Both are in Verizon thread section for S4. Thanks.
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My understanding is that Android Development is modification of TouchWiz based ROMs and Original is anything that wouldn't fall under that category such as AOSP ROMs, custom Kernels, etc.
EvoRocker said:
My understanding is that Android Development is modification of TouchWiz based ROMs and Original is anything that wouldn't fall under that category such as AOSP ROMs, custom Kernels, etc.
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Makes sense. If anyone knows of anything different please chime in.
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Original is for original work. Regular is for any modified, ported,tweaked,themed work.
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EvoRocker said:
My understanding is that Android Development is modification of TouchWiz based ROMs and Original is anything that wouldn't fall under that category such as AOSP ROMs, custom Kernels, etc.
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This is how I see it as well. I was confused for quite some time until I finally realized the difference
You guys aren't getting it. The regular development isn't just for touchwiz ROMs. It's also for ports or additional work to roms that the dev didn't do THE ORIGINAL work to.
If it's not new or ground breaking or an original piece of work it doesn't belong in original.
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You guys aren't getting it. The regular development isn't just for touchwiz ROMs. It's also for ports or additional work to roms that the dev didn't do THE ORIGINAL work to.
If it's not new or ground breaking or an original piece of work it doesn't belong in original.
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Exactly. There are a couple aosp ports threw now like avatar and chameleon os
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Oh I got the impression that original was for developers only section lol
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Oh I got the impression that original was for developers only section lol
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No, the developer only section is for developers only.
To be fair though, only people actively developing should be making new threads in either of the development sections.
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International Note. MIUI with all the Samsung apps working!! Can someone port one of these? I would if I had any idea how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688646
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International Note. MIUI with all the Samsung apps working!! Can someone port one of these? I would if I had any idea how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...highlight=i717
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...highlight=memo
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this would be fantastic!!
Maybe post this in the forum for the international Note.
Or did I miss something?
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Maybe post this in the forum for the international Note.
Or did I miss something?
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What would that achieve? Our Devs would have to port it, not theres, doubt they even have our phone.
You'd probably have to beg a miui dev....
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You'd probably have to beg a miui dev....
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hmmm...lol...was reading the development threads to see how easy it would be for a noob at dev-ing like my self to do it. The only factor that bothers me is not knowing the ins and outs of linux/ios desktop software.
Sounds and looks difficult. The Spen stuff is dependant on Touchwiz. So that must mean they somehow got all the touchwiz dependencies working in an AOSP based ROM, without needing an actual stock ROM
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Sounds and looks difficult. The Spen stuff is dependant on Touchwiz. So that must mean they somehow got all the touchwiz dependencies working in an AOSP based ROM, without needing an actual stock ROM
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It would be awesome though, wonder why the links don't work anymore.
So I reached out to Gerrett the Dev who put together the Vengeance Note Edition MIUI Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688646). He said he might be up for the challenge but he needs to know the differences between the International and ATT note from a Dev stand point, and will need volenteers to test the rom and send log cats. I expressed my interest in offering my help and I sure others will join in, but I just need some help from one of our Devs to turn to when he has questions about our device. Any Devs interested in helping out?
Hello,
I just switched to the EVO LTE and was wondering why there were two development forums?
One says EVO LTE Android Development, and the other says Original EVO LTE Android Development.
Whats the difference?
Basically, the "Original" development section is meant for work that is groundbreaking or new for this phone. Examples of this include kernels, CM9/CM10 development, MIUI development, and very special Sense ROMs. The other section is meant for the rest, which would be ROMs that use other ROMs as bases or ROMs that advertise mostly placebo effects as features.
Think of the "Original" section as "the big firsts".
Theres a sticky right at the top of the original android dev forum that explains it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761432
It gets all to confusing. A rom like viper lte is in the original section, but its base out of the pokemon rom and its scene base so its definitely not original. So yeah I still don't get what's the true definition of original.
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Viper 4g is not based on pokemon, it was built ground up on the new ruu and is a collaboration of the viper and pokemon teams, now known as team venom.
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mrlakadaddy said:
Viper 4g is not based on pokemon, it was built ground up on the new ruu and is a collaboration of the viper and pokemon teams, now known as team venom.
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You could have fooled me.
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It gets all to confusing. A rom like viper lte is in the original section, but its base out of the pokemon rom and its scene base so its definitely not original. So yeah I still don't get what's the true definition of original.
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You're one of the people who is taking "Original" literally, which is why you're confused. It doesn't mean that a ROM has to be made from scratch, it means that it has to display a considerate amount of original work. Venom ROM is in the "Original" section because it has many features that no other Sense ROM does, like the extensive tweaks. These tweaks represent a huge amount of effort made by the developers.
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You're one of the people who is taking "Original" literally, which is why you're confused. It doesn't mean that a ROM has to be made from scratch, it means that it has to display a considerate amount of original work. Venom ROM is in the "Original" section because it has many features that no other Sense ROM does, like the extensive tweaks. These tweaks represent a huge amount of effort made by the developers.
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You mean the same tweaks found in the pokemon rom?
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shook187 said:
You mean the same tweaks found in the pokemon rom?
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The Pokemon ROM is no longer in development, and has been replaced by Venom ROM. Why the hell would we keep a dead ROM in the "Original" section when there is essentially a newer version of it available?
He's never flashed it soo...
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The Pokemon ROM is no longer in development, and has been replaced by Venom ROM. Why the hell would we keep a dead ROM in the "Original" section when there is essentially a newer version of it available?
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Let it go.
His mind is already made up about the facts.
First, Welcome to the EVO LTE section!! Youll love the device!
closed thread...
OP as noted refer to the thread already on this here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761432
there is also a post in the portal on the change.
I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
Might I suggest checking out the development and original development threads?
You can currently follow along with joelz while they trouble shoot a new port.
AOSP
CM10
MIUI
Sense 4
Sense 5
Several kernels
Looks like development to me.
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cuseme said:
I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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Hmm... Can't tell if serious or troll
shobon said:
What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
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You may be blind sir...
cstrife999 said:
You may be blind sir...
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Im thinking that may be the case
Bigandrewgold said:
Im thinking that may be the case
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
cstrife999 said:
In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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Braille
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Braille
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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Seriously, is there something you want that is not developed such as a specific rom, kernel, recovery, etc?
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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Is it because they are mostly built from the same base? I can see that being confusing to some, thinking there is no real development going on.. However, the same base != the same rom. There is real development going on for our device and all other devices on these forums.. I for one feel we have plenty to choose from and things are only going to get better and easier down the road... May have an official Sense 5 rom for the devs to play around with if Verizon gets things going.. I love it here!! Am I wrong? :good: :highfive::highfive:
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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That was sarcasm. In other words most of our roms have a completely different feel. On the GNex there were a lot of dups for sure.
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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We also have MIUI!!!
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Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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Don't get me wrong, its an amazing phone that could easily compete with the SGS4, but it's Verizon exclusive so it never made it to that status. It was a mistake on Verizons and HTCs part to make this beast a carrier exclusive.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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well, considering that verizon sells the iphone and the SGS4 (and the SGS3 if you want to talk about 2012), will them having close to 50% and 30% market share, respectively, i dont really see how the DNA could have been anywhere near a top seller. not to mention the note 2 and others. i would probably label this phone "unpopular". most people have never even heard of this phone. i'm glad they are making the "droid" branding exclusive to motorola. the DNA's exclusivity to Verizon killed the awesome potential this phone had. but still, i think we have awesome development. except, i dont understand why we have 5 million aosp roms.
I was just wondering what is the difference they look very similar. I am currently running a TW clean ROM with all the bload ware removed and wanted to try something else. I'm sorry if this is posted in the wrong section!
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CM 10.1 does have OTG Support....
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I was just wondering what is the difference they look very similar. I am currently running a TW clean ROM with all the bload ware removed and wanted to try something else. I'm sorry if this is posted in the wrong section!
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GE 4.2.2 still has most of the TW framework in it natively. Where as any TW stuff in CM was added.
CM also has more user changeable options. GE is pretty much how it is
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Dubbsy said:
GE 4.2.2 still has most of the TW framework in it natively. Where as any TW stuff in CM was added.
CM also has more user changeable options. GE is pretty much how it is
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I have tried the GE ROM but think I'm going to back up my current ROM and try CM. Not they the GE ROM is bad there are little bug that just annoyed me, but I know that you have been working hard with that port Dubbsy.
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It's cool. I'm on slim right now. Lol. When I can't work on my own priests for whatever reason I try to mix it up a bit. :good:
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I've tried about all of the current ROM's on my S4. I personally like CM the best. It is the closest thing to a 100% stock Google ROM there is.
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I've tried about all of the current ROM's on my S4. I personally like CM the best. It is the closest thing to a 100% stock Google ROM there is.
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I personally would disagree with that. CM has way too many customizations to be anywhere near pure aosp. I'm not saying they aren't welcomed customizations but they are indeed customizations. I personally am not a huge fan of pure aosp because of the lack of customizations baked into the settings.
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Well I just installed CyanogenMod gonna give it a try.
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Well I just installed CyanogenMod gonna give it a try.
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You really can't go wrong with CyanogenMod. :good:
I'd also recommend ChameleonOS by @Treken as it is sower solid and with personal conversations with trek he has shown to be very knowledgeable and under the same mindset that IMO all Linux/android Devs should be under. That is ask each other questions, share knowledge you gained by doing a task that caused troubles, and in general do not withhold info or ignore other Dev questions. :good:
And for another plug of an aosp ROM id also suggest SlimRom just because it is wicked light and plenty capable.
ChaOS and Slim are the only AOSP ROMs I've ran in over a month on the gs4. My nexus 7 just runs PACman.
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Moved to Q&A
Just curious as of 2-18-2014, which ROMs are best with the D803 variant?
AOSP or flex?
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Between AOSP/AOSB and Flex/Stock I have to go with Flex/Stock, I prefer having a feel other than Android OS, to me it is very basic, but very functional, I guess I like having all the goods that come with Flex/Stock ROM.
I have to choose the Flex/Stock for all the apps that comes with it as long as it is debloated, but I can get rid of the bloat with a few apps.
I have been on AeonFlex 3 for a while and wanting to migrate but which ones are compatible?
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Between AOSP/AOSB and Flex/Stock I have to go with Flex/Stock, I prefer having a feel other than Android OS, to me it is very basic, but very functional, I guess I like having all the goods that come with Flex/Stock ROM.
I have to choose the Flex/Stock for all the apps that comes with it as long as it is debloated, but I can get rid of the bloat with a few apps.
I have been on AeonFlex 3 for a while and wanting to migrate but which ones are compatible?
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I have been bouncing back and forth between stock and AOSP, then tried a few flex rom.... I finally settled on Aeonflex too.
Coming from the Note 2 and beanstalk 4.4, Aeonflex Has what I was looking for, dark UI and stock apps.
1. A question should have been asking in Q&A sub-section, not in General.
2. I believe it is against the XDA rules to ask "which is best ROM"
Just give you a head up.
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1. A question should have been asking in Q&A sub-section, not in General.
2. I believe it is against the XDA rules to ask "which is best ROM"
Just give you a head up.
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Arctic Prodigy said:
Just curious as of 2-18-2014, which ROMs are best with the D803 variant?
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All u can do is test urself what fits u best...
But its still again the rules and wrong forum, as alread said....
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I have to say omni and carbon. both sick. of course that only means they are what I prefer, not that they are the best. good battery., no carrier boat /clunkyness.
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Mahdi ROM. I'm using it very smooth good customization.
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Best is what is best for the Individual Member....please "best" ROM threads, are not allowed. Thread Closed.