HEY OUR GREAT DEVELOPERS FOR THE LEGENDARY SONY ERICSSON XPERIA X10
As you know, days ago. Google has shown the Android 4.3 ... I Hope We will see Android 4.3, which is faster and stable than 4.2, in our great Xperia X10. Don't forget Xperia X10 was the First Sony with Android System, so Let's start a new project in this Amazing Smartphone ... It doesn't matter if the first Rom 4.3 for Xperia X10 is Google Edition, CM, AOSP ... Stock (lol) jaja ... Xperia X10 NEVER DIES
Thanks a lot
that may refer to tof37 or achotjan would like to work on it?
Of couse they would like to work on it ...
IT'S ALL ABOUT X10 NEVER DIES ... SO LET'S WAIT OUR GREAT DEVELOPERS CREATE A ROM 4.3 FOR XPERIA X10
It is hard to know what the thoughts of people are when they say they want Android 4.3 on an XPERIA X10i
I'm all for keeping the XPERIA X10i alive, but Android 4.3 would be in name only and a bit of eye candy.
OpenGL ES 3.0 is NEVER going to run on an Adreno 200 natively and even if you emulate OpenGL ES 3.0 in software, it's not going to improve the XPERIA X10i in any way as an OpenGL ES 3.0 game is hardly going to run on a 1GHz processor with 385MB RAM.
The 2D graphics'll never run a 720p Video in HW accelerated mode in anything other than GB 2.3.3 ‡
USB will only be for charging/PC data connection.
No Miracast, no Wi-Fi Direct, no OTG, no MHL, no BT 3.0+HS, no Dolby 5.1 audio, no 802.11n AND we only have 385MB of RAM
Personally I'd suggest developers harden Android 4.1,2 and see what more can be done to improve the Adreno 200 and overall stability/compatibility.
Now this in itself is no small ask as Qualcomm didn't (to my knowledge) release any Adreno 200 drivers for anything above GB 2.3.3
I'd like to see the XPERIA X10i live a full and rich life at Android 4.1.2 with a great GPU, rather than a desperate and reckless life beyond that.
The XPERIA X10i will truly live on when someone creates HW acceleration in the Adreno 200 above 2.3.3 ‡
‡ - I have not checked FeraVolt new Adreno mods
Dr Goodvibes said:
It is hard to know what the thoughts of people are when they say they want Android 4.3 on an XPERIA X10i
I'm all for keeping the XPERIA X10i alive, but Android 4.3 would be in name only and a bit of eye candy.
OpenGL ES 3.0 is NEVER going to run on an Adreno 200 natively and even if you emulate OpenGL ES 3.0 in software, it's not going to improve the XPERIA X10i in any way as an OpenGL ES 3.0 game is hardly going to run on a 1GHz processor with 385MB RAM.
The 2D graphics'll never run a 720p Video in HW accelerated mode in anything other than GB 2.3.3 ‡
USB will only be for charging/PC data connection.
No Miracast, no Wi-Fi Direct, no OTG, no MHL, no BT 3.0+HS, no Dolby 5.1 audio, no 802.11n AND we only have 385MB of RAM
Personally I'd suggest developers harden Android 4.1,2 and see what more can be done to improve the Adreno 200 and overall stability/compatibility.
Now this in itself is no small ask as Qualcomm didn't (to my knowledge) release any Adreno 200 drivers for anything above GB 2.3.3
I'd like to see the XPERIA X10i live a full and rich life at Android 4.1.2 with a great GPU, rather than a desperate and reckless life beyond that.
The XPERIA X10i will truly live on when someone creates HW acceleration in the Adreno 200 above 2.3.3 ‡
‡ - I have not checked FeraVolt new Adreno mods
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Wow It's so Dissapointed :'(
Ronald G V A said:
Wow It's so Dissapointed :'(
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Disappointed? I can't think why.
I use my XPERIA X10i v2.3.3 daily
1800mAh battery (1-5 days)
64GB SanDisk
Samba Filesharing allowing file sharing of 64GB microSD card
I have Link2SD on second partition
54 FPS 2D Graphics
DoomKernel clocked at ~1.15GHz
XPERIA S feature set with weather widget, screen print and etc
Stream Music(Neutron MP) and Videos(BSPlayer) from my NAS,
Watch live TV streamed from my NAS.
Generally 80MB RAM free operationally
XDA Developers will continue to improve the Android experience on the XPERIA X10i and for those still using this almost iconic device, there is much to look forward to. There is no reason to think there won't be improvements for the XPERIA X10i in the future. It may be components of Android 4.3 or some other version, but at the end of the day, it's all good.
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Disappointed? I can't think why.
I use my XPERIA X10i v2.3.3 daily
1800mAh battery (1-5 days)
64GB SanDisk
Samba Filesharing allowing file sharing of 64GB microSD card
I have Link2SD on second partition
54 FPS 2D Graphics
DoomKernel clocked at ~1.15GHz
XPERIA S feature set with weather widget, screen print and etc
Stream Music(Neutron MP) and Videos(BSPlayer) from my NAS,
Watch live TV streamed from my NAS.
Generally 80MB RAM free operationally
XDA Developers will continue to improve the Android experience on the XPERIA X10i and for those still using this almost iconic device, there is much to look forward to. There is no reason to think there won't be improvements for the XPERIA X10i in the future. It may be components of Android 4.3 or some other version, but at the end of the day, it's all good.
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!!! Heey Heeey Bro
I have GB Rom too Thanks for yout advices.. BUT I NEED YOU TO EXPLAIN ME SOMETHING...
I JUST BOUGHT A " SanDisk 32GB HC Class 10"" Micro SD, But When I boot my Phone, and It is in the Home Launcher, It crashes and Reboot :/ ... Can you help me? ... Because I think the Xperia X10 is Incompatible with 32GB MicroSD Card
What is Lindk2SD?? ... It can be possible, to system patition? ... Wow I really excited to hear that Explain me Senior Member
So DoomKernel is better than FeraKernel? :/
Since you gain nothing but a higher number, why are you dissapointed? 4.3 gives you nothing! Really.
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Disappointed? I can't think why.
I use my XPERIA X10i v2.3.3 daily
1800mAh battery (1-5 days)
64GB SanDisk
Samba Filesharing allowing file sharing of 64GB microSD card
I have Link2SD on second partition
54 FPS 2D Graphics
DoomKernel clocked at ~1.15GHz
XPERIA S feature set with weather widget, screen print and etc
Stream Music(Neutron MP) and Videos(BSPlayer) from my NAS,
Watch live TV streamed from my NAS.
Generally 80MB RAM free operationally
XDA Developers will continue to improve the Android experience on the XPERIA X10i and for those still using this almost iconic device, there is much to look forward to. There is no reason to think there won't be improvements for the XPERIA X10i in the future. It may be components of Android 4.3 or some other version, but at the end of the day, it's all good.
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Heeey Bro Can you explain that of the 64GB MicroSD??
Because I've just bought a MicroSD 32GB HC SanDisk and It doesn't work ... It makes crashes and Reboots in my Xperia X10 ... can you help me? ... and What is Link 2SD ?? Please I would like to have a second system partition, thanks a lot
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Heeey Bro Can you explain that of the 64GB MicroSD??
Because I've just bought a MicroSD 32GB HC SanDisk and It doesn't work ... It makes crashes and Reboots in my Xperia X10 ... can you help me? ... and What is Link 2SD ?? Please I would like to have a second system partition, thanks a lot
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Nothing to explain. It's a 64GB SanDisk Ultra microSDXC UHS-I, re-fromated to FAT32 with a cluster size of 32KB.
I've also used 32GB SankDisk cards without problems.
The Sony Ericsson X10i white paper states a 32GB microSD card is supported on an XPERIA X10i. (Revision 5 Sept 2010)
I suggest you open a Question & Answer post regarding your 32GB microSD card and find out where you went wrong or if the card is faulty/fake.
Google Play Link2SD then Google Link2SD as there's mountains of information on configuration options and partition tools to do it.
DoomKernel is one of many Kernels that provides 'robust' support for overclocking and additional features.
I use it because it supports my requirements, not because it's better or worse than any other Kernel.
Doom kernel make my phone lag, no matter what stock base rom or even stock rom
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Just wait for KLP 5.0 xD
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Just wait for KLP 5.0 xD
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Ok "Don't Believe" xD!! jajaja
YES I WILL WAIT ANDROID 5.0 AND I WILL BUY ANOTHER SONY SMARTPHONE
Ronald G V A said:
Ok "Don't Believe" xD!! jajaja
YES I WILL WAIT ANDROID 5.0 AND I WILL BUY ANOTHER SONY SMARTPHONE
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Haha mee too now iam using xperia neo my mother is using x10i with 2.3.4 achotjans xperia S rom and she is quite happy , iam also using GB because it is super stable and so fast and i have about 240 mb ram always free and my mother about 140 mb i just want to say stick with gb guys its the best
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Dr Goodvibes
I have a Sandisk MicroSD HC 32GB ... And everytime I put in the Xperia X10, the SD Makes the Phone Crash :/ ... you mentioned an app... please help me :/ because i think the xperia x10 only support 16GB MicroSD :/
Hi ! I'm french and i'm interessed by this project
My Xperia X10 is acctually on ferakernel V4 with the 4.1.2 rom. I have always 100 to 140 mb ram free but I think new features on the 4.3 can be interesting on our old X10
dekefake said:
Hi ! I'm french and i'm interessed by this project
My Xperia X10 is acctually on ferakernel V4 with the 4.1.2 rom. I have always 100 to 140 mb ram free but I think new features on the 4.3 can be interesting on our old X10
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jaja Yes me too I'm creating my own Rom based on Xperia X10 Z HD (IV-Final) jaja I removed all the bugs and errors that the rom has ... It has a lot, I think that I was so foolish to put the same apps in system and data ... Also It was stupid to put the Wallpapers picker in other folder called "wallpapers "" JAJA Well I'm improving that Rom a lot, and I'm starting for the scratches my JB rom and yes, i will change my signature soon Android 4.3 It seems that it needs a better hardware to work ...
where i can download 4.3 for x10 ?
this version dont have bug ?
SenatorPC said:
where i can download 4.3 for x10 ?
this version dont have bug ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438018
Take care my friend, Android 4.3 is more crazy and unstable in X10 than 4.2.2 ...
LET'S WAIT ANDROID 4.4 KITKAT ... THAT WILL SUPPORT LOW-END DEVICED LIKE OUR X10 !!
Ronald G V A said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438018
Take care my friend, Android 4.3 is more crazy and unstable in X10 than 4.2.2 ...
LET'S WAIT ANDROID 4.4 KITKAT ... THAT WILL SUPPORT LOW-END DEVICED LIKE OUR X10 !!
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IMHO: There is a flaw in the way your thinking.
x10 isn't a low end device (it was the flagship of SonyEricsson), but in 2013 it merely has become an old device.
It has good specs, but only if you compare it to similair devices in the year 2009/2010.
Android 4.4 has been made for devices with lower specs, but that does not mean that x10 is fully supported.
In other words: 4.4. can run on devices with lower RAM and CPU, but it still needs drivers...
Because x10 is an old device, i'm not sure if there are any driver to use.
Kind regards.
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I just got a mini pro and i like it, want to keep it but i read that the mp won't be able to run 2.2 due to hw limitations. Is this true? I can't get a clear answer and se are not being very forthcoming.
My concern is that the mp will become outdated in a year (i'll be on a contract) unless i root it but it's under warranty so that's not really a consideration at the moment.
I have an option to return the phone and exchange for an htc wildfire but it's dependant on whether the mini pro can run versions of android beyond 2.1 and how future proof it will be, even on 2.1.
Cheers.
Currently noone can update the x10's. While everybody is expecting 2.1 to arrive any second now, many think it'll be very unlikely that we will see any major update beyond 2.1.
That said, in the future it might be possible to update beyond 2.1 through root, flash etc., but this will forfeit yoiur warranty.
I don't know much about the Wildfire, but as it is from HTC I think it will see more future updates.
On the other hand, the X10 mini pro will remain a good phone, so I personally don't see the big nessecity yet in future updates. Also should we get major future updates, the phone should be able to run 2.2 without problems. Android 3.0 I don't know.
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Ok thanks. I was lead to believe that the mini pro wasn't capable of running anything beyond 2.1. It's good to finally get a sensible answer!
The battery life on the wildfire is supposed to terrible so i'd rather keep my mp and anyway i don't fancy having to set another phone up, i've just got it set up how i want. My other option is a W995 but then i'd miss out on Android...
Is it really likely though that SE won't update their xperia phones beyond 2.1, even the X10?
TJ221 said:
I just got a mini pro and i like it, want to keep it but i read that the mp won't be able to run 2.2 due to hw limitations. Is this true? I can't get a clear answer and se are not being very forthcoming.
My concern is that the mp will become outdated in a year (i'll be on a contract) unless i root it but it's under warranty so that's not really a consideration at the moment.
I have an option to return the phone and exchange for an htc wildfire but it's dependant on whether the mini pro can run versions of android beyond 2.1 and how future proof it will be, even on 2.1.
Cheers.
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Both mini and mini pro have better h/w than htc wildfire. Wild fire sports a 528 MHz 7225/7200a cpu, while mini/pro has 600 MHz 7227 cpu.
So, if wildfire can run froyo, so can mini/pro.
Whether we will see a future update from se for 2.2, is another question..
Knowing SE, I doubt that they are ever gonna make 2.2 available on x10. I could be wrong in my assesment though..
But we can always count on our own xda developers to crack the bootloader and make custom roms for it.
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li_boud said:
Both mini and mini pro have better h/w than htc wildfire. Wild fire sports a 528 MHz 7225/7200a cpu, while mini/pro has 600 MHz 7227 cpu.
So, if wildfire can run froyo, so can mini/pro.
Whether we will see a future update from se for 2.2, is another question..
Knowing SE, I doubt that they are ever gonna make 2.2 available on x10. I could be wrong in my assesment though..
But we can always count on our own xda developers to crack the bootloader and make custom roms for it.
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I thought it was the ram that determined the phones ability to run android. I read that a phone with less 128mb can't run 2.2, well not very well. That's what i was trying to find out from SE but couldn't get an answer.
I've seen the X10 2.1 vids anyway and it looks pretty good. Like bootchee says it's a good phone which is it's purpose fundamentally! The other stuff is icing on the cake but i've seen some pretty cool vids of the wildfire on 2.1, everything running superfast. The wildfire seems to have a lot more options and just overall better functionality as a smartphone.
Guess i'll just have to wait and see what the update brings.
I just want to reiterate the question. Can the mp definitely run 2.2? If not i have to consider whether i'll be happy with 2.1 for 2 years. Also what are the benefits of rooting? I read that 1.6 rooted with titanium backup was as good as 2.1.
RAM is very subjective. It depends on how many apps are open. Since google in their brilliance decided to build an operating system that keeps all apps open until the memory runs low, it's quite possible that 128mb of RAM isn't enough to play HD games and movies, but on a 320x240 screen why would you want to.
Secondly, the x10 mini has 170 mb of available RAM, not 128mb. The actual NAND chip on the phone is capable of 256mb RAM and 512mb ROM, so obviously SE have thought about "future proofing" the device to some extent. Why they limit it to 128mb available RAM and 256 accessible ROM I have no idea.
In answer to your question, if SE decided to carry out a few tweeks and workarounds here and there, then yes the X10 mini is more than capable of running Android 2.2. The 256mb minimum RAM you read about relates to the amount of RAM available to the OS. It has nothing to do with minimum hardware requirements for running FROYO.
The wilfire has a bigger screen but a slow (outdated) processor, which combined with HTC's bloated "SENSE", results in terrible lag, even on 2.1. I would hate to see it running 2.2.
I think the definitive answer you're looking for is "NO" don't buy an X10 mini if all you want is a 2.2 update, because at this stage it is unlikely SE will upgrade the OS to FROYO. HTC have promised a 2.2 update for the wildfire but I doubt this will go through, due mainly to stability issues. If you're that concerned go to youtube and watch some videos of custom 2.2 ROMs running on the wildfire - I think you will agree it's terrible.
Another option to look at is Huawei. They are releasing some very affordable handsets running 2.2 over the next few months.
Contrarian said:
RAM is very subjective. It depends on how many apps are open. Since google in their brilliance decided to build an operating system that keeps all apps open until the memory runs low, it's quite possible that 128mb of RAM isn't enough to play HD games and movies, but on a 320x240 screen why would you want to.
Secondly, the x10 mini has 170 mb of available RAM, not 128mb. The actual NAND chip on the phone is capable of 256mb RAM and 512mb ROM, so obviously SE have thought about "future proofing" the device to some extent. Why they limit it to 128mb available RAM and 256 accessible ROM I have no idea.
In answer to your question, if SE decided to carry out a few tweeks and workarounds here and there, then yes the X10 mini is more than capable of running Android 2.2. The 256mb minimum RAM you read about relates to the amount of RAM available to the OS. It has nothing to do with minimum hardware requirements for running FROYO.
The wilfire has a bigger screen but a slow (outdated) processor, which combined with HTC's bloated "SENSE", results in terrible lag, even on 2.1. I would hate to see it running 2.2.
I think the definitive answer you're looking for is "NO" don't buy an X10 mini if all you want is a 2.2 update, because at this stage it is unlikely SE will upgrade the OS to FROYO. HTC have promised a 2.2 update for the wildfire but I doubt this will go through, due mainly to stability issues. If you're that concerned go to youtube and watch some videos of custom 2.2 ROMs running on the wildfire - I think you will agree it's terrible.
Another option to look at is Huawei. They are releasing some very affordable handsets running 2.2 over the next few months.
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Hello,
thank you for the information, I was wondering why "cat /proc/meminfo" giving me so strange amount as 169688kB. Why isn't SE using all possible memory?
It's a marketing? If some memory is blocked, probably without recompiling the kernel is not so easy to enable it...
stillka said:
Hello,
thank you for the information, I was wondering why "cat /proc/meminfo" giving me so strange amount as 169688kB. Why isn't SE using all possible memory?
It's a marketing? If some memory is blocked, probably without recompiling the kernel is not so easy to enable it...
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Thats the amount of RAM available to you..
169688/1024 = 165 MB (approx)
I remember reading somewhere, dont remember where, that ram and rom size of m pro is 256 each.
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Contrarian said:
RAM is very subjective. It depends on how many apps are open. Since google in their brilliance decided to build an operating system that keeps all apps open until the memory runs low, it's quite possible that 128mb of RAM isn't enough to play HD games and movies, but on a 320x240 screen why would you want to.
Secondly, the x10 mini has 170 mb of available RAM, not 128mb. The actual NAND chip on the phone is capable of 256mb RAM and 512mb ROM, so obviously SE have thought about "future proofing" the device to some extent. Why they limit it to 128mb available RAM and 256 accessible ROM I have no idea.
In answer to your question, if SE decided to carry out a few tweeks and workarounds here and there, then yes the X10 mini is more than capable of running Android 2.2. The 256mb minimum RAM you read about relates to the amount of RAM available to the OS. It has nothing to do with minimum hardware requirements for running FROYO.
The wilfire has a bigger screen but a slow (outdated) processor, which combined with HTC's bloated "SENSE", results in terrible lag, even on 2.1. I would hate to see it running 2.2.
I think the definitive answer you're looking for is "NO" don't buy an X10 mini if all you want is a 2.2 update, because at this stage it is unlikely SE will upgrade the OS to FROYO. HTC have promised a 2.2 update for the wildfire but I doubt this will go through, due mainly to stability issues. If you're that concerned go to youtube and watch some videos of custom 2.2 ROMs running on the wildfire - I think you will agree it's terrible.
Another option to look at is Huawei. They are releasing some very affordable handsets running 2.2 over the next few months.
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Thanks for clarifying things for me. The amount of false/ misinformation out there is unbelievable!
To give the hardware that capability and then stop at 2.1 makes makes no sense. This is what i'm getting at with SE! So i take it MT and 16m colours are well within the capabilities of the X10?
Are they limiting the hardware so people will have to buy newer versions that run 2.2 and above? That's how it looks. Anyway SE claim that the 2.1 update will be equivalent to Android 2.2. Not sure how as it still won't play flash or 2.2 android apps...
Anyway i don't know if you read my first post but i already have the mp. I can exchange it for a W995 or a Wildfire but i like the mp and the android capabilities are great! It's practically free with the contract i'm on so in 6 months i could trade it in or buy another phone with better capabilities such as Huawai.
I'll check the htc out a bit more but from what you say it's off the table. That leaves the W995. I think i'll keep the mini pro and i'll keep an eye on the upcoming android phones.
If SE stop at 2.1 what about developments with xda? Are custom roms above 2.1 possible or will it be determined by the caps SE have put on the hardware?
Cheers!
In 2.1 update the available ram increased from 165mb to 176mb
ionutph said:
In 2.1 update the available ram increased from 165mb to 176mb
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It has a 256 mb ram chip...
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It has a 256 mb ram chip...
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How come only part of that is available?
this was something I've been wondering too. why limit the ram? isnt more better?
unknown13x in another thread has stated that SE has skipped 2.2 altogthr nd is working on 2.3 for the new devices. 2.3 reqs same reqs as froyo, so if we can run 2.2, we can run 2.3. All depends on SE.
@all: first of all thanks to the most advanced and leading forums in the field.
i would like to know that i have right now 2.1 update 1 on my xp 10 mini and there are updates also like 2.1 update 2 and so on... so will be able to update it and when they are coming???
Hello,
I have a LG p500 with a CM10 RC(jelly bean) and it is working great and fast.
I can buy a Xperia Sola with a good price now, but the fact that the stock rom is still GB and so far as I know no one knows for sure when the officially upgrade is coming (always postponed), is it worth my money?
The custom ICS ROMs in these forums work on Sola and if yes, are they any good?
Also I've read this in GMS Arena :
"512MB ram of which only 300MB is available at a time out of which 150MB will be consumed by its own launcher applications, so you have to deal with rest of 150 MB. Means laggy operations and hanging frequently."
Is it true?
Thanks
usamtodosomeunomepah said:
Hello,
I have a LG p500 with a CM10 RC(jelly bean) and it is working great and fast.
I can buy a Xperia Sola with a good price now, but the fact that the stock rom is still GB and so far as I know no one knows for sure when the officially upgrade is coming (always postponed), is it worth my money?
The custom ICS ROMs in these forums work on Sola and if yes, are they any good?
Also I've read this in GMS Arena :
"512MB ram of which only 300MB is available at a time out of which 150MB will be consumed by its own launcher applications, so you have to deal with rest of 150 MB. Means laggy operations and hanging frequently."
Is it true?
Thanks
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If ICS is a deal breaker i'd say go for the xperia U because it will get ICS faster and have more support.
about the ram, there is no lag at all ! you usually have 150mb free ram on stock GB ROM so i assume that on Cm9 it will be even better
I bought the xpU after having the Atrix 4G and I like it a lot more !
nathan96 said:
If ICS is a deal breaker i'd say go for the xperia U because it will get ICS faster and have more support.
about the ram, there is no lag at all ! you usually have 150mb free ram on stock GB ROM so i assume that on Cm9 it will be even better
I bought the xpU after having the Atrix 4G and I like it a lot more !
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Ok, but when will it be possible to put CM9 or 10 preferably on Sola? Only after the official ICS update?
Hi all, I'm hoping for discussion so I chose here instead of simple Q&A.
Like a lot of people here I'm looking ahead to my next phone purchase and I'm trying to see what went wrong with ICS on the Sola. The forum is filled with theads on problems, I won't list them.
Here's the crux of the issue; I read here: http://androidtechguru.blogspot.ie/2012/02/minimum-system-requirements-for-ice.html
that the head Mod of CyanogenMod says that the ICS mimimum spec is 256mb of RAM with a decent GPU, and seperately, other people say that 1ghz dual core, 512 RAM is recommended. The Sola has this precisely. Why is ICS so bad on it? You can Google many, many reviews of even high-end Sony phones on ICS and they still lag like a pensioner going down a motorway. Why?
Is it true that the Sola reserves some RAM related to the extra sensors in the screen? I read more people saying 1GB or RAM is needed for ICS to run smoothly. I noticed that reviewers on Techradar say Jelly Bean runs much better that ICS on the same specs. So, is 1GB of RAM the standard needed for ICS? How about CPU and GPU?
p.s. I should say that a Sony rep on their official forum recommended me to download a task manager to manage the RAM on the Sola...how revealing!
NOTE - Timescape now retired: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/14/rip-timescape-long-live-socialife/
Liked that motorway part
Btw
512mb is sufficient for ics (nexus s)
Its runs ics so smoothly
What sony does is that it adds an extra layer of Timescape launcher
Along wid that loads of bloatware
And regarding using task manager
Its worse one could do make phone unstable
Task manager kills app
Apps then reopen by themselves
Task manager again kills app
And the process continues till the battery is drained
Edit - I have same prblm on my xu sola n xu are twins
Thanks, I'm really trying to learn about how this works.
So, 512MB RAM for ICS, but perhaps more after a manufacturer has added their skin and apps?
Is there any other big problem with the specs for the Sola or U?
Battery drain, has anyone else noticed many of Sony's late 2012 medium-high end phones have 1900mha batteries, but reviews on GSMArena and TechRadar say their actual performance is about 1400/1500? (Check out the Ion, Acro S and others) The opposite can also be true but is rare from what I see - the iPhone5 and Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini have small batteries 1400/1500 but their battery performance is more like 1800-2000. I don't know what Apple and Samsung did to make it that good, but the stats tell me Sony is really messing something up to reduce the battery performance that badly despite 1900. Maybe that is the Timescape UI eating the battery?
I wont say that about Samsung bt for apple
I have used an iphone 3gs and a galaxy note (my dad's)
Note's battery backup is even worse than my xu (probably coz it has always swtiched on 3g n gmail)
I have never seen an android wid good battery (except my brothers htc desire v)
The best battery I got in 3gs
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My phone gives me a descent battery wid brains rom about 20hrs wid 4hrs of wifi, alot of messaging and hardly any calls
What about sola?
Have a look at this: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-4998.php
And the battery performance: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p2.php (bottom of this page)
I hope you wet yourself when you see this. I did. :laugh: :laugh:
64hrs?? Wtf??
I guess its due to intel chipset
I will collect money to buy this now I even beats my Nokia n86
Novathor also has an image of being power efficient
Bt I guess its the sony **** that pulls it down
drsanket_xperia_u said:
Liked that motorway part
Btw
512mb is sufficient for ics (nexus s)
Its runs ics so smoothly
What sony does is that it adds an extra layer of Timescape launcher
Along wid that loads of bloatware
And regarding using task manager
Its worse one could do make phone unstable
Task manager kills app
Apps then reopen by themselves
Task manager again kills app
And the process continues till the battery is drained
Edit - I have same prblm on my xu sola n xu are twins
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A normal task manager doesn't do this you're talking about an automated task killer.
It is a feature some of task managers out there have.
If you have a task manager with an auto kill feature you can, in most cases, disable it.
A task manager can help save battery juice, as long as you don't use any auto kill "features".
Its really confusing about Sola, I think the headline of this thread summarize everything.. It just failed.
Well sure thing for me now its not a ram issue, I'm using my Sola lately without task manager, and just by limiting background process to 3, it runs with 30-40 free ram even better and more stable than 120 by a task manager, Android has its own ram management unlike Windows mobile for example where free ram is something important.
I'm using "Watchdog" task manager where it kills only apps that eat CPU not Ram.
Slow performance always start after few days of using, like now I'm in third day without restarting device started to face random lags.
And I think JB could maybe run faster than ICS even with same specs, imo best os is the one able to run good on minimum or normal required specs, like Vista - Win7 thing on laptops , vista was older but crap comparing to win7 even on same specs.
And btw even Sony devices with 1G ram like P, has issues with performance.. So it's either a CPU issue, or Sony customization.
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i did notice that the facebook app sucks a lot of battery and resources from sola. On medium usage my phone goes well past a day, that is after i upgraded to .154 and uninstalling the facebook app
Check out the other Motorola phones released just before Christmas, they ALL have batteries above 2000mha! I have checked many reviews and they all seem to perform up to a very high standard. I have even chatted on here with guys who own these phones and they post battery stats lasting 2-3 days!! That's what I'm talking about...Motorola is apparently using a giant advertisment in the US saying 'A smartphone is not so smart if you have to leave it plugged into the wall all the time'.
I didn't notice the Xperia P had 1GB of RAM, and it's still slow??? I really think that's Sony's skin then. I've been reading many phones with 1GB of RAM that are really fast on ICS/JB.
By the way, that Motorola RAZR i...single core 2ghz, the GSMArena tests say that it performs better than most quad-core phones...shocking huh? Intel says the single core saves power.
drsanket_xperia_u said:
Liked that motorway part
Btw
512mb is sufficient for ics (nexus s)
Its runs ics so smoothly
What sony does is that it adds an extra layer of Timescape launcher
Along wid that loads of bloatware
And regarding using task manager
Its worse one could do make phone unstable
Task manager kills app
Apps then reopen by themselves
Task manager again kills app
And the process continues till the battery is drained
Edit - I have same prblm on my xu sola n xu are twins
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Well i own a xu and i cant agree with you, ics here works fine and i have lots of apps installed too, ram usage is high but system is smooth overall and i havent had a single crash or reboot yet (been almost 3 weeks with ics).Cant be happier with my phone.
Edit: Btw it is not rooted and its bootloader locked, runing ics stock.
Even my very low end LG p500 with 512MB ram and a arm v6 600Mhz cpu can run ics just fine, even with old kernel, lack of sources, hacks, etc. I was using oxygen ics at the time.
In my opinion it only require a proper rom building, where most of the companies are failing.
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diegonnc said:
Well i own a xu and i cant agree with you, ics here works fine and i have lots of apps installed too, ram usage is high but system is smooth overall and i havent had a single crash or reboot yet (been almost 3 weeks with ics).Cant be happier with my phone.
Edit: Btw it is not rooted and its bootloader locked, runing ics stock.
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My friend's XU also working great on ICS, it's also stock, not rooted, locked BL..
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I also have LG P500 and with lastest Jelly bean 4.1.2 build from XDA masters works super fast and smooth. Ram free is about 200MB, apps loads instantly. Battery last for 3 days...
diegonnc said:
Well i own a xu and i cant agree with you, ics here works fine and i have lots of apps installed too, ram usage is high but system is smooth overall and i havent had a single crash or reboot yet (been almost 3 weeks with ics).Cant be happier with my phone.
Edit: Btw it is not rooted and its bootloader locked, runing ics stock.
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Well guess u folks lucky, coz i had some major issues running ICS on my U. Was practically forced to first root (so as to use some root tools to get stuff done,) then Unlock BL for Custom ROM. (Very Happy with CM9.1 - Was pretty happy just using TheBrainROM also, but I did get a Lag once in a while -Not very common, just once in a while. Using CM fxp 202 atm, and it hasn't lagged even once. O_O )
NOTE:- I did have a LOT of apps (over 100 user apps i believe), stilll I have most of them on CM but, no problems at all. (battery seems a bit worse though i could be wrong as TheBrainROM had some really good battery times, - I would get upto 1 and half days with charge. -Phone never on extended standby.)
Also @Silver If u think Windows 7 was good, check the performance on Windows 8. Heck even games are running smoother and faster. :/
Sony ends Timescape for future phones, converts everything into one option user app called Sociallife: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/14/rip-timescape-long-live-socialife/
Maybe the 2013 phones will see a performance boost?
Well I'm using stock .54 without task managers for 5 days now without restart, device is running great, even with receiving calls while I'm using many apps.
For me using task managers with "Kill All" was the problem.
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Before the Sola, I had the 2011 Xperia Mini (ST15i). It came on 2.3 with upgrade to 4.0. I gave it to my brother when I got the Sola. Tonight, I played with that phone again on ICS. It is *SO* fast and smooth it really puts the Sola phone to shame.
Comparisson of these two phones?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=3947
This is another thing about buying new phones: dual-core does not necessarily mean better performance from what I've seen. A more powerful processor, yes.
SharpnShiny said:
Before the Sola, I had the 2011 Xperia Mini (ST15i). It came on 2.3 with upgrade to 4.0. I gave it to my brother when I got the Sola. Tonight, I played with that phone again on ICS. It is *SO* fast and smooth it really puts the Sola phone to shame.
Comparisson of these two phones?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=3947
This is another thing about buying new phones: dual-core does not necessarily mean better performance from what I've seen. A more powerful processor, yes.
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but your sola has so much more pixels to play with, it's normal that the mini is smoother
ilgreco112 said:
but your sola has so much more pixels to play with, it's normal that the mini is smoother
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I was thinking about keeping the Sola's resolution in the next phone, particularly to take it easy on the battery. Would you recommend that to keep the CPU relaxed too? I really don't know a lot about how this works but I'm keen to learn.
By the way, for anyone else interested on Android skins and updates, I spotted more hints on Sony's 2013 phone skins, Sony mentions it will be 'very light and easily updated':
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z-1119637/review
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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if you are rooted you can try to overclock your device, also install custom kernels with better governors. try a search on the forum, you will get a lot of custom kernels also find ways to overclock your device.
hope i helped.
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
luci.tal said:
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
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Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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leajian said:
Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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I've just installed Greenify and I will come back with a report.Thank you
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
Jack Harper said:
Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
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Performance is a subjective term..
It varies from person to person.
Well,games do lag on our phones beyond a point and I've seen every android device lag after sometime of use while doing heavy multitasking,etc
Android OS as such needs to undergo a lot of development .
Well,you do have to pay a price for the seamless customizing option it gives us..
Bertellio said:
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another thing.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
luci.tal said:
I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another think.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
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Would recommend you to switch to Super Jelly Bean v5.o + Fusion v5.5 kernel.
And yes, avoid overclocking. I never do. And if you switch to any SJB or moAOKP v3, you'd get enormous amount of RAM that you need not overclock!
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luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
martirio3000 said:
Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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Well said. :thumbup:
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Gingerbread is the best ROM for this phone!My phone(MT15i) running with 2.3.4 GB .60 ,with adreno booster v0.6 and OC at 1,2GHZ and I can say,This is the max. of the phone!
martirio3000 said:
Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
luci.tal said:
I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
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Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
martirio3000 said:
Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
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You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
luci.tal said:
You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
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actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
martirio3000 said:
actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
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Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
Oh,and i have another question(about CSR Racing).When I am on stock gb or ics when i press to shift the gears it goes late(doesn't matter if i oc or not).I mean like 3 sec late.But when i am on a custom rom it changes the gear perfectly.Why is that happening?
luci.tal said:
Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
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Well it seems to be lighter and probably I guess more optimized. Ram doesnt matter for performance in this case. Gingerbead was made to work on devices with even lower ram thats why no problems excists. Also my guess is tha Jb can work on even less ram smooth enough. Ram in android is mostly occupied by cached processes which are "useless" for the Os to operate correctly.
Anyway about csr racing i know nothing ).
Hi everyone
I bought xperia mini pro (sk17i) 2 years ago now and i'm sure that this phone is unique and should have a final version of his rom and kernel. Now phones are bigger and bigger and leave physical keyboard, thats boring so why don't we make our xperia MDPI better than ever ?
The project is nice but will take long hard work and many decisions : will the rom be based on the stock, aosp, caf ?
IDEA
Android L is coming soon, and it will be port on the xperia z3. Maybe a port with fine tweak will be great, i think we should oc the processor to 1,3 ghz to smartass v2 to haave a good battery and general performance.
But question is : what we want on the rom ? Pure android ? Sony's android ? or stock MDPI xperia style ?
So what you think of that ? I could do all of that if you tell your opinion
REgards
Stock android with some sony stuff..!!
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Good idea but the question is witch sony stuff ? I think the general ui might be ported, but witch one ? Xperia z3 ui (with launcher) may be slow....
arnaud39 said:
Good idea but the question is witch sony stuff ? I think the general ui might be ported, but witch one ? Xperia z3 ui (with launcher) may be slow....
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Do a pure AOSP of KK!
tomorow i will start to make a plan but i think that i'll need a team because i can't do everything, like the kernel. So if your are interesting just pm me
Do you care about batterie life ?
i wish for pure sony on kitkat version, having cybershot(not available but please), fm radio(not available but please), bravia engine, xloud, with updated sony apps like movies walkman and i think quikpic is the best gallery app, cyanogen app launcher but pure sony themes and logo apps it should be nice too if the rom had viperforandroid sound mod with good ram and battery management. i think i am contented with my live with walkman if this rom is push and begin to develop
this my i think my wants for my live with walkman
mean that i will make a theme or use existing like this one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724836 Can you tell me what about your battery life ? Is it enough good to overclock to 1.5 GHZ ?
arnaud39 said:
mean that i will make a theme or use existing like this one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724836 Can you tell me what about your battery life ? Is it enough good to overclock to 1.5 GHZ ?
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overclocking will drain battery faster, make it to the standard and maybe i suggest to build it with undervolt support. yup that theme is awesome
moolokow said:
overclocking will drain battery faster, make it to the standard and maybe i suggest to build it with undervolt support. yup that theme is awesome
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its too soon to talk about andrid l. if we cant fix issues in earlier versions of android how we will fix them in the new one ?