Hey all,
I haven't seen this discussed but I may have missed it so apologies if I did.
I love tinkering with my phone, flashing new roms, etc. And I love the features that come with many of the CM based roms. What makes them a dealbreaker though is everyone I've tried completely ruins the camera in comparison to the TW based roms. I have an 18 month old son and while the TW based roms are instant taking pictures and can catch him as he runs by, the CM based ones are literally worthless as he's not exactly keen on standing still so daddy can get a picture!
Anyone have any advice? or am I SOL and need to stick with TW?
Thanks!
teddykgb715 said:
Hey all,
I haven't seen this discussed but I may have missed it so apologies if I did.
I love tinkering with my phone, flashing new roms, etc. And I love the features that come with many of the CM based roms. What makes them a dealbreaker though is everyone I've tried completely ruins the camera in comparison to the TW based roms. I have an 18 month old son and while the TW based roms are instant taking pictures and can catch him as he runs by, the CM based ones are literally worthless as he's not exactly keen on standing still so daddy can get a picture!
Anyone have any advice? or am I SOL and need to stick with TW?
Thanks!
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I'm not really sure because I don't flash AOSP too often, but try the Google Edition S4 camera (tons of links for the apk download) and see if it's any better.
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I have flashed back and forth from both and I have found there is no way that truly bridges the performance gap between the camera that TW ROMs have and AOSP ROMs. CM has a camera app called Focal that does its best to address this, but it is still not comparable.
I have also tried flashing the S4 camera on my AOSP installations as suggested above. It still does not work as well and will destabilize after a few reboots, requiring you to flash again and again.
Long story short, if you care about camera performance, stick to TW-based ROMs.
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I was given a Verizon HTC 4G Thunderbolt today. My wifes old Fascinate was on the verge of dying, so it was perfect timing. I got her all setup with her apps/contacts and she started learning how to use her new phone..... but now that she's sleeping I figured I would "enhance" her new phone and maybe learn a little something in the meantime. If I don't manage to turn it into a paperweight
I've never flashed a ROM before, but I've rooted many phones. I managed to get this one rooted and have downloaded a few roms (haven't flashed them yet), but after going through the different options it seems like you are always sacrificing something with a rom, is this normal?
I found that one rom where the wifi didn't work (this is a must for my wifes limited data plan), I found another rom where the camera didn't work (We have 3 kids and her phone is basically her camera), I found another one where 4G wasn't supported (she's going from a 3G to a 4G phone, I want her to use that feature).
Anyway, it just seems like each one has something that doesn't work...Is this normal or did I just happen to click on the ones that have issues?
vetteguy112233 said:
Anyway, it just seems like each one has something that doesn't work...Is this normal or did I just happen to click on the ones that have issues?
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Which ROMs have you downloaded? I'd recommend ThunderShed for a Gingerbread base. I used that for several months without issue. I'm on Liquid's ICS now and only have the reported camcorder issue although the camera still works.
I haven't flashed anything yet, I just started downloading roms and happened to notice that Liquid didn't have a working video camera. I can't remember the names of each one, but as mentioned before, one didn't have a working wifi, one didn't support 4G.... so it just seemed like each one was missing something.
I'll look into the one you mentioned, thanks!
If youre looking for a ics sense 3.6 based rom with everything working I suggest trying out nusense 3.6. its pretty good and everything seems to work. what I am running now.
If you want a GB then for aosp thundershed is the way to go. If you want a good sense gb rom skyraider is perfect when it comes to sense roms and everything works on those 2.
Oh and might want to ask your wife if she wants you messing with her phone. Messing with a womans phone is like messing with her kid not a great idea lol. I know my wife has told me if I root her phone she will kill me.
Dark Jedi said:
If youre looking for a ics sense 3.6 based rom with everything working I suggest trying out nusense 3.6. its pretty good and everything seems to work. what I am running now.
If you want a GB then for aosp thundershed is the way to go. If you want a good sense gb rom skyraider is perfect when it comes to sense roms and everything works on those 2.
Oh and might want to ask your wife if she wants you messing with her phone. Messing with a womans phone is like messing with her kid not a great idea lol. I know my wife has told me if I root her phone she will kill me.
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LOL, I'll check them out, THANKS!
As for me rooting her phone, she doesn't have a clue what that means, she just knows that now she doesn't have ads in her games and she likes that.
She did complain that the HTC interface is way different than the Samsung interface (DUH), are there ary roms that would make it look/act like her Samsung?
Samsung usually runs aosp so if you flash liquid ics she may not notice if you use a touchwiz theme.
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I found this thread, is it my only option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061883
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Samsung usually runs aosp so if you flash liquid ics she may not notice if you use a touchwiz theme.
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Liquid ICS doesn't have a working video camera...this will definately piss her off!
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Liquid ICS doesn't have a working video camera...this will definately piss her off!
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Lol I forgot about that because I never use it.
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Also some people has had the camera to stop working also after while. Yeah sense is way different than touchwiz. You could look for a theme that mimics touchwiz.
You could download a launcher like HOLO, Go launcher and AWD (think thats what its called.) .
I will second the recommendation of Thundershed 1.6, which has been flawless since I flashed it (everything works, runs super fast and smooth, and battery life is way better than stock and most other custom ROMs). You do need to bear in mind that these are custom ROMs, meaning each is designed to reflect the priorities of the designer and involve a certain degree of risk (rooting and replacing the stock ROM invalidates warraty), but in my experience the custom ROMs I have used (only two: BAMF Son Of A Bliss aka SOAB 1.4; Thundershed 1.6) have been as stable (if not more stable) than the original Thunderbolt. Also keep in mind, *every* device is different and custom ROMs act differently on every device.
Those caveats in place, I'd research different custom ROMs, and how each can be customized with different launchers, lockscreens and themes, and try one or two out. The Sense-based ROMs will act more like the stock Thunderbolt. Sense based ROMs include SOAB, Skyraider Zeus, and BAMF Forever, and the AOSP ROMs include Thundershed, Liquid Smooth 3.2, and SFK's CM7 build. While everyone is excited about the new ICS custom ROMs they still seem pretty "BETA" (Santod's NuSense 3.6 seems furthest along) like and so I'd wait until all of the bugs are worked out and focus more on Gingerbread ROMs for your "daily driver."
Hope this helps.
I'm running MIUI ROM from Th3Bill and loving it (thanks Th3Bill!), the latest release (.29) has transformed my phone - again.
I just have a question though.
I notice the bill releases lots of JB roms (AOKP, Paranoid Android, CNA, MIUI)..
I'm uncertain as to the difference between all of these.
do any work better or worse on the atrix 4g?
Don't get me wrong i'm not doubting TheBill for one microsecond, but am just curious as to why so many roms would be released by one person unless they have some difference between them, or is it just a different look and feel?
I guess i'm just wanting the best JB experience i can get with the ROMS currently available, and short of 'just trying them all', well. i took the lazy route and posted here to ask what fundamental differences there are to an end user perspective.
i understand the underlying release may have features which do not work with the atrix (cam/fp-sensor/tether) and this will be comon accross all ROMS using this underlying release.
thanks.
Gavin.
Best thing to do is probably use each for a day and see which ones have the features you like/need.
I haven't tried cna or pa yet, so I can't comment on their stability. I think since they are all based off the same cm10 that their issues (beyond the common issues of all the roms) are upstream. For example, I don't think any of the roms have camcorder 100 percent working, or native wifi hot spot. The individual roms probably have some smaller bugs that are upstream of th3Bill's work, like I said.
Here's a rough breakdown: miui is very themed/themeable and has some custom features like a cool lock screen, sms pop ups,... You probably know miui already, since you are on it. It's the most different from the rest.
Paranoid android specializes in tabet/phone hybrid ui, tweaking dpi for individual apps without reboot (I think)
Cna is the only jb rom (I think) that has custom lock screen targets yet. I don't know much about it other than that.
I'm on aokp, and I really like it. I like the notification toggles with a brightness bar underneath, and I like the rest of the systemui tweaks.
People can add to this, or correct me if I'm wrong about any of it.
Unfortunately it's a bit time consuming to set up a new rom every day, but there is only 4, so I'm sure you can find the time.... At some point.
I hope that helps a tiny bit. I'm still exploring them myself =)
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Thanks for the quick and detailed reply.
Trust me to chose the 'most different' ROM (MIUI)
This is good information to have thank you, and gives me some comfort that i'm not missing out on anything, also that just trying each rom for a day or two is the way to do it.
Cheers for your help, although as my phone is a daily runner, i'll probably stick with what i know now (MIUI).
I may find a cheep atrix to try loading other roms onto soon and perhaps be adventurous with trying other roms on that.
many thanks
Gavin
Miui is definitely my favorite but it feels a little heavy/less responsive compared to aokp/cm10.
I can't comment on cna, or pa because I've never used them.
Aokp/cm10 are great. Fast and smooth and a few of the paid themes lurking around the play store are absolutely stunning, Dream, Lucid, PopStyle all amazing. I use Aokp because of it advanced visual preferences like centered clock, weather under toggles, sliders, lock screen tweaks, on screen nav buttons, stuff like that
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I need my phone during the week too, so I usually try one out over the weekend. I definitely can't keep up with th3bill like that hah
Epinter
I´m using Epinter´s CM10 and I´m loving it. I find it very fast and my battery last all day.
I´ve tried MIUI and personally is the one I like the least. AOKP is good also, but not as good as Epinter.
I tried JB roms and my first ROM was CNA. But the provided build during my install had issues and Bill said he might take couple more days. Since it was more related to emails, i have to switch back to other ROM and switched to epinter.
I am on epinter CM10 and its i like it. But even in this ROM, i am having issues with apps like shopkicks not getting loaded.
And few times, when i launch four square app, i will see like slanting colored lines until i reboot.
Also rarely WiFi issues it wont connect and even not possible to disable Wifi until reboot.
But Battery wise i get nearly 1.5 to 2 days with regular use of browsing, 2 emails , texting and phonecalls.
as the title says, looking for suggestions on a rom with a good working video camera. i've run tron and infection from neo and absolutely adore them. 4.2 is better than .1 but still not perfect, just kinda playing the field and looking for suggestions on things from people who have had good experiences with any particular rom. i've been running jellybean, so i'm a bit spoiled and don't really wanna go backwards. thanks all!
chrisosaur said:
as the title says, looking for suggestions on a rom with a good working video camera. i've run tron and infection from neo and absolutely adore them. 4.2 is better than .1 but still not perfect, just kinda playing the field and looking for suggestions on things from people who have had good experiences with any particular rom. i've been running jellybean, so i'm a bit spoiled and don't really wanna go backwards. thanks all!
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If you don't want to go backwards then I'm afraid to say that you are stuck. There is a definite drawback to running the cutting edge with an aging phone. One of the most glaring is the lack of a flawlessly working video camera. Neo just updated his Rage ROM (which is ICS, of course), and that update may bring some of the sweetness of JB to ICS (I haven't run it yet so I can't confirm yet). However, Chad had just about everything but bluetooth calling nailed with ICS AOSP, so that would be your best bet if you want to remain on AOSP. Sense will give you the absolute best video recording and playback; hands down. It's a trade-off, and really hard to make the decision sometimes!
Are there bad camera issues with any of the sense 4+ Roms? Just really over stock in general. I don't use Bluetooth and tether isn't too important to me. Just wanna stay away from stock and still have a working camera/camcorder
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Are there bad camera issues with any of the sense 4+ Roms? Just really over stock in general. I don't use Bluetooth and tether isn't too important to me. Just wanna stay away from stock and still have a working camera/camcorder
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No, Sense 4+ cameras are just as good as the 3.6 camera. HTC definitely got their camera app right. AOSP ROMs don't have quite the same quality, but they will suffice if you don't want to compromise the slickness of your phone.
chrisosaur said:
as the title says, looking for suggestions on a rom with a good working video camera. i've run tron and infection from neo and absolutely adore them. 4.2 is better than .1 but still not perfect, just kinda playing the field and looking for suggestions on things from people who have had good experiences with any particular rom. i've been running jellybean, so i'm a bit spoiled and don't really wanna go backwards. thanks all!
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I was on Infection and the "Dr. Who". They are really cool, but felt like a wanted something a little more stable....Apparently so did Neo, while the bugs are being worked out so he released a new version of RAGE AOSP, optimized with his recent work....Its ICS, but it barely misses a beat......yes...its not quite as buttery, but its as close as I've seen on ICS and soooo stable!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899085
From what I have seen even with the thunderbolt. If you want great pictures and videos then you have to run a sense ROM. As good as aosp is over all the camera section just sucks in quality of photo. To bad you can't incorporate the sense camera part in to aosp. Only thing I can say is have a backup of both but thats just not practical. I only run sense ROMs as the battery life is much better than it was on my bolt running aosp GB and ICS. I haven't been brave enough to do s off yet. Good luck on finding your holy grail.
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thanks everyone, it's much appreciated. if i do want to go back to ICS rage or even a sense rom, will i have to do anything special as far as flashing the rom goes? i'm s-on still so i'm familiar with flashing the rom/kernal...anything extra needed to get on a sense 4+ rom or go back to Rage?
chrisosaur said:
thanks everyone, it's much appreciated. if i do want to go back to ICS rage or even a sense rom, will i have to do anything special as far as flashing the rom goes? i'm s-on still so i'm familiar with flashing the rom/kernal...anything extra needed to get on a sense 4+ rom or go back to Rage?
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I never had to do anything special but I never flashed an aosp ROM on my rezound. So just as long as you flash what you need to in the boot loader you should be good to go.
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So i'm moving to the US soon and I always wanted a N4 cause of the Android Vanilla but couldn't get one from my current country.
Right now I have an S3 which is cool and everything but I just freakin hate touchwiz roms and CM roms are still not completely functional so..... I know that on hardware perspective the N4 doesn't compare to the S3 but would like to hear some feedback cause the N5 could be near.
would you guys trade an S3 for a N4 if you had the chance?
Honestly, if you want the hardware power, but the vanilla android. Try out a launcher...
Also, define CM roms aren't fully functional?
They lack radio and have minor bugs here and there, but it's still worth it. Instead of downgrading (hardware-wise) to an N4.
Also there are AOSP roms... Never tried one though .
But no, would never trade S3 for N4.
And would recommend nobody to ever do it xP
Valdorous said:
Honestly, if you want the hardware power, but the vanilla android. Try out a launcher...
Also, define CM roms aren't fully functional?
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actually I have tried PARANOID, CM, PACMAN, OMEGA, SLIMICS, etc. You name the ROM and I tried it but since most of them are CM based they all share the common bugs, for instance we had a camera problem (not sure if it's fixed already), also wifi tethering didn't quite work and I use that feature a lot to share internet to my GF, some weird issues with sounds. Never used radio so I don't really miss that feature.
Right now my phone is heavily customized with an Omega ROM, Apex Launcher, Jkay Framework so it actually looks like Android Vanilla, BUT it doesn't feel like it.
guess ill just wait for the N5 and keep my brain shut for now.
thanks
Dude, wow...
Never ever come across any-issues except camera related issues...
Try out SlimBean and do not judge it based on the starting DPI (adjust in interface -> General etc) as is starts out in Tablet mode XD..
Anyways, I've yet to come across any bugs (and wifi tethering works fine, camera too) etc.
(Week later reply, but yeah )
Hello All,
I was wondering if any of you have recommendations on a Sense Based ROM for the EVO LTE? I'm holding out for the upcoming M10 and I'm currently user a ROM based off the last 4.3 update leaked from HTC, however I've noticed that many of the apps I regularly use are requiring more recent Android OS. I have tried Cyanogenmod based ROMS in the past but I prefer Sense and I haven't seen too many fully working roms based off it. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Hybrid0NE said:
Hello All,
I was wondering if any of you have recommendations on a Sense Based ROM for the EVO LTE? I'm holding out for the upcoming M10 and I'm currently user a ROM based off the last 4.3 update leaked from HTC, however I've noticed that many of the apps I regularly use are requiring more recent Android OS. I have tried Cyanogenmod based ROMS in the past but I prefer Sense and I haven't seen too many fully working roms based off it. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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I always liked Viper, but you aren't going to find anything beyond 4.3 outside of AOSP though. Since there was never any official KitKat for this phone there's nothing to build off of. There may have been some attempt at a port that i've forgotten about but i doubt it. i was also a fan of sense to some extent, but i jumped to CM a long time ago to stay current and i think i'd have a hard time going back at this point.
actually come to think of it, for a little while there when there were some bugs to CM that i couldn't get past, i'd actually loaded up a stock/rooted 4.3 and slapped xposed overtop of it to get (almost) all the features i'd come to live by in CM.
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I take that back, i completely forgot about this fella. I think i'd tried it out early in development and maybe couldn't get it to flash/boot on my device, but it sounds like this release is working.
see the last post for a working download link graciously shared by CTB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/evo...ent/rom-insertcoin-3-0-6-5-11-401-10-t2873191
dangle79 said:
I always liked Viper, but you aren't going to find anything beyond 4.3 outside of AOSP though. Since there was never any official KitKat for this phone there's nothing to build off of. There may have been some attempt at a port that i've forgotten about but i doubt it. i was also a fan of sense to some extent, but i jumped to CM a long time ago to stay current and i think i'd have a hard time going back at this point.
actually come to think of it, for a little while there when there were some bugs to CM that i couldn't get past, i'd actually loaded up a stock/rooted 4.3 and slapped xposed overtop of it to get (almost) all the features i'd come to live by in CM.
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I take that back, i completely forgot about this fella. I think i'd tried it out early in development and maybe couldn't get it to flash/boot on my device, but it sounds like this release is working.
see the last post for a working download link graciously shared by CTB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/evo...ent/rom-insertcoin-3-0-6-5-11-401-10-t2873191
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Thanks for the lead! I'm going to try this out today after I backup my data.