[ROM] 桜ドロイドプロジェクトv２ (Sakura Droid Project v2) - CyanogenMod 10.1
桜ドロイドプロジェクトv２
Sakura Droid Project v2
桜ドロイドプロジェクトv２ (Sakura Droid Project v2) team:
bagnz0r
Marcin
Macław
Downloads:
http://bagnz0r.pl/?p=19
http://bitbucket.org/sakuradroid
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgII69L7g0
Not working (Beta 2):
Camcorder
In-app microphone
GPS
Progress updates
http://bagnz0r.pl
Donations?
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However, please note that donations will be accepted only after you agree to the terms described on donation page.
http://bagnz0r.pl/index.php/donate/
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This thread is not a duplicate! It's intended for CyanogenMod 10.1!
The first release is coming later today or a couple of hours after the midnight!
Very niece work buddies... :thumbup::thumbup: keep it up.
Are bugs relating to call-mic (CM and third party apps)still there ?
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arpit85 said:
Are bugs relating to call-mic (CM and third party apps)still there ?
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Nope.
We must have modified vold.fstab file for change memory? Or we can use this from CM10?
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Great job, I don't use the camcorder so I think I will try the beta.
May I ask how difficult was porting 10.1 (4.2) from 10 (4.1) ?
Or basically they are identical and just a few (less complicated) changes needed ?
Szaby59 said:
May I ask how difficult was porting 10.1 (4.2) from 10 (4.1) ?
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Trivial.
bagnz0r said:
And just why the heck would you need CM10 when you have CM10.1?
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Bluetooth stack is different in 4.2. A lot of bluetooth-reliant apps that worked in 4.1 didn't work with the new stack in 4.2. While a lot of these have been fixed I have a few that haven't. So far anything that takes input from a wii controller doesn't work any more and I just haven't looked for news.
Oh, 4.3 has been leaked so hop to it!
galorin said:
Bluetooth stack is different in 4.2. A lot of bluetooth-reliant apps that worked in 4.1 didn't work with the new stack in 4.2. While a lot of these have been fixed I have a few that haven't. So far anything that takes input from a wii controller doesn't work any more and I just haven't looked for news.
Oh, 4.3 has been leaked so hop to it!
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I have a personal opinion with which many people here might disagree... Here it goes:
PHONES ARE NOT AND WERE NOT EVER MEANT FOR GAMING! GO GET A CONSOLE!
ARM CPUs are just TOO SLOW for gaming. They have an entirely different purpose!
It makes me plain sick when I see how slow JS performance on ARM is, and then "gamers" playing on mobile devices as if they were consoles.
That's my opinion.
EDIT: @arpit85: Sakura always contains Gapps.
bagnz0r said:
I have a personal opinion with which many people here might disagree... Here it goes:
PHONES ARE NOT AND WERE NOT EVER MEANT FOR GAMING! GO GET A CONSOLE!
ARM CPUs are just TOO SLOW for gaming. They have an entirely different purpose!
It makes me plain sick when I see how slow JS performance on ARM is, and then "gamers" playing on mobile devices as if they were consoles.
That's my opinion.
EDIT: @arpit85: Sakura always contains Gapps.
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wtf are you talking about....sheesh. problem lies not in cpu/gpu but BATTERY and lack of hardbuttons.
bez jaj.
pupakota said:
wtf are you talking about....sheesh.
bez jaj.
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Talking about the fact that I don't really care if some games do not work on Sakura.
I'm a die-hard gamer and I hate it when I see people playing games on mobile phones with almost burning passion.
E: Trust me, problem lies in CPU/GPU. This is the core of the problem.
ARM architecture was not designed for high-performance computing. Hell, devices with Cortex-A10 are choking on my 640x360 simple 2D lighting demo... And you're saying that the problem doesn't lie in CPU/GPU.
E2: To top it off you have massive linux kernel and DalvikVM under the hood. Now where is the RAW performance all gaming consoles provide? Where is the lack of overhead that all the consoles provide? The kernel itself and android processes are chewing up so many CPU cycles it literally hurts my butt.
Did you ever wonder why is the PSP kernel so tiny and provides so little functionality? It's for it to be portable, and leave plenty of room for games.
I would like to agree with you bagnz0r, but I simply cannot.
I have connected to my 40 inches TV, a cheap (40$) tiny RK3066 based stick which is emulating every console from ATARI 2600 to PSP with full power on FullHD. There are two bluetooth gamepads connected to this system and every time we want to play something ... we play hard.
On ARM CPU which is less powerful than any actual console.
Gaming not neccesary mean XBOX360 or PS3 (which I adore), but also killing some alien bastarts at "Space Inviders" (Atari 2600) or skating on THPS2 (PS1). I may be too old to understand this whole rush to processing power, but there are too many wonderfull games to be played.
I must agree although that A10 sucks (my refrigerator has more processing power than Allwiner A10).
arroyo said:
I would like to agree with you bagnz0r, but I simply cannot.
I have connected to my 40 inches TV, a cheap (40$) tiny RK3066 based stick which is emulating all consoles from ATARI 65XE to PSP with full power on FullHD. There are two bluetooth gamepads connected to this system and every time we want to play something ... we play hard. On ARM which is less powerful than any actual console.
Gaming not neccesary mean XBOX360 or PS3 (which I adore), but also killing some alien bastarts at "Space Inviders" (Atari 2600) or skating on THPS2 (PS1). I may be too old to understand this whole rush to processing power, but there are too many wonderfull games to be played.
I must agree although that A10 sucks (my refrigerator has more processing power than Allwiner A10).
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ARM cores are perfectly fine for emulation of old ***consoles***. The point is, dedicated games for the ARM core usually suck twat at every single angle.
There is a purpose for everything, and mobile phones were never intended for gaming.
I do have an ARM based box which I hook up to my TV in order to play games on pre-PSX consoles.
It's called RaspberryPi, and it doesn't have a 4" touch screen.
He stated already that its his own opinion anyway. Anyway, bagnz0r, does this support other kernel or u have a custom kernel intended for cm10.1 only? Sorry i need to ask coz im newb.
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Looking forward to try this. Good job!
Edit: Where i can find the sources?
dlsygaco said:
He stated already that its his own opinion anyway. Anyway, bagnz0r, does this support other kernel or u have a custom kernel intended for cm10.1 only? Sorry i need to ask coz im newb.
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We are basing off dh.harald's kernel.
bagnz0r said:
I'm a die-hard gamer.
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I am gamer since 1984, and i can measure my own line of PERFORMANCE i need to have nostalgia+beer experience today.
And while my winmo p750 couldn't emulate Amy 500 with full speed, A2 can do this with finger in its ass.
Now, there's fun: while winmo devices had at least few hardbuttons to manane its software, android bs have not.
You cannot generalize what machine can do - user have this right.
Btw, after getting this device i tested gta vc - while demanding, it ran perfectly well on max settings using 4y.o. card, and while i deleted this thing few minutes after test, i must say this again:
it ran perfectly well on judas77's JB.
I do care about emulation only, and i did not met anything that this device could run well so far.
This device REALLY can provide what most people need.
Pozdrawiam, przeczytaj post.
pupakota said:
I am gamer since 1984, and i can measure my own line of PERFORMANCE i need to have nostalgia+beer experience today.
And while my winmo p750 couldn't emulate Amy 500 with full speed, A2 can do this with finger in its ass.
Now, there's fun: while winmo devices had at least few hardbuttons to manane its software, android bs have not.
You cannot generalize what machine can do - user have this right.
That's all.
Btw, after getting this device i tested gta vc, megatrendy thing to have in phone - it ran perfectly well on max from 4 y.o. card, and while i deleted this thing few minutes after test, i must say this again:
it ran perfectly well on judas77's JB.
I do care about emulation only, and i did not met anything that this device could run well.
This device REALLY can provide what most people need.
Pozdrawiam, przeczytaj post.
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Przeczytałem.
Honestly told, even 233 MHz Celeron can handle emulating 68000 CPU very well.
Rox said:
There is no difference between CM 10.1 and CM 10 kernel?
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I think it's patched for CM10.1, isn't it?
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str3tch72 said:
See bugs, only camcorder is not working.
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Check the CM10 thread There is Wlan bug but its not listed there
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Rikxzdjz said:
Check the CM10 thread There is Wlan bug but its not listed there
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Why would I care about CM10, again?
This is not CM10.
E: As for release, I'm just finishing to build the latest version to see if it'll run.
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Ok so i just installed linpack on a friends iphone 3gs running os4 and i ran a few test and it maxed out at 30.x mflops and i was amazed that an iphone could get to such high speeds.
i mean i hate iphones but this just kinda shows that they are good at somethings....
plz don't flame me for writing this.
the iphone wasn't overclocked or jailbroken (rooted) either.
why does the iphone get so many more mflops than the droid eris or even the nexus one?
31 veiws = no response?
I've said a million times benchmarks mean nothing =p especially mflops. But the iphone has a much more powerful processor than our phone and it's optimized for single app processing so it can concentrate more on each app.
Try the quadrant test, it's at least somewhat more reliable.
it is because the iphone is a magically device crafted by Steve Jobs, who is really the second coming of the lord and savior Jesus Christ. Steve used his divine demi god powers to make a device to save our souls from damnation.
/this is what iphone followers really believe.
or that could be it
Hungry Man said:
But the iphone has a much more powerful processor than our phone and it's optimized for single app processing so it can concentrate more on each app.
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Using that logic -- given that the iPhone in the past didn't support multi-tasking -- it could get away with a much less powerful processor.
The real reason is, in order for that benchmark app to be allowed in the "store", is that the numbers have to multiplied by a factor of 4.
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Using that logic -- given that the iPhone in the past didn't support multi-tasking -- it could get away with a much less powerful processor.
The real reason is, in order for that benchmark app to be allowed in the "store", is that the numbers have to multiplied by a factor of 4.
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sounds like something mr. jobs would actually do.
The iPhone still doesn't use true multitasking and is therefor still optimized for single process-processing. It uses save states to RAM, which is ****ty in comparison to android multitasking but it allows for the cpu to go 100% when working on a benchmark application.
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it is because the iphone is a magically device crafted by Steve Jobs, who is really the second coming of the lord and savior Jesus Christ. Steve used his divine demi god powers to make a device to save our souls from damnation.
/this is what iphone followers really believe.
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well they need to pray to this god to help them remove the battery ahha
Hungry Man said:
The iPhone still doesn't use true multitasking and is therefor still optimized for single process-processing.
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Enough with the idiotic misinformation. The iPhone OS has ALWAYS been a multitasking OS. Even running iOS 3 - you are running multiple things at once. iOS 4 added support for running third party apps side by side. iOS is based on Mac OS X - which has preemptive multitasking, threading etc...
It uses save states to RAM, which is ****ty in comparison to android multitasking but it allows for the cpu to go 100% when working on a benchmark application.
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Your cluelessness is astounding. If you don't know what you are talking about - don't chime in. If you truley understood how modern OSs work ie linux, mac os x - you'd be ashamed you posted the drivel you did.
The higher scores may have something to do with the fact that iOS apps are compiled obj-c. No runtime / No need for a JIT etc...
Excuse me but what is objective c i am new to computers
edit: It doesn't let you put everything in all caps? That sorta ruins the effect.
Anyway I know plenty about computers lol but I know much much more about hardware than software.
edit edit: Oh wow I totally forgot to respond lol the iphone os4 still only uses save states to ram for multitasking. Or at least ios3 did, I know so little about ios4 but I know that the release for 3 is a version of the release for 4, so my point is STILL valid. phew. And just to answer the question further the iphone isn't a piece of crap, it's got a pretty nice processor.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/199528/multitasking_with_ios_4_is_horrible_apple_blew_it.html
Just to further prove exactly what I said lol
Your point about it being compiled c is probably the largest factor though.
who really cares about the iphoney anywayzz ? u cant remove the battery the icons are friggen ugly , u cant make a call without a cover , and this front facing camera ,, what good is it if the people u talk to dont have the same phone ? just wondering lol bottom line, the iphone is for little kids tryin to be cool android is for the reall world
sorry just my opinion
Hungry Man said:
Excuse me but what is objective c i am new to computers
edit: It doesn't let you put everything in all caps? That sorta ruins the effect.
Anyway I know plenty about computers lol but I know much much more about hardware than software.
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Apologies for being so harsh. It's just a habit I've gotten from being on andriod forums.com. So much misinformation over there. Objective-C is a object oriented variant of C. Do a google for Objective-C for more info. Tried posing a link, but I got a warning. It's a very nice language and as I mentioned before is compiled. I also forgot to mention that Apple also uses the GPU to accelerate math functions - so that may also be another reason why the iPhone owns on linpacks.
edit edit: Oh wow I totally forgot to respond lol the iphone os4 still only uses save states to ram for multitasking. Or at least ios3 did, I know so little about ios4 but I know that the release for 3 is a version of the release for 4, so my point is STILL valid. phew. And just to answer the question further the iphone isn't a piece of crap, it's got a pretty nice processor.
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this state saving is an optimization. If the app is not doing anything, there is no reason to have it take cycles or memory. It does not mean that the iPhone doesn't have true multitasking.
I was being sarcastic about not knowing about objective c >_> it just loses its effect over the internet lol
I know a bit about programming, in fact I know C++ more than any other language (not saying a whole lot.)
Like I said, I know much more about hardware as that is what I've studied.
Moved to General.
Hungry Man said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/199528/multitasking_with_ios_4_is_horrible_apple_blew_it.html
Just to further prove exactly what I said lol
Your point about it being compiled c is probably the largest factor though.
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I disagree that the article proves your point. The article basically bashes Apple for not automatically making all apps "multitasking compatible," which is complete crap. As a developer, I wouldn't want Apple to decide how my app works when it's "minimized" to the dock.
Now, the article does mention the save states:
iOS4 freezes the ones that aren't in use
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All that means is that when an app is idle it gets written out to disk (in this case flash memory) instead of taking up RAM. All modern operating systems that support multitasking do this, whether the OS is running on a mobile device (android, WM, iOS) or on a PC (linux, OS X, Windows, Solaris, etc.).
djclark: You state that Apple is using the GPU to accelerate math functions, but are you sure that happens on the iPhones? I looked up the GPU in the latest iPhone, which is technically integrated in the A4 processor, and according to wikipedia the GPU is the PowerVR SGX 535 GPU.
When I looked up that GPU, I don't see the capability to offload math functions onto the GPU.
Given that the latest iPhone has the same GPU as the 3gs, I don't believe they are using the GPU to do math functions on the iPhone.
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Now, the article does mention the save states:
All that means is that when an app is idle it gets written out to disk (in this case flash memory) instead of taking up RAM. All modern operating systems that support multitasking do this, whether the OS is running on a mobile device (android, WM, iOS) or on a PC (linux, OS X, Windows, Solaris, etc.).
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This may be a stupid question but I am going to ask it anyways.
If the iPhone saves the app's state onto a disk and the OS runs so smoothly how come other OS's don't just save app data onto a disk also? Or does the OS just run so smoothly because it is on C++?
I mean I have used the iPhone os4 and multitasking works decently.
I like it better on Android but it actually kinda works on os4
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It's like using only virtual RAM instead of your actual RAM ie: You wouldn't want to run programs off of your hard drive since it's much slower than your RAM.
iOS is smooth because of the fact that it's written in C. It does not multitask as well as an Android phone that keeps the program in RAM.
Hope I'm not being sacrilegeous, but is it possible? I've always admired the platform, but the lack of apps always held me back from trying it.
Any possibility we could get WebOS running on the G tab?
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Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
spamhead said:
Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
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the lack of apps is whats kept him from trying Web OS (ie: buying a web os device) however hes interested in trying out the platform if he could get it running on his gtab.
but you clearly didn't pick that up and made an ass of yourself.
You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
I doubt it, but it would be awesome. WebOS is a stunningly beautiful OS. I love the way it looks, feels, and works. To me, it's up there with android in the multitasking department and surpasses it in design (though honeycomb is getting close). I had a pre for about 6 months and sometimes miss some of the things it did. That being said, as of june 2010, it was buggy as all get out and the app store was severly lacking.
I second the request for someone to look into this though, as it would be a lot of fun to play with.
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You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
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Hey, at least you owned up to it
I bought a Palm Pre the day it was released, I thought WebOS was pretty damn awesome, but they released it on hardware of the worst quality (my Pre oreo'd like a mofo, and the touchscreen stopped working 9 months in). That and the fact that they didn't license it out like Android pretty much doomed it from the start.
Nice to see HP giving it a go, and #2 tablet world is wide open at the moment, but I wouldn't choose it over Android. Would be fun to play with though.
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webos. hmmm, ARM-based and Linux based. Interesting.....
roebeet said:
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
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original pre was an omap processor, not sure if that is arm or not. I think texas instruments was the manufacturer
Btw I thought of this after reading about all the work done on the HTC HD2 and and HD7 running both Windows x.x and Android concurrently. Android Central recently had an article about WebOS 3.0 where they said it is starting to look mighty impressive.
I've always enjoyed Android and how customizable it is, but have enjoyed the UI from WebOS (one of my cousin owned a Pre).
Btw I enjoy using all platforms, I've been on Windows, OS X, and Ubunut for desktops and laptops, and for Smartphones I've used WM 6 (and prior), Blackberry, iOS, and Android. I tend to go with the one that suits my needs/wants best. Now that tablets are starting to be on the rise, I haven't set in stone which one I prefer yet. I picked up a Gtab from Woot knowing that there is a strong community of modders in addition to some solid internal hardware and specs.
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I know nothing about the programming side, but if we could get the ball rolling on this, I'm ready and willing to use my time and hardware for testing.
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Web os is now open source.
Anyone interested
Ubunut!
jraskal said:
..., and Ubunut ...
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LOL! Is this the name for an Ubuntu fanatic?
So, was browsing the Internet, when I found this..
Canonical has started releasing its own, ARM optimised Ubuntu versions for Android devices...
It runs alongside Android and has access to almost all its apps like Phone, Contacts, User apps etc..
It seems to be basically meant for Dual-Cores and when combined with a docking station, you have a full-fledged Ubuntu running on a Dual-Core chipset which you can view in full screen size on your TV Screen n stuff..
Read more here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/21/2812424/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on
PS: Don't you, in your wildest dream, think of running it on our lil screens with a Single core, 600mhz processor...
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Wow, exciting! Too bad there's nothing concrete for users to try right now (unless I missed something).
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
Not At All MEANT for us....
If you read the full articles, it makes quite a lot of sense for a person who moves around a lot. Also the processing power in high-end phones should be enough for the OS to offer a decent experience.
One more reason to hold on to our beloved P500 for one more year and save the upgrade money for a multi-core phone . At least this way, when you upgrade you will be able to really feel the difference.
Thank you!
Greets!
Why not work on p500? Win7 runs on on 1GHz single core... 600MHz for an optimized version of ubuntu should work...
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I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
kennethso168 said:
I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
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There is no mobile device that can run 2 OSs in the same boot... you need a lot of ram and tons of cpu... my 2.8GHz can't handle the android emulator...
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But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
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Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
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Aha... yep... n dats why i said not to dream about running it on our phones...
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RockR172 said:
But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
mDroidd said:
Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
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Haha... yep... but there can be some fanboys... you gotta consider em all...
Note will do it best, you wont even need a docking station or whatever stuff required to connect it to a larger display...
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Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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I have read that ubuntu reguires atleast a 4.0 inch screen which makes it difficult on optimus one !
THIS IS OFF TOPIC, IGNORE IF U WISH.. JUST WRITING MY MIND..
sweetnsour said:
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
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ahahha...
I honestly bought my phone to play ANGRY BIRDS..!!
thats all..
and today in my college, looking at my phone and all the4 modifications i have made in the months, friends say that i should sell my phone to LG at around 1lac ($2000) and become the brand ambassador for LG O1..
So here i'd like to thank ppl i know who helped me get this praise..
Thanks to
> mik (my 1st custom ROM, Official CM support)
> popdog (sweetest ROM ever)
> luporiph & Arjen (ICS, woah!!)
> Franco & fserve (all be damned if not for them)
> sweetnsour, vlt96 n many others for time to time helps
> capslock for this Reverse Tether
> noobs (make me feel "Like A Boss" )
taranfx said:
Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
Blueyedevil said:
Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
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Its still in alpha.. and few months later we are gonna see quad cores... so give it sometime.. remember the 1st few alphas of cm9 by lupohirp?? Remember the lags/flickers etc??
Where are they now?? Gone ryt??
Similarly, give ubuntu some time, it will run better...
N dont forget, that video uses a phone running 1ghz dual core thats not OC'd...
So give it sometime, it will be up and running just the way it does on PC...
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The future is already here
There are already lightweight linux distros for embedded systems.
ArchLinuxARM for example runs on devices not much more powerful than our P500s
Pogoplug - 800Mhz ARMv5te 128 MB RAM & NAND
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4
You wouldn't run X on them. That's just eye candy.
But add a external USB hard drive, they become perfect
low power servers for media streaming, automated BT,
automated data backups, small webservers.
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/support/guides/applications
Anyhoots, once a smartphone is EOL, it might be a good
project to repurpose them for the above tasks.
Oh yah, take a look at the $25 - $35 Raspberry Pi at wikipedia
K guys well I'm inspired by Deadly back in my forum who was inspired by undercover so basically xda is a nice place to get info but it isn't a nice place.
B4 asking anything see this FAQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161034
The OP promises to update constantly so keep checking
People are usually ridiculed for asking questions that other people deem stupid even though it may be a legitimate question this leads to new users being afraid to ask questions because of the fear of attacks by members who are suppose to help.
The premise of the help thread is that there is
NO TROLLING
NO NAME CALLING
NO RIDICULING
NO FLAMING
Only well mannered help towards users in this thread no question is a stupid question
If u don't want to answer at least point in the right direction
NO ONE WILL BE LABELED AS NOOBS
Even after your questions are answered please re-visit this thread and share your knowledge or simply observe you'll learn alot by simply looking at people answer questions thereby minimizing clutter
This thread can be used for little questions rather than creating a while thread or big questions too
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Ports
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Galaxy Nexus 4/7/10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159291
Galaxy s2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165568
Nexus S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162735
LG optimus 2x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162777
Note 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163815
Galaxy S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163627
Galaxy tab 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166921
Galaxy s3 [sprint]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162950
Xperia S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164210
Iconia A500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164354
Infinity tf700
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162472
Verizon Galaxy Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159515
TF101 Eee Pad Transformer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168473
LG P930 NITRO HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168818
Wave and wave 2 (yes bada)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162770
Note 10.1 N8000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168999
Galaxy s2 skyrocket [AT&T]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169557
Galaxy R
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162591
Kindle fire 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169315
Not all of those are completed but when they are thats where you`ll go
Galaxy Note N700 port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160773
One X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171786
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Or
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160417
[*]Wanna make apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161369
[*]Wanna install ubuntu touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159291
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162209
More will be added as more useful threads are made
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Hi there,
Ok, I am a huge fan of old game consoles (nes, snes, psx, etc), but I have always been dissapointed by the emulator performance in most Android devices, there is always sound and gameplay lag of some sort. Not even my 1 Gz dual-core phone can emulate psx at fullspeed ;(. Even a console with an older and slower cpu like the Pandora Classic runs the same emulator far better than my phone.
So, do you think game emulaors (and other similar apps) will run better on Ubuntu touch?
cyanomonkey said:
Hi there,
Ok, I am a huge fan of old game consoles (nes, snes, psx, etc), but I have always been dissapointed by the emulator performance in most Android devices, there is always sound and gameplay lag of some sort. Not even my 1 Gz dual-core phone can emulate psx at fullspeed ;(. Even a console with an older and slower cpu like the Pandora Classic runs the same emulator far better than my phone.
So, do you think game emulaors (and other similar apps) will run better on Ubuntu touch?
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Probaly android apps have a java overlay which means they go slower as apps run through android then java so i guess in that regard yes
But what emulators are u trying. I'm a emumanic and everything runs at full speed except for ps1 but there still playable on 836mhz armv6 processor
So dual core should be blowing them out of the water its probaly your settings for ps1 i use fpse what'd u use?
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TingTingin said:
Probaly android apps have a java overlay which means they go slower as apps run through android then java so i guess in that regard yes
But what emulators are u trying. I'm a emumanic and everything runs at full speed except for ps1 but there still playable on 836mhz armv6 processor
So dual core should be blowing them out of the water its probaly your settings for ps1 i use fpse what'd u use?
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Thanks Tingin, well I tested the emulators that come with the RetroArch release for Android. The psx emulator is pcsx-rearmed, one of the best, free psx emulators out there. It was released originally for the OpenPandora, an arm powered gaming console that runs some linux distro. The emulator runs almost all games fullspeed at 800 Mhz, and by that I mean with no frameskip. The cpu of pandora classic is a 600 Mhz Cortex A8, my phone has a 1Gz Cortex A9 with a better gpu, so it should easily beat the pandora there.
I talked with a dev from RetroArch, and he confirmed that there is a drop in performance in all the emulator cores compared to other devices. Even his GameCube beats his Cortex A8 tablet in the tests he has run.
BTW, I'm an emumaniac too , but I'm also very picky when it comes to playing a game using an emulator, because I like to play with no frameskip at all, and no sound lag.
So I really hope, Ubuntu touch will really use "the full power of the phone".
Here's a link to some discussion about this: http://boards.dingoonity.org/androi...every-android-emulator-on-my-new-s7300-too-(/
Thank god we finally have an official Q&A for Ubuntu Touch.
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I'm porting Ubuntu to my device. (One X) However when I enter the ubuntu-session command I can't see anything else but a black screen. Any ideas?
TToivanen said:
I'm porting Ubuntu to my device. (One X) However when I enter the ubuntu-session command I can't see anything else but a black screen. Any ideas?
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Are you S-Off?
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MikeyCriggz said:
Are you S-Off?
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Nope, no s-off for tegra 3 one x.
cyanomonkey said:
Thanks Tingin, well I tested the emulators that come with the RetroArch release for Android. The psx emulator is pcsx-rearmed, one of the best, free psx emulators out there. It was released originally for the OpenPandora, an arm powered gaming console that runs some linux distro. The emulator runs almost all games fullspeed at 800 Mhz, and by that I mean with no frameskip. The cpu of pandora classic is a 600 Mhz Cortex A8, my phone has a 1Gz Cortex A9 with a better gpu, so it should easily beat the pandora there.
I talked with a dev from RetroArch, and he confirmed that there is a drop in performance in all the emulator cores compared to other devices. Even his GameCube beats his Cortex A8 tablet in the tests he has run.
BTW, I'm an emumaniac too , but I'm also very picky when it comes to playing a game using an emulator, because I like to play with no frameskip at all, and no sound lag.
So I really hope, Ubuntu touch will really use "the full power of the phone".
Here's a link to some discussion about this: http://boards.dingoonity.org/androi...every-android-emulator-on-my-new-s7300-too-(/
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U should try fpse just the fact that I can get close to full speed on some games (no frameskip) is enough my phone is dead slow a 1ghz a9 should be more than enough all u need to do is turn on boost mode this isn't frameskip it uses the BIOS file to help with emulation it isn't on by default because there's a chance it'll crash but I never had any problems plus this app is updated regular only thing is that it's paid but its still worth it
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TToivanen said:
Nope, no s-off for tegra 3 one x.
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The issue without having s-off is that the device isn't completely unlocked. I'm not sure if writing custom kernels with s-on is an issue with the One X (I've been out of the HTC game for a long time).
I digress though. Is there CM 10.1 for your phone?
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MikeyCriggz said:
The issue without having s-off is that the device isn't completely unlocked. I'm not sure if writing custom kernels with s-on is an issue with the One X (I've been out of the HTC game for a long time).
I digress though. Is there CM 10.1 for your phone?
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On our device boot partition can be written to with a pc and fastboot commands.
We do have CM10.1 and it works quite flawlessly. I used kernel and device trees from it.
TToivanen said:
On our device boot partition can be written to with a pc and fastboot commands.
We do have CM10.1 and it works quite flawlessly. I used kernel and device trees from it.
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Then that is fantastic news .
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Then that is fantastic news .
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Yeah except I can only see a black screen. :laugh:
Perhaps I'll figure it out some day...
TToivanen said:
Yeah except I can only see a black screen. :laugh:
Perhaps I'll figure it out some day...
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Someone had mentioned something similar in the Toro Plus forum. By the way, don't know if it counts as a port, but the Sprint Galaxy Nexus (Toro Plus) also has a version up and running. Absolutely no radio though, just WiFi.
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159832
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I have a functioning d2att port. Pm for DL if you want it. WiFi doesn't work without doing stuff through ssh. Not sure of the process though. Also 3g/cell service doesn't work yet. So still a wip.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169557
Skyrocket has a port
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So I was going through my long lost collection of old Windows games and stumbled upon a copy of the original Call of Duty. For the minimum specs, any android phone could really take it ( min. 350MHz, 64MB of RAM and any GPU. So in your opinion, do you think it would be possible to convert any old games like that to Android?
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So I was going through my long lost collection of old Windows games and stumbled upon a copy of the original Call of Duty. For the minimum specs, any android phone could really take it ( min. 350MHz, 64MB of RAM and any GPU. So in your opinion, do you think it would be possible to convert any old games like that to Android?
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no
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no
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Why do you think so? What is the problem?
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Why do you think so? What is the problem?
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CPU architecture, windows' x86 vs mobile's ARM.
I mean other gaming systems have emulators, but you wont get a windows emulator, like almost ever.
You can however, do a remote desktop sort of thing.
x86 vs ARM. Plain and simple to start with. Need we delve into the fundamentals of how different the two operating systems are and how code written for one is specific to it?
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x86 vs ARM. Plain and simple to start with. Need we delve into the fundamentals of how different the two operating systems are and how code written for one is specific to it?
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Alright, thread solved. But that would still be awesome to play if there was a way devs could maybe remake games like that.
Dont know if you ever play zombies on black ops but someone created a black ops zombies for android. It is surprisingly similar to the original.
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hexitnow said:
Dont know if you ever play zombies on black ops but someone created a black ops zombies for android. It is surprisingly similar to the original.
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I know, that's like nothing compared to a full, developed game though
you can play some REALLY old games through dosbox, like redalert or age of empires, but thats essentially done through brute force emulation, you can also play most old point and click adventures like scummvm which is brilliant, and you MIGHT be able to play cod(if there is a psone version)through retroarch or psx4droid, but it probably wont be a great experience, if you want an fps, nova 3 and mc 4, as blatant ripoffs as they are, and s cheaply developed as they are, play pretty well, counter strike portable also works pretty well