There a lot thread about how to root nook or how flash custom rom but there no any guide for how to install ANDROİD OS to nook tablet ?? How i can convert my nook tablet to android,i cant find any guide..
Wrong section for asking questions! There's a Q&A section. Installing CM10 is the same as making it to an Android Tablet. Lots of guides, just look around in the correct section!
asawi said:
Wrong section for asking questions! There's a Q&A section. Installing CM10 is the same as making it to an Android Tablet. Lots of guides, just look around in the correct section!
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ok buddy dont judge me I was searcing but there a lot thing,i am confussed.
Custom ROMs = convert your proprietary nook tablet to ANDROID open source tablet.
Custom ROMs = pure ANDROID
The latest Android version is jellybean (4.2.2) if you don't want modified ANDROID versions but something more Google Android stock like then flash an AOSP ROM.
Google what AOSP means. Google is your friend.
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Just a little extra to get you on your way:
To make your tablet an "android" tablet, you can either change the device itself, meaning load a custom ROM onto your tablet itself, removing any trace of the original Barnes and Noble Operating System Software, OR, create an SD card upon which you can load and then use to run a custom ROM (i.e., custom android operating system). The benefit of using an SD card ROM is that you do not disturb the original set up of your Nook, do not have to root the device, and therefor your warranty on the device remains intact. When you remove the SD card from your device, you are back to the old Barnes and Noble operating system, undisturbed. If you load a custom ROM onto the device itself, you void the warranty. (Of course, you could always, assuming you did not make a major error, reload the original Barnes and Noble operating system back onto the device at any point, leaving no trace of your shenanigans, and bring it in for warranty service....but there are a lot if "ifs" attached to that.)
So, having said that, if you are a bit hesitant about messing with your device's internal software, until you learn more, I suggested you look for a post on how to make an SD Card ROM. If you make an SD Card ROM, you do not have to root your device or mess with the internal software at all. I use them and thanks to all of the wonderful developers here (tip of the hat to the developers above who were kind enough to respond to you and all the others for their hard work) these work wonderfully!
FYI, this is a great community and very helpful. However, we are all expected to do our homework and should not expect anyone to hold our hand because we are too lazy to read. Don't take offense if you are not hand fed answers. You have to take care also, when you begin, to read entire threads as often issues pop up that may not be addressed in the original post (OP) which usually has a link to the most up too date version of that ROM.
I think I can find a useful thread to get you started but it's late right now and that might take me a few minutes. So, I will try to rememeber to find it tomorrow and post it for you.
Note: I think these days you don't even have to root your device to load a custom ROM directly onto it.....correct me if I am wrong fellow readers. I have no experience with loading internal ROMs, but did root back in the day. So, rooting isn't your biggest issue, it is whether you use an internal (emmc) ROM or an SD Card ROM, and what ROM you choose (each one has it's own benefits...you have to read about them). Do NOT post a question asking which is the best, you will not like the answer you get. They are all great, it's all about what features you want.
Welcome and good luck!
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OK, here's what I dug up. Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35683307&postcount=6
You can use any SD ROM you like. Once you have this bootabe SD card, "flash" whatever ROM you want onto it. Search for how to flash SD CARD ROM....careful you don't flash it to internal! You will need to read about and learn how to use Clockwork Mod "CWM" to do so, not to be confused with Cyanogen Mod, which you will also need to understand. Cyanogen Mod is the wonderful tool created to get you past the BN boot lock. It's what pops up once you are finished making the Bootable SD Card. It allows you to access all drives of your device and specifically gets you into "recovery=CWM" which you use to flash your ROM. It has an option for SDC BOOT, which lets you boot into your SD card ROM when it is ready!
Good luck!
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It seems that there are a lot of ROMs out there that are doing some funky stuff from the edify scripting in CWM and providing a poor user experience. This overall hurts the entire custom NookColor community and puts a bad taste in peoples mouths.
This post is to point out best practices when creating CWM flashable zips in a consistant way allowing the user to upgrade and migrate between roms in a predictable way.
Rule #1: Don't touch /data!
There are many reasons why you don't want to touch /data but the most important is to allow the user to be able to upgrade your rom without completely wiping your data.
If you want to bundle in an applications (first of all... don't but if you reaally think it is necessary) put it in /system/app as a system app.
Rule #2: Don't overwrite /boot/uRecRam and /boot/uRecImg!
ROM and CWM should be separate. Users should be able to use your rom with CWM or even the stock recovery if they wish to. Allow the user to choose what version of CWM they want to run and allow them to upgrade it independently of your rom.
This allows you to not re-release roms every time a new version of CWM is released.
Exceptions to the rule are update zip that are intended to install CWM (which is ok) or zips that will restore the entire system to stock.
Rule #3 Learn edify
Edify scripting is quite powerful. It saddens me to open up the updater-script of a rom and see it extracting a script and then executing the script.
Don't store your roms as .tars and require a script to extract them to the right locations, you should be doing this all from edify scripts.
Rule #4: Only touch /system and /boot/uImage and /boot/uRamdisk
All other files should be off-limit! This goes back to rule #1 and rule #2. A rom should consits of a kernel, a ramdisk to boot the system and /system files for running the rom!
Rule #5: NEVER EVER EVER modify partitions or wipe the EMMC completely!
I cannot stress this one enough. Use stock partition scheme for your rom. It may seem like a "waste" to you but this is what will make all our roms compatible with each other!
Also the Nookcolor stores NVRAM type information on /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 and factory restore information and a backup of p2 on /dev/block/mmcblk0p3.
If you wipe these directories in your update.zip you WILL BRICK THE USERS NC! It may work for you but they can never return to stock. Their serial number and mac addresses will be lost!
Just don't even think about doing anything with the partition map or these partitions!
Rule #6: When in doubt look at the CM update.zips
A good example of the rules above is portrayed in the CyanogenMod nightly roms for the NC. Look at the updater-script in META-INF/com/google/android and see how things are done.
If we all agree to follow these rules the NC users will get a better and more consistent experience and you will have more users for your rom.
For the users I will list the ROM that are compatible with the list above and list ROMs that don't follow these rules.
ROMs that follow proper packaging
These rom have been built properly according to the rules in the OP. I highly recommend testing any of these out.
Cyanogenmod Nightlies
phiremod nook V5.2
Nookie Froyo 0.6.8
(Utility Update.zip) Nook Color SDcard and emmc swap
ROMs that DON'T follow proper packaging
Use these roms at your own risk!
Flashable eMMC dual boot ROMs
Dual booting roms violates changing the the parition table! If you want to dual boot I would use a bootable SD. If you get a class 6 or higher SD card the performance difference should be pretty low. The perceived speed boost i believe is negligible.
Avoid this rom if you are new to Android or the NookColor. I would call this rom an "Advanced user" rom and not for new members of the community who are unfamiliar with Android, Linux, or the NookColor
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HC v4 eMMC 2nd ed. - Flashable ZIP
This rom packaging is the poster child for how to do it wrong. They overwrite your /data for app customization. It uses an external script and tar files for extraction and overwrites all of /boot!
AVOID THIS ROM PACKAGE!
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This looks very wise and in accord with general programming principles.
In the same area of discussion, can you talk about whether or not to clear cache while doing this same update process.
In fact, some explanation of /cache and Dalvik Cache and Market Cache might help to alleviate confusion, especially in regards to specifically what they are, and when one should clear them.
Sure, a "cache" is a piece of data that is frequently used, and so put in a more accessible place, but in typical confusing fashion, that general term is being used in a specific way in Android.
Thanks !
Nice. Good guidelines.
It would, in a perfect world, be nice if a standard CWM recovery would give a choice to either write to SD or EMMC. Then we would not have many of these more involved boot file and CW file edits and changes that are making things more complicated.
If everyone used CW to right to EMMC, this would be easy. But users like myself are running ROMs from SD and are always looking for a way to easily update and flash mods or ubdate ROMs to SD. Yes I use ADB, and other methods, but often I am traveling and away from my office or studio were my PC's are.
Any ideas on CWM to keep things more unified as the op suggests and be able to write to bootable SD cards?
Thanks for starting the discussion.
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Good explanation/write-up, nemith. Not being a dev, but a user, it helps me to better understand which ROMs to use on my NC. I really liked HC EMMC, but did not realize that it would make it so I could never return back to stock (losing my S/N and such).
Also concur with ADude about cache....a good explanation would be helpful here. I only clear the cache/Dalvik when installing a new kernel. Not sure if even necessary? And, I clear AFTER installing, not before, so not sure if I am even doing that in the correct order. Setting the record straight would go a long way for us non-devs.
Sorry, one more thing, it would be great to have a consistently updated bootable SD card with latest/greatest of CWR on it. I am still on 3.0.0.6 and I am not sure why??
Thanks!
~ Razir
Could have used this a few months ago.
Thank you.
Nemith, your thread is directed at devs. If you want to make sure people don't flash my HC v4 2nd edition, you might want to invite users to read this as well.
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ROMs that DON'T follow proper packaging
Use these roms at your own risk!
Flashable eMMC dual boot ROMs
Dual booting roms violates changing the the parition table! If you want to dual boot I would use a bootable SD. If you get a class 6 or higher SD card the performance difference should be pretty low. The perceived speed boost i believe is negligible.
I would avoid dual booting roms if you can!
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I have this installed..... I am going to run the dual boot removal zip when I get home.
Am I screwed? Anthing I need to worry about?
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Nice. Good guidelines.
It would, in a perfect world, be nice if a standard CWM recovery would give a choice to either write to SD or EMMC. Then we would not have many of these more involved boot file and CW file edits and changes that are making things more complicated.
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I've thought of this. CWM would require a major rewrite to do this and the changes would never be sucked in.
Maybe one of these day's I will may my own CWM Kang that can do this, or better yet a desktop application that takes a update.zip and splits out a SD image!
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I have this installed..... I am going to run the dual boot removal zip when I get home.
Am I screwed? Anthing I need to worry about?
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No you are just in the "I am smart enough to use these roms without posting big "help me" posts on XDA.
These roms are not really harmful, but they should be avoided by people who don't understand the nook and how it works.
If you understand Android and how the NC is laid out then there should be minimal risk to using these roms. I just want to spell it out for people who are new to the NC or Android that these are "advanced" roms.
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No you are just in the "I am smart enough to use these roms without posting big "help me" posts on XDA.
These roms are not really harmful, but they should be avoided by people who don't understand the nook and how it works.
If you understand Android and how the NC is laid out then there should be minimal risk to using these roms. I just want to spell it out for people who are new to the NC or Android that these are "advanced" roms.
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THANKS!!! I had the NC for about 4 days now and would hate to have messed it up in the long run. I have a Droid Incredible that has been flashed more times than I can remember. It would be nice if the warnings were incorporated into the OP of these roms. I read the entire thread before flashing and I may not have flashed if this warning was there. I like having the option of going back to Stock without repercussions.
edit: Just saw the update you put in your OP about advanced users. I don't consider myself advanced but I am not a beginner either.
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I've thought of this. CWM would require a major rewrite to do this and the changes would never be sucked in.
Maybe one of these day's I will may my own CWM Kang that can do this, or better yet a desktop application that takes a update.zip and splits out a SD image!
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Yup. That would be very nice.
The Nook having SD boot priority really makes it versatile for testing, and quite recoverable. It also satisfies a unique situation where many users have a family device with Nook magazines and children's books not available on the Nook app, so many like myself are booting experiments and daily runners from SD and keeping the wife happy. LOL.
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edit: Just saw the update you put in your OP about advanced users. I don't consider myself advanced but I am not a beginner either.
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If you go digging at nookdevs.com and on your own NC you should be able to figure out what is safe and what is not.
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Rule #6: When in doubt look at the CM update.zips
A good example of the rules above is portrayed in the CyanogenMod nightly roms for the NC. Look at the updater-script in META-INF/com/google/android and see how things are done.
If we all agree to follow these rules the NC users will get a better and more consistent experience and you will have more users for your rom.
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the ironic thing is CM Roms don't fully follow Rule #3 since they have multiple scripts that run inside their packages during rom installation.
I'm not sure you are correct in saying that if you flash one of the HC emmc roms you can not revert back to stock. I know for a fact I have done both the dual boot, and HC emmc roms and reverted back to stock multiple times after doing so
I'm not saying you are wrong but I don't think i did anything to "advanced" to get back.
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(I have this installed..... I am going to run the dual boot removal zip when I get home.
Am I screwed? Anthing I need to worry about?)
I had it installed and got back to stock no problem... i'm not sure what he is talking about.... i could be wrong though...
It was dualbooted CM7 and HC
went back to stock, registered with BN and all was well.
nooted it and then install HC on emmc
reverted back to stock to set up the ubuntu on NC
got bored of that and am back on HC on emmc
I went back to stock after both as well. Has anyone not been able to after using one of those two roms? I work at b&n and I had to spend time with the stock since they wanted me on the nook counter. I've been back and forth between all the roms more times then I can count.
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To the OP again i'm not trying to be rude, but could you respond to the last few commenter on this thread, it seems like my self a few others are having an experience that is quite different from what you described in your first post.
Could you help me understand why it hasn't been that difficult to get back from the roms that you specifically said can make it very hard to go back to stock from for us?
I'm currently on HM on emmc and if i did something fancy to get back the last time i restores i'd like to know if i need to do it again.
(edit) I bring this back up only because I saw this thread referenced again recently, which means it is having an effect on peoples work so i'm just trying to understand it.
[Edit] It was the SD card's fault. It seemingly worked fine in the laptop and it mounted fine in CW Recovery, but as soon as I used a different SD card I could flash zips again.
So, now I'm playing with phiremod v6 and loving the Nook again.
I believe I just bricked my Nook through use of the dual boot script.
I can only boot from SD into CW but not a single zip can be applied to the internal storage. Not even the "reverse dual boot" zip will run. They all error out.
I believe this is due to unexpected partitioning.
I even formatted boot, system and cache and still it will not restore any Roms.
So now I'm hoping to access the Nook through USB and repartition the internal storage manually. But before I do that, I need to learn about ADB and what the correct settings are.
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To the OP again i'm not trying to be rude, but could you respond to the last few commenter on this thread, it seems like my self a few others are having an experience that is quite different from what you described in your first post.
Could you help me understand why it hasn't been that difficult to get back from the roms that you specifically said can make it very hard to go back to stock from for us?
I'm currently on HM on emmc and if i did something fancy to get back the last time i restores i'd like to know if i need to do it again.
(edit) I bring this back up only because I saw this thread referenced again recently, which means it is having an effect on peoples work so i'm just trying to understand it.
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I don't think Nemith was saying that the existing dual boot installer is going to prevent you from returning to stock. He singled it out as a "ROM" that modifies the partition table, which can be a dangerous thing to do. There is information stored in the /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 and /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 partitions that is specific to each device and required by the B&N software. This information can't be rebuilt easily if lost.
The dual boot install and removal tools (in their current versions) appear to leave these partitions in tact. They are modifying the partition table though, so they're not recommended for novice users. You were able to install and uninstall it with no problems, so you're clearly not one .
The other point is that future versions of the dual boot (doubtful since it has a good dev) or other similar style "ROMs" may not be so careful with your 0p2 and 0p3 partitions.
So I used to have a rooted nook using the DeanGibson method. I learned a lot but it was a lot of hours which I don't really have right now. 1.4.2 removed root & market access so it looks like it's back to square one.
Looking at the options it looks like the albertwertz methods are the quickest, but the problem is now he's got 2 (the original from January and now the R3 method). I can't easily discern the difference between the 2, and since I'm a newbie I can't post in the dev thread to ask. Here are my questions:
1) Can anyone tell me briefly what the difference between the methods is?
2) Has anyone tried both, and if so which is preferable?
3) What is the smallest SD card to use? Looks like 2G is plenty but nowhere is the requirement spelled out.
Thanks xda community for your help!
**Update: I have been all over this forum for the past 3 months and don't know how I missed it; though I had seen all the methods, but was not familiar with the Brian21 SD card method. I gave it a shot since it indicated that I might not have to start from scratch. SUCCESS!!! This worked great, was very fast & simple, kept most of my apps (if not all the settings). Thanx whale2 & brian21.
What about Brianf21 method of rooting?
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So I used to have a rooted nook using the DeanGibson method. I learned a lot but it was a lot of hours which I don't really have right now. 1.4.2 removed root & market access so it looks like it's back to square one.
Looking at the options it looks like the albertwertz methods are the quickest, but
Thanks xda community for your help!
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What about Brian's method? I am a noob too and do not know what would be best for you.
I also lack the ten posts to post on the Dev thread. I am wondering if a totally micro SD based CM7 will be available soon or perhaps is available now? I do not wish to purchase a card from guys like n2a and have a card with software not upgraded fairly often. It was nice having the "nightlies" for my Nook Color.
Are we a the place when the CM7 can be put on a card and kept on the card. When the card is out the Nook Tablet would revert to a stock Nook Tablet? I like so many of the stock attributes that I would like both CM7 and Stock.
Any help would be appreciated.
Brian's Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
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I can't post in the dev thread to ask
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You shouldn't do this. Ever. Use Q&A like you did. Don't clutter dev section with questions like this.
1) Can anyone tell me briefly what the difference between the methods is?
2) Has anyone tried both, and if so which is preferable?
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I haven't really looked into the R3 method too much but I'm pretty sure that is an all-in-one root access, recovery, and custom rom card that it makes.
The other method is much simpler. All it does is allow you to boot into a custom recovery and push a zip file that then roots the device.
3) What is the smallest SD card to use? Looks like 2G is plenty but nowhere is the requirement spelled out.
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1GB would actually suffice for the second method I discussed as the partition it needs is very small. Use a 2GB just in case.
Here is how I would suggest to do it:
Use the recovery sd method. When you are done, you will have root access. From here, you can boot back into the B&N OS and call it a day.
From here, if you want to play with CM7, you could reformat the card you made and instead make a card that boots into CM7 (look for the thread in development).
I highly suggest that, after rooting, you use Indirect's app to flash an internal recovery, regardless of what you decide to do.
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I also lack the ten posts to post on the Dev thread.
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Good, because this isn't something you should ask there anyway. Always use Q&A. Someone will help you.
I am wondering if a totally micro SD based CM7 will be available soon or perhaps is available now?
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Good god do you people just browse the forums with your eyes closed? It literally says it in the title.
Which totally micro SD based CM7 method do you recommend?
I would like my Nook Tab to remain stock, especially since B&N plans to repartition all the Stock Tabs after March 12.
Ok I am not a nooby to rooting and have done it on many devices.
I will say this though I have never seen so many different ways to root one device.
So far I like the sd card root method. But any way here are my questions.
1. what is the best way to Root? Possibly the Sd card way?
2. How Do I repartition the Nook To be able to Utilize the 13Gb of space on it
3.Is there a way to sideload the Android Market (Google Play)?
4. How do you put on CWM
5. What is the most stable Rom that gets rid of bloatware and feels the most like Gingerbread. If its CM7 which version.
If you want you can just point me to Thread links. I am not afraid to read or anything. Its just that there seem to be 7 ways to everything I just asked about and its a little confusing to know which direction to go.
So any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much.
1. The SD card way definitely.
2. Easiest thing to do is take it to B&N and have them do it. You can do it yourself though with this thread.
3. If you only root, the sd card way of rooting will automatically add the play store.
4. Indirect has an app here that will allow you to flash CWM or the stock recovery (the latter option is good for if you ever need to return the device to stock conditions). Simple and easy. This app is actually included with the sdcard root method (it'll be on the sdcard after you burn the image to the sdcard). So once you are in the B&N OS with root access, you'll be able to use a file manager to find the apk for this app, install it and then flash CWM.
5. CM7 Final is the basis for the other CM7 roms. CM9 is cool too though, albeit hardware acceleration does not work yet so things like Netflix and higher end games do not work. I've also listed all current roms that are out for the nook tablet here.
It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you're doing and possibly some experience with Android so you know the drill. Read thoroughly and follow directions to the T and you will be fine. Good luck.
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1. The SD card way definitely.
2. Easiest thing to do is take it to B&N and have them do it. You can do it yourself though with this thread.
3. If you only root, the sd card way of rooting will automatically add the play store.
4. Indirect has an app here that will allow you to flash CWM or the stock recovery (the latter option is good for if you ever need to return the device to stock conditions). Simple and easy. This app is actually included with the sdcard root method (it'll be on the sdcard after you burn the image to the sdcard). So once you are in the B&N OS with root access, you'll be able to use a file manager to find the apk for this app, install it and then flash CWM.
5. CM7 Final is the basis for the other CM7 roms. CM9 is cool too though, albeit hardware acceleration does not work yet so things like Netflix and higher end games do not work. I've also listed all current roms that are out for the nook tablet here.
It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you're doing and possibly some experience with Android so you know the drill. Read thoroughly and follow directions to the T and you will be fine. Good luck.
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Holy cow your awesome!! Thank you soooo much. Have y'all considered stickying those threads? You guys have alot of information here. One more thing. If I am understanding you correctly your saying that if I use the sd card root method, it automatically puts on google play? That would be awesome if it does.
Again thanks a million.
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After I put on CM7 will google play still be there?
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Actually looking at the list of apps that is included with the root script, it doesn't seem the play store is listed. Regardless, its trivial to add.
And if you decide to go custom rom, its as simple as flashing gapps after you flash the rom.
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Google mandates that the play store and other google apps cannot be included with roms. However, you can fetch google apps from here and flash them after flashing an AOSP rom like CM7 or CM9. Just make sure you flash the right ones (i.e. cyanogenmod 7 package for CM7).
Cubanluke88 said:
Actually looking at the list of apps that is included with the root script, it doesn't seem the play store is listed. Regardless, its trivial to add.
And if you decide to go custom rom, its as simple as flashing gapps after you flash the rom.
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Google mandates that the play store and other google apps cannot be included with roms. However, you can fetch google apps from here and flash them after flashing an AOSP rom like CM7 or CM9. Just make sure you flash the right ones (i.e. cyanogenmod 7 package for CM7).
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Well my friend. You just made my life a ton easier. Sincerely Thank you. Now I can't wait for my Nook Tablet to get here. It will probably be on Wednesday.
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is there any pitfalls if you partition the drive where you have all 13 gigs available to you and none for the B&N section of the tablet?
I called B&N and they said if they partition it they do about half and half and will not give you access to the whole Hard Drive. Boo!!
Basically, if you opt for more "media storage" then you forfeit space for /userdata which is app install storage.
This step:
Give a value between 11.6 and 13.6 that will leave you with>> 11.6GB: 4GB for /userdata | 13.6: 2GB for /userdata
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Basically portrays the min/max potential here. If you opt for 11.6 "media" storage, then you will be left with 4GB for app installation. If you opt for the max, 13.6GB, then you will be left with 2GB app installation.
You could always redo it as well I believe.
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Basically, if you opt for more "media storage" then you forfeit space for /userdata which is app install storage.
This step:
Basically portrays the min/max potential here. If you opt for 11.6 "media" storage, then you will be left with 4GB for app installation. If you opt for the max, 13.6GB, then you will be left with 2GB app installation.
You could always redo it as well I believe.
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Hey brother now that I have the Nook partitoned and have CM7 what's the best way to access the 8 gigabytes for user data via the pc?
ps thank you for all of the help you gave me and for pointing me in the righ direction. You made this pretty simple
Thank you!!
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Check out this post for changes that can be made to the build.prop file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23487384
I thought these changes were made to the rom but maybe not. If these lines in your build.prop file are different, change them to look how they're shown in this post and you should be able to mount the internal media storage and your sdcard.
Note that if you decide to try cm9, there is no support yet for mounting the internal media on a computer.
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same boat, with additional ? about list item #4
I was able to complete item#1(sd card root method), without a hitch. It looks like the only place to flash cwm (item#4) is internal mem. Is there a way to flash to an sd card, so I can choose to pull out sd and boot to stock rom if I wanted to? Thanks
...or maybe I can already boot to CWM from this sd boot, but I'm just not doing it yet(don't know how)?
barfcark said:
I was able to complete item#1(sd card root method), without a hitch. It looks like the only place to flash cwm (item#4) is internal mem. Is there a way to flash to an sd card, so I can choose to pull out sd and boot to stock rom if I wanted to? Thanks
...or maybe I can already boot to CWM from this sd boot, but I'm just not doing it yet(don't know how)?
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Sounds like you want to make a bootable CWM SD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446987
I will have to check that when I get home. Is there a way to make the Icons bigger kind of like the I-pad? No I wont be using cm9. I need a fully functional Android Tablet.
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Is there a way to make the Icons bigger kind of like the I-pad?
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there is that app 'spare parts' ?
swc2001 said:
No I wont be using cm9. I need a fully functional Android Tablet.
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yes, count me as being the same way. cm7 is 'really' good for being called an alpha. a little bird tells me it never will be fixed up . . . shame . . . ( on the twelfth of never ? )
Im confused...
Edit:Made a new thread, seems i had more questions than i thought...
Just a quick question don't wanna make a new thread for this:
What i want to do is extend my media drive for my own books and videos and also id like to Root via the sd card method as mentioned in the 2nd post here.
I'm wondering in which order to do it all though.
1. should i get adb tools working first doing the first part only in this video (as instructed in this thread i think?)and then use the CWM included in the sd-card method?
Or
2. Start with the sd card method and then install adb tools and extend my media partition?
Also do i need to worry about the Tools part which is the 3rd thing you need for extending your partition, unless something goes wrong?
I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
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I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
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First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
The difference from your current setup is that right now, the core of the device is still based on B&N version of Android. The alternate user interface is nothing more than a tease of what Android is truly capable of. A custom rom opens up many more doors and should be a much smoother experience.
Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
A bit to more to chew on....
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
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Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
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Thank you, Cubanluke88, for you thoughts and suggestions.
First, I did grab your first linked post and realized some misconceptions. I still need to digest it more thoroughly, though.
On the part of your response that I have edited out in the qoute, I also want to read more troroughly and pose some questions in a later response.
As for the final suggestion, I have been eyeing the Nexus 7 for some time ane even though it is a bit more expensive than the nook Tablet I currently own I think I might get it (or a similar device) when fortune and convenience presents itself. For now, I am still in a learning mode with the Android-like device I currentlhy have and need to read and educate myself further. As stated in my opening post - I am a noob - there is a lot of experimenting I need to do.
I will be replying with some questions after more reading and thought on your offered suggestions in the section I edited out for the time being.....
questions....again
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
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Cubanluke88,
Thanks again for giving me something to think about.
I have read/reread both of your linked posts and your complete response to my post. Further, it is useful to comment that with my nook Tablet hardware it is not at all important for me to have the BN OS. I have a classic nook eink that is totally satisfactory for anything I may need for BN usage alone - mostly, ebook purchase and reading. I purchased the tablet as a means to get access to Android applications not possible from the nook classic which was also hopeless as a general web access device. As a rooted Android device, I anticipate it's nook app to be satisfactory as an ebook reader as well.
Referring to the quoted segment of you initial response:
Still have that custom recovery card?
Yes.
Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store) Store these files on your internal storage..
Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
I appreciate the help and apologise for the need for spoon feeeding but I hope it helps avoid making further mistakes......
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
Thanks in advance....
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Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
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That .img file is what you used to create the sdcard your wife and you used. Just as with the recovery sd card, you take said .img file and burn it to it to create a "bootable" sdcard. Thats not what we want to do now (if you're ready to replace the stock OS). Go to this thread for cm7. See where it says "Internal version 8GB & 16GB Compatiable?" Grab that. That is the rom zip file itself. To get gapps, youll need cm7 compatible gapps, found here.
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
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By internal storage, I'm referring to the internal storage on the Nook itself. (like what you see when you mount it via USB on your computer). It should come up as "My Nook" or something to that effect. If you store the rom zip file here, you will be able to boot into recovery via the sdcard you created, navigate to the internal storage and find the zip file and install it. Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
The easiest way to get a custom recovery is via this app here. Simply install the app and flash the custom recovery within it. Its also a great tool to return to stock recovery should you ever need to.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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Yep.
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Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
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Its in the recovery menu there right at the front. You should see something like reboot system, apply sdcard, wipedata/factory reset, wipe cache, install zip, backup and restore. Backup/restore to backup your current installation, install zip to install the rom + gapps, and wipe data/factory reset + wipe cache after installation.
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
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I'm not sure what this is. I'll take a look at it.
Cubanluke88 said:
Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
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Read much of the following thread and while I think it will be simpler in the future I assume I can do that at any time. Right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458630
Albert Wertz's youtube video throws a lot of stuff into the process which looks very interesting but I think I'll "crawl" around a bit and use recovery card for little longer while I become more familiar with a rooted tablet.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......
Note that if you install cm7 to the device, you are not simply on a "rooted" tablet anymore. You will be on a custom rom that also happens to have root access (most custom roms do). Its also worth noting that cm7 is a custom rom based on Android 2.3.4, so the roms capabilities and limitations will be subsequently limited to what cm7 is capable of. The latest version of Android is 4.1 and we are lucky enough to have a custom rom (cm10) in development based on it.
sawbuck00;33537204.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......[/QUOTE said:
Well it seemed to go smoothly. Currently geting updates downloaded. Back to exploring and experimenting....
Thank you, Cubanluke88, for help and advice. I expect I'll be back in awhile when I'm ready to install the internal recovery app and probably will screw things up at some point but it is my aim to get a better understanding the capabilities......
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undeeded apps
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
TIA....
sawbuck00 said:
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
TIA....
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They're there because cm7 is a port of a phone based OS (Android 2.3 was designed for phones). You can disable them but I believe camera is tied to gallery so that could screw up picture viewing and phone might be tied to contacts so that could screw up your contacts database if you use gmail. If you have a file explorer that has root access (I use root explorer, paid app in play store), you can navigate to /system/apps and all the apks for those apps (system apps) are found there. You can add a ".bak" extension to each one, then reboot and see if anything breaks. If for some reason things break really badly, you can always reboot to recovery and just flash the rom on top of it again.
First off, thanks to all the devs for making this NT awesome...(and other devices, of course) Just want to get that out of the way. :good: :highfive:
I just got the NT from a 1saleaday deal for really cheap a month or so ago, knowing the dev community has made it awesome. And now, I'm getting around to opening the box, and before i set it up, i turned it off, to do some good ol' XDA research. And, oh boy, I've read a lot.... And, I'm seeing this NT being a new beast. Almost overwhelming...
And before i ask a few questions, just want to mention I've had 5+ android phones with TONs of flashing and modding done to them. I normally don't have any issue, and never ask questions, always research and contribute...
SO, with that said: Normally with android phones, What I'm used to is: Root, flash recovery, flash rom, bam, new hawtness. It's usually a simple process, to me... This NT seems to have a lot more to it...
Now my main question is: Do i really need to use an SD card to flash a recovery and CM10.1? I havn't even set this thing up, (let alone care about what is on it...lol) Is there a way i can just use the root methods found on the forum transfer the files to the NT, flash a recovery, and in that recovery flash a rom, all on just the internal memory? (I guess there needs to be partitioning as well... Where would that come in? Probably before the rom flash...) Or does the BN software/bootloader make this difficult on the NT?
I guess I'm looking for just a run down for my situation, where i don't need a backup of the BN software or anything on the tablet, because i just want a sweet tablet with CM10... :fingers-crossed:
Thanks a ton for looking!
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First off, thanks to all the devs for making this NT awesome...(and other devices, of course) Just want to get that out of the way. :good: :highfive:
I just got the NT from a 1saleaday deal for really cheap a month or so ago, knowing the dev community has made it awesome. And now, I'm getting around to opening the box, and before i set it up, i turned it off, to do some good ol' XDA research. And, oh boy, I've read a lot.... And, I'm seeing this NT being a new beast. Almost overwhelming...
And before i ask a few questions, just want to mention I've had 5+ android phones with TONs of flashing and modding done to them. I normally don't have any issue, and never ask questions, always research and contribute...
SO, with that said: Normally with android phones, What I'm used to is: Root, flash recovery, flash rom, bam, new hawtness. It's usually a simple process, to me... This NT seems to have a lot more to it...
Now my main question is: Do i really need to use an SD card to flash a recovery and CM10.1? I havn't even set this thing up, (let alone care about what is on it...lol) Is there a way i can just use the root methods found on the forum transfer the files to the NT, flash a recovery, and in that recovery flash a rom, all on just the internal memory? (I guess there needs to be partitioning as well... Where would that come in? Probably before the rom flash...) Or does the BN software/bootloader make this difficult on the NT?
I guess I'm looking for just a run down for my situation, where i don't need a backup of the BN software or anything on the tablet, because i just want a sweet tablet with CM10... :fingers-crossed:
Thanks a ton for looking!
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Congrats on your NT.
Now to your question,
No, you do not have to use the SD recovery method, but its really safe to keep a bootable recovery, that doesn't need any key persses or prompt to enter recovery.
Also having a bootable recovery , you can bypass the stock rooting, recovery flashing etc and directly get to flashing rom. So I'd suggest this. Even a 1gb (or maybe even smaller card) will do.
I personally feel partitioning is unnecessary.
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Now my main question is: Do i really need to use an SD card to flash a recovery and CM10.1?
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Maybe you can do it another way, but WHY?????
That's what makes the NT so "mod-friendly": that you can do so much via sd-card.
If you want to repartition and the BN partitioning scheme (8 GB user space) is OK for you but you don't have store nearby, burn "repart.img" to sd and run it before rooting.
Burn another image and use that for rooting and flashing an updated recovery.
Start up to that updated recovery and flash your ROM.
Easy peasy!
First off, thanks for the responses. Last night i hit the NT head on, and am a proud owner of a NT w/ CM10.1 :laugh: I'm REALLY impressed with how it runs 4.2.1. It pretty equal to my Nexus 7 (Hisssss lol..)
asawi said:
Maybe you can do it another way, but WHY?????
That's what makes the NT so "mod-friendly": that you can do so much via sd-card.
If you want to repartition and the BN partitioning scheme (8 GB user space) is OK for you but you don't have store nearby, burn "repart.img" to sd and run it before rooting.
Burn another image and use that for rooting and flashing an updated recovery.
Start up to that updated recovery and flash your ROM.
Easy peasy!
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Haha, I guess I'm just used to all my Nexus gear thats had no SD card slots, using an SD card is just awkward now. I had to end up pulling out my old netbook to image the cards, lol. But all is good on the NT now. I put CWM6 on the eMMC, and flashed CM10.1, couldn't be happier. It was stable enough, I ended up setting it up for the Girlfriend and calling it her Christmas gift. Smoooth.. :angel: lol.
Glad you got it set up! And yes, CM10 is so smooooth running on these babies!!