Every year major mobile manufacturers come out with their new android range with a year old android version and promising to upgrade to the latest one in few months time.
Apart from maybe galaxy-s series from samsung i really don't think any other manufacturer updates their best phone for more than 1 year.......i mean latest android version ( i maybe wrong)
If one sees the version updates and their changelogs since v-4 which was released in 11/2011, no note worthy feature has since been upgraded which will affect day to day usage.
So is it really worth while to invest in the android eco-system and buy a decent phone of 25k plus, coz as per my experience low end handsets don't work too well with low ram and stuff, knowing fully well that i am starting with a 1 yr old OS and will get a tiny 4 to 4.1 or 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade only?
I for one bought htc-one-s and have been entitled to only 4.1 update and god knows what changed between 4.0.3 to 4.1.2
Why not invest in a lumia 920 or iphone 4s or 5 instead?
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Hey yall,
I am looking to make the switch to Verizon and android from the Evil Empire of Apple. My big decision is the Bionic or the upcoming Galaxy Nexus. The extra features of the Galaxy are cool, but they are just little extras in my book. My big concern is ICS vs Gingerbread. I know that there is no anounced upgrade date, but based on previous experience how does the Android OS upgrade timeframes work? The price difference 150 for Bionic from Amazon Wireless vs 300 expected for the Galaxy is also a factor. Thanks guys and gals.
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There is no eta (of such really). If a device gets updated, then so be it. If the company finds the device's hardware good enough, then its quite likely to be updated but there is no guarantee. Remember, even if your device doesn't get updated officially, there will be ports/roms developed for it unofficially (especially if its a popular device).
Hi all,
I ask this question now as I wait for a dev. of ICS for my phone to progress.
Before I bought my phone, I read a review saying that it was one Android version behind but to the reviewer, the version numbers are over-hyped and in reality the phone was great. I should say I bought the phone in August 2010 and it was released May/June that year.
Even reading this, being in this forum, we're a part of a very small per centage of people who understand anything that goes on here, or even the title of this thread. I don't mean that in a -we're brilliant- way, rather that most of us are a little tech-crazy. But do we take it too far? Does 4.0 make your mouth water but 2.1 bores you?
Are there some real benefits to the newer versions? Yes, sure. A few more features, sometimes faster UI, better battery times. I have heard of a few phones out there which had significant benefits and very popular new features e.g. tethering, some camera stuff etc. But beyond this? There is a LOT of gimmicks, crap people like to show off to their friends and all of that, which bored me beyond the age of 20. I got my first phone aged 11. I've been getting phones a few times a year almost every year since. One mega-problem I have with these 'smartphones' is that there have been largely missing basic features which were in the 'feature phones' before them. They've been selling us half-featured phones and dribbling back the rest on 'updates'.
I mean this in a philosophical way - not a critical one. I'm not questioning the validity of this forum (or I wouldn't be here ) and I hope that's clear. What do you all think?
Well?
your parents let you have a phone at 11? and then bought you more then one a year since? wow!
Now don't get the impression I'm desperately wealthy!!! My uncle worked in international business and gave me his old one. I remember even at 11 he mentioned things like 'it's not public yet but Ericsson and Sony are going to merge their mobile business' and I was already hooked on business. I bought I think every phone after that myself, no parents!
Every major release usually has an overall system performance improvement.
But other than that it seems to be a hyped up gimmick.
^^^^ That's precisesly what I've been coming to think. Who doesn't want slightly better memory management to improve battery, some features you use etc. but beyond that I'm afriad it's gimmick-central.
I have to add the psychological aspect of this and marketing particularly.
i agree since samsung swcred t-mobile with sidekick 4g with a subpar camera ,froyo , weak processor 1ghz(alot of lags), and no support , meanwhile 3 or 4 months later a bunch of phones comes with better specs at the 99 price range
Bought my phone with 2.1 installed. Used it like that for a week or so then updated to official 2.2. No difference at all.
Then came the 2.3.4. Everything is the same. Then 2.3.7. Same again.
I use my phone as a phone and a navigation device. So these updates do me no good. Release of Navigon for android was big news for me. I can't say the same thing for the 2.3.
Yeah that's pretty the same for me. The few updates I've had have at least speeded boot time and UI lag is less. It actually came with 1.6, upgraded to 2.1 and nothing since. There's a 2 year support for updates says Sony Ericsson, this was before the Google agreement. Like the guy above, an updated version of the phone was released 1 year later with incredible specs for much cheaper, but I paid a lot for it first time around.
I suppose people are used to upgrade their phones without really using them often.
I'm looking to upgrade my phone, and am having trouble deciding which phone to purchase. For reference, any phone I buy will be rooted with the hopes of placing the latest release of CM on it. I am also a Verizon user, and will be using the Verizon version of these phones.
Galaxy Nexus:
Pros: Relatively cheap, made by Google so guaranteed a steady stream of updates for the next year or two, large community base.
Cons: Its hardware isn't top notch (although still good), and could possibly be considered 'outdated' in the Android world within the next few months.
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
Pros: Fantastic hardware, large community base (although not as large as the above's), if not updated regularly I can still see the community bringing out next-version updates via ROMs for the foreseeable future.
Cons: Expensive, may be a few weeks till rooted and custom ROMs available.
Of course, there's always the option that I wait a few months for Google to release some new phones with Jelly Bean pre-installed.
Thoughts?
ejsholly said:
I'm looking to upgrade my phone, and am having trouble deciding which phone to purchase. For reference, any phone I buy will be rooted with the hopes of placing the latest release of CM on it. I am also a Verizon user, and will be using the Verizon version of these phones.
Galaxy Nexus:
Pros: Relatively cheap, made by Google so guaranteed a steady stream of updates for the next year or two, large community base.
Cons: Its hardware isn't top notch (although still good), and could possibly be considered 'outdated' in the Android world within the next few months.
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
Pros: Fantastic hardware, large community base (although not as large as the above's), if not updated regularly I can still see the community bringing out next-version updates via ROMs for the foreseeable future.
Cons: Expensive, may be a few weeks till rooted and custom ROMs available.
Of course, there's always the option that I wait a few months for Google to release some new phones with Jelly Bean pre-installed.
Thoughts?
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it depends on your opinion if you have the advantage of budget go for s3 without a 2nd thought....nexus if are budget constrained...both of them are best in their own price range...s3 better specs camera..nexus camera is not top class which might come into consideration.,....i dunno abt carriears in us....don know about that..........hope this helps.......
I would get the SIII, since Nexus doesn't have SD card and SIII specs are very appealing. But I find Nexus way prettier than SIII.
I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
I think its important so Sony can become a force to recon with.
In the second half of the year the newer S805 chipset will be out, thus Z3 is a much needed upgrade over Z2 to keep Sony ahead of the competition.
If you look at it, Samsung releases a new flagship every 6 months too, in the form of Galaxy S lineup and Galaxy Note lineup.
Sony has been releasing a flagship or improved variant every six months for years. Count on another this holiday season.
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6 month release cycle is their philosophy for always being able to stay cutting edge and have the latest hardware offerings.
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As long as Sony doesn't skimp on the design and improvements, I think it's great that they release a flagship every 6 months. After all, even if they don't, someone else will release a phone with better specs in that time frame and your phone still won't be top of the line anymore. That's just the way technology works.
Probably a Z Ultra 2
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Fadeless said:
I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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I totally agree with the whole idea of "making new flagship device every 6 months". However, with their current distribution strategy, that idea is worthless because consumers don't have access to their devices in a timely manner. This bottleneck is the greatest constraint that prevents them from capturing more market share, especially in US.
Whatever happens with the Z3 i hope Sony learn their bloody lesson and announce and release phones within a 4 week window like HTC and Samsung usually do... not this 2-3 month later bull crap.
@Fadeless
I don't know where you have been but sony is releasing a new flagship every 6 months since the year 2011. the reason or one of the reason for it is because the japanese consumer demands it. anyway, it doesn't really matter since most people buy an expensive phone for a good 3 years or more and you should buy what you like and be happy with your purchase regardless of what is coming in the future.
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
They said that they will release another flagship this year and that they won't stick to a single design. So basically it doesn't necessarily have to be Z3... might be X1 or F1 or any other new series with a different design.
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
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YeeeeeeeeeeeeeS
I don't no why Sony use ( take 16 GB ) from Samsung !
Must take 32 GB
I don't like to spend a lot of money on phones so I got the A3 in 2020 at a very good discount. I just recently noticed that I don't get updates anymore and that security patch in August was the last one. I didn't know that Android One only had 3 years in mind.
For example Iphone 7 has updates since 2016. It's a shame Android supporti ends so fast. Read that Pixels have 5 years
Thinking about getting a Pixel6a or maybe root this one and try custom roms but I don't have the time anymore for bugtesting.
What I want is a small phone and a good support.