and HBOOT flashed my roms boot.img and I was back with the addition of S-OFF
I've flashed several Roms since, while my HBOOT still says Tampered, Locked, S-OFF.
Finally, since I'm on ICS, I flashed the Juopunutbear modified HBOOT.
Everything seems to be open and working fine without re-unlocking.
Slacker101 said:
Is there a command to unlock the bootloader with s-off without having to wipe all of my data and everything?
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Not sure if you still need this but i just used the rezound AIO to flash amon again right after and worked fine no unlock. Tho I still have my bin file if I need it.
afaik if you did s-off and you're on GB firmware, you need the ENG Hboot to flash recoveries using fastboot commands, otherwise you have to use PH98IMG.zip's... but that's just what i see, i'm not 100%.
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
I get what your saying kinda. But what I wonder is if I could flash my phone without having to root to get it to do certain things. Would there be a benefit for flashing instead of rooting? Such as would I be able to use custom themes or roms or anything along those lines JUST by flashing? Is there anything I can do by only flashing my Evo 3D?
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is your devise cdma or is it a gsm ethere way you would have to unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery and then you can flash a rom and if you want full nand unlock and s off then you would need to down grade your hboot number as well
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
I believe you will have to root your phone or the flash a rom because your hboot has to be s off for you to flash recovery which would let you flash a rom
I would recommend close ones downgrade iso . 1.5 can only be unlocked using htcs hboot unlock. and to be honest I don't like them knowing what I do with my phone .follow the steps on his guide and you should be able to downgrade to 1.4
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louforgiveno said:
Yes, you should root before flash....if reversed, you might have to flash again.
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its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
@bubbylee,
See the Hboot 1.50 guide in my signature if ur not planning on the Hboot downgrade to 1.40 yet. Lots of details/answers to common questions to help u along.
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BUBBYLEE said:
Ok so from my understanding of what you said, all i have to do is unlock the bootloader with htcdev.com, then use something called 4ext, then im good to go and can flash roms? Also, once i do this will i be able to intall some kind of screen rotation animation to my evo3d? I would like a nice animation and so would that be possible to do if i follow the above steps? and thank all of you for your help.
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Yes you can do everything what hboot 1.4 users can, except flashing radios/firmware.....I still suggest to downgrade the hboot as it makes your phone fully unlocked . Hboot 1.5 needs PC for flashing some stuffs. You cannot flash PG86IMGs without relocking your bootloader if you are on hbooot 1.5 .
For transition effects and anims , there is an app in the play store which works on every phone and every Rom provided your phone Rom is rooted......
NOTE: Unlocking bootloader will void some parts of your warranty...
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Hi there BUBBYLEE. Check out the CD in my signature. That should help you with the downgrade. No installation of Linux required.
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BUBBYLEE said:
This stuff is confusing and complicated lol I folowed the guide and ive hit a spot where the guide says i need a linux pc to downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 i believe. So no go lol i only have windows. but its poible for me to flash without downgrading right? ill take that route if possible.
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Yeah its so easy , try closeone's disc. it a live cd meaning you don't need to install Linux, just insert the disc and Linux will boot up. I downgraded hboot too and I had never used Linux before .
BUBBYLEE said:
Hello. I'm new to the whole flashing and rooting process. Last time I hacked a phone was waaayyyy back in 2004 or 2005 when I used to hack my Motorola v505. The question I have is do you have to root your phone before flashing it? If not, what exactly can I do after flashing my phone?
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mnomaanw said:
its opposite LOL.......you unlock bootloader first , then flash recovery and then flash any Rom or a flashable superuser.zip which will root your phone.
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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I thought he wanted to "flash" to another carrier LOL.....
@bubbylee obviously ignore my first post, thought you were asking something else.
mnomaanw said:
@OP
You can unlock your bootloader using htcdev.com if you don't want to downgrade.
After unlocking, I suggest to flash 4ext recovery as it can flash boot partitions even though you are s-on....then you can flash any custom ROMs of your choice .You don't need root to flash ROMs or other stuffs , you need a unlocked bootloader to flash. Root is just having superuser app and binary in your phones system ... Once your bootloader is unlocked you can flash any ROMs . All custom ROMs here comes pre rooted
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So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
BUBBYLEE said:
My Evo 3D is cdma I believe. And being that I purchased it December 26 I believe that the hboot is the 1.50. So assuming I downgrade and unlock the bootloader all I have to do is flash to use a custom rom? No root?
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Well in my understanding CDMA doesn't need a SIM card and GSM does. So maybe that'll help you answer the question
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BUBBYLEE said:
So are you saying that if i flash then install a custom pre rooted rom from here that my phone will be rooted just from flashing a pre rooted rom? Also, I believe I'm going to go the HTC.dev route. Seems simple enough and make little more sense to me.
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The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Jimlarck said:
The HTC dev method gave me problems with the WiMAX so if you don't use or have WiMAX use the HTC dev method. But again Closeone's bootable linux live cd is just as easy as HTC dev and is getting easier. Plus , its better to have s-off since its easier to flash roms (Unless you have 4ext recovery) then you'll be in hboot 1.4 and you could update (using another method so that you don't lose s-off) back to hboot 1.5. . If you want I'll give you links to make you're life easier.
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Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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If you've decided to use the downgrade method, step-by-step instructions are in post #3 of the thread in my signature. If you need any help, you're welcome to post in the thread.
It's not as scary as it looks, but it's something where you'll have to follow directions carefully.
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BUBBYLEE said:
Ok lol I think Ive grown the balls to flash/root my evo3d. I'm as ready now as I'll ever be. Im ready lol so I just follow the guide and im good to go hopefully. lets do this
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Ok, I'll be online and constantly checking the thread so if any questions post here. And use Closeone's cd, Highly recommended
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I'm on 3.14 stock ruu, unlocked bootloader, amonra in the recovery
do I need to flash something like the "3.14 stock deodexxed root"
or can I just finally try to s-off?
thanks <3
Watercycle said:
I'm on 3.14 stock ruu, unlocked bootloader, amonra in the recovery
do I need to flash something like the "3.14 stock deodexxed root"
or can I just finally try to s-off?
thanks <3
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the su binary MUST be present in the system for the S-OFF process to work correctly, so yes, you must root.
Since you have Amon ra installed, just boot into that, go to the developer menu and install the su binary, then do S-OFF
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the su binary MUST be present in the system for the S-OFF process to work correctly, so yes, you must root.
Since you have Amon ra installed, just boot into that, go to the developer menu and install the su binary, then do S-OFF
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unguarded or super user? and thank you i didn't know about that =)
Watercycle said:
unguarded or super user? and thank you i didn't know about that =)
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Sueperuser not unguarded
this is the most rediculous process ever! (currently trying to wire trick) I'VE USED 2 DARN TYPES OF WIRE AND A PAPERCLIP AND NONE OF THEM DO ANYTHING
oh god, whew... i was running around the house making a wire out of everything...
but after trying the paperclip for like the 8th time (which took a half hour to find) it seems to have worked
S-off is the most stressful android activity ever >XO
thanks you two <3
You did use the ics jb hboot right? Make sure you can see the sd card? And don't unlock your phone again. You would need to s-on then s-off again for it to say locked. I just woke up and saw your new posts, its been a long day but I see you got help. Welcome to the club, glad it finally worked.
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I used the Hboot that came with 3.14 Ruu, if S-off took the "relocked" away then i'm happy, if it didn't, oh well, but I was unlocked when I started the process =o
As long as you don't unlock it after s-off, it will be locked again ( although it says "juopunutbear" instead of "locked" if you're using their modified boot. Just flash a stock one and it will say locked)
I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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The patched hboot adds some advanced fast boot commands. However everything will work without the patched hboot. You don't need it its just nice to have
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I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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The juoponut bear hboot is an eng hboot that allows for adb commands and other options most people will not need.
The h boot issue is thus......in the event you want your phone returned to stock (s on and locked in downloader), after gaining s off do NOT HTC unlock the phone.
If you don't unlock it and want to return to stock you basically run a ruu, and then write the secure flag back to s on (scotty123 has a thread how to do this). After which point you phone will be on stock Rom, recovery and h boot will say locked and s on. Just like the day you first got the phone.
If you unlock after s off (as an early adopter I did) your bootloader will only say unlocked or relocked. You can run ruus, and write secure flag to s on.....BUT your hboot will say relocked or unlocked. And to a trained eye, someone can tell you tampered with it (running Roma,etc)
In my case, I had to follow scottys thread, s on, and do the s off process all over again. Early on we thought flashing a ruu would change the hboot status from relocked to locked. However we were mistaken.
So, don't unlock after s off.
If you can't run adb commands with your h boot and don't want to flash an eng hboot, use the ph98img.zip method to flash things (ex recovery, hboots, radios).
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ericsignals said:
The juoponut bear hboot is an eng hboot that allows for adb commands and other options most people will not need.
The h boot issue is thus......in the event you want your phone returned to stock (s on and locked in downloader), after gaining s off do NOT HTC unlock the phone.
If you don't unlock it and want to return to stock you basically run a ruu, and then write the secure flag back to s on (scotty123 has a thread how to do this). After which point you phone will be on stock Rom, recovery and h boot will say locked and s on. Just like the day you first got the phone.
If you unlock after s off (as an early adopter I did) your bootloader will only say unlocked or relocked. You can run ruus, and write secure flag to s on.....BUT your hboot will say relocked or unlocked. And to a trained eye, someone can tell you tampered with it (running Roma,etc)
In my case, I had to follow scottys thread, s on, and do the s off process all over again. Early on we thought flashing a ruu would change the hboot status from relocked to locked. However we were mistaken.
So, don't unlock after s off.
If you can't run adb commands with your h boot and don't want to flash an eng hboot, use the ph98img.zip method to flash things (ex recovery, hboots, radios).
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Well everything is right but the first part, the modified hboot allows you to perform fastboot commands that would otherwise require you to unlock the bootloader
Fastboot flash, fastboot boot... Etc.
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superchilpil said:
Well everything is right but the first part, the modified hboot allows you to perform fastboot commands that would otherwise require you to unlock the bootloader
Fastboot flash, fastboot boot... Etc.
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Forgot to add that part when I typed the adb part ....thanks for correcting me.:thumbup:
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oh dear, so without that Hboot command prompt won't be able to fastboot into recovery and whatnot?
Watercycle said:
oh dear, so without that Hboot command prompt won't be able to fastboot into recovery and whatnot?
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Yes, but there are ways around that
I personally just package my own ph98img.zips if I need to flash a kernel or recovery after doing something dumb
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If you want to add the JB Hboot, it is very simple. You can go to their site and just download the most recent hboot. You must know if you are ICS or GB. But go here: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/ and download the right one, either vigor ics or vigor gb. Put that in the folder where you had put the original controlbear program and follow these instructions:
To flash the JuopunutBear hboots
Put the phone in fastboot mode, connected to the pc and enter the following commands
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot flash zip jb_hboot.zip
Thats all there is to it and you can now benefit from the JB Hboot.
I thought you needed to be unlocked with htc dev to gain s-off? Now I'm hearing that I should not unlock my phone before I s-off?
Yes you need to be unlocked. It's part of the prerequisites. Please read then reread the thread in general "s-off with instructions...it's official". Understand how to avoid problems and fix them if they arise. It's very easy but it's like people half ass reading the instructions recently. Don't be that person.
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th3rapist said:
I thought you needed to be unlocked with htc dev to gain s-off? Now I'm hearing that I should not unlock my phone before I s-off?
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You have to unlock befor you s off, afterwards it's redundant to do so. But some people have
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doubleshot, ruby ICS, vigor ICS, holiday ICS, pyramid ICS?
which one? haha
I don't mind don't 1 more small flash that will probably be necessary in the future as long as it doesn't screw my current rom up
I am very new to this and did something as my friend said, really stupid. I rooted my Evo LTE with the one click root method. This installed TWRP Recovery. After a few days I found a ROM I wanted to install. I installed ROM manager and along with this it installed Clockworkmod. I tried to install the rom from the zip I put on the root but clockwork opens up as my recovery instead of TWRP and does not run any commands. So after trying to get clockwordmod to work and couldn't... I decided to unroot phone and just re-root (yes very stupid). So after unrooting via SuperUser, I tried to install the RUU and it would'nt install as bootloader/recovery not work. I have no clue what to do
Are you running the ruu on your pc? It's not something you flash on your phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
cwm recovery dont work on the evo LTE.. u have to flash the twrp 2.2.0 recovery.. yea the ruu is like a tool.. plug ya phone in and run it.. very easy
metalfan78 said:
Are you running the ruu on your pc? It's not something you flash on your phone.
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I am trying to install the RUU through my PC. But keeps getting error message that it failed right after trying to send to bootloader
evo401 said:
cwm recovery dont work on the evo LTE.. u have to flash the twrp 2.2.0 recovery.. yea the ruu is like a tool.. plug ya phone in and run it.. very easy
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I've been trying that and it keeps failing...
You have to relock your bootloader to run an ruu.
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Try to flash TWRP again. If your able to do this then running a ruu is not nessary. As stated before clockworkmod recovery has problems on the Evo LTE.
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Robert542 said:
Try to flash TWRP again. If your able to do this then running a ruu is not nessary. As stated before clockworkmod recovery has problems on the Evo LTE.
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Thank you thank you, I was able to relock the bootloader last night. Tonight I will try and reflash TWRP. This has been a good learning experience so far. At least i didn't brick the phone As the phone is no longer rooted do i need to root it as part of my flashing TWRP? The one click root method installs TWRP as part of the whole process.
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Thank you thank you, I was able to relock the bootloader last night. Tonight I will try and reflash TWRP. This has been a good learning experience so far. At least i didn't brick the phone As the phone is no longer rooted do i need to root it as part of my flashing TWRP? The one click root method installs TWRP as part of the whole process.
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You do not need to be rooted to flash a recovery but your bootloader needs to be unlocked. If your unlocking your bootloader using htcdev method then you don't need to be rooted. If your unlocking your bootloader using lazypanda method then you need root or temp root before you can run lazypanda.
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Robert542 said:
You do not need to be rooted to flash a recovery but your bootloader needs to be unlocked. If your unlocking your bootloader using htcdev method then you don't need to be rooted. If your unlocking your bootloader using lazypanda method then you need root or temp root before you can run lazypanda.
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I got the phone all fixed, locked the bootloader then went through all the steps of unlocking, installing custom recovery and rooting with a custom ROM. Thank you for all your help, this was a grea learning experience and thank god i didn't brick my phone in the process
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I got the phone all fixed, locked the bootloader then went through all the steps of unlocking, installing custom recovery and rooting with a custom ROM. Thank you for all your help, this was a grea learning experience and thank god i didn't brick my phone in the process
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Glad everything worked out for you.
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i was using this method, roter froze at installing recovery, and now i think my phone is bricked. it wont power on and i cant access bootloader