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Hello - this is a pretty n00bish question but I have had a hard time finding the exact answer I was looking for on this threads and on Google. The Thunderbolt is my first Android phone, and I got it last week and already rooted it with Das BAMF Remix 1.6.3. I also have WidgetLocker, Launcher Pro, and other programs to really customize the phone. I was playing around with the DAS Bamf Toolkit and I was noticing the CPU and governor settings. I was wondering what CPU settings and governor settings people use? Right now I have the default, which is 1.037 Ghz at max frequency, 245 Mhz at min frequency, and using the ondemand governor. I have seen a lot of people use the smartass governor, and I was wondering what the difference does - especially between interactive and conservative (powersave and performance I can guess at what they specialize in). What would be the best settings for optimizing battery life while still having good performance? I know a lot of people say to do your own testing and find out what works best for your phone and your needs, but I am just curious at what other people work at and how they like their settings.
Another question I have it about different kernels. Right now I am using the kernel that came with Das BAMF Remix 1.6.3 (2.6.32.21.bamf_4.4.7-g21c0620-dirty (by a adrynalyne #1)), but I know some people have been using Imoseyon's kernels. Do people find their phone more or less stable when using Imoseyon's kernel on Das BAMF instead of using adrynalyne's kernel? (I figured since he was one of the people who developed Das BAMF, his kernel would work best, but it seems to me a lot of people have been mixing/matching).
One final random question that I thought of while writing this thread, I also only ever flashed Das BAMF Remix 1.6.3; I never flashed any new radio or anything like that because at first I assumed it came with the ROM, but reading some threads on the forum, it seems that comes separate, and I am not sure if the stock/leaked radio is better/worse for battery or if it works with the ROM.
Again, sorry if these sound like very amateur questions but I just want some clarifying on these things and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!
Other information about my phone:
Android Version: 2.2.1
Baseband Version: 1.16.00.0402w_1
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.21.bamf_4.4.7-g21c0620-dirty (by a adrynalyne #1)
Build Number: 1.13.605.7_Das_BAMF_Remix_1.6.3
Software Number: 1.13.605.7
Expiramenting with what combination works for you is the best idea, HOWEVER, always backup what works, and make sure you have the right radio for the ROM you're flashing. Three quarters of what makes this fun is funding out what will and will not make your phone better. The other half is learning how to fix what you just broke.
Also, In my expierience, overclocking to anything over 1.6ghz causes problems.
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heres a list of readios ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045081 im on das bamf 1.6.3 with the first one on this list and it works great. also im on that same kernel overclocked to 1280 max and 368 min and i have great speed and battery life (also using setcpu and underclocking to 368 max when screen off so thats probably why ). using the ondemand governer. never tried smart ass but heard good things. the conservative is good for saving battery i use it on my screen off profile.
Awesome, I am going to try to flash that radio... Is it bad that I am not flashing it around the time I flashed the ROM, or would that still be fine? And again, I am sorry if this next question sounds amateur, but to flash it, I would just copy the PG05IMG.zip to my SD Card, reboot my phone in Bootloader (or Recovery?) and install the radio from there (assuming I first wipe the cache/dalvik, or do I need not to do that for radio?).
My battery life is fine, I have the extended battery and I get about 31 hours (but I am on Wi-Fi a lot instead of 3G, which I heard is better for battery, and I am not that heavy of downloading/games), but I heard people getting 2+ days, so maybe flashing this newer radio may show improvements, who knows, ha.
I will have to download SetCPU, because at first I thought you can only change the CPU settings on the Das BAMF Toolkit, but it looks like SetCPU has a lot more options. Dak_181, when you say you have great battery life/speed, how much out of your battery do you get?
BACKUP when making these changes. 10 minutes can save you an hour.
Right, I use Nandroid and Titanium Backup - if I were to flash a new radio as well as Imoseyon's 2.5.1 kernel, should there be an order I do it in (radio first, then kernel, or kernel first, then radio?), or does it not matter?
smartass is interactive gov with some tweaks (interactive makes the CPU clock up faster when you interact with the screen) and basically does a conservative screen off automatically. i think the max clock speed on the TB Is like 400 while the screen is off. i might be wrong on that number but you get the idea.
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smartass is interactive gov with some tweaks (interactive makes the CPU clock up faster when you interact with the screen) and basically does a conservative screen off automatically. i think the max clock speed on the TB Is like 400 while the screen is off. i might be wrong on that number but you get the idea.
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InteractiveX sets the cpu @ about 250 ish when the screen is off. That is the lowest idle state for the most part, I did however see some testimg trying to get 184mhz to work.
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Awesome, I am going to try to flash that radio... Is it bad that I am not flashing it around the time I flashed the ROM, or would that still be fine? And again, I am sorry if this next question sounds amateur, but to flash it, I would just copy the PG05IMG.zip to my SD Card, reboot my phone in Bootloader (or Recovery?) and install the radio from there (assuming I first wipe the cache/dalvik, or do I need not to do that for radio?).
My battery life is fine, I have the extended battery and I get about 31 hours (but I am on Wi-Fi a lot instead of 3G, which I heard is better for battery, and I am not that heavy of downloading/games), but I heard people getting 2+ days, so maybe flashing this newer radio may show improvements, who knows, ha.
I will have to download SetCPU, because at first I thought you can only change the CPU settings on the Das BAMF Toolkit, but it looks like SetCPU has a lot more options. Dak_181, when you say you have great battery life/speed, how much out of your battery do you get?
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it doesnt matter when you flash the radio, and you dont need to wipe data or cache. to install put it on the root of your sd card and reboot into.. recovery? whichever one you get to by powering off then holding down volume and power untill it starts up. it will find the update and install it automatically then reboot. make sure to delete it from sd card right away or youll get problems next time your flash anything. and i got about 15 hours with the stock battery and pretty consistence use in a low coverage area (bouncing between 1x and nothing all day).
15 hours with NO 4G I presume? I got about 8 hours of medium use in a good 4G coverage area. I am running BAMF 1.63 with BAMF Toolkit CPU on SmartAss gov. No overlooking.
Does it make a big difference to install the kernel first or the radio first? Also, does anyone think they find better results using Imoseyon's 2.5.1 kernel on Das BAMF Remix 1.6.3, or do they find using the stock kernel for that is best since it was made for that ROM?
And thanks for all the help about installing!
I am getting ridiculously good battery life and performance with Das Bamf 1.6.3 and Imoseyon's leankernel 2.5 running on extreme with custom undervoltage and interactiveX governor.
One of the key contributors to my battery life is the custom undervoltage. The leankernel extreme is already undervolted, but to be compatible with more TBs it isn't undervolted as much as it can be. After the tweaks i made, which included setting the min clock speed to 368 since I have it using the same low voltage as 245 (750 mv).
I have heard that smartass also gives great battery life with imoseyon's kernel, but since interactiveX has been so good I have had no desire to switch.
I hope that helps!
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15 hours with NO 4G I presume? I got about 8 hours of medium use in a good 4G coverage area. I am running BAMF 1.63 with BAMF Toolkit CPU on SmartAss gov. No overlooking.
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thats right. it was part wifi and part 1x/nothing. i have crappy service in my area. also recently learned that having task killers is useless on the thunderbolt and its actually draining my battery. gonna see if it changes without it today
If I were to install the radio using ClockwordMod Recovery (I guess the option to install .zip from SD Card), and it happens there is something wrong and I want to go back to the stock radio I had, would that be where Titanium Backup/Nandroid comes in play, or do they not backup radio stuff, and I would have to find another .zip of the stock radio?
(Again, sorry if this sounds n00bish, I am just very new to this and I want to be sure I know what I am doing, I appreciate all the help I am getting here, it is awesome )
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I am getting ridiculously good battery life and performance with Das Bamf 1.6.3 and Imoseyon's leankernel 2.5 running on extreme with custom undervoltage and interactiveX governor.
One of the key contributors to my battery life is the custom undervoltage. The leankernel extreme is already undervolted, but to be compatible with more TBs it isn't undervolted as much as it can be. After the tweaks i made, which included setting the min clock speed to 368 since I have it using the same low voltage as 245 (750 mv).
I have heard that smartass also gives great battery life with imoseyon's kernel, but since interactiveX has been so good I have had no desire to switch.
I hope that helps!
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I know about managing the CPU clock, but what is undervolting do? I don't have that option in my ROM, so do I have to download it somewhere?
What exactly the SmartAss governor do?
Yeah, I second lanwarrior, I am confused at how exactly to undervolt my phone? Is that just in the CPU settings when you go and change them in SetCPU or Das BAMF Toolkit?
Radios, have to be renamed to that special name(PG..... Whatever it is lol) and on the root of the SD card. Then you go to hboot (power + volume down when booting) and it will automatically scan for the file and ask to install if it does.
Trying to install the radio from recovery won't work to my knowledge because it can't update the radio that way I believe, only through hboot.
And to revert back to an older radio, there is plenty of radios out there to try and see which one works. If you are planning to upgrade to the new gingerbread radio that was leaked, I'd highly suggest you wait as because of the recent(today) rumors of it super bricking phones. If I left anything out about the radio, feel free to ask.
About the kernels, I'm not too sure about. I do know about the governors mostly, as for the underclocking , it just means that people are making their lowest CPU speed (the Min CPU setting mostly) go lower than normal, pretty much like the concept of overclocking. Kernels tend to be the same but tweaked in many different ways, like how the voltage is and how specific you can be with setting a specific CPU speed.
Some kernels also have more/better tweaks making them faster and more battery efficient.
Best thing to do, is mix and match these things to find the one that you find that works best.
And one last note: ALWAYS MAKE BACK UPS.
I have learned that multiple times by now, especially when screwing around with that stuff
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Awesome, thanks so much for your help. I just recently found this thread as well that gives good explanations on how to flash using ABD (I am not using their radio, but their instructions are nice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048128). I still might just copy it on my SD card and then try through Bootloader, the way you described (sounds a little easier to do). And no no, I was not planning on doing the GB radio - I am staying away from GB ROMs and that of sort until the actual release of it and people have been using the ROMs for a bit and know it is stable/will not brick the phone - I am fine with Froyo for now. I plan on just installing the first radio link here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048128, which is the 1.13.605.7 CDMA/LTE radio combo - I have been told that works fine, but knowing my luck, something might go wrong, ha).
Based on some threads I have been reading, Imoseyon 2.5.1 kernel seems to work very well and seems to have no problem with Das BAMF Remix 1.6.3. I think I might try installing the radio tomorrow, then the kernel, then installing SetCPU and playing around with the SmartAss governor a bit since that also seems to be popular (even though I am not 100% on what it does yet, ha, but I guess I will find out).
I currently get around 31 hours of battery life (with extended battery) on mainly just Wi-Fi and doing minimal downloading and doing some texting/calls, which seems good, but I feel there are a lot of people getting even more so I might try to get more out of my battery.
Well like I said, find what works best and always backup! Haha. I went through a couple different radios to find the best one for me. The other one I tried, would make me reboot a couple times a day randomly. And now the one I'm on, not a single reboot since it has been installed.
But others say it the other way with this one rebooting and the other working, so just gotta find the best.
And don't forget to delete the radio off the SD card root ASAP just in case you get stuck rebooting and need to go to recovery. (Only way to get in without fully booting is through hboot, which will try to install the radio every time only unless it is deleted. ) believe me I have been stuck in a bootloop with a radio on the SD card lol. Only way around it was use my sisters phone to delete the radio from the SD card
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Oh jeez, thanks for the advice. If you do not mind me asking, which radio are you using/which one gave you the random reboots a day one? Which ROM are you on (if you are rooted)?
I know how to use a search button, I have been on forums for a LONG time.
I also know how to use google. That being said, I have done hours (literally) of reading, learning, and attempting to choose and run the best kernel for my phone.
I would like some personal input from community if I could.
I have looked extensively into Imnuts and Nemesis2all's kernels.
I want one that will give me a tiny speed boost, but more so one designed to give me the longest battery life I can get while still containing the ability to run at a decent enough speed.
Any input would be great.
Edit-I guess it would be nice for you guys to know as well, I am running Evil Fascination 3.6.0, with the black mods =]
Ive heard both good and bad between these two kernels. Everyones phone is different and results will vary. Imnuts has a fixed undervolted setting either 100mv or 50mv but the limit is 1000mhz so theres no overclocking. Nemesis' OTB it is customized through voltage control app on which frequency steps you want to undervolt and you can overclock the kernel past 1000mhz for faster speeds. Ive also had good experiences with Comavolt (undervolted by -75mv) on SC 2.9.2 but I havent tried it out with CR 2.0 yet. If you arent into messing around with the voltage settings too much go with Imnuts or Comavolt. I suggest giving 4 days on each kernel with a battery stat wipe prior to see which one to settle with. Hope this helps!
Thanks man.
That's the kind of reply I was looking for. I think I am going to try out comavolt for a few days.
And do a full battery stats wipe, I may try and dig and see if I can locate an app that can log, and show me in much more detail where my battery life might be going, rather then just the silly android one in our menus ( I am fan of detailing when it comes to performance. )
I will post up in case any one else has concerns or questions whether to which to choose. Or if anyone else has an personal inout I would gladly take it into consideration.
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Thanks man.
That's the kind of reply I was looking for. I think I am going to try out comavolt for a few days.
And do a full battery stats wipe, I may try and dig and see if I can locate an app that can log, and show me in much more detail where my battery life might be going, rather then just the silly android one in our menus ( I am fan of detailing when it comes to performance. )
I will post up in case any one else has concerns or questions whether to which to choose. Or if anyone else has an personal inout I would gladly take it into consideration.
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CPU Spy and Spare Parts are two good apps for the kind of info you are looking for on battery usage and more.
Also, being that I am on evil fascination.
IS it considered to be more a AOSP rom, or is it something else?
And give the two options pretty much explained to me, does anyone know if theses are STRICTLY zip? Or can they be had in an ODIN compatible format as well, (hate flashing from sd card if I don't have to.)
I had been using Comavolt with Comm 1.3 until I went to PBJ with the Comm 2.0. I will see how it is with PNJ. I had very good result with Comavolt; so I hope that helps out.
EF is a touch wiz rom
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I am running otb. OTB lets you change the clockspeed and voltage. Effectively, you can undervolt, overclock, or both in whatever combination. I have a voltage control app on com rom that makes it easy. I'm not too aggressive, and I've not had a single issue out of it (performance or stability).
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Personally, I believe that there's no point to overclocking your phone other than being able to say "my phone is overclocked." I've always gone for battery life when choosing kernels and I've never had performance issues. I've had good experiences with all of imnuts' 100-mv UV kernels. I just put SetCPU on conservative and forget it.
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i'm running stock, debloated ED01 and nemisis2all's OTB 1.6 on stock settings flie for my phone and the battery life is great for me. you can tweak the clock speed and voltage really easily with the recommended voltage control app that's free from the market.
I am coming from the Droid X where we were not able to change the Kernal. So all this Kernal stuff is kind of new to me. I finally rooted yesterday and am running viper with LK DNA .94... So what is the best app to use for tuning the Kernal? Is this necessary? Is their a thread where I can read up on this?
Thanks for your help
Either use trickster mod or system tuner.
You can lower the voltage(save battery), up the clock speed and change the governer(change performance/battery life), etc.
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So what is the best app to use for tuning the Kernal? Is this necessary? Is their a thread where I can read up on this?
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There are a few to choose from, but system tuner works well. Keep in mind though that it is completely optional to overclock/undervolt, and the kernels work well as is. Overclocking too high can damage the phone (I recommend not going over the stock 1.5GHz unless you know what your doing), and undervolting can make the phone crash frequently. If your read up on a few guides it can be done completely safely, but you may find you prefer to leave the kernel's default settings as they are known to be safe and stable and are already optimized over the stock kernel.
I installed CM10.1 nightly on my fascinate a few days back and it has been working pretty good. I had to install a memory manager to kill tasks more often for me. Then I remembered an old app I purchased a couple years back. set cpu, I went ahead and installed that and overclocked 1200/400 and it made the phone come to life. things seem to run really smooth. Not an advertisement as much of helpful hint in case you were not aware.
Thanks for all your guys help this week setting me strait on getting my phone working.
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I installed CM10.1 nightly on my fascinate a few days back and it has been working pretty good. I had to install a memory manager to kill tasks more often for me. Then I remembered an old app I purchased a couple years back. set cpu, I went ahead and installed that and overclocked 1200/400 and it made the phone come to life. things seem to run really smooth. Not an advertisement as much of helpful hint in case you were not aware.
Thanks for all your guys help this week setting me strait on getting my phone working.
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Your not suppose to use a task killer it hurts the phone very badly if you enable KSM in performance menu and zram you will notice it works the best. And set CPU has problems with jb like it could boot loop your device its better to use the built in performance menu
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Yes, the stock Performance menu options are your better choice for over-clocking and memory management.
If you don't see the Performance menu under system settings, you need to enable developer mode by selecting About Phone, then tapping on the android version info about a dozen times.
Regarding zram, I'll need to give it another try... Definitely go with ksm enabled.
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The reason task-killers don't work well is because android changed the way it handles multi-tasking so that once you kill a process, it will bring it back anyway, so that if you keep trying to kill things you will actually waste more battery because it will constantly be coming back. Android is actually very good at managing memory and doesn't need your help to do it.
I only use KSM myself because I was getting lag after a while using zram, but maybe it was something I was doing wrong with the settings. My other settings as of now are Interactive governor (min 200 - max 1200) and noop scheduler.
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The reason task-killers don't work well is because android changed the way it handles multi-tasking so that once you kill a process, it will bring it back anyway, so that if you keep trying to kill things you will actually waste more battery because it will constantly be coming back. Android is actually very good at managing memory and doesn't need your help to do it.
I only use KSM myself because I was getting lag after a while using zram, but maybe it was something I was doing wrong with the settings. My other settings as of now are Interactive governor (min 200 - max 1200) and noop scheduler.
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Noop is one of the worse schedulers not asking you to change but row an so is the best
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Noop is one of the worse schedulers not asking you to change but row an so is the best
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I usually use SIO but since I'm on the default kernel it's not an option. I tried ROW for a few days but it was making my music skip sometimes for some reason (especially while mutli-tasking while playing music), and noop doesn't seem to give me as many problems like that... so I'm not really sure. CFQ didn't seem to be that great either, so I'm hoping SIO will be added soon
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I usually use SIO but since I'm on the default kernel it's not an option. I tried ROW for a few days but it was making my music skip sometimes for some reason (especially while mutli-tasking while playing music), and noop doesn't seem to give me as many problems like that... so I'm not really sure. CFQ didn't seem to be that great either, so I'm hoping SIO will be added soon
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Sio has always been great to me even the benchmarks give me crazy scores when using sio
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zRam seems a zero-sum gain - or worse - on this phone
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The reason task-killers don't work well is because android changed the way it handles multi-tasking so that once you kill a process, it will bring it back anyway, so that if you keep trying to kill things you will actually waste more battery because it will constantly be coming back. Android is actually very good at managing memory and doesn't need your help to do it.
I only use KSM myself because I was getting lag after a while using zram, but maybe it was something I was doing wrong with the settings. My other settings as of now are Interactive governor (min 200 - max 1200) and noop scheduler.
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I just gave zRam a spin and experienced noticeable lag with what I do as a result. I have "Allow purging of assets" and KSM checked.
For the I/O Scheduler, ROW seems better than the CFQ I had been running. Running the interactive CPU governor. 1200/100 CPU speeds.
Seems good.
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I just gave zRam a spin and experienced noticeable lag with what I do as a result. I have "Allow purging of assets" and KSM checked.
For the I/O Scheduler, ROW seems better than the CFQ I had been running. Running the interactive CPU governor. 1200/100 CPU speeds.
Seems good.
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Ditto, except with purging checked I'm pretty sure I was getting lag from that too after a while, so on mine I only left KSM on. ROW also does seem the best, however lately it seems no matter what scheduler I choose I get music that skips every couple of minutes or so, but I think that's a rom issue and not so much a scheduler issue. I've always used 200 minimum so that my phone is snappier when waking up, but that's just a personal preference.
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Ditto, except with purging checked I'm pretty sure I was getting lag from that too after a while, so on mine I only left KSM on. ROW also does seem the best, however lately it seems no matter what scheduler I choose I get music that skips every couple of minutes or so, but I think that's a rom issue and not so much a scheduler issue. I've always used 200 minimum so that my phone is snappier when waking up, but that's just a personal preference.
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I don't get music skipping hellybelly
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I don't get music skipping hellybelly
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I definitely do want to try hellybelly, but right now I just don't have the patience to set up all my apps again so maybe on my day off I'll git it a whirl. How's battery life on it?
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I definitely do want to try hellybelly, but right now I just don't have the patience to set up all my apps again so maybe on my day off I'll git it a whirl. How's battery life on it?
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You might try a dirty flash to Helly after taking a backup (just wipe cache & Dalvik). It's based on cm10.1 so you should be all right...
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I definitely do want to try hellybelly, but right now I just don't have the patience to set up all my apps again so maybe on my day off I'll git it a whirl. How's battery life on it?
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Battery life is crazy good and I wouldn't recomeend dirty because it includes a whole different kernel and such and a lot of little things changed from cm10.1
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You might try a dirty flash to Helly after taking a backup (just wipe cache & Dalvik). It's based on cm10.1 so you should be all right...
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Its nothing like cm10.1 lol it has a whole different kernel and a while lot of other stuff lol
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Thanks man, I've been looking into changing settings recently, might try it out.
dirty-flash between CM10 and HellyBean = no problem (apparently)
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Battery life is crazy good and I wouldn't recomeend dirty because it includes a whole different kernel and such and a lot of little things changed from cm10.1
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Its nothing like cm10.1 lol it has a whole different kernel and a while lot of other stuff lol
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I simply said that Helly is based upon CM10.1, and it is. Anyway, I just did a dirty flash (cache+dalvik wipe only) from the 02/22 build of CM10.1 to the latest HellyBean and it works fine. Actually, with the 1400mHz overclocking it was working really smoothly - although the rate of battery drain was apparent...
My hesitation in sticking with hellybean is based on my lack of understanding on how/if all of JT1134's ongoing fascinate-specific kernel/framework efforts, that are going into the CM10 nightlies, are being merged into the hellybean kernel... I guess I should go over to DT's thread and ask . Perhaps he's got all that happening whenever he merges the CM10 source updates...
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I simply said that Helly is based upon CM10.1, and it is. Anyway, I just did a dirty flash (cache+dalvik wipe only) from the 02/22 build of CM10.1 to the latest HellyBean and it works fine. Actually, with the 1400mHz overclocking it was working really smoothly - although the rate of battery drain was apparent...
My hesitation in sticking with hellybean is based on my lack of understanding on how/if all of JT1134's ongoing fascinate-specific kernel/framework efforts, that are going into the CM10 nightlies, are being merged into the hellybean kernel... I guess I should go over to DT's thread and ask . Perhaps he's got all that happening whenever he merges the CM10 source updates...
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All the merges go fine the merges to the cm kernel merges into the devil kernel
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Well I decided to try Helly Bean and so far so good, on SmartassV2 and ROW - no skipping music and everything is really snappy. Battery life seems noticeably worse than pure CM 10.1 but nothing that still can't get me through the day. I wish the Devil settings were baked into the rom settings like they used to be, it's annoying to have to use 3rd party apps to control it. I really like the standalone AOKP performance settings apk but settings don't stick after reboot
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Well I decided to try Helly Bean and so far so good, on SmartassV2 and ROW - no skipping music and everything is really snappy. Battery life seems noticeably worse than pure CM 10.1 but nothing that still can't get me through the day. I wish the Devil settings were baked into the rom settings like they used to be, it's annoying to have to use 3rd party apps to control it. I really like the standalone AOKP performance settings apk but settings don't stick after reboot
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They are baked in just tap build number 10 times it only has the stuff available in performance right now the only other feature that isn't in performance is touch wake
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They are baked in just tap build number 10 times it only has the stuff available in performance right now the only other feature that isn't in performance is touch wake
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Oh thanks man, totally missed that one. Also, it's missing all of the RAM settings like XL and such but I never used that anyway so this will work just fine so thanks again
Crawshayi said:
Oh thanks man, totally missed that one. Also, it's missing all of the RAM settings like XL and such but I never used that anyway so this will work just fine so thanks again
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Well I done even thinks that's available yet dt is still in the procces of adding features like that
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I've always had absolutely outstanding battery life with sense roms, granted I use custom kernels with undervolting. I've flashed basically every ROM here and I usually get maybe a full day out of sense under heavy usage and maybe half a day out of AOSP. Can somebody explain why? I'd always thought the SenseUI used more resources and had more backgrounded process running than AOSP. Benchmarking also reflects that. But I still get more usage from sense than aosp. Am I missing something? I also used custom kernels with aosp and undervolted.
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I'm probably wrong but the phone was built for sense not aosp. I've wondered the same thing myself.
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polar2792 said:
I'm probably wrong but the phone was built for sense not aosp. I've wondered the same thing myself.
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I don't think physical aspects are the reason for battery life here though. You'd think a ROM running fewer processes would have better life, but here it's the opposite. Unless Sense actually DOES run fewer system apps than aosp does...
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I've had better luck on MeanROM, which is Sense based than AOKP, but I'm new to the latter.
Does anyone on here run AOSP-based ROM's and get a full day's worth of battery life? Any tips/tricks for those of us on here having battery life issues with AOSP?
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Does anyone on here run AOSP-based ROM's and get a full day's worth of battery life? Any tips/tricks for those of us on here having battery life issues with AOSP?
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Depends on what aosp rom you're talking about. 4.4 naturally sucks more battery than 4.3 does. I recommend using tasker to switch off data when your screen is off, and reactivate every 15 minutes or so to make sure you still get background syncing. Not my idea, someone else posted this and it works great. Also undervolt if possible (make sure to stability test) and reduce screen brightness. Screen on uses a surprising amount of battery.
I already use Llama to contol wifi/GPS/BT and cycle mobile connections with the screen off. You need a custom kernel to undervolt, right? What program do you use to control that?
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I already use Llama to contol wifi/GPS/BT and cycle mobile connections with the screen off. You need a custom kernel to undervolt, right? What program do you use to contro that?
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I use kernel tuner. Be careful to not set anything to boot until you've thoroughly tested voltages.
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What settings on kernel tuner have you gotten away with changing without causing apps to FC or the phone to randomly reboot? I've played around with the governors a little bit, but I'm not familiar with all of the options in kernel tuner.
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What settings on kernel tuner have you gotten away with changing without causing apps to FC or the phone to randomly reboot? I've played around with the governors a little bit, but I'm not familiar with all of the options in kernel tuner.
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I anyways is interactive. Undervolt in will require extensive testing on your part since no phone is the same so my voltages may not work on your device. I don't touch anything that's in the governor mod section since I don't know what I'm doing there.
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