K guys well I'm inspired by Deadly back in my forum who was inspired by undercover so basically xda is a nice place to get info but it isn't a nice place.
B4 asking anything see this FAQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161034
The OP promises to update constantly so keep checking
People are usually ridiculed for asking questions that other people deem stupid even though it may be a legitimate question this leads to new users being afraid to ask questions because of the fear of attacks by members who are suppose to help.
The premise of the help thread is that there is
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NO NAME CALLING
NO RIDICULING
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Only well mannered help towards users in this thread no question is a stupid question
If u don't want to answer at least point in the right direction
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Even after your questions are answered please re-visit this thread and share your knowledge or simply observe you'll learn alot by simply looking at people answer questions thereby minimizing clutter
This thread can be used for little questions rather than creating a while thread or big questions too
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Galaxy Nexus 4/7/10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159291
Galaxy s2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165568
Nexus S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162735
LG optimus 2x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162777
Note 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163815
Galaxy S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163627
Galaxy tab 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166921
Galaxy s3 [sprint]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162950
Xperia S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164210
Iconia A500
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164354
Infinity tf700
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162472
Verizon Galaxy Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159515
TF101 Eee Pad Transformer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168473
LG P930 NITRO HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168818
Wave and wave 2 (yes bada)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162770
Note 10.1 N8000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168999
Galaxy s2 skyrocket [AT&T]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169557
Galaxy R
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162591
Kindle fire 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169315
Not all of those are completed but when they are thats where you`ll go
Galaxy Note N700 port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160773
One X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171786
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[*]Wanna make apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161369
[*]Wanna install ubuntu touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159291
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Hi there,
Ok, I am a huge fan of old game consoles (nes, snes, psx, etc), but I have always been dissapointed by the emulator performance in most Android devices, there is always sound and gameplay lag of some sort. Not even my 1 Gz dual-core phone can emulate psx at fullspeed ;(. Even a console with an older and slower cpu like the Pandora Classic runs the same emulator far better than my phone.
So, do you think game emulaors (and other similar apps) will run better on Ubuntu touch?
cyanomonkey said:
Hi there,
Ok, I am a huge fan of old game consoles (nes, snes, psx, etc), but I have always been dissapointed by the emulator performance in most Android devices, there is always sound and gameplay lag of some sort. Not even my 1 Gz dual-core phone can emulate psx at fullspeed ;(. Even a console with an older and slower cpu like the Pandora Classic runs the same emulator far better than my phone.
So, do you think game emulaors (and other similar apps) will run better on Ubuntu touch?
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Probaly android apps have a java overlay which means they go slower as apps run through android then java so i guess in that regard yes
But what emulators are u trying. I'm a emumanic and everything runs at full speed except for ps1 but there still playable on 836mhz armv6 processor
So dual core should be blowing them out of the water its probaly your settings for ps1 i use fpse what'd u use?
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TingTingin said:
Probaly android apps have a java overlay which means they go slower as apps run through android then java so i guess in that regard yes
But what emulators are u trying. I'm a emumanic and everything runs at full speed except for ps1 but there still playable on 836mhz armv6 processor
So dual core should be blowing them out of the water its probaly your settings for ps1 i use fpse what'd u use?
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Thanks Tingin, well I tested the emulators that come with the RetroArch release for Android. The psx emulator is pcsx-rearmed, one of the best, free psx emulators out there. It was released originally for the OpenPandora, an arm powered gaming console that runs some linux distro. The emulator runs almost all games fullspeed at 800 Mhz, and by that I mean with no frameskip. The cpu of pandora classic is a 600 Mhz Cortex A8, my phone has a 1Gz Cortex A9 with a better gpu, so it should easily beat the pandora there.
I talked with a dev from RetroArch, and he confirmed that there is a drop in performance in all the emulator cores compared to other devices. Even his GameCube beats his Cortex A8 tablet in the tests he has run.
BTW, I'm an emumaniac too , but I'm also very picky when it comes to playing a game using an emulator, because I like to play with no frameskip at all, and no sound lag.
So I really hope, Ubuntu touch will really use "the full power of the phone".
Here's a link to some discussion about this: http://boards.dingoonity.org/androi...every-android-emulator-on-my-new-s7300-too-(/
Thank god we finally have an official Q&A for Ubuntu Touch.
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I'm porting Ubuntu to my device. (One X) However when I enter the ubuntu-session command I can't see anything else but a black screen. Any ideas?
TToivanen said:
I'm porting Ubuntu to my device. (One X) However when I enter the ubuntu-session command I can't see anything else but a black screen. Any ideas?
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Are you S-Off?
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MikeyCriggz said:
Are you S-Off?
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Nope, no s-off for tegra 3 one x.
cyanomonkey said:
Thanks Tingin, well I tested the emulators that come with the RetroArch release for Android. The psx emulator is pcsx-rearmed, one of the best, free psx emulators out there. It was released originally for the OpenPandora, an arm powered gaming console that runs some linux distro. The emulator runs almost all games fullspeed at 800 Mhz, and by that I mean with no frameskip. The cpu of pandora classic is a 600 Mhz Cortex A8, my phone has a 1Gz Cortex A9 with a better gpu, so it should easily beat the pandora there.
I talked with a dev from RetroArch, and he confirmed that there is a drop in performance in all the emulator cores compared to other devices. Even his GameCube beats his Cortex A8 tablet in the tests he has run.
BTW, I'm an emumaniac too , but I'm also very picky when it comes to playing a game using an emulator, because I like to play with no frameskip at all, and no sound lag.
So I really hope, Ubuntu touch will really use "the full power of the phone".
Here's a link to some discussion about this: http://boards.dingoonity.org/androi...every-android-emulator-on-my-new-s7300-too-(/
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U should try fpse just the fact that I can get close to full speed on some games (no frameskip) is enough my phone is dead slow a 1ghz a9 should be more than enough all u need to do is turn on boost mode this isn't frameskip it uses the BIOS file to help with emulation it isn't on by default because there's a chance it'll crash but I never had any problems plus this app is updated regular only thing is that it's paid but its still worth it
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TToivanen said:
Nope, no s-off for tegra 3 one x.
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The issue without having s-off is that the device isn't completely unlocked. I'm not sure if writing custom kernels with s-on is an issue with the One X (I've been out of the HTC game for a long time).
I digress though. Is there CM 10.1 for your phone?
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MikeyCriggz said:
The issue without having s-off is that the device isn't completely unlocked. I'm not sure if writing custom kernels with s-on is an issue with the One X (I've been out of the HTC game for a long time).
I digress though. Is there CM 10.1 for your phone?
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On our device boot partition can be written to with a pc and fastboot commands.
We do have CM10.1 and it works quite flawlessly. I used kernel and device trees from it.
TToivanen said:
On our device boot partition can be written to with a pc and fastboot commands.
We do have CM10.1 and it works quite flawlessly. I used kernel and device trees from it.
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Then that is fantastic news .
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MikeyCriggz said:
Then that is fantastic news .
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Yeah except I can only see a black screen. :laugh:
Perhaps I'll figure it out some day...
TToivanen said:
Yeah except I can only see a black screen. :laugh:
Perhaps I'll figure it out some day...
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Someone had mentioned something similar in the Toro Plus forum. By the way, don't know if it counts as a port, but the Sprint Galaxy Nexus (Toro Plus) also has a version up and running. Absolutely no radio though, just WiFi.
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159832
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I have a functioning d2att port. Pm for DL if you want it. WiFi doesn't work without doing stuff through ssh. Not sure of the process though. Also 3g/cell service doesn't work yet. So still a wip.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169557
Skyrocket has a port
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Does the 3d have the power to possibly run a ps2 emulator?
Dual core speed freak
Of course, it can run Crysis at 37 fps...
Crysis! Where!
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sprintuser1977 said:
Does the 3d have the power to possibly run a ps2 emulator?
Dual core speed freak
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Having a dual core doesn't give make it able, emulation requires very high-end hardware. People with Quad-Cpus can't always get 60FPS and those are ahead of the Snapdragon. And I don't think a emu for it is available for Android yet.
It probably can run the same graphics, any good recommendations for hi def graphics games in the market ? The best looking game I have played in a mobile device is infinity blade for iPhone is amazing what epic developers did with it, I know is unreal engine but great I wish they would develop for android tho
I was just curious as im no tech genius. I know the n64 emu runs good and at one point a guy had android running a dreamcast emu and that was before all the new dual core cpus now.
Dual core speed freak
You can pretty much run an emu on whatever device... What comes into question is the quality of playing...
Can you run it and actually "play" a game smoothly.. and fps does relate to smoothness other stuff comes into play tho too,
Shot from my shooter in 3D
injected with cleanrom2.7
Won't be able to.
PS2 had some complicated hardware, very difficult to emulate correctly on different architectures. It's so complicated it's taken years for a decent one for the PC, which works ok but not that great, and this is on a quad core 64-bit machine with a decent gfx card, both of which Android devices do not have.
Don't expect any possible development for it to work well on current devices, dual core or not, it requires a lot of power and serious coding to emulate the PS2 architecture which was complicated to say the least.
Well I read somewhere that someone is working on a gamecube & Wii emulator for android & said everything is goin great. Now if we can emulate those 2 why can't we emulate ps2 I would think those would be hard to emulate. I also have to find where I read it at & I will post it here.
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raymond4 said:
Well I read somewhere that someone is working on a gamecube & Wii emulator for android & said everything is goin great.
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i read that the moon landing was fake and the holocaust never happned
So, was browsing the Internet, when I found this..
Canonical has started releasing its own, ARM optimised Ubuntu versions for Android devices...
It runs alongside Android and has access to almost all its apps like Phone, Contacts, User apps etc..
It seems to be basically meant for Dual-Cores and when combined with a docking station, you have a full-fledged Ubuntu running on a Dual-Core chipset which you can view in full screen size on your TV Screen n stuff..
Read more here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/21/2812424/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on
PS: Don't you, in your wildest dream, think of running it on our lil screens with a Single core, 600mhz processor...
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Wow, exciting! Too bad there's nothing concrete for users to try right now (unless I missed something).
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
Not At All MEANT for us....
If you read the full articles, it makes quite a lot of sense for a person who moves around a lot. Also the processing power in high-end phones should be enough for the OS to offer a decent experience.
One more reason to hold on to our beloved P500 for one more year and save the upgrade money for a multi-core phone . At least this way, when you upgrade you will be able to really feel the difference.
Thank you!
Greets!
Why not work on p500? Win7 runs on on 1GHz single core... 600MHz for an optimized version of ubuntu should work...
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I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
kennethso168 said:
I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
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There is no mobile device that can run 2 OSs in the same boot... you need a lot of ram and tons of cpu... my 2.8GHz can't handle the android emulator...
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But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
arczangel said:
Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
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Aha... yep... n dats why i said not to dream about running it on our phones...
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RockR172 said:
But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
mDroidd said:
Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
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Haha... yep... but there can be some fanboys... you gotta consider em all...
Note will do it best, you wont even need a docking station or whatever stuff required to connect it to a larger display...
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Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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I have read that ubuntu reguires atleast a 4.0 inch screen which makes it difficult on optimus one !
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sweetnsour said:
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
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ahahha...
I honestly bought my phone to play ANGRY BIRDS..!!
thats all..
and today in my college, looking at my phone and all the4 modifications i have made in the months, friends say that i should sell my phone to LG at around 1lac ($2000) and become the brand ambassador for LG O1..
So here i'd like to thank ppl i know who helped me get this praise..
Thanks to
> mik (my 1st custom ROM, Official CM support)
> popdog (sweetest ROM ever)
> luporiph & Arjen (ICS, woah!!)
> Franco & fserve (all be damned if not for them)
> sweetnsour, vlt96 n many others for time to time helps
> capslock for this Reverse Tether
> noobs (make me feel "Like A Boss" )
taranfx said:
Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
Blueyedevil said:
Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
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Its still in alpha.. and few months later we are gonna see quad cores... so give it sometime.. remember the 1st few alphas of cm9 by lupohirp?? Remember the lags/flickers etc??
Where are they now?? Gone ryt??
Similarly, give ubuntu some time, it will run better...
N dont forget, that video uses a phone running 1ghz dual core thats not OC'd...
So give it sometime, it will be up and running just the way it does on PC...
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The future is already here
There are already lightweight linux distros for embedded systems.
ArchLinuxARM for example runs on devices not much more powerful than our P500s
Pogoplug - 800Mhz ARMv5te 128 MB RAM & NAND
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4
You wouldn't run X on them. That's just eye candy.
But add a external USB hard drive, they become perfect
low power servers for media streaming, automated BT,
automated data backups, small webservers.
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/support/guides/applications
Anyhoots, once a smartphone is EOL, it might be a good
project to repurpose them for the above tasks.
Oh yah, take a look at the $25 - $35 Raspberry Pi at wikipedia
well, with all the game devs porting games (gta3 for example, its a direct port of the pc version, you can stil use all the mods and cheats on it) i was wondering: how is it done, and can it be done for any game? well, there is one game which i would pay money for to have on my htc evo 3d: Star Wars: knights of the old republic. if anyone could port this or tell me how i could seriously give them money as i would lovelovelovelove this game on my evo 3d. any dev who could do it name a reasonable price, send me a video of you playing it at a normal speed, tell me how you did it, and ill pay you.
gta3 for example, its a direct port of the pc version, you can stil use all the mods and cheats on it
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It's not a direct port.
i was wondering: how is it done,
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Basically rebuilding the code to work with the Android system. Not easy, needs to be done from the ground up.
and can it be done for any game?
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I'm sure it's possible for any game, but you have to think about processing power. GTA3 was a ps2 game, released in 2001, and it can BARELY run on most android devices now.
well, there is one game which i would pay money for to have on my htc evo 3d: Star Wars: knights of the old republic. if anyone could port this or tell me how i could seriously give them money as i would lovelovelovelove this game on my evo 3d. any dev who could do it name a reasonable price, send me a video of you playing it at a normal speed, tell me how you did it, and ill pay you.
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One, as stated above, that game will probably never run on an android device. And two, you are asking a LOT. It would take a team of people months, if not over a year to get it working.
Have you tried installing a bochs emulator and installing the game on the image lol :-D
Be nice to see doom the original.
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Doom would probably be possible people already have it running on Playstation Portable if I remember correctly they even had Quake II working and I'd bet money the EVO 3d is more powerful than a PSP.
I had Doom running on my iPod Nano 1G with iPod Linux. Doom is possible and easy to port (from a developer's perspective) because it is open source and the game engine code is readily available. GTA III is closed-sourced. Rockstar did not port the game themselves; a different company did. Rockstar is the publisher and distributer.
Well, i could play the original KOTOR on a comp with much much much lower specs then my evo, and yes i tried bochs but it sucked. gta3 works swimmingly on my evo 3d, and its ported from the pc version not the ps2. thats why pc cheats work. so, as i said, any dev able could really earn some money.
Please stay on topic, i was talking about KOTOR not Doom.
bombader said:
Doom would probably be possible people already have it running on Playstation Portable if I remember correctly they even had Quake II working and I'd bet money the EVO 3d is more powerful than a PSP.
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I used to play the old Doom on my MOTO ROKR E6. The phone was great with only 312Mhz Intel PXA 270 processor and 4MB RAM and 8MB internal memory. It was also able to play NES,SNES,PSX,GBA etc on full speed. Duke Nukem, couter strike and old DOOM were ported to it more than 4 years ago. It was also able to run some windows versions using DosBOX. The phone was expandable upto 2GB but a kernel made it to support 32GB sdcards as well...........
The only reason for such compatibility that I can think of is that all those apps were designed to make use of the CPUs full potential.
@Arthurln3D
Try Critical strike from Android games section.....works great.
I highly doubt that the 3Ds processor and GPU are powerful enough to handle games like StarWars.
The Xperia Ray with a single core @ 1GHz play GTA 3 flawlessly, but the Gta 3 lags like hell if we run it on the 3D with both cores @ 500Mhz (Same game DATA was used in both phones)
IMO Evo 3D @ one core will lose to single core Xperias......
Well, i could play the original KOTOR on a comp with much much much lower specs then my evo,
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But porting a game to another device often requires emulation, which requires about 2-3 times the processing power as the original game did.
So again, just to be clear, unless you have say $50,000 or more to pay a team of workers, this isn't going to happen.
mnomaanw said:
I used to play the old Doom on my MOTO ROKR E6. The phone was great with only 312Mhz Intel PXA 270 processor and 4MB RAM and 8MB internal memory. It was also able to play NES,SNES,PSX,GBA etc on full speed. Duke Nukem, couter strike and old DOOM were ported to it more than 4 years ago. It was also able to run some windows versions using DosBOX. The phone was expandable upto 2GB but a kernel made it to support 32GB sdcards as well...........
The only reason for such compatibility that I can think of is that all those apps were designed to make use of the CPUs full potential.
@Arthurln3D
Try Critical strike from Android games section.....works great.
I highly doubt that the 3Ds processor and GPU are powerful enough to handle games like StarWars.
The Xperia Ray with a single core @ 1GHz play GTA 3 flawlessly, but the Gta 3 lags like hell if we run it on the 3D with both cores @ 500Mhz (Same game DATA was used in both phones)
IMO Evo 3D @ one core will lose to single core Xperias......
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thats weird, my evo runs fine with gta 3. must be your evo. don't tell me that the evo runs gta bad, it runs it ine with me even at one [email protected], just tested. its definetly enough to run kotor. well, what do you have to do to port a game? how hard can it really be?
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But porting a game to another device often requires emulation, which requires about 2-3 times the processing power as the original game did.
So again, just to be clear, unless you have say $50,000 or more to pay a team of workers, this isn't going to happen.
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Well, show me a team and ill give them 50,000 dollars. no seriously, im sure that if i'd see someone capable i'd be able strike a deal. let me guess, all of you posting couldn't do it anyway. Well, does anyone know how whatever company rockstar paid to do it did it? even better, link me that company. do SOMETHING, don't just tell its impossible without naming reasonable reasons why.
Well, does anyone know how whatever company rockstar paid to do it did it?
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Contact Rockstar and find out, I did a search but couldn't find out how.
don't just tell its impossible without naming reasonable reasons why.
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I didn't say it was impossible, but it will be expensive just to create a game emulator for one person.
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Product F(RED) said:
Port developed by War Drum Studios
http://www.wardrumstudios.com
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yeah, i just looked at the market page and found out myself. i just asked them, and i hope i'll get a response soon, but to be honest, im pretty sure for some reason all my mail goes into the junk mail as some people have told me this has happened before.
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Please stay on topic, i was talking about KOTOR not Doom.
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Your title said windows games lol.. I was only throwin that out there since the games you listed are old ones
Which GTA are you talkin about? The old old one or the newest one? I know it would take awhile to build and port it over if you start from scratch on the touch input and everything else graphic wise...
Hey,
I recently saw somewhere (on XDA) post that PS Vita has similiar hardware as smartphones that are coming pretty much now (SGS III, powerd by Tegra3 etc.). So is there a possibility for making such emulator? I know that it won't provide similiar gameplay as with hardware buttons on PSV but some games propably would still be playable without them (or with less) like racing games etc.)
I'm just asking for technical side of this task and if there is someone who plans to try and make one?
impossible.
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Probably in 30 years or so, if you want my honest guess.
And not on a smartphone but on a home pc.
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Hey,
I recently saw somewhere (on XDA) post that PS Vita has similiar hardware as smartphones that are coming pretty much now (SGS III, powerd by Tegra3 etc.). So is there a possibility for making such emulator? I know that it won't provide similiar gameplay as with hardware buttons on PSV but some games propably would still be playable without them (or with less) like racing games etc.)
I'm just asking for technical side of this task and if there is someone who plans to try and make one?
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I guess for now still impossible to do. Even PS1 emulator on android is still not perfect enough to play all PS1 game.
So, still long way to make PS Vita emulator on android
Agreed.
I have a hard time getting my Atari ST emulator to run.
Cheers.!
Yep, i was more like porting Vita systems to android or something then emulator but if it's still impossible, thats ok
Would be pretty much impossible considering that the vita is almost as powerful as the ps3 - (already has more ram)
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inaudibly said:
Would be pretty much impossible considering that the vita is almost as powerful as the ps3 - (already has more ram)
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vita isnt even close to PS3
GS3 has pretty much same vital specs and has more ram than vita
No it isn't you have to understand that processors in a phone are not close to having the same power as a dedicated games device. The vita has a quad core processor and another quad core for the graphics
It has 512mb of ram and another 128mb vram this is much more than the ps3
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sorry i misread though it was a normal SGX543
And a psp emulator?
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And a psp emulator?
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Its the same situation. Because it uses dedicated hardware.
Even the Nintendo DS emulator lags on high end Smart phones
Cheers.
it generally takes YEARS for an emulator to be developed for a console and the first place it will appear is on a PC.
Besides, can you imagine trying to cram all the controls for a Vita onto one touchscreen? Yeesh....
I know this is an old thread but it has also copped a lot of wrong answers.
To all of those people saying that it's impossible and that PS1 emulators have barely been perfected and blah blah blah. I will say this now: The PS1 has a completely different architecture to any Android phone/tablet (apart from MIPS ones, which are very rare.) The Vita on the other hand has a CPU with an ARM architecture, which nearly all Android devices have, the Vita itself needs to be hacked for all of the API's and the OS to be emulated but that will probably be the hardest part (apart from emulating the Graphics chip and other complex hardware.) It should be a similar task to emulating Windows programs on Linux and Mac with Wine, or emulating different x86 OSes on x86 hardware, this is also the reason that I think iOS can be emulated but nobody wants to do it because Apple will find a reason to sue them (a reason why I have never bought an Apple product and hopefully never will.)
The message here is to be an optimist, never say impossible and good things will follow, possibly in the form of a Vita emulator on Android or an iOS emulator.
Yeah Seriously
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I know this is an old thread but it has also copped a lot of wrong answers.
To all of those people saying that it's impossible and that PS1 emulators have barely been perfected and blah blah blah. I will say this now: The PS1 has a completely different architecture to any Android phone/tablet (apart from MIPS ones, which are very rare.) The Vita on the other hand has a CPU with an ARM architecture, which nearly all Android devices have, the Vita itself needs to be hacked for all of the API's and the OS to be emulated but that will probably be the hardest part (apart from emulating the Graphics chip and other complex hardware.) It should be a similar task to emulating Windows programs on Linux and Mac with Wine, or emulating different x86 OSes on x86 hardware, this is also the reason that I think iOS can be emulated but nobody wants to do it because Apple will find a reason to sue them (a reason why I have never bought an Apple product and hopefully never will.)
The message here is to be an optimist, never say impossible and good things will follow, possibly in the form of a Vita emulator on Android or an iOS emulator.
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lol 30 years, honestly you can expect an emulator within 10 years of the system release date, if we had dedicated users, I'm sure it get could quicker but it's not "impossible" as PPSSPP, a PSP emulator was recently released on the google store, which runs games PERFECTLY on PC or Mac, it's pretty laggy on my S3-i747m but what games you would expect to run nicely do, of course.
I'm sure newer phones run it smoothly but PSVita games will probably be emulated when the "hype" dies out...
So basically if your asking, can i screw mobile gaming and just buy a phone and bootleg the systems and possibly even play with friends? No.
Can you expect to relive your classics games after you've played them on a legit PSVita in 5-10 years on your Samsung S9 with 16core graphics? Yeah most likely depending on how laws go with the GNU/OSI and how pissed off company's get that they're old ass systems get emulated.
At-least that has been the trend since Atari
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There's a PSP emulator that's called PPSSPP
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There's a PSP emulator that's called PPSSPP
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If I can run kingdom hearts birth by sleep flawlessly on my Nexus 4 then vita emulation sounds very probable in the next couple of years
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vita isnt even close to PS3
GS3 has pretty much same vital specs and has more ram than vita
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Actually Vita is 3 cores away from PS3 but similar ;D
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Actually Vita is 3 cores away from PS3 but similar ;D
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That dont mean anything a lot more involved than just core count
ps vita emulation is possible but i think it will only run on high end phones...also ps vita is already jailbreakable but not as perfect as psp....
[ROM] 桜ドロイドプロジェクトv２ (Sakura Droid Project v2) - CyanogenMod 10.1
桜ドロイドプロジェクトv２
Sakura Droid Project v2
桜ドロイドプロジェクトv２ (Sakura Droid Project v2) team:
bagnz0r
Marcin
Macław
Downloads:
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http://bitbucket.org/sakuradroid
Video:
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Not working (Beta 2):
Camcorder
In-app microphone
GPS
Progress updates
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This thread is not a duplicate! It's intended for CyanogenMod 10.1!
The first release is coming later today or a couple of hours after the midnight!
Very niece work buddies... :thumbup::thumbup: keep it up.
Are bugs relating to call-mic (CM and third party apps)still there ?
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Are bugs relating to call-mic (CM and third party apps)still there ?
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Nope.
We must have modified vold.fstab file for change memory? Or we can use this from CM10?
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Great job, I don't use the camcorder so I think I will try the beta.
May I ask how difficult was porting 10.1 (4.2) from 10 (4.1) ?
Or basically they are identical and just a few (less complicated) changes needed ?
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May I ask how difficult was porting 10.1 (4.2) from 10 (4.1) ?
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Trivial.
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And just why the heck would you need CM10 when you have CM10.1?
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Bluetooth stack is different in 4.2. A lot of bluetooth-reliant apps that worked in 4.1 didn't work with the new stack in 4.2. While a lot of these have been fixed I have a few that haven't. So far anything that takes input from a wii controller doesn't work any more and I just haven't looked for news.
Oh, 4.3 has been leaked so hop to it!
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Bluetooth stack is different in 4.2. A lot of bluetooth-reliant apps that worked in 4.1 didn't work with the new stack in 4.2. While a lot of these have been fixed I have a few that haven't. So far anything that takes input from a wii controller doesn't work any more and I just haven't looked for news.
Oh, 4.3 has been leaked so hop to it!
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I have a personal opinion with which many people here might disagree... Here it goes:
PHONES ARE NOT AND WERE NOT EVER MEANT FOR GAMING! GO GET A CONSOLE!
ARM CPUs are just TOO SLOW for gaming. They have an entirely different purpose!
It makes me plain sick when I see how slow JS performance on ARM is, and then "gamers" playing on mobile devices as if they were consoles.
That's my opinion.
EDIT: @arpit85: Sakura always contains Gapps.
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I have a personal opinion with which many people here might disagree... Here it goes:
PHONES ARE NOT AND WERE NOT EVER MEANT FOR GAMING! GO GET A CONSOLE!
ARM CPUs are just TOO SLOW for gaming. They have an entirely different purpose!
It makes me plain sick when I see how slow JS performance on ARM is, and then "gamers" playing on mobile devices as if they were consoles.
That's my opinion.
EDIT: @arpit85: Sakura always contains Gapps.
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wtf are you talking about....sheesh. problem lies not in cpu/gpu but BATTERY and lack of hardbuttons.
bez jaj.
pupakota said:
wtf are you talking about....sheesh.
bez jaj.
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Talking about the fact that I don't really care if some games do not work on Sakura.
I'm a die-hard gamer and I hate it when I see people playing games on mobile phones with almost burning passion.
E: Trust me, problem lies in CPU/GPU. This is the core of the problem.
ARM architecture was not designed for high-performance computing. Hell, devices with Cortex-A10 are choking on my 640x360 simple 2D lighting demo... And you're saying that the problem doesn't lie in CPU/GPU.
E2: To top it off you have massive linux kernel and DalvikVM under the hood. Now where is the RAW performance all gaming consoles provide? Where is the lack of overhead that all the consoles provide? The kernel itself and android processes are chewing up so many CPU cycles it literally hurts my butt.
Did you ever wonder why is the PSP kernel so tiny and provides so little functionality? It's for it to be portable, and leave plenty of room for games.
I would like to agree with you bagnz0r, but I simply cannot.
I have connected to my 40 inches TV, a cheap (40$) tiny RK3066 based stick which is emulating every console from ATARI 2600 to PSP with full power on FullHD. There are two bluetooth gamepads connected to this system and every time we want to play something ... we play hard.
On ARM CPU which is less powerful than any actual console.
Gaming not neccesary mean XBOX360 or PS3 (which I adore), but also killing some alien bastarts at "Space Inviders" (Atari 2600) or skating on THPS2 (PS1). I may be too old to understand this whole rush to processing power, but there are too many wonderfull games to be played.
I must agree although that A10 sucks (my refrigerator has more processing power than Allwiner A10).
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I would like to agree with you bagnz0r, but I simply cannot.
I have connected to my 40 inches TV, a cheap (40$) tiny RK3066 based stick which is emulating all consoles from ATARI 65XE to PSP with full power on FullHD. There are two bluetooth gamepads connected to this system and every time we want to play something ... we play hard. On ARM which is less powerful than any actual console.
Gaming not neccesary mean XBOX360 or PS3 (which I adore), but also killing some alien bastarts at "Space Inviders" (Atari 2600) or skating on THPS2 (PS1). I may be too old to understand this whole rush to processing power, but there are too many wonderfull games to be played.
I must agree although that A10 sucks (my refrigerator has more processing power than Allwiner A10).
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ARM cores are perfectly fine for emulation of old ***consoles***. The point is, dedicated games for the ARM core usually suck twat at every single angle.
There is a purpose for everything, and mobile phones were never intended for gaming.
I do have an ARM based box which I hook up to my TV in order to play games on pre-PSX consoles.
It's called RaspberryPi, and it doesn't have a 4" touch screen.
He stated already that its his own opinion anyway. Anyway, bagnz0r, does this support other kernel or u have a custom kernel intended for cm10.1 only? Sorry i need to ask coz im newb.
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Looking forward to try this. Good job!
Edit: Where i can find the sources?
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He stated already that its his own opinion anyway. Anyway, bagnz0r, does this support other kernel or u have a custom kernel intended for cm10.1 only? Sorry i need to ask coz im newb.
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We are basing off dh.harald's kernel.
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I'm a die-hard gamer.
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I am gamer since 1984, and i can measure my own line of PERFORMANCE i need to have nostalgia+beer experience today.
And while my winmo p750 couldn't emulate Amy 500 with full speed, A2 can do this with finger in its ass.
Now, there's fun: while winmo devices had at least few hardbuttons to manane its software, android bs have not.
You cannot generalize what machine can do - user have this right.
Btw, after getting this device i tested gta vc - while demanding, it ran perfectly well on max settings using 4y.o. card, and while i deleted this thing few minutes after test, i must say this again:
it ran perfectly well on judas77's JB.
I do care about emulation only, and i did not met anything that this device could run well so far.
This device REALLY can provide what most people need.
Pozdrawiam, przeczytaj post.
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I am gamer since 1984, and i can measure my own line of PERFORMANCE i need to have nostalgia+beer experience today.
And while my winmo p750 couldn't emulate Amy 500 with full speed, A2 can do this with finger in its ass.
Now, there's fun: while winmo devices had at least few hardbuttons to manane its software, android bs have not.
You cannot generalize what machine can do - user have this right.
That's all.
Btw, after getting this device i tested gta vc, megatrendy thing to have in phone - it ran perfectly well on max from 4 y.o. card, and while i deleted this thing few minutes after test, i must say this again:
it ran perfectly well on judas77's JB.
I do care about emulation only, and i did not met anything that this device could run well.
This device REALLY can provide what most people need.
Pozdrawiam, przeczytaj post.
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Przeczytałem.
Honestly told, even 233 MHz Celeron can handle emulating 68000 CPU very well.
Rox said:
There is no difference between CM 10.1 and CM 10 kernel?
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I think it's patched for CM10.1, isn't it?
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See bugs, only camcorder is not working.
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Check the CM10 thread There is Wlan bug but its not listed there
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Rikxzdjz said:
Check the CM10 thread There is Wlan bug but its not listed there
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Why would I care about CM10, again?
This is not CM10.
E: As for release, I'm just finishing to build the latest version to see if it'll run.