prestigio pmp 5588 C duo (MultiPad 8.0 HD) root - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

well, i hope this will pass cause I am a noob here..
As an owner of this pretty much cheap and quite alright device I had hard time finding proper root method but in the end it was found..
Mine was already on 4.2.1 and the rest is as usual 1,5ghz dual core, mali 400 graphics, and apparently cortex a7 not a9 as on the box.. but who cares, right!?
so i got to the file (its actually based on crystal_root method from xda but some smart guy somewhere just made it work for 4.2 generic tablet ) I apologize if this si mentioned somewhere else, and I couldn't reply to crystal root board cause i am a noob, but I am sure some people will find this useful, that's all.
ok...you can chat here with me untill i got those 10 posts to upload link, you can google "Aigo M80E - JB 4.2.1 - help with rooting (killing cell standby)" or you can be a good soul and my first mate here and paste link
Cheers!

Hello,
I have the same model, and been looking for root.
Thanks.
MS!

prestigio 8.0 hd root (JB 4.2.1)
copy this file to sd card go to recovery and install

New firmware
New firmware available for our tablet:
PMP5588C_20140102_v1.0.42:
http://de05.dl.prestigio.com/Service_Files/TabletPC/PMP5588C/PMP5588C_20140102_v1.0.42.zip
1. New preinstalled applications
2. User agent profile for Android browser updated
3. APN/SPN files updated
4. Skype issue fixed
5. Video player issue fixed
6. Chrome browser bugs fixed
7. Sound Recorder issue fixed
8. Wi-Fi bugs fixed
9. Gallery issue fixed
10. System stability and speed improved
11. Other minor issues fixed

verification
Hello friends, i have problem with verification of modified or created own firmware on my PMP5588c duo, during instaling of this update from recovery, boot loader delet this instalation and displayes " validating error" Is possible break this validation? modified or choose other bootloader? sorry for multiple question. thanks for help David

Prestigio 5588c Rooting Issue
Hello to all.
I have a Prestigio 5588c and I had recently updated it to the latest firmware. I wanted to root this device, but it seems that the new update is not allowing the utoo-root-signed.zip to root it. It keeps failing. I was wondering if there is someone out there that is in the process of renewing the file so that it works on the most recent update from Prestigio.
Thank you in advance for your time and your great work regarding all things that are Android
Az

Root for PMP5588c_Duo
AzahTabor said:
Hello to all.
I have a Prestigio 5588c and I had recently updated it to the latest firmware. I wanted to root this device, but it seems that the new update is not allowing the utoo-root-signed.zip to root it. It keeps failing. I was wondering if there is someone out there that is in the process of renewing the file so that it works on the most recent update from Prestigio.
Thank you in advance for your time and your great work regarding all things that are Android
Az
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Hello all,
I have the same PMP5588c_Duo device (4.2.1 stock Build PMP5588C.20131231.1.0.42) and managed to easily root it using Kingo root (kingoapp.com). It's a straighforward process:
download the app and install it on your PC
enable USB Debugging from the Developer options on the tablet
start the app on the PC
connect the table and PC with a microUSB cable
do not enable anything else on the tablet (like SD card access)
wait for Kingo to detect it
it will automatically download and install USB drivers to your PC and show a ROOT button
click the ROOT button, wait for 2-3 minutes, it could take up to 10min so be patient
the device will automatically reboot after the root has been applied
at which point disconnect the device
after the restart check for the SuperUser app, it will automatically install it
Have fun.
Z.

Zapryanov said:
Hello all,
I have the same PMP5588c_Duo device (4.2.1 stock Build PMP5588C.20131231.1.0.42) and managed to easily root it using Kingo root (kingoapp.com). It's a straighforward process:
download the app and install it on your PC
enable USB Debugging from the Developer options on the tablet
start the app on the PC
connect the table and PC with a microUSB cable
do not enable anything else on the tablet (like SD card access)
wait for Kingo to detect it
it will automatically download and install USB drivers to your PC and show a ROOT button
click the ROOT button, wait for 2-3 minutes, it could take up to 10min so be patient
the device will automatically reboot after the root has been applied
at which point disconnect the device
after the restart check for the SuperUser app, it will automatically install it
Have fun.
Z.
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hey Z.
thank you for the guidance.. testing it now so will update shortly.. although the program thought I had a samsung note lol
ok, this is an update.. seems the program did not want to root my tablet. when I started it again, it classed it as a google device, but said connection failed due to cable instability.. guess I will have to try another way
double update... after leaving it for a few days, it seems to have wanted to work.. woohoo. thanks Z for the info

help with prestigio multipad 8.0 HD !!!
Welcome. I have a problem with this tablet.
Tablet died after a crash. There is no option to enter a Power + vol +
also does not move with the micro SD card from the system manufacturer Charges start-up screen and that's it. When connected to a PC saw it as m3-chip.
In total, I found drivers in Device Manager I did update the driver for the M3-chip and now the tablet is listed in my device manager as libusb- win 32 device. I found a program that detects such a connected tablet. The program is Amlogic Image Burning Tool v.1.6.2.2. For the time being this my progress stopped. I was trying to upload with this software firmware downloaded from the manufacturer's website dedicated for this device, but I get the message "find no upgrade" and do not know what to do. Can someone help me ??? I'm not an expert, and the above step I got reading the various forums. To my eye it looks as if they fell bootloader, but thanks to the above program to see the tablet (or rather its processor) and now combines where to download a bootloader to throw it out there and then be able to upload the system such as the sd card. Or is there some other program or a way to restore the dead to life my tablet ??? Can you help ???

1. Turn off the tablet (hold the power button and count to 12
2. Insert prepared SD card https://yadi.sk/d/_6VITNSbhKPyi
3. Press and hold the "Vol +", press "Power ON" for 2 sec.
4. Release all buttons and wait for boot TWRP (about 10 seconds)
5. In TWRP select Install -> update.zip
6. Reboot tablet

testatura said:
well, i hope this will pass cause I am a noob here..
As an owner of this pretty much cheap and quite alright device I had hard time finding proper root method but in the end it was found..
Mine was already on 4.2.1 and the rest is as usual 1,5ghz dual core, mali 400 graphics, and apparently cortex a7 not a9 as on the box.. but who cares, right!?
so i got to the file (its actually based on crystal_root method from xda but some smart guy somewhere just made it work for 4.2 generic tablet ) I apologize if this si mentioned somewhere else, and I couldn't reply to crystal root board cause i am a noob, but I am sure some people will find this useful, that's all.
ok...you can chat here with me untill i got those 10 posts to upload link, you can google "Aigo M80E - JB 4.2.1 - help with rooting (killing cell standby)" or you can be a good soul and my first mate here and paste link
Cheers!
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Sorry Dude but it doesnt work ..... while updating abort... i tryed with all known firmware from the company ... kingoRoot KingRoot and also OneKlickRoot doesn´t work too. I´m Sad about that...
regards Michael

Related

[Q] prestigio multipad pmp5080cpro

Yeap i found a good rom and stable so far.
download from here
http: // x--t-e-a-m. blogspot. it/ and click on Download:
XTeam 4.1 QUI
plus for setting your external sd as a nand *as a main installing card... use this http :// crewrktablets. arctablet. com/?wpfb_dl=330
use google translate cause its italian website...anyway ...
steps are easy ... unrar XTeam 4.1 ...
1) Turn off your device
2) Locate the folder Rockusb_driver in the XTeam 4.1 folder and install the drivers for your computer.
3) on the tablet Hold sounds Down Button and connect the device.
4) open with right click and run as administrator the rk29update.exe
5) press the button "formatta!!!"
6) tick the "Loader"
7) Download this kernel from here: http: // www .2shared. com/file/GmdSyNG1/kernel_for_pmp_5080cpro_with_o.html
OR HERE
Code:
http://speedy.sh/vqEXB/kernel-for-pmp-5080cpro-with-overclock.img
8) replace the kernel with the one that i gave you from the link
9) press the "Aggiorna! ! " button and wait until the program overwrite the new firmware
10)when the tablet reboot it will go through cwm and the install the
Oma CM10 ExtSD To NAND OTG Fix.
11) the new firmware have OTA updater so update your tablet until you have no other updates...(i realised that i had to download the updates from ota and install them manual but anyway...)
12) in one point the updates from ota updater will change your kernel but dont worry.you will just lose temporary the screen rotation so...
install all the updates and in the end run the rk29update.exe again untick all the things there and keep only the kernel ticked and use the kernel i gave you.that match with your 5080 cpro. this time dont push formatta !!!.
Just overwrite the kernel and click aggiorna! !
your device will restart and ta da !!! you have the latest firmware for your Prestigio 5080 C PRO. overclocked and rooted with 1 giga for apps
plus 2x faster than factory's firmware.
i wanna say a big thanx to OMA for the kernel http: //crewrktablets. arctablet. com/
a big thanx to X TEAM for this awesome firmware
and a huge thanx to my self that i had the patience to search for the specific model what to do. It took me about 2 days to gather all the informations i needed.
And a huge apologize to oma that i didnt use his JB version for the prestigio tablet but i test it and it was kinda slow and laggy for my tablet xD
ps: in case that u need more info i ll be around to help you
Remember the steps are only for Prestigio PMP 5080 C PRO and NOT for the Prestigio 5080B.
For the Prestigio 5080B you must find the specific Kernel that works on the device cause else you will have problem with the ROTATION
any luck?
vampirian said:
Hello recently i bought a prestigio multipad 5080cpro
its kinda good for its price but...because im always in to flash better firmwares...can someone share with me a newest firmware and some programs so i can flash it ?
another thing is that i need a cwm recovery on it but i dont know how the heck i can install it.i already rooted it but with a ready rooted firmware.
thanx in advance!
ps :give as much info and tutorials you can for the specific tablet
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Did you have any luck finding more resources for this tablet?
Yeap i found a good rom and stable so far.
download from here
http: // x--t-e-a-m. blogspot. it/ and click on Download:
XTeam 4.1 QUI
plus for setting your external sd as a nand *as a main installing card... use this http :// crewrktablets. arctablet. com/?wpfb_dl=330
use google translate cause its italian website...anyway ...
steps are easy ... unrar XTeam 4.1 ...
1) Turn off your device
2) Locate the folder Rockusb_driver in the XTeam 4.1 folder and install the drivers for your computer.
3) on the tablet Hold sounds Down Button and connect the device.
4) open with right click and run as administrator the rk29update.exe
5) press the button "formatta!!!"
6) tick the "Loader"
7) Download this kernel from here: http: // www .2shared. com/file/GmdSyNG1/kernel_for_pmp_5080cpro_with_o.html
8) replace the kernel with the one that i gave you from the link
9) press the "Aggiorna! ! " button and wait until the program overwrite the new firmware
10)when the tablet reboot it will go through cwm and the install the
Oma CM10 ExtSD To NAND OTG Fix.
11) the new firmware have OTA updater so update your tablet until you have no other updates...(i realised that i had to download the updates from ota and install them manual but anyway...)
12) in one point the updates from ota updater will change your kernel but dont worry.you will just lose temporary the screen rotation so...
install all the updates and in the end run the rk29update.exe again untick all the things there and keep only the kernel ticked and use the kernel i gave you.that match with your 5080 cpro. this time dont push formatta !!!.
Just overwrite the kernel and click aggiorna! !
your device will restart and ta da !!! you have the latest firmware for your Prestigio 5080 C PRO. overclocked and rooted with 1 giga for apps
plus 2x faster than factory's firmware.
i wanna say a big thanx to OMA for the kernel http: //crewrktablets. arctablet. com/
a big thanx to X TEAM for this awesome firmware
and a huge thanx to my self that i had the patience to search for the specific model what to do. It took me about 2 days to gather all the informations i needed.
And a huge apologize to oma that i didnt use his JB version for the prestigio tablet but i test it and it was kinda slow and laggy for my tablet xD
ps: in case that u need more info i ll be around to help you
Remember the steps are only for Prestigio PMP 5080 C PRO and NOT for the Prestigio 5080B.
For the Prestigio 5080B you must find the specific Kernel that works on the device cause else you will have problem with the ROTATION
Danny_R said:
the 2 shared link doest work :\
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OK I will reupload it again just give me 2 mins to find a good link
Sent from my Xteam Smartpad 810c using Tapatalk HD
Code:
http://speedy.sh/vqEXB/kernel-for-pmp-5080cpro-with-overclock.img
also 2shared works but u have to delete the SPACES
Awesome
my tablet is flying now, so much better than the stock rom. why don't manufacturers build roms to utilize their hardware to the Max?!
1 question for now. my sound seems to turn off by itself and it comes on after a few seconds of me fiddling!
Thanks for this tutorial. It still works. I successfully updated Prestigio to 4.1.1. tonight, but still experiencing problems. tablet screen blinks when on charger, it reports that battery is charging, but it does not etc...
It might be faulty charger (I hope) or charging adapter contact on board (worse scenario).
Idiotic thing is that there is no way to charge it over USB... And I need charger for test. I'll have to think of something....
My tablet don't want to boot i don't know what to do please help...
i tried to install the now karnel how you told as to do and it said when i press the "Aggiorna! ! " button that "Getting loader failed"
and now the tablet wont start!
please help ...
Sory for my bad English!
The links for the kernel are dead, and I couldn't find kernel-for-pmp-5080cpro-with-overclock.img on Google... did anyone keep it?
link for kernel
Novanod said:
my tablet is flying now, so much better than the stock rom. why don't manufacturers build roms to utilize their hardware to the Max?!
1 question for now. my sound seems to turn off by itself and it comes on after a few seconds of me fiddling!
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hi,
still u have this kernel, and can you share it?
regards

Rooting MTK6589 KVD Apollo One

Hello all,
I have googled, and searched forums high and low to no result so I thought i'd ask.
I recently purchased "KVD APOLLO ONE K6589 Quad-Core Android 4.2.1 WCDMA Smartphone w/ 5.5"
Im new so I can't post external links, however if you go to google or deal extreme and search, you'll find it easy enough.
The phone itself was next to nothing ($180) so even if its Unrootable, I'm not too fussy.
I would however prefer it rooted, I have read that you can basically use the MTK6577 rooting tool on the device?
Would this risk bricking the device.
I'v attempted to contact the manufacturer however to no avail! This is a rather new model so I know im being a tad impatient but if anyone can help then please do
Thanks guys
Potentional Tutorial
philipkroberts said:
Hello all,
I have googled, and searched forums high and low to no result so I thought i'd ask.
I recently purchased "KVD APOLLO ONE K6589 Quad-Core Android 4.2.1 WCDMA Smartphone w/ 5.5"
Im new so I can't post external links, however if you go to google or deal extreme and search, you'll find it easy enough.
The phone itself was next to nothing ($180) so even if its Unrootable, I'm not too fussy.
I would however prefer it rooted, I have read that you can basically use the MTK6577 rooting tool on the device?
Would this risk bricking the device.
I'v attempted to contact the manufacturer however to no avail! This is a rather new model so I know im being a tad impatient but if anyone can help then please do
Thanks guys
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philipkroberts said:
Hello all,
I have googled, and searched forums high and low to no result so I thought i'd ask.
I recently purchased "KVD APOLLO ONE K6589 Quad-Core Android 4.2.1 WCDMA Smartphone w/ 5.5"
Im new so I can't post external links, however if you go to google or deal extreme and search, you'll find it easy enough.
The phone itself was next to nothing ($180) so even if its Unrootable, I'm not too fussy.
I would however prefer it rooted, I have read that you can basically use the MTK6577 rooting tool on the device?
Would this risk bricking the device.
I'v attempted to contact the manufacturer however to no avail! This is a rather new model so I know im being a tad impatient but if anyone can help then please do
Thanks guys
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Also looks like im getting the Star N9589 just due to the more support available.
Anyhow until then, failing any answers from here, another chinese forum a spanish one and Yahoo answers I am going to go with the following method, If it dies, It dies this was my own fault for not doing enough research and at least it lets others know. I would send it back to DX But cba with postage fees and the hassle;
THIS IS DONE AT YOUR OWN RISK! -
APOLLO ONE - MTK 6589 K6589
Please note all tools and zip files mentioned I cant link to yet should you feel you want them please post in this thread and I will PM you, Gotta get my post count up first!
Guide by philipkroberts Twitter @philipkroberts
Revision 1 - People to be added to credits for leehed source, currently untested, concept only
Before anything try and boot into any form of recovery mode and backup if possible!
DISABLE UAC in WINDOWS 7
RIGHT CLICK RUN AS ADMIN ON ALL FILES
ALLOW NON TRUSTED DRIVER INSTALLATION (Google this if unsure)
On the phone install anububu on pc phone. - See what model it detects as and note it down.
Run MTK DROID TOOLS and connect phone see if drivers After a few seconds, the box should turn blue, and it should say "Apollo ONE or Other Name " besides it. The drivers are working.
If not try the other drivers in the drivers folder using device manager, there are many tutorials for this I cba typing one im so tired! and make sure you have the only trusted drivers thing turned off, if you constantly get unknown driver then your out of look and wil have to try and source some yourself.
Win7 (This method has not been tested by myself. Confirmation required.)
HOW TO MANUALLY INSTALL ANY DRIVERS IF NEEDED
a - Downloading This tool Called EASYBCD
b - Use it to restart your computer in advanced boot mode. (PRESSING F8 WHILST BOOTING UNTIL YOU GET THE OPTION FOR Disable signed driver enforcement)-Must be done everytime you wanna root a phone with this method.
c - Follow instructions and disable SDE.
d Manually install drivers, if above did not work (Yellow sign issue)
e Navigate to control panel - > Hardware and Sound - > Device Manager
f You should see a driver notice with a yellow warning sign next to it.
g Right click on it and choose "Update driver..".
h- Manually assign drivers, usually the choice furthest down.
i- In the window which should have appeared, navigate to the preload/Mt6590 folder and press OK.
j- If SDE is turned off, you should see a red warning window. This is normal, just accept the message prompted.
k- The drivers should now be successfully installed.
l - Once this is done open C:\Users\Hate\Desktop\Chinese Droid Rooting\MTKROOT TOOLS\Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v28\runme.bat Hope it ****ing works if so your rooted, If not try this next few steps, AGAIN at your own risk, no need to format just continue from here.
THE FOLLOWING STEPS ARE FOR THE STAR S5 - SAME PROCESSOR BUT NO GARUNTEE. DO NOT FOLLOW THESE STEPS UNLESS YOU ROOTED ANOTHER WAY AND NOW JUST WANT TO INSTALL A CWM
THE FOLLOWING STEPS ARE FOR THE STAR S5 - SAME PROCESSOR BUT NO GARUNTEE. DO NOT FOLLOW THESE STEPS UNLESS YOU ROOTED ANOTHER WAY AND NOW JUST WANT TO INSTALL A CWM
THE FOLLOWING STEPS ARE FOR THE STAR S5 - SAME PROCESSOR BUT NO GARUNTEE. DO NOT FOLLOW THESE STEPS UNLESS YOU ROOTED ANOTHER WAY AND NOW JUST WANT TO INSTALL A CWM
THE FOLLOWING STEPS ARE FOR THE STAR S5 - SAME PROCESSOR BUT NO GARUNTEE. DO NOT FOLLOW THESE STEPS UNLESS YOU ROOTED ANOTHER WAY AND NOW JUST WANT TO INSTALL A CWM
0 - Use PC to copy UPDATE-SuperSU-v.1.25.zip to the root of SD CARD, do not unpack just leave whole zip there.
1 - Turn off your phone, remove your battery. (Do not connect your phone to the computer yet!)
2 - Navigate to the "SP Flash Tool" folder, and run the tool.
3 - On the right side of the tool, there should be a button, iconed with a folder, named "Scatter-Loading". Click this.
4 - Navigate to the "Yulypis Recovery" folder, and double-click on the "Mt6589_Android_scatter-emmc.txt".
5 - You should be back at the SP Flash Tool start-screen, and there should have appeared a list of text and hex-codes.
6 - The "Recovery" line, should be ticked off, and preloader should be red.
7 - Now, click on the button named "Download", with a blue arrow on it. Press "YES" on the NOT ALL images has been correctly loaded warning.
8 - Connect your phone to a USB 2.0, with removed battery. The program should now work, and if drivers is set up correctly, the 0% will turn 100% and a green circle will appear in the middle of the screen. If your phone disconnects before the flashing tool is able to recognize your device, try putting the battery back into the phone before running SP Flash tool. Additionally, if this doesn't work, try using different drivers in the drivers folder
9 - Disconnect your K6589 from the computer when you see the green circle, insert the battery and boot the phone. Wait for it to get to the start screen.
11 - Installing SuperSU through Yulypis recovery
12 - Run "MtkDroidTools.exe" from the folder.
13 - Connect your device, and after a few seconds, information about your device should appear.
14 - Click on reboot, on the mtkDroidTools start-screen, and choose "..recovery".
15 - If recovery has been properly flashed, your device will now enter Yulypis recovery. Blue, with english text.
16 - Controllers: "Power = Enter, Initialize", "Volume down = Scrolling down". (Don't remember if volume up was bugged or not)
17 - Enter "Install zip from SDcard" - > Navigate to the earlier copied "UPDATE-SuperSU-v.1.25.zip and initialize it by pressing the power button.
18 - Follow the on-screen instructions, and it should be prompted to install after 1-2 more screens.
19 - Reboot the device by clicking on "+++++back+++++" and "Reboot now / Reboot Device".
Either way I am going to smash this in a week or so when the phone arrives from DX and will keep people update.
Peace
Please I want to buy this phone. Can you answer me a few doubts I have?
- How is the viewing angle? Cause i purchased a tablet from china and the angle is very bad.
- Has proximity sensor?
Are you ok with the phone?
thank you.
cabrote said:
Please I want to buy this phone. Can you answer me a few doubts I have?
- How is the viewing angle? Cause i purchased a tablet from china and the angle is very bad.
- Has proximity sensor?
Are you ok with the phone?
thank you.
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I'm still awaiting the phone, hence why that guide is at your own risk.
However from what I have been told and gather that should root the phone no problems.
As for custom roms, I wouldn't even bother trying!
Once the phone gets here I will test my tutorial and re-write it into a more easy on the eyes fashion.
Thanks
http://www.fastcardtech.com/APOLLO-ONE-K6589?u=37825
They sell the phone, for an extra $3 they root before sending.
It cant be that hard, I'd love to know someone in that factory!
I'm looking for a link to download the full stock firmware for this device.
Anyone, please?
...or at least a firmware dump from a non-modified working phone.
One could use MTK Droid Tools and SPFlash to perform this task easily.
PM me for assistance if you need it.
Thank you.

[Q] [THL W8 BEYOND ] HOW TO ROOT and GPS FIX

Hi to all!
I recently bought this phone, I have to admit to being fully satisfied of the features except for one ... the GPS function.
I have read dozens of guides to adjust the GPS W8+ but not for my model. If I knew how to do the root I could at least try to use the same method.
Does anyone have suggestions on how to do it on this phone?
THL W8 Beyond
Hello, i have also bought a thl w8 beyond and i have the same questions, if anyone could help id be very apreciated!! Thanks
Root
hi,
Motochoper root hack fail on W8 beyond.
THL W8 Beyond:Recovery,Root máy
birdyisme said:
hi,
Motochoper root hack fail on W8 beyond.
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I'am Thienhoa3 in Tinhte.vn
Topic install recovery and root THL W8 Beyond MT6589t
Seach google THL W8 Beyond root,recovery tinhte.vn
link: tinhte.vn/threads/thl-w8-beyond-recovery-root-may.2132474/#post-38561380
Thanks thienhoa
Hi thienhoa,
Thanks for this tutorial.
With the help of C3C076 (thanks for the recovery image) , I proceed in the same way.
This archive contains all the necessary and also a howto.
link: ovh.to/GrW17MP
thienhoa said:
I'am Thienhoa3 in Tinhte.vn
Topic install recovery and root THL W8 Beyond MT6589t
Seach google THL W8 Beyond root,recovery tinhte.vn
link: tinhte.vn/threads/thl-w8-beyond-recovery-root-may.2132474/#post-38561380
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So I got mine W8 beyond two days ago.
So far so good, but:
1. GPS problem. I am geocacher (more at: geocaching.com) and I need accurate GPS. When I stood still in the open for few minutes, I could see GPS jumping around for 400-900 meters for no reason. AGPS and EPO activated. We will see how it goes
2. I would love to get polish language settings, since there are some apps which fetch the content depending on Your language setting (I know that this is poor design, but this is how they works), so that would be nice. Not an issue anymore. I installed MoreLocale2 and pm'ed it which is more than enough at the moment.
3. I do not see option for sorting the apps in the main apps menu (it was working on my old Lenovo A750) - am I missing something?First 9 icons are fixed and alphabelical, the rest is just alphabetical. I can live with that.
4. I have my contacts stored with country prefix which is not used by my operator. I do not see my contacts data when they are calling me.
The SMSes are provided by operator with country prefix, so the problem is with calls only. I tried to follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268120 but I am unable to decompile framework.jar - no classes.dex inside. I am not able to deodex framework.odex either, so I am stuck for the moment.GravityMod2 3.0 ROM fixed that problem.
The link provided with the tools and howto contains W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589TV1.0.1_20130618-cwm6033.img,
when I go to phone info at my phone I can see W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM8P128_MT6589TV1.0.2_20130626.
Seems like I have newer firmware. If anyone can tell me how to extract this, I would be more than happy to share.
GravityMod2 3.0 installed - not an issue anymore
For my good old Lenovo I was able to modify the ROM as soon as I got my hands on any ROM in zip format. I guess I could also try to compile something (I am a programmer), but since I am extremely low on time I would need MT6589T kernel patch (is it the same like mt6589) and some basic manual.
Anyone interested?
Fix GPS
Topic fix GPS on Mediatek
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thienhoa said:
Topic fix GPS on Mediatek
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Thanks, but I got A-GPS and EPO already enabled and EPO downloaded.
I till try to go to the engineering menu and locking via YGPS.
As I understood from google translator, I should just wait for lock and then close everything. Since then everything should be running smoothly. Am I right?
What about my other questions? Lack of polish is driving my crazy. My news feeds are all US which is driving me crazy ...
w8 beyond dead
Guys ..... HELP!!!!
with my habit of fiddling I think I brick the cell.
I tried the guide for root and recovery for the beyond, but now I can not turn on anymore, not even in recovery mode, the LED does not light up even if I put it on charge.
Can anyone give me some advice on where I can start to revive the terminal?
Thanks in advance. :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
ilmeccanico said:
Guys ..... HELP!!!!
with my habit of fiddling I think I brick the cell.
I tried the guide for root and recovery for the beyond, but now I can not turn on anymore, not even in recovery mode, the LED does not light up even if I put it on charge.
Can anyone give me some advice on where I can start to revive the terminal?
Thanks in advance. :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
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I am not sure if it helps (I am quite sure it does not acctually), but which version was running on your phone prior to root attempt? Which part has failed? writting the CWM image or rooting?
Try to connect the phone to the PC via usb and then turning it on. If PC reacts (ADB device as far as I rememeber will be recognized) then there might be chance for You.
Low_Man said:
I am not sure if it helps (I am quite sure it does not acctually), but which version was running on your phone prior to root attempt? Which part has failed? writting the CWM image or rooting?
Try to connect the phone to the PC via usb and then turning it on. If PC reacts (ADB device as far as I rememeber will be recognized) then there might be chance for You.
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When work was mounted W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589TV1.0.1_20130618
I followed this guide
h**p://***.tinhte.vn/threads/thl-w8-beyond-recovery-root-may.2132474/ # post-38561380
in the end I also showed the window of ok with the green circle but by that time you are no longer on again.
if I connect it to the PC you will hear the sound that is connected but nothing happens
ilmeccanico said:
When work was mounted W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589TV1.0.1_20130618
I followed this guide
h**p://***.tinhte.vn/threads/thl-w8-beyond-recovery-root-may.2132474/ # post-38561380
in the end I also showed the window of ok with the green circle but by that time you are no longer on again.
if I connect it to the PC you will hear the sound that is connected but nothing happens
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Have You tried reflashing it again with this: ovh.to/GrW17MP?
yes i tried it
Does the GPS works fine on this phone? i would like ot buy this phone....
SICOPOLY said:
Does the GPS works fine on this phone? i would like ot buy this phone....
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Mine work - kind of ...
After getting the fix the coordinates jumps for 1-2 second every 5 seconds.
This makes it troublesome but possible for navigation
what SAR rating for thl w8 beyond?
Anyone knows how can you root the latest 1.0.2 w8 beyond version?
Getting "Incorrect scatter file format" error
birdyisme said:
Hi thienhoa,
Thanks for this tutorial.
With the help of C3C076 (thanks for the recovery image) , I proceed in the same way.
This archive contains all the necessary and also a howto.
link: ovh.to/GrW17MP
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Hi,
Thanks for this great tutorial and for arranging all the needed files in one location!
I have a small problem
1. When I open the flash tool I get the following error: "fail to load a raw data file: "c:\users\stephane\Desktop\thl8beyond\W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589TV1.0.1_20130618-cwm6033.img
2. When I continue the falsh tool opens but when I try to upload the scatter file I get the following error: "Incorrect scatter file format!"
3. My current build number is: W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589TV1.0.2_20130626. Can I still use the image you provided ?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Hi guys,
I am having trouble to install the drivers for the THL W8 Beyond that I have. My model is:
W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589TV1.0.1_20130618
When connecting it to the computer it will install HTC drivers under Android Phone entry in device manager and also W8 Beyond under Portable Device.
I cannot root the phone using the msdos script or SP Flash tool. Also Snapea does not see the device. On the same computer I used a ZOPO C2 Platinum and Snapea found that instantly and I could rooted and also pushed a custom ROM.
Now... wish I could also root this THL to be able to back-up my stock ROM. No need for me to work with a custom, just need to be able to back-up the original ROM just to be safe.
Can you please help me in regards to the communication problem between computer with Win 7 64bit and the THL W8 Beyond phone?
Thank you.
lepsulet said:
Hi guys,
I am having trouble to install the drivers for the THL W8 Beyond that I have. My model is:
W8_beyond.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589TV1.0.1_20130618
When connecting it to the computer it will install HTC drivers under Android Phone entry in device manager and also W8 Beyond under Portable Device.
I cannot root the phone using the msdos script or SP Flash tool. Also Snapea does not see the device. On the same computer I used a ZOPO C2 Platinum and Snapea found that instantly and I could rooted and also pushed a custom ROM.
Now... wish I could also root this THL to be able to back-up my stock ROM. No need for me to work with a custom, just need to be able to back-up the original ROM just to be safe.
Can you please help me in regards to the communication problem between computer with Win 7 64bit and the THL W8 Beyond phone?
Thank you.
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The easiest and only way i could root my W8 beyond is with this program:
droidchina.com/forum/Thread-ROOT-GUI-Root-Wizard-for-MTK65xx-phones

[Q] Prestigio MultiPad 4 Quantum Root Help (PMP5297C_QUAD)

[ISSUE HAS BEEN SOLVED! - Download and use "ROOT Genius" to root this particular brand of tablet. I have personally tested it and can confirm it works on Firmware revisions: v1.0.07 and v1.0.9! Thanks to "brugos" for finding the fix and bringing it to my attention!]
Hey guys
I do hope I have posted this question in the correct forum, if not I do apologise.
As you can probably tell from the title, I am looking for a way to root my 9.7 inch Prestigio MultiPad 4 Quantum 9.7 tablet (Model: PMP5297C_QUAD).
I have been looking for a way to root this since December, and even though I have found several articles (non English) explaining how to root this device (and have been through all the relevant threads I could find regarding my device on XDA), all of the guides have been for firmware v1.0.3 - my tablet is v1.0.7. I went ahead and tried it anyway, and although CWM installed and launched fine, installing the SuperSU binary via CWM did nothing. It installs, but nothing appears in Android when I reboot, and installing SuperSU from Play Store alerts me that the SuperSU binaries are not installed.
I tried "Kingo Android ROOT" and that wouldn't even detect the device, which isn't surprising as it isn't listed on their website. However somebody on a similar thread (on XDA) suggested that the OP (who has the same tablet as myself) at least try it. I did try it, and sadly it doesn't work.
Device information:
Prestigio MultiPad 4 Quantum 9.7" Tablet
Model Number: PMP5297C_QUAD
Firmware: v1.0.7 (December 2013)
FW Build Number: PMP5297C_QUAD_20131204_V1.0.7
Android Version: 4.2.2
If there is anybody out there who has any idea what to try, then I am willing to listen. If anybody needs any other information, I am more than willing to give it
Cheers guys
Prestigio multipad 4 quantum 9.7
The same here..trying to find a way to root for the new firmware...still haven't got anything...
Yeah... doesn't seem to be a very popular brand of tablet :/ Which is a shame as its pretty damn snappy with the v1.0.7 firmware. I wanna get a resolution changer to work, but none I have tried will work without rooting. Only wanna drop the res for better gaming framerates lol
yeah agree...doesn't seem very popular... I guess we should wait some time more.... did you try rooting with the old firmware and then updating to the new firmware? I guess it wouldn't work anyway....
Nope... from past experience rooting phones updating the firmware breaks the root as v1.0.7 replaced the entire OS if I remember...
Tried the root for v1.0.3 while using v1.0.7... ClockWorkMod installed and works fine, but the SuperSU binary doesn't work/install It was a gamble incase it screwed anything up but luckily it didn't - however, it also didn't work
And yeah, looks like we will need to wait a while longer... I do hope someone out there somewhere knows what to do lol Just gotta find them or wait for them to find us lol
Hey dude...you still haven't find root? If not try with root genious... I got root now on my tablet...running the latest firmware 1.0.9
Regards!
Ah man! You are AMAZING! lol
I almost gave up trying to find a root - until now!
I had no idea that there was a new FW released a few weeks back, just updated it and downloaded "ROOT Genius" - worked first time!
Excellent work there dude, thank you so much and thank you for taking the time to share it with me, and the rest of the people out there who have been in the same situation as us who are still looking for a fix!
Now we have it! Excellent work!
You welcome!
Just curious what are you going to do to your tablet having root now?
Do you know if there is any posibility to install any rom or something like that?
Also knowing Prestigio I guess would be hard to find some updates hmmm
Hey man
Well the main reason I wanted to root first of all was to adjust the resolution of the display, it has a beautiful high resolution display as you know but some games... the FPS leave a lot to be desired. After doing some reading, some posts suggested lowering the display resolution to increase FPS - and the only way to do that was to root the device.
I did try one app, but it went a bit wrong lol. I was hoping it would readjust the resolution and resize the interface accordingly... instead it ended up changing the resolution, but the interface stayed MASSIVE. The device was inoperable and keep getting a "UI Error" constantly popping up making it unusable at all lol. Had to reflash and re-root so I am looking for another option
Beyond that, I have used custom ROMs in the past on my Android phones, but as far as I know, I believe there is only one ROM out there for our tablet and its based on CyanogenMOD I think... I may be wrong, but I thought I read something somewhere about it. Apart from that though, I am not really sure what else I will do now it is rooted Will open the door to some other apps for certain, but the OS itself seems fine and since the new firmware (v1.0.9) - it feels even faster than before!
What do you have in mind?
Yeah I noticed the issue of FPS in some games.... Well I didn't do many things yet I instaled Xposed and some modules.... and also I removed the navingation bar...is just that I dont like the way the navigation bar and status bar are together... thats why I was searching for another rom also which could have not the Ice cream sandwich bar.
I've found this: crewrktablets.arctablet.com where there are some roms with kit kat that may be work for our tablet but nothing confirmed yet...so I'm not sure if I'm gonna try it
and yeah with the new firmware is much faster thats cool.... but I'm almost sure will be forever in 4.2.2
It worked with MULTIPAD 4 QUANTUM 10.1PMP5101C-QUAD with last firmware too.
Hello,
I really cant install drivers to windows OS (Win 8). I downloaded official drivers from prestigio website: http://www.prestigio.com/news/firmware_updates/New_Firmware_Update_for_MultiPad_4_Quantum_9_7
I tried all whats saying in manual but without a success. Is there another way do update to 1.0.7? Can i flash the image in recovery?
Have a nice day
DyXen said:
Hello,
I really cant install drivers to windows OS (Win 8). I downloaded official drivers from prestigio website: http://www.prestigio.com/news/firmware_updates/New_Firmware_Update_for_MultiPad_4_Quantum_9_7
I tried all whats saying in manual but without a success. Is there another way do update to 1.0.7? Can i flash the image in recovery?
Have a nice day
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Same problem. I can't get working driver for windows 10. Is it even posssible to upgrade my firmware on win 10? And btw DyXen there is already version 1.0.9 , maybe try that one. http://de05.dl.prestigio.com/Service_Files/TabletPC/PMP5297C_QUAD/PMP5297C_20140425_v1.0.9.zip
Tnx for this update
but its also useless cuz first i need to install drivers :S
DyXen said:
Tnx for this update
but its also useless cuz first i need to install drivers :S
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You've got some drivers here: http://storage29-free.uloz.to/Ps;Hs...7c-cwm-v6-0-3-zip?bD&c=1822785863&De&redirs=1
It's also root and cwm. But there is driver folder too. Even for windows 8. It might work.
Here are some instructions maybe you did something wrong
1. On tablet set the usb-connection-style to 'mass storage'. Settings, Memory-3 dots in the upper right corner- choose Mass storage
2. Turn off the tablet.
3. Connect the usb cable with PC and tablet.
4. HOLD DOWN the (volume +) key and turn the device on(still holding the vol.+) until you get a notice(driver not successfuly installed) on your PC.
5. Use the Manual(found in the downloaded folder) to install a proper driver. Or.: Go to Start-My Computer-Right click on it-Properties-Device Manager-Other devices-Unknown device-Update Driver- In the window browse the computer for the specific driver(that's why you need to know your systems pc)
Good luck.
yoyo97 said:
You've got some drivers here: http://storage29-free.uloz.to/Ps;Hs...7c-cwm-v6-0-3-zip?bD&c=1822785863&De&redirs=1
It's also root and cwm. But there is driver folder too. Even for windows 8. It might work.
Here are some instructions maybe you did something wrong
1. On tablet set the usb-connection-style to 'mass storage'. Settings, Memory-3 dots in the upper right corner- choose Mass storage
2. Turn off the tablet.
3. Connect the usb cable with PC and tablet.
4. HOLD DOWN the (volume +) key and turn the device on(still holding the vol.+) until you get a notice(driver not successfuly installed) on your PC.
5. Use the Manual(found in the downloaded folder) to install a proper driver. Or.: Go to Start-My Computer-Right click on it-Properties-Device Manager-Other devices-Unknown device-Update Driver- In the window browse the computer for the specific driver(that's why you need to know your systems pc)
Good luck.
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Ok, i tried those drivers too but no success. I think maybe i need other OS.
I have developers options ON and USB debugging turned ON. (I think that should be turned ON)
P.S. I changed to mass storage and program did recognize the tablet but when i clciked switch (tablet turned OFF) and then it did not recognize anymore - i think problems with drivers.
Update to 1.0.9
Hello again,
I finally made it
Here is the thing:
1) Download this update (1.0.9): http://de05.dl.prestigio.com/Service_Files/TabletPC/PMP5297C_QUAD/PMP5297C_20140425_v1.0.9.zip from @yoyo97 (thanks)
2) Dont use drivers in folder /Drivers_x32 or /Drivers_x64
Instead go to /tools/Driver (and use this one x86 or x64 - depends on your OS)
3) Follow instructions in manual:
start RKBatchTool.exe and if icon is not green click Switch. Wait for tablet to shutdown and you should get green icon. (if this doesnt help turn off your tablet manualy and press AND hold volume + button for about 6-7 seconds DONT release and plug in USB cable then you should get notification on windows and green icon in RKBatchTool.exe)
4) Choose the firmware image and click upgrade.
5) let the software do the trick
6) profit
7) for rooting i used an android app called kingo root https://www.kingoapp.com/ just download the app on tablet. When you start it just click root and let the app do the trick.
After around 2-4min your tablet should be rooted.
I was using windows 7 (x86)
If you need any information please let me know and I will be glad to help
Have a nice day,
DyXen
Hi DyXen
Tried it all, but cannot get rockusb.inf to work on Windows 10 64-bit. I see two devices in my device manager after connecting the tablet, POrtable Device PMP5297C_QUAD and Android Composite ADB Interface. Have tried forcing the bundled Win8 x64 rockusb.inf on to both devices but keep getting "The folder you specified does not contain a compatible software driver for your device. If the folder contains a driver, make sure it is designed to work with Windows for x64 based systems."
I have also tried DriverAssistant v4.4 and it installed the drivers OK.
Even tried copying the IMG and ZIP files to SD card and applying via recovery. Nothing works. My tablet is still stuck on 1.0.3 and is sluggish as a snail. Some help will be greatly appreciated.
hyderaly said:
Hi DyXen
Tried it all, but cannot get rockusb.inf to work on Windows 10 64-bit. I see two devices in my device manager after connecting the tablet, POrtable Device PMP5297C_QUAD and Android Composite ADB Interface. Have tried forcing the bundled Win8 x64 rockusb.inf on to both devices but keep getting "The folder you specified does not contain a compatible software driver for your device. If the folder contains a driver, make sure it is designed to work with Windows for x64 based systems."
I have also tried DriverAssistant v4.4 and it installed the drivers OK.
Even tried copying the IMG and ZIP files to SD card and applying via recovery. Nothing works. My tablet is still stuck on 1.0.3 and is sluggish as a snail. Some help will be greatly appreciated.
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The same problem I have with Multipad 4 Quantum 9.7 !!! No one driver is acceptable, no one method also. tablet is just frozen, only boot loader working but does not accept any update!!!
Please help
kompjuterija said:
The same problem I have with Multipad 4 Quantum 9.7 !!! No one driver is acceptable, no one method also. tablet is just frozen, only boot loader working but does not accept any update!!!
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Could you solve it? Cause I have the same problem

ROOT For the 4 Year Old SONY TABLET S (NOT XPERIA!)

Hello everyone! I'm new to the forum and i'm here only to share with you a tip! or maybe many!
So i was looking for a ways to reduce lag on ICS and i stumbled upon a way to root any android device . and i tried it .... I was ready to take the risk on my 3 year old tablet to see if it was worth it... .and it was .....
I don't take any credit for this method of rooting the Tablet S . This is the simpler than all the AiO tools out there . And it can root 4.0.3 rev5A!!!!!! (yes!)
Requirments
Sony Tablet S 16GB/32GB on 4.0.3r5a (Or 3.2 this works with any version above 2.3)
KingRoot App (download link below)
Charger(we dont want to get stuck on a bootloop because we didnt have a charger!)
SD card for backup
RootChecker App if u dont believe me
This method does not require creating a backup... but do it just in case.
Download and install the KingRoot app.
Open the application swipe down till u see Sony Tablet S Root Strategy Found...
Then its pretty simple. just click on the root this device button...
Your device may reboot during the process
and voila! now you have root on your Tablet S
Now, unfortunately you cannot install custom recovery on your device because the bootloader is locked or you cant install custom roms(wish i could) but this post is only for obtaining root ... pls dont criticize me for the above reasons
Also, im not responsible if your device gets bricked ... rooting is a dangerous process and your device is your responsibility . Dont blame me for bricked devices.
I DO NOT TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR THIS APPLICATION! THANK THE CREATOR OF THE APP AND NOT ME!
Another tip ... If your device gets stuck in a bootloop, get into the recovery and do a factory reset. and if that doesnt work... try restarting a few times.
Thanks people!:victory:
I was honestly skeptical but it actually worked!
i.imgur.com/3N3Jpts.jpg
draiman11 said:
I was honestly skeptical but it actually worked!
i.imgur.com/3N3Jpts.jpg
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Glad it worked! Another tip... Don't try replacing kingroot with superuser... It doesn't work with the tablet... Unfortunately...
SGPT13 (Tablet S)
Hello! Sorry for my spelling errors. I am Brazilian and I'm using Google Translate for this dialogue.
I'm having the following problem: I have a Sony Xperia Tablet S (SGPT131BR / S) and the wifi simply crashed. Already tested in other modems without success. I can connect it only to the smartphone hotspot. The gadget now has a version 4.1.1r2 (Jelly Bean) installed and already efetuei the HARD RESET, but the problem continues.
In Brazil's support, suggested I use the PC Companion software and make a repair update. However, the software only has MPT driver and has no USB debugging. Again, after search and find the driver, I found that this software does not
updates this unit specifically.
The equipment certainly is not damaged (hardware). Step this information based on the fact that it can only connect to mobile hotspots, also the bluetooth is operating normal and finally know that there was no fall when "out of nowhere" he decided to no longer work.
After researching a bit, I believe that the "system update from sd card" available at "Android System Recovery" (the HARD RESET menu), could solve ...
This topic specifically, I found the software to download the front page!
Tablet S Updates (Brazil)
ICSR5A
info.update.sony.net/ST002/nbx03_045/contents/0003/signed-nbx03_045-ota-121116105.zip
ICS Release 1a
info.update.sony.net/ST002/nbx03_045/contents/0002/signed-nbx03_045-ota-120804014.zip
ICS * REMOVED *
signed-nbx03_045-ota-120410071.zip
Xperia Updates (AR CL CO MX PA PE VE)
Jelly Bean R3
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_200/contents/0006/signed-txs03_200-ota-131023004.zip
Jelly Bean R2
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_200/contents/0005/signed-txs03_200-ota-130705019.zip
+ 3G Model
Jelly Bean R2
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_250/contents/0004/signed-txs03_250-ota-130705010.zip
Jelly Bean
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_250/contents/0003/signed-txs03_250-ota-130329015.zip
However, the downloaded files are all corrupt and not unpack! = (
Do you think that will work? Does anyone have another link "ok"? Or other suggestions?
sry
MLRamos said:
Hello! Sorry for my spelling errors. I am Brazilian and I'm using Google Translate for this dialogue.
I'm having the following problem: I have a Sony Xperia Tablet S (SGPT131BR / S) and the wifi simply crashed. Already tested in other modems without success. I can connect it only to the smartphone hotspot. The gadget now has a version 4.1.1r2 (Jelly Bean) installed and already efetuei the HARD RESET, but the problem continues.
In Brazil's support, suggested I use the PC Companion software and make a repair update. However, the software only has MPT driver and has no USB debugging. Again, after search and find the driver, I found that this software does not
updates this unit specifically.
The equipment certainly is not damaged (hardware). Step this information based on the fact that it can only connect to mobile hotspots, also the bluetooth is operating normal and finally know that there was no fall when "out of nowhere" he decided to no longer work.
After researching a bit, I believe that the "system update from sd card" available at "Android System Recovery" (the HARD RESET menu), could solve ...
This topic specifically, I found the software to download the front page!
Tablet S Updates (Brazil)
ICSR5A
info.update.sony.net/ST002/nbx03_045/contents/0003/signed-nbx03_045-ota-121116105.zip
ICS Release 1a
info.update.sony.net/ST002/nbx03_045/contents/0002/signed-nbx03_045-ota-120804014.zip
ICS * REMOVED *
signed-nbx03_045-ota-120410071.zip
Xperia Updates (AR CL CO MX PA PE VE)
Jelly Bean R3
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_200/contents/0006/signed-txs03_200-ota-131023004.zip
Jelly Bean R2
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_200/contents/0005/signed-txs03_200-ota-130705019.zip
+ 3G Model
Jelly Bean R2
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_250/contents/0004/signed-txs03_250-ota-130705010.zip
Jelly Bean
info.update.sony.net/ST002/txs03_250/contents/0003/signed-txs03_250-ota-130329015.zip
However, the downloaded files are all corrupt and not unpack! = (
Do you think that will work? Does anyone have another link "ok"? Or other suggestions?
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My tablet had a corrupted motherboard and i had to send it to the service center... it hasnt come back yet so i cant help....

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