Need more system space - what is safe to move? - HTC EVO 3D

I am on Butterz ROM, but I don't think that matters. I need more system space. Which apps are safe to move to user apps? I am thinking about moving Google handouts. Has anyone done that?
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From Stock to Root

Hello guys,
Need a little help.
Right now I am using the stock ROM and I wish to root my device.
But I wish to keep all my 40 to 50 over apps inside my phone, so what can I do to shift those apps to my rooted device (Apps2SD) in future?
Will Market still understand my apps after I transfer to my rooted device?
Thanks,
Jeremy
If you install MoDaCo's ROM, as long as you don't partition your SD card for Apps2SD, your apps will remain on your phone. If/when you do want to move them, simply partitioning the card is all you need to do and the ROM will do the rest automatically.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
If you install MoDaCo's ROM, as long as you don't partition your SD card for Apps2SD, your apps will remain on your phone. If/when you do want to move them, simply partitioning the card is all you need to do and the ROM will do the rest automatically.
Regards,
Dave
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I thought that if I were to flash MoDaCo's ROM, than it will be a hardreset right?
How do this flash thing actually works?
Sorry, I came from Windows Mobile to android, so its something new to me.
Thanks,
Jeremy
Thats part of the whole process of going from Windows to Linux
im new aswell but all my stuff endded up being deleted.
because to flash you will need to wipe out the stock ruu and this procces will delete everything. but you can use a backup manager that will backup your apps. but to back up the settings for the apps (e.g. high scores in games) or market link to update in the future you will need root. so you will have to start all over again with your app collecrtion
unless there is a new workaround to this that im not familiar with

Issue with internal storage space on rooted 2.1

On my rooted 2.1, after I un-installed those defaulted apps like Moxier, Wisepilot etc using Titanium backup, the internal phone storage space does not increased after that. Why? How do I release those occupied internal storage space? Thanks
i think they have different partitions,just only my 2 cents
anyone has rooted the X10 with 2.1 noticed the same? How do I release those internal space? Thanks
it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
Yeah.try check tge contain of memory card. I found too many xtra folder and full of cache files.
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dan-htc-touch said:
it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
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Thanks!
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dan-htc-touch said:
it is in fact seperate partitions, all those preinstalled apps you remove are in /system, the space value you look at is for /data, one way to save on data space is to push all your apps to /system, only pitfall you run into is that market will not be able to update them but... if you have a bunch of apps that never get updated, /system would be a great place for them to live. also, anything you put in /system can be themed easily, as signing is not required
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Thanks. So how do I move some of the apps to /system? Thanks
Did you check the (pre-root) "uninstall applications" section?
I noticed that theres the "play now" and such sitting in there are marked as taking up 0.0 but i removed those, and my space shot down....a lot actually...im sitting at 130 used now. Or am i just thinking the space is cleared now?
caff111 said:
Thanks. So how do I move some of the apps to /system? Thanks
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anyone can tell me how? Thanks so much
anyone please ? Thanks !!!
any expert out there who can help me? Thanks !!!
Perhaps you can use soft links, command "ln"
http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uln.htm
What I mean is that you move the apps, and create a soft link in the place where the app used to be that points to the new place.

How much can I tweak odex?

Is we get closer to being able to flash roms onto the E3D, I am starting to think that I might want to go with an odexed ROM. But, I am wondering... if I do that, am I able to remove system apps? Also, how does this affect a zip alignment? If I CAN remove system apps from an odexed ROM, is the memory recovered as once again usable?
Thanks in advance.
I think I am starting to realize why people would rather post in the wrong forum... it seems I might have to do that just to get an answer.
:-(
edufur said:
Is we get closer to being able to flash roms onto the E3D, I am starting to think that I might want to go with an odexed ROM. But, I am wondering... if I do that, am I able to remove system apps? Also, how does this affect a zip alignment? If I CAN remove system apps from an odexed ROM, is the memory recovered as once again usable?
Thanks in advance.
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I don't think that either of them really affect being able to remove system apps. To my understanding the only big difference is odex can not be themed while deodexed can be.
There is this developer called aamikam in the evo 4g section or you can go to his site http://themikmik.com/forums/ and all his roms now are odex and they can be themed, system apps removed he is a pro at cooking up odex roms he may be of help , and many have said that you can't theme odex rom but aamikam proved them wrong.
Here is an explanation from Damage from the DamageControl rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6782283&postcount=2
Theres plenty of debate over what is faster/better to use, im not going to take sides in this one. This is just information about what the differences in the two are, try for yourself.
Deodex basically takes the odex file and stuffs it into the apk as a classes.dex. First boot it dissembles the file into /dalvik-cache (i believe). Now there is basically 2 copies of the odex, one in the apk one in cache. This makes it "portable". This allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff. If you want themes or stuff like lockscreen fixes you MUST use Deodex.
Odex is how things come stock. It takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard. You cannot use themes with this version!! To see odex in dcupdater you must go to menu -> configuration -> rom update settings -> display all roms & display experimental roms. Its marked experimental to avoid confusion because themes in dcupdater will not work with it.
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Seems that yes, they can both technically be modded theme wise. But Deodex is just easier to work with.
edufur said:
Is we get closer to being able to flash roms onto the E3D, I am starting to think that I might want to go with an odexed ROM. But, I am wondering... if I do that, am I able to remove system apps? Also, how does this affect a zip alignment? If I CAN remove system apps from an odexed ROM, is the memory recovered as once again usable?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes you could delete system apps, but you would also want to delete the corresponding odex file. No harm.
All the ROMs you see for the shooter will be zip aligned, so no worries.
Yes the memory would be useable, if a tweak like custom MTD is used, otherwise it would just shrink the /system usage. Hope this helps.
BANG! from my shooter...

flashed new rom, removes bloat but i lose 100-200mb Internal Storage

So i got 0.92gb on my flashed 3vo,
before i got >1GB
this is the rom link
And it seems like the rom deleted all the HTC Bloat? so i would have more space no?
And i have the same apps.
runeazn said:
So i got 0.92gb on my flashed 3vo,
before i got >1GB
this is the rom link
And it seems like the rom deleted all the HTC Bloat? so i would have more space no?
And i have the same apps.
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Did you wipe?
yeah.
i forgot to wipe once and got looping splash.
so i restore nandroid backup.
reboot, shutdown, recovery.
wipe
and flash
anybody?
?
You know that's for a GSM shooter right?
I know i cant flash cdma shooter roms..
you do know i got a GSM version rooted by revolutionary right?
It's probably because the ROM your using is deodexed. Deodexed roms create the cache for each apk on the first boot, this uses up some of your space. On an odexed its already created and stored along side the apk in /system dir
I think that's right, but I think my terminology may be off
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yes it is deoxidized but can somebody explain?

[Q] Removable Apps

I'm looking for a list of apps that are safe to remove from the 4.03.605.2 update on the rezound that wont cause any system problems. In other words a list so that I can debloat my device manually. I'm S-OFF and I've been running ViperRez for awhile now but I think im going to go to stock for awhile and theme myself until an update for VR is released. This might seem like a dumb question, I don't have much experience with flashing just kernels, but can I flash 2 different kernels and have them both function? For example, flashing the super charged kernel and the overclock kernel. Or does it have to be one or the other?
U can only flash one kernel at a time....and u can remove anything u don't need.use titanium backup for that.
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nexussgeek said:
U can only flash one kernel at a time....and u can remove anything u don't need.use titanium backup for that.
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I'm pretty sure there are certain apps that are required for system functionality. I'm not just talking about the basic removable apps like AmazonMP3, etc. I want to know if there is a detailed list anywhere of system apps, sense widgets and sense components that are safe to remove. I usually don't mess much with Titanium, on previous devices I like to make a "bloat" folder on my SD card and place any unwanted apps in it. Then if I need any of them I can place them back into the /system folder and reset the permissions.
I have TB on my phone and just froze the system apps. But with TB you can back up the system apps first and then remove them. If something starts to not function just restore the app. Hope that helps.
searching would have directed you to here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352618
it's old my useful. there's probably more that could be frozen/removed but varies from rom to rom. I bumped that thread since it's still useful
dyetheskin said:
searching would have directed you to here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352618
it's old my useful. there's probably more that could be frozen/removed but varies from rom to rom. I bumped that thread since it's still useful
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The list isn't for ics but doorrs have a good list to state freezing
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