Hi everyone, i'm a noob on Android, accept thatbut need some help before give up and send the phone for the assistance.
I've read some threads about that, will post some examples just to prove i'm trying alone with bother everyone of you =P
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106196
But that phone is in better situation than mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916796
- but i don't have an S3.
And few more on other sites, other languages, maybe even on another world (2 days trying so far).
Now, let's show you my problems.
i was trying to fix my Galaxy s2, it was with Jellybean, and batteries was going faster than light, and the processor was lagging a lot everytime, so i downloaded the 2.3 Android with Odin.
The first Odin was not yellow, it's was blue, but i think 'well, worst that than is impossible', and clicked Start., Nothing happens. Few minutes later, nothing happen either.
So now my phone is completelly dead:
-Dont turn on.
-Don't show 'charging' icon when plugged on power source.
-Don't eneter on download mode.
-Don't enter on restoration mode.
-Don't recognize on the PC.
-Don't recognize on Odin.
That's a 'Hard Brick'? have a way to fix that without replace the MOBO?
Thanks for your patience to read that and maybe even help
Replace motherboard.
The symptoms u stated are tottally a HARDBRICK
but have u tried a USB jig to force recovery mode
if yes then u have 3 soultions :
1) do a J-tag ( find some vids on youtube about it )
2) send to samsung , to replace the motherboard ( this happened to me and it cost me 60% of the phone's original price )
3) because samsung repair costs alot , i advise u to buy a new GS3 ( coz repairing the s2 = a new GS3 )
Thanks for the quick answer, helped a lot.
Well, i saw some videos about the JTag, one of then do it with only $2, i'll try to make one, if nothing happens, i'll leave my phone to an Samsung doctor =P
jTAG is about 20-50 bucks.
USB JIG is 2-5 bucks.
Mobo replacement is 100-150 bucks.
Reading and learning with xda is about 0 bucks.
Factory reset on jelly bean costs the same.
Not knowing how you managed to bricj your device by downgrading to Gingerbread doesn't have a price.
Sent from...this is not even my S2
Researched the difference between a Jag and a JTag, yeah, i think only a JTag will solve this. Or motherboard change.
Well, everyone have done stupid things, unless once, that was my lesson, research, and research more, before you try anything diferent with that kind of thing. =P
Amen.
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Sounds like a hardbrick, but as good as these phones are, they do have problems.
Some s2's have a insane chip, and if you do a factory reset/cache wipe etc while on ICS 4.0.4, dead phone (samsungs fault for a memory cap bug)
Then again the power management IC chip can randomly fry, I think this happened to mine.. So sent it to get a new motherboard for £79 (phone costs £150)
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Something very strange, I checked the time on the phone while I was seating on my car, then I came home, and when I sat on my desk the phone was completely off. At first I though it might be an empty battery, so I plugged on the wall charger, but NOTHING happened. I tried the charger on another phone and worked, so the problem was the phone.
Took out the battery, put it back again and tried to enter recovery or download mode, none of them worked. (Even the 4 touch keys don´t light up, exactly like when you try to turn it on without a battery).
I left it charging all the night, and in the next morning, it was all the same.
About the phone
Because of the forum, its obvious that is a sgh-i777 AT&T SGSII. I changed many times of ROM, but I was running a custom one called "Alliance", wich is Touchwiz based and so stable, that I decided to keep it (flashed it maybe 3 months ago).
Regarding the installed apps, I had "RAM Manager", on the "more multitasking" preset, also had "STweaks" on the default profile, a task killer called "Speed Booster", "Next Launcher" and a bunch of games.
About the battery
I went to a store and asked to try a new one, but It didn't worked at all. The guy at the store told me that maybe it was a "Motherboard" (or something like that) issue, so I left the phone there to see if the can fix it, but they didn't have any luck. (I have to admit that it wasn't an official Samsung service center, but a friend's shop, so its probable that they dont know much about this kind of stuff). Besides, if you look closely at the phone, you cant see that the screws were untouched, so it seems that they didnt even try to repair it.
Another important thing is the battery "lifestyle" that I always used with the phone: Usage, from normal to exhaustive during the day and let it charging all night, everyday. I notice some alarming overheating when playin hard games (so hot that I quit playing and put the phone on the floor to make it cooler), this maybe has fried something inside.
I insist in the fact that I dont think that the battery is the problem because It didn't worked with a new one.
Well, the last "strage" thing that may have something to do, is that I plugged the USB cable to a "broken" car charger, causing the car fuse to burn, but I dont know if that could affect the phone somehow. (Notice that this episode ocurred 1 week earlier than the sudden death, so I dont think is a problem...)
So, this is it. Hope you can help me, because I miss my phone quite much (1 week no use...) and I would really love to have it back.
Kind regards,
Francis
P.S.: I took a lot of time writting this, try to be polite and helpful with the answers.
How are you trying to get into download mode?
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In the moment I've tried, I did Vol Down + Power Button
Adb portable in my signature can help reboot you to download mode.
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In fact, it didnt worked, because the phone does not react when plugged, so it is not detected by the pc nor ADb. Nice try anyways
If your phone does not respond to battery, computer, or wall charger then it is what is known as a hard brick.
Your device may have been damaged by the car charger as well.
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@FranAmestoy,
If you are getting absolutely no response from the phone, and nothing you can do has any effect, then try one last thing (if you haven't already). Pull the battery and leave it out. While holding down both volume buttons, plug in the usb cable. The computer will supply the power. This will put a phone into download mode, but if there is no response to this, then at least you know for sure it is not a battery problem.
There is a difference between "hardware failure" and "hard bricked".
Technically speaking, hard bricked means a firmware problem, usually with the primitive bootloader or the primary bootloader. Such a problem can be fixed using equipment and a technique called jtag, by which the damaged bootloaders are reinstalled. This supposes that the hardware is still functioning correctly.
On the other hand, if the phone has damage to the eMMC memory, or some other hardware failure, then the only remedy is to troubleshoot and repair the hardware. This is perhaps what the technician was suggesting when he said it could be a mother board problem.
Judging from your description of the occurence, it doesn't sound like you did anything that would result in a hard brick. But then I don't know if you actually mentioned everything relevant. In order to find out, you would need to get the phone to a competent technician. The guy who owns Mobile Tech videos is highly respected here. If you wish to pursue getting it repaired, I would suggest that you call him and go over the problem with him, find out his prices, see if he thinks it is worth it, etc.
I have used MTV before and I can say their service was wonderful.
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Now this is what I call "help"
I have to say many thanks to creepyncrawly and Red_81 for giving me the kind of answer that I was looking for.
In a few minutes I will try that USB power method, and see what I get.
Regarding your suggestion, I do very appreciatte your kindness and recomendation of where to take the phone to, but my problem is that I bought the phone in the USA, and I live in Argentina, so its way out of my reach to get what you recommend. Anyway, a few minutes from home there is an official Samsung store, that apparently, offers technical assistance, so I will try luck by going there.
For now, I still say you many thanks and I will keep you informed about what I get.
Kind regards,
Francis
Red_81 said:
If your phone does not respond to battery, computer, or wall charger then it is what is known as a hard brick.
Your device may have been damaged by the car charger as well.
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If the car charger burned down the phone, how can be possible that it continued working during a week before the dropout? I am not saying that's not the problem, but I dont know if there are any relations with so much time in between...
FranAmestoy said:
In the moment I've tried, I did Vol Down + Power Button
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No, USB + both volume keys
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Donwload also didnt work...
As the title reads, I still dont have any luck.
Guess the final call will be to take it to the technical service T_T
Are those things "fixable"? Will be impossible to get a new phone if I cant sell this...
(Now Im missing it a lot...)
FranAmestoy said:
If the car charger burned down the phone, how can be possible that it continued working during a week before the dropout? I am not saying that's not the problem, but I dont know if there are any relations with so much time in between...
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Agreed. I think it unlikely, but it is possible.
FranAmestoy said:
Are those things "fixable"? Will be impossible to get a new phone if I cant sell this... (Now Im missing it a lot...)
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Hard brick repair with jtag would be around US$50.00 plus shipping. Hardware repair would be at least that much in the US unless you can do it yourself. It may be more economical to replace the phone.
When you go to the Samsung store, ask them if it is still under warranty. The phone can be sent to Samsung for repair if they can not do it at the store. I have no idea what that would cost if it is not under warranty. Here in the US we would ship it off to a Samsung repair shop somewhere after talking to them over the phone. But I've never had to do that so I have no idea.
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Agreed. I think it unlikely, but it is possible.
Hard brick repair with jtag would be around US$50.00 plus shipping. Hardware repair would be at least that much in the US unless you can do it yourself. It may be more economical to replace the phone.
When you go to the Samsung store, ask them if it is still under warranty. The phone can be sent to Samsung for repair if they can not do it at the store. I have no idea what that would cost if it is not under warranty. Here in the US we would ship it off to a Samsung repair shop somewhere after talking to them over the phone. But I've never had to do that so I have no idea.
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Thanks for the ideas, but will be impossible, because I bought the phone through eBay and I dont have the invoice, also the phone is rooted and with a custom ROM (triangle alert appears), so the warranty is "super-voided", no chances at all to get it back to stock (remember he's dead...)
I will cross my fingers to see if the can tell me if the can fix it, and how much would it cost.
My major concern is that the failure became impossible to fix. In that case, what will I do? I just can't offer a dead phone on internet for $2... Obviously I need to make some money from him in order to get a new one... However I still have some faith in the official store
You would likely get more than a few dollars selling it on ebay for parts. The digitizer and other parts are definitely worth something. But of course it's not going to be $200.00. Anyway, good luck. I hope you find it is fixable.
Hello all... After reading some threads I felt like I needed to start my own to clarify some things...
I have a friend who has a Galaxy SII (I9100) and she had some trouble with it...
SHe mentioned that her phone started acting erratic, freezing and saying that she didnt have enough memory (she only had 10 apps downloaded after a restore) and suddenly the phone restarted and a message saying that encription had failed. since I'm the one who fixes phones at work (from blackberry to iphone) she asked me if I could fix it.
The phone had pretty much like 80% batt left so I did what every mortal with a bit of knowledge would do... READ! I searched and the solution was to flash it with a newer firmware. I got the latest from SAMMOBILE and proceeded... For the record, the phone could get into recovery but recovery was messed up saying that a bunch of files were corrupt. I tried wiping and it showed an error message, so I proceeded to put it in download mode and set ODIN. Everything was going great... phone was detected,.. the process started.. Halfway through Odin FAILED... I restarted the phone and it didnt do anything... (crapping my pants started then...)
I started reading again (remembering the famous SDS on s3) and in different forums said that possibly some s2 came with the sds flaw and that that might have been my case. however, I always try to get more opions...
I tried using a USB JIG (which worked beautifully in other s2's that I have fixed) to no luck... With the battery in, the phone gets warm around the camera, but the usb jig doesnt do a thing...
So, I'm torn in two... My friend says that she thinks that the USB port was not working properly (she forgot to mention that at first) and sometimes it would appear af it nothing was connected and she had to jiggle the conector. I'm taking the phone to a service center tomorrow to check the port, but that is a pricey thing here in Venezuela... My second option is to sell it for spare parts...
Can I hear your opinions? Is it really hard bricked? Is it SDS?
I don't know which firmware it was running, and my friend doesnt know... my best guess is 2.3 since it's the one it came with and she never updated...
joancolmenares said:
Hello all... After reading some threads I felt like I needed to start my own to clarify some things...
I have a friend who has a Galaxy SII (I9100) and she had some trouble with it...
SHe mentioned that her phone started acting erratic, freezing and saying that she didnt have enough memory (she only had 10 apps downloaded after a restore) and suddenly the phone restarted and a message saying that encription had failed. since I'm the one who fixes phones at work (from blackberry to iphone) she asked me if I could fix it.
The phone had pretty much like 80% batt left so I did what every mortal with a bit of knowledge would do... READ! I searched and the solution was to flash it with a newer firmware. I got the latest from SAMMOBILE and proceeded... For the record, the phone could get into recovery but recovery was messed up saying that a bunch of files were corrupt. I tried wiping and it showed an error message, so I proceeded to put it in download mode and set ODIN. Everything was going great... phone was detected,.. the process started.. Halfway through Odin FAILED... I restarted the phone and it didnt do anything... (crapping my pants started then...)
I started reading again (remembering the famous SDS on s3) and in different forums said that possibly some s2 came with the sds flaw and that that might have been my case. however, I always try to get more opions...
I tried using a USB JIG (which worked beautifully in other s2's that I have fixed) to no luck... With the battery in, the phone gets warm around the camera, but the usb jig doesnt do a thing...
So, I'm torn in two... My friend says that she thinks that the USB port was not working properly (she forgot to mention that at first) and sometimes it would appear af it nothing was connected and she had to jiggle the conector. I'm taking the phone to a service center tomorrow to check the port, but that is a pricey thing here in Venezuela... My second option is to sell it for spare parts...
Can I hear your opinions? Is it really hard bricked? Is it SDS?
I don't know which firmware it was running, and my friend doesnt know... my best guess is 2.3 since it's the one it came with and she never updated...
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Is she hot?
It seems that she was on 4.0.4, so yeah, bricked because of the wipes.
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ok... I assume it's bricked... but is it unbrickable?
Kinda...yeah; you'll need a mobo change.
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ok... I assume it's bricked... but is it unbrickable?
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Lol no, if it's because of the emmc brick bug then, maybe if you can still access recovery some repartition techniques might work but still don't get your hopes up, but if you have a faulty port then it will further worsen your situation.
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It all points to brick bug, never wipe on 4.0.4 (nor back up/restore).
She can claim warranty, samsung is to blame for this bug
Sent from the little guy
Well.. warranty will not work... the phone is like 2 years old and in our country this doesnt work for impored phones... it was not bought from a carrier.
Huguito's legacy, try an usb jig.
You've got nothing to lose.
Sent from the little guy
I have a USB jig which ha worked with another S2, S3, Note... but it is not working... I think I may have an issue with the USB connector... Any way, will try something tomorrow... and if it doesnt work, will sell it as spare... Thanks all for the comments...
Let me know how much would you like for it, was it made in Korea?
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Hi everyone,
I'm writing here cause I've got a really big problem with my lovely Samsung Galaxy S II: the mainboard stopped working.
The really big problem is that I don't know the real problem.
I have two SGS2, one black and one white. The one with motherboard issues is the black one.
I've tried to put the black's motherboard in the white phone but the phone doesn't turn on, neither with a full charged battery (I have something like 4 or 5 batteries for my Galaxys, so i'm really sure that isn't a battery problem) and neither with the usb jig (again, I'm sure that the jig works cause I've tried it on the white one and it works).
I've also tried to put the white's motherboard into the black phone and everything works well, so the black phone's mainboard is broken.
Here comes the problem: I don't know what it happened to the mainboard to break, the last time I saw my phone alive was when I looked at the time on the phone (I mean lockscreen, you know) and after I looked at it it turned off and never woke up (turn on).
Since my hardware skills are quitly good I tried to have a look at the mainboard itself, but it doesn't look damaged in any way, neither fired.
My first worry is about data, I've did a full backup of my phone 2 or 3 days past the damage but I wanna try to recover the latest data that are still stored on my phone.
I've also thought about order a new motherboard from ebay, but the data is still on the broken one, so it will be unuseful.
I attached to this post also 2 photos of the "broken" mainboard (front and rear, taken with my other Galaxy S2)
Any help will be appriced
Thank you in advance guys, I hope to recover data / fix my phone!
Couple of things:
1) This belongs in Q&A
2) What ROM where you on at the time it went off? What kernel?
3) You could try jTAG, 25-50 bucks.
4) The reason why it would be a guessing game, maybe some nasty Sleep Of Death, like those happening with the SIII.
5) Ask the mods to move this thread.
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Thank you gastonw!
I read about the JTAG but didn't understood if I only need the JTAG itself (I mean, this => h t t p : / / w w w . gsm-technology .com/multicom/pimg/sam_i9100_400B.jpg ), or if I also need the RiffBox (what's the difference?)
Anyway, when it turned off the ROM on the phone was CyanogenMod 10.1 - 20130703 - NIGHTLY (obviously i9100)
Sleep of Death? I read about this, and the problem is: how can I determinate if the phone wakes up when I insert battery and Jig? I tought to use a voltmeter, but I really don't know where to place to avoid also short circuits.
About the thing to move the thread, yeah, sorry, I noticed just after I created the post. So, If any mod would read this, please move to Q&A
You can do both as you know your hardware.
Of course the smart choice here is to pay for the service instead of becoming the service by purxhacing the riffbox.
Before you do that hit the download combo without the battery (ask for an extra hand) and re insert it while your still hitting it.
When you plug it, does it get hot near the camera?
Sent from...this is not even my S2
gastonw said:
You can do both as you know your hardware.
Of course the smart choice here is to pay for the service instead of becoming the service by purxhacing the riffbox.
Before you do that hit the download combo without the battery (ask for an extra hand) and re insert it while your still hitting it.
When you plug it, does it get hot near the camera?
Sent from...this is not even my S2
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Again, thank you gastonw! I tried todo the download combo (VOL DOWN + POWER + HOME) while inserting the battery and nothing happened, near the camera the temperature is the same as before.
Anyway I still didn't understood a thing: could the JTAG operate itself or I need also to buy the Riffbox?
jtag is the service the riffbox (and such) provides.
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gastonw said:
jtag is the service the riffbox (and such) provides.
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I ordered a Riffbox from Ebay (fonefunshop, an official reseller).
I didn't wanted to pay for a service like "send your phone and we'll revive it" because I don't trust them and I don't want my data to be see from others.
Thank you for your support gastonw, I'll let you know when the RiffBox arrives if it works
Please do, if you can get the hang of it you will be able to help other people plus -maybe- get a buck or two
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Okay... initially i was on Custom Rom Jellybam based on Jellybean 4.2.1 with Siyah Kernel V5 sync.
I want to upgrade to Kitkat 4.4
so i downloaded all the required files , made nandroid backup , reboot the phone and started transferring all ROM files into internal SD card Sdcard0
I am doing all this is Linux Mint..
It started transferring and got stuck 33.2%
so i removed the cable and try it again and this time again it stucked again
and my phone reboots automatically ..
Samsung logo main screen shows and loading starts but after completing loading bar .. it Freezes there and i cannot boot into recovery either..
SO on searching on goggle for solutions .. it states that i have to flash kernel again through ODIN again in order to access recovery to do Factory Reset..
SO i did the same flashed siyah kernel v4.1.5
it shows its successfully flashed BUT on reboot it shows Yellow triangle and freezes there and i still cannot access recovery and it also freezes on battery charge animation
So i again try to flash using ODIN this time again with siyah kernel 6.b5
and still same problem ,, so pull out battery and leave for 5 minutes and again boot phone in download mode and flash again using odin siyah kernel 6.0b5 and upon Reboot PHONE does not Boot.. I was literally Shocked and i try to pull out battery .. put back in and Try to charge but it shows no animation nor it is going in download mode.
Please HELP ..
Suggest me some ways because 1 year before I've replaced the motherboard due to same problem caused by factory reset in stock ICS rom when There was Hard Brick problem in Stock ICS roms..but it was in warranty so there was no problem but this time its out of warranty..
I didn't do anything wrong and still it got HARD BRICKED and still not have a clue what went wrong ??
No booting at all = nothing anyone here can do = replace motherboard or get a new phone (JTAG also very unlikely to work).
MistahBungle said:
No booting at all = nothing anyone here can do = replace motherboard or get a new phone (JTAG also very unlikely to work).
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i know. this.. its TOO scary to hear this thing..
If anything is possible ?? Anything ??
i will give every info you needed..
And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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i'll go to samsung care tomorrow but i am still wondering what happened wrong as i did nothing wrong at all then still how it hardbricked ??
... probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM. Did you try to flash an original Samsung firmware? Did you wipe data before starting the new ROM? Otherwise there is a big chance for a bootloop.
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AndDiSa said:
... probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM. Did you try to flash an original Samsung firmware? Did you wipe data before starting the new ROM? Otherwise there is a big chance for a bootloop.
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the guide suggest to flash kernel so that i can wipe/data factory reset .. i tried that with odin but phone does not boot and freezes at Samsung logo when loading bar finishes... so i thought to flash stock ics rom but before doing that after flashing kernel again it reboot and hard bricked... and does not boot after all even in download mode..
So this happens after i flashed kernel 3rd time and i still have no clue why did it happened..
and customer care asks it would costs at least Rs.8,000 or $133 to replace a Motherboard.. which is too costly...
can anyone suggest me any other things.. ay alternatives ??
There are no other alternatives. Just because you refuse to accept reality doesn't make it anything less than reality.
And isn't it wonderful to see people still not reading threads & suggesting stuff that's impossible: 'probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM'. I mean, seriously ? The OP has already stated on multiple occasions that the phone will not boot. At all. How do you propose he flash 'a correct running rom' exactly ?
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There are no other alternatives. Just because you refuse to accept reality doesn't make it anything less than reality.
And isn't it wonderful to see people still not reading threads & suggesting stuff that's impossible: 'probably you only need to flash a correct running ROM'. I mean, seriously ? The OP has already stated on multiple occasions that the phone will not boot. At all. How do you propose he flash 'a correct running rom' exactly ?
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hahah... i know .. people are sometimes too lazy to read ..
I just need to know.. what's wrong happened so that it will not happen next time..
Honestly ? That's almost impossible to say. Best guesses based on what you've told us are you simply got a bad flash, which is a small possibility (maybe 1 in 10,000) with any given flash. Or, I've had a theory based on instances like this I've seen on here over the past two yrs which involves the connection between phone & PC being broken for a split second during the flash (possibly caused by less than reliable USB ports on the PC or something else intermittent on the PC side), but not long enough for the disconnection to 'register' on the PC-side like it normally does when an external device is disconnected (you get that exclamation sound & a notification that the device has been disconnected in your taskbar).
It doesn't sound like you did anything 'wrong', put it that way. So I'm not sure there's a whole lot you can do to avoid it in future. Unfortunately, that's the risk all of us take whenever we flash stuff to our phones; every single flash (even CWM ones) involves that small risk (due to the nature of the NAND; having a write abruptly interrupted partway through can 'scramble' it) and the only way you can mitigate that 100% is to not flash anything at all.
Well .. I've already seen several people claiming a 'hardbrick' while the phone was only stuck in a boot loop. Especially while flashing only boot.img / system.img (which the OP claimed) it's normally really hard to create a hardbrick. That was the reason to suggest to try to flash an original firmware.If instead the bootloader is messed up, there is not much to do ...
AndDiSa said:
Well .. I've already seen several people claiming a 'hardbrick' while the phone was only stuck in a boot loop. Especially while flashing only boot.img / system.img (which the OP claimed) it's normally really hard to create a hardbrick. That was the reason to suggest to try to flash an original firmware.If instead the bootloader is messed up, there is not much to do ...
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well I've got my s2 since past 1.7 years and nothing wrong has happened till date as I've flashed plenty of ROMS earlier.. its nothing new to me.. i am well known to these things..
i have exams from 1 month and s2 was creating problems such as freezes while scrolling in any application and automatic reboot from many time
i have no time to solve this during exams..
so i tried to solve this issue yesterday by upgrading to new ROM.. downloaded ROM files .. and ready to transfer to internal sd where copying stuck at 33% 2 times and at 2nd time from where main problem starts.. of freezing at bootscreen and then i trty to solve by flahsing new kernel thriugh ODIN where Hardbrick was TOTALLY UNEXPECTED.. as I've done this earlier time too but nothing happened wrong that time... i was literally surprised that it does not boot at all even i didn't done any mistakes at all & followed procedure.. even ODIN every time shows "Flash Successful"
i've attached screenshot of ODIN flashing.. so you can check for yourself..
May be there is a possibility of battery dying and phone cannot charge the battery ??
i've no spare battery to check .. so will go soon to care to check if its battery problem or not..
MistahBungle said:
Honestly ? That's almost impossible to say. Best guesses based on what you've told us are you simply got a bad flash, which is a small possibility (maybe 1 in 10,000) with any given flash. Or, I've had a theory based on instances like this I've seen on here over the past two yrs which involves the connection between phone & PC being broken for a split second during the flash (possibly caused by less than reliable USB ports on the PC or something else intermittent on the PC side), but not long enough for the disconnection to 'register' on the PC-side like it normally does when an external device is disconnected (you get that exclamation sound & a notification that the device has been disconnected in your taskbar).
It doesn't sound like you did anything 'wrong', put it that way. So I'm not sure there's a whole lot you can do to avoid it in future. Unfortunately, that's the risk all of us take whenever we flash stuff to our phones; every single flash (even CWM ones) involves that small risk (due to the nature of the NAND; having a write abruptly interrupted partway through can 'scramble' it) and the only way you can mitigate that 100% is to not flash anything at all.
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i totally understand what you wanted to say..
i now how to do these things.. i know the risks...
still don't know what happened wrong..
hey guys.. i just went to samsung care and they told me that PCB need to be replaced and it ill costs me INR 8,000 or $133.33 which is too expensive and i told them if any other thing can be done .. i see some videos in youtube stating DEAD or HARDBRCIKED S2 can be fixed by changing its POWER IC...
so i told them that thing then they told me that OFFICIALY only Motherbaord could be replaced however I can ask local reapir shops in my city whether they can replace POWER IC or any other such thing which will be cheap..
So i went to one of the Repair shop (MAIN one in my CITY) & i ask them .. after checking he said.. I'll check IF Repalcing POWER IC will solve the problem or not... otherwise Motherboard need to be replaced..
the cost of POWER IC replacement is INR 800 or $13.33
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he'll replace the motherboard for INR 3000 or $ 30..
so i deposoited my Phone to him and will go again in 2 hours.. to check if POWER IC replacement will fix the problem or not..
I am wondering if it will be safe to do this from unofficial reapir centre whether he will not take orignal parts of my phone internals ? however every people go to his shop.... Motherboard repalcing by him costs only INR 3000 ($50) while officialy its INR 8000($133)..
why is there so much price difference..??
IF POWER IC replacement is good idea ??
i just don't want to be in another problem...
Probably a 2nd hand board. If it were me, I'd be replacing the whole board. I wouldn't want someone fartarsing around replacing individual components on a board that size no matter how competent they claim to be. But that's up to you/how much money you're prepared to spend.
As to whether what he's going to do (replacing an individual component) will definitely fix it, how do you expect us to possibly know that ? You're the one who's met the person who's going to fix your phone/we have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of this person/their competencies. I know one thing though, in Australia, nobody who repairs Samsung phones for a living (I.E a commercial operation/business) would replace an individual component like that. Only 'spare timers' would do that.
MistahBungle said:
Probably a 2nd hand board. If it were me, I'd be replacing the whole board. I wouldn't want someone fartarsing around replacing individual components on a board that size no matter how competent they claim to be. But that's up to you/how much money you're prepared to spend.
As to whether what he's going to do (replacing an individual component) will definitely fix it, how do you expect us to possibly know that ? You're the one who's met the person who's going to fix your phone/we have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of this person/their competencies. I know one thing though, in Australia, nobody who repairs Samsung phones for a living (I.E a commercial operation/business) would replace an individual component like that. Only 'spare timers' would do that.
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well i ask a local official samsung mobile shop onwer whom we knows from years ... he said.. he is the main person in our city and everyone goes to him for repair... and he thinks he won't do such as thing..
SO i gave my phone to him..
and about power IC replacment there are some videos on youtube i checked before asking for POWER IC replacement....
so thought may be it'll work.. :/
hope for the best..
anyways thanks..
MistahBungle said:
And what exactly do you expect people here to suggest ? If the phone won't boot you can:-
*Try a jig (0.0000000001% chance of working, but try it if you like torturing yourself with false hope)
*Try a JTAG if the person who tries is prepared to do it on the basis of 'you only pay them if the JTAG is successful' (also 0.0000000001% chance of working, try this if you like torturing yourself with false hope even more)
*Replace the motherboard; 99.99% chance of successfully fixing the phone provided there's nothing else wrong hardware-wise
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What's up with the sarcasm? Pretty sure that's not what this forum is about.
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Unless you're one of the 'slow kids up the back', you'll know there is absolutely nothing anyone on a phone forum can do for a person like the OP who has a phone in that state. How do I know this ? Experience. I have seen thousands of examples on here exactly like this in 2 & a bit years. They all turn out the same whether you tell people straight up, or whether you stuff them around for two weeks trying stuff that has no chance of working.
And as it's turned out, I was absolutely correct in my initial post. I'm not a believer in having people try a bunch of stuff that has no chance whatsoever of working which builds up their hopes, only to have them end up disappointed when the 'stuff that had no chance of working in the first place' doesn't work (funnily enough ).
I'd much rather be honest with people from the outset, so they can either have their phone repaired & working again (or buy a new phone if people decide that's a better option) sooner rather than later, because I know what it's like to be without a (decent) phone for week/however long.
But you're not capable of comprehending this, are you ? You'd rather make your 2nd post on here a 'gob off' re: something you know absolutely nothing about.
So . the thing is IF POWER IC replacemet will fix the phone or not...i've done some googling and found that the POWER IC replacemet works for users..
If anyone here in this forum has tried this and successfuly saved his phone instead of replacing whole Motherboard.. ??
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Unless you're one of the 'slow kids up the back', you'll know there is absolutely nothing anyone on a phone forum can do for a person like the OP who has a phone in that state. How do I know this ? Experience. I have seen thousands of examples on here exactly like this in 2 & a bit years. They all turn out the same whether you tell people straight up, or whether you stuff them around for two weeks trying stuff that has no chance of working.
And as it's turned out, I was absolutely correct in my initial post. I'm not a believer in having people try a bunch of stuff that has no chance whatsoever of working which builds up their hopes, only to have them end up disappointed when the 'stuff that had no chance of working in the first place' doesn't work (funnily enough ).
I'd much rather be honest with people from the outset, so they can either have their phone repaired & working again (or buy a new phone if people decide that's a better option) sooner rather than later, because I know what it's like to be without a (decent) phone for week/however long.
But you're not capable of comprehending this, are you ? You'd rather make your 2nd post on here a 'gob off' re: something you know absolutely nothing about.
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dude please if anything irritates you .. then i'm sorry..
i ts just its first time happened with me...s i am worried about my phone..
that's all :/
Hello every-xdadeveloper-one~ here i would like to ask questions about my S2 GT-i9100g
My phone is dead. No download mode, recovery mode, usb connection, odin recognition, kies detection, charging, turning on, nada. Meaning in whatever it is, it is not responding to anything.
I would like to ask some professional help here in xda; what has happened to my phone? Is it the emmc? power supply failure? or anything related to it? i really need to know any related things that i'll be dealing with before going to the last step, service repair. it is working fine, i have rooted, unrooted, cyanogenmod and stock, cwm and stock, but none of this has given any problems until one day when it is charging, it suddenly turned off forever.
Please tell me any related things of what has happened.
note: i used a few PIT files when flashing before this, and i'm not sure which is which for the mobo. and few months back before the s2 is totally dead, it keeps on turning off by itself even when full battery, but still workable.
Probably the EMMC, but without having the phone in front of us with the tools to diagnose it, nobody here can tell you this for certain. Fix will be motherboard replacement (assuming you intend to keep this phone & not get a new one).
Take it to a Samsung service centre (more expensive option), or source a 2nd hand motherboard online & either swap the boards yourself, or pay a local mobile repair shop to do it (cheaper option).
Well i just bought a phone from amazon and got it monday it had half battery when i got it so i put it on the charger A hour later it was dead so dead that it wont even charge i tryed diffeent plugs different chargers still nothing what could it be ???
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What model; I.E sticker on the phone chassis under the battery, what does it say ?
I guess it is :crying: Heard there is a workaround that maybe the balls beneath the emmc is like problematic? Maybe i need to reheat it a few seconds and cool it instantly to MAYBE get it able to turn back on? Changing a new board is not an option as important work flowcharts are in the internal storage. I guess service repair of the emmc is needed. Hmmm.
Is it possible that wrong PIT files be the culprit that made all this?
You won't be recovering any data regardless of how you proceed.
You can't 'repair' the EMMC, and it's not feasible to just replace the EMMC (and even if it was, your stuff is on there which means you lose it anyway), replacement of the board is how you proceed. Even if it was possible to replace just the EMMC, you'd probably end up paying 3-4 times the cost of having the entire board replaced due to the cost of labour (swapping a board takes 10 minutes).
If a PIT was the problem, the problem would have occurred immediately after the PIT flash I.E you would have flashed the PIT, and the phone wouldn't have booted immediately after. It's a simple case of component failure, which happens with all electronics all the time. I'm always surprised by how people on here seem to find this incredible. Stuff breaks, simple really.
The only possible very rough chance you have of recovering any data is a company who specialises in recovery of data from dead HDD's, they may be able to help, though very unlikely. If they are able to help, expect this to be very expensive. I have not seen a single post from anyone who has contacted one of these companies & been able to recover data from a phone in this state in the over 2 yrs I've been here.
Thank you for the info. Now i guess the only choice to do, is to repair(replace the mobo), or go buy a brand new s2(or higher models). I will check if there is any way to retrieve the data inside, and i dont mind the cost. :good: