[Q] General Consensus on Safe Way to Backup Apps, etc. - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hi all,
I'm wondering what the preferred method or app is for backing up your apps when preparing to switch ROMs. I'd love to try out some more ROMs, but it's a pain to have to reinstall everything every time.
I assume the gold standard is still Titanium Backup (Pro?), but I remember hearing something about some phones having issues when doing this... is the S4 OK with this method? Is there any other safe, easy ways you know of?
I also have heard that backing up and restoring stuff with apps like Titanium can incite glitches and bugs. Is there truth to that? Is it when attempting to back up any particular item(s)?
Thanks for your input.

I only use ROM Toolbox Pro. Never fails to do what I tell it to
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Dubbsy said:
I only use ROM Toolbox Pro. Never fails to do what I tell it to
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I used Tibu for the first time last night to restore apps when I put a new ROM on my Xoom. It worked like a charm! Took a while for them to all install. The only thing that didn't work was the supposed ability to create a zip that you could install Tibu and the apps from in recovery mode.

Kaiya_FL said:
I used Tibu for the first time last night to restore apps when I put a new ROM on my Xoom. It worked like a charm! Took a while for them to all install. The only thing that didn't work was the supposed ability to create a zip that you could install Tibu and the apps from in recovery mode.
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I never trust those build a zip for you apps. I know it's possible to build a zip with your apps and data in it, I just don't like letting an app do it for me.

Dubbsy said:
I only use ROM Toolbox Pro. Never fails to do what I tell it to
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I second this. Simple easy and fast.
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[Q] not receiving texts/calls. help?

for the second time in the last two months, I have begun not receiving texts or calls on my HTC Droid Eris running KaosFroyo v38. I hesitated and eventually decided against posting it there because I can't be sure it's anything in his ROM causing the issue (I may have been running Tazz's Froyo w/ Sense ROM the first time it happened).
I can send texts fine, and people are receiving them, but when they reply, I get absolutely nothing. I can make calls fine as well. When someone tries to call me, their phone says their call cannot be completed (this has only been tested with one phone).
This is becoming quite debilitating because I don't even know when people are trying to contact me, so any help would be appreciated.
NOTE: I have already tried activating the phone through Verizon. Hasn't helped.
I had a similar problem I wasn't receiving text messages. I ended up having to use the flashback21 rom. Everything is fine now.
what does that ROM do?
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natemup said:
what does that ROM do?
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Any 2.1 sense based rom should fix your problem. You can make a nand of your current setup, flash any 2.1 rom you want boot it check text or phone call and then restore your nand backup for froyo. This should solve the problem but doesn't actually fix why it happened in the first place. How did you get them to start working again the first time? Most people that I've seen with this problem did this "reset" and I hadn't heard of the problem reoccurring but I wouldn't consider it a permanent fix. I personally have no idea what could be happening...not sure if Verizon is not seeing the phone as active since it doesn't have official software or what but I'm pretty sure it's something happening on their end and would have no idea of a way to prevent it unfortunately.
Edit: And you are correct it's not really a KaosFroyo issue as much as just a Froyo issue.
I'll use this opportunity to ask this: how does the NAND backup work (I think I've seen it in the recovery menu, but never used it), and also: whats the best way to backup/restore my apps and settings?
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natemup said:
I'll use this opportunity to ask this: how does the NAND backup work (I think I've seen it in the recovery menu, but never used it), and also: whats the best way to backup/restore my apps and settings?
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If you boot to recovery and you will see the nand option then you can choose nand backup....it will backup everything on the phone in it's current state including apps,settings, text messages and all. When you are ready to restore it you go back into recovery and back to nand and choose restore. You will only have one if this is your first time doing it but it will say BDS-XXXXXXXX where the x's are numbers that represent the date and time you made the backup(note the number of x's i put there is not the exact amount there will be). Anyway you choose that backup and it will ask if you want to restore it simalar to how it asks when you go to flash a rom. Its really a very simple process and very handy to have a backup. You can make as many backups as you can fit on your card. You can also copy the backups off the card to your pc if you want too.
wow. no more "app backup" apps from the Market for me! thanks for being so quick and helpful! Luckily, attempting to make a call just a second ago caused the phone to crash and reboot, which apparently fixed the problem (I got a boatload of texts as soon as the phone rebooted). Weird.
natemup said:
wow. no more "app backup" apps from the Market for me! thanks for being so quick and helpful! Luckily, attempting to make a call just a second ago caused the phone to crash and reboot, which apparently fixed the problem (I got a boatload of texts as soon as the phone rebooted). Weird.
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lol yeah rebooting the phone is always the first thing to try....nand does not replace backup apps though. It only backs them up for that current rom. When you restore a nand it restores the rom that was on the phone when you made the nand so you can't use it to back up info going from one rom to another or upgrading to a newer version of the rom because the nand will just reinstall the old rom.
natemup said:
I'll use this opportunity to ask this: how does the NAND backup work (I think I've seen it in the recovery menu, but never used it), and also: whats the best way to backup/restore my apps and settings?
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natemup said:
wow. no more "app backup" apps from the Market for me! thanks for being so quick and helpful! Luckily, attempting to make a call just a second ago caused the phone to crash and reboot, which apparently fixed the problem (I got a boatload of texts as soon as the phone rebooted). Weird.
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You can use Titanium Backup, which is extremely popular. There's a free version on the market but I think the free version only does one app at a time. There's also My Backup Pro. Also here on xda you can find QtADB, which, while the phone is connected to the computer, you can use to backup and restore apps and their data. I actually like this way best so far. The backup files are still on your SD card, you just control the backup and restore from the computer.
It sounds like it may be stuck in EVDO only. If your ROM has EPST maybe you can change it.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You can use Titanium Backup, which is extremely popular. There's a free version on the market but I think the free version only does one app at a time. There's also My Backup Pro. Also here on xda you can find QtADB, which, while the phone is connected to the computer, you can use to backup and restore apps and their data. I actually like this way best so far. The backup files are still on your SD card, you just control the backup and restore from the computer.
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with My Backup Pro (I'm going to download the root version), how do I wipe the phone without wiping the MBP app? do I just flash a new rom, re-download the app, and restore?
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natemup said:
with My Backup Pro (I'm going to download the root version), how do I wipe the phone without wiping the MBP app? do I just flash a new rom, re-download the app, and restore?
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Yes, exactly. There are other ways, but that's the simplest. You're welcome!

Titanium Headache

Titanium has been giving me problems for awhile. I haven't flashed anything for a couple months so it hasn't been a big deal, but today when I upgraded the firmware and wound up with some "issues", I really needed to be able to let Titanium do its thing and restore my stuff back like usual. No go.
I'm talking with the TB development people, but in case any of you masters out there have run across this, I thought I'd share.
After a new flash, TB doesn't access my backups. It sees them; they are all crossed out and the summary says I have none to restore. I can tap one and it opens up, but all of the boxes are grayed out. (See pic). Then, if I re-download the app from the store and install it, TB will access it and allow me to restore data only.
So in order to "restore" my apps, I have to download them one at a time from the market first. Any ideas?
I'd force close TB, move the files to a new folder, configure TB to use the new folder
dyetheskin said:
I'd force close TB, move the files to a new folder, configure TB to use the new folder
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I had the same problem. I created a new file on the ext_sd and changed the backup folder location in preferences and it magically worked. It wouldn't work on the internal sd for some reason
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Thanks, guys, tried both of those already: no dice.
Are you going from ICS back to gingerbread? if so it won't work as ICS will "optimize" all of your apps.
rfarrah said:
Thanks, guys, tried both of those already: no dice.
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Maybe the backup is too old? Dont know if that's possible. Also, check to see if the app has superuser permissions
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dlumberg said:
Are you going from ICS back to gingerbread? if so it won't work as ICS will "optimize" all of your apps.
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Nope ICS (RezROM 3.4) to ICS (RezROM and CleanROM )(and in the past, GB to ICS)
brycekerr said:
Maybe the backup is too old? Dont know if that's possible. Also, check to see if the app has superuser permissions Sent from my RezAwesome S-Off running Scott's CleanROM 4.5
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Nope, always a fresh backup. Thanks, guys - keep 'em coming!
rfarrah said:
Titanium has been giving me problems for awhile. I haven't flashed anything for a couple months so it hasn't been a big deal, but today when I upgraded the firmware and wound up with some "issues", I really needed to be able to let Titanium do its thing and restore my stuff back like usual. No go.
I'm talking with the TB development people, but in case any of you masters out there have run across this, I thought I'd share.
After a new flash, TB doesn't access my backups. It sees them; they are all crossed out and the summary says I have none to restore. I can tap one and it opens up, but all of the boxes are grayed out. (See pic). Then, if I re-download the app from the store and install it, TB will access it and allow me to restore data only.
So in order to "restore" my apps, I have to download them one at a time from the market first. Any ideas?
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I use astro file manger it works much better than titanium backup plus it doubles as a file manager and an application backup and restore application .... and I have swapped between gb and ICS with no issues multiple times
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I've used Astro too, for a LONG time. Never tried their backup. Thanks!
Do yourself a favor and use My backup root instead. So much better than titanium.
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I love titanium. But I do have my backup folder on my SD card because ROM flashes wipe the internal one. My apps will be all crossed out and junk until I direct it to the new folder.
GrayTheWolf said:
I love titanium. But I do have my backup folder on my SD card because ROM flashes wipe the internal one. My apps will be all crossed out and junk until I direct it to the new folder.
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Yeah, I've tried directing it to several different folders. No luck.
GrayTheWolf said:
I love titanium. But I do have my backup folder on my SD card because ROM flashes wipe the internal one. My apps will be all crossed out and junk until I direct it to the new folder.
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Strange, I have never had a ROM flash wipe my internal sd card. That's where my TiB backups are stored. The only time it got wiped was from the s-off procedure and a radio update.
Kdog71588 said:
I use astro file manger it works much better than titanium backup plus it doubles as a file manager and an application backup and restore application .... and I have swapped between gb and ICS with no issues multiple times
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Personally, even though I paid for Titanium BU Pro a few years ago I don't even bother installing it anymore.
All I use now is AppMonster Pro & I never get the errors/FC's etc. that TBU users experience on a regular basis......
trickster2369 said:
Strange, I have never had a ROM flash wipe my internal sd card. That's where my TiB backups are stored. The only time it got wiped was from the s-off procedure and a radio update.
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Well it doesn't really wipe the whole SD card, but clears key folders. I store my backups on my external card and then also back them up to my computer. Just in case...
I had the same issue at first. Moved my backups from internal to external sd. Used dropbox to upload and sync to a folder on my account. When flashing a new ROM I just download TiBu, open it up, make sure the directory is right and then open the menu, hit the reload titanium option and after that hit the menu again and hit the refresh apps button. Works for me every time.
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nosympathy said:
Do yourself a favor and use My backup root instead. So much better than titanium.
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jmorton10 said:
Personally, even though I paid for Titanium BU Pro a few years ago I don't even bother installing it anymore.
All I use now is AppMonster Pro & I never get the errors/FC's etc. that TBU users experience on a regular basis......
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didn't think either of these restored app data though. That is why people use titanium.
I know I had problems with it earlier this year, but it seems to get updated every week here lately and no problems at all. I switched my backup folder to the sd card and it restores apps and data no problem.
I just flashed Venesaur, and I haven't had an issue with TiBu.
In fact, I don't think I've ever had an issue with it. Except when I didn't know how to do something.
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[Q] APP2Zip-Compatible with Rezound?

Has anyone tried this APK to see if it's compatible with Rezound? I downloaded the free version but want to know if the pro works like it should. I believe the Pro backs up APK data.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=app2zip
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I just flashed a new ROM and tried the free version of the APK. It worked with the exception of a couple APK's having FC's. I had to Re Install Swiftkey 3 and Titanium backup was giving me a little problems but it corrected itself. I'll report back any other issues I find but so far this APK is a winner.
AndroidGraphix said:
Has anyone tried this APK to see if it's compatible with Rezound? I downloaded the free version but want to know if the pro works like it should. I believe the Pro backs up APK data.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=app2zip
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Also curious to see whether this works reliably on Rezound. There is one review from Rezound user in Play Market.
Also curious what makes this better than just restoring the \data partition via Amon Ra after flashing ROM update (wouldn't do that between different ROMs, but within ROMs, I have).
hgoldner said:
Also curious to see whether this works reliably on Rezound. There is one review from Rezound user in Play Market.
Also curious what makes this better than just restoring the \data partition via Amon Ra after flashing ROM update (wouldn't do that between different ROMs, but within ROMs, I have).
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I have the free version and it is very easy to re-install all your apps. I did notice that when I went from GB to ICS some of the apps didn't work so I had to re-install from the play store (4-5), much easier than trying to re-install 60 apps manually.:laugh:
I have the pro version from an older device but I never really used it with the Rezound. What do you want me to test? I can try it.
Maybe I can make a flashable zip for some random app and you can see if you can flash it?
Cares said:
I have the pro version from an older device but I never really used it with the Rezound. What do you want me to test? I can try it.
Maybe I can make a flashable zip for some random app and you can see if you can flash it?
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I'm principally interested in whether the app enables persistence of Exchange data across ROM flashes by enabling a backup. Right now, every time a new ROM is flashed, or even if I switch slots in Boot Manager, I have to completely resynch (i.e. recreate) all Exchange data. With 1700+ contacts, that's a serious impediment.
Frankly, I'm not sure where that data is stored...whether in an app or in a setting, or even if it's in the data partition. Maybe I should go hunting for it....
I know MyBackup Pro will back up contacts, but every time I use it to restore contacts, then sync with Exchange, I end up with two of everything.
hgoldner said:
I'm principally interested in whether the app enables persistence of Exchange data across ROM flashes by enabling a backup. Right now, every time a new ROM is flashed, or even if I switch slots in Boot Manager, I have to completely resynch (i.e. recreate) all Exchange data. With 1700+ contacts, that's a serious impediment.
Frankly, I'm not sure where that data is stored...whether in an app or in a setting, or even if it's in the data partition. Maybe I should go hunting for it....
I know MyBackup Pro will back up contacts, but every time I use it to restore contacts, then sync with Exchange, I end up with two of everything.
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I used to be big on using the exchange server for contact sync. I never found a way to restore contacts without duplication errors.
Maybe if there was a program that would use pst or ost files you'd be able to install contacts via sd card but it would also have to sync with Exchange server.
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In recovery it NOT works, abort install CWM 5.0.2.8 lg-p990
dietoro said:
In recovery it NOT works, abort install CWM 5.0.2.8 lg-p990
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CWM is not a reliable recovery on the Rezound (and this is a Rezound thread).
Try with TWRP or better still Amon Ra 3.15 which is the most reliable recovery on this handset.
That having been said, I did try flashing this through Amon Ra immediately after flashing Newtoroot's XxX Sense 4.0 ROM (but before booting the ROM, then returning to recovery) and I got bootloops. Had to rewipe and reflash, then didn't try restore this way.

How to uninstall ROM Manager Correctly ?

Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
lmarranzino said:
Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
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You don't have to remove it just don't use it
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122ninjas said:
You don't have to remove it just don't use it
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Thanks I really do not want to F up this phone for sure... :good:
I thought ROM manager was an app? (Never used it) So if it is, couldn't you use TiBu to remove it? If it's not an app, I would still like to know if it's possible to get rid of, without switching ROMs of course.
lmarranzino said:
Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
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R you talking about ROM manager the app or the custom recovery (clockworkmod)because u mentioned twrp which is a custom recovery not an app.
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You can use Root Uninstall to remove Rom Manager. As far as CWM, thats a keeper
jthatch12 said:
You can use Root Uninstall to remove Rom Manager. As far as CWM, thats a keeper
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ROM and CWM are together on my phone it came when I installed CM9.. I have not really used it though just to put in recovery mode. I have installed anything via internal SD from the PC to phone ... As it seemed prior the phone was having an issue so have avoided it. I am thinking just leave it as said and just don't use.
My phone is running smooth and great even battery life over the last couple days has doubled. I was just curious actually if TiBu would be the way to remove it IF I should need to.
eisenbathb said:
R you talking about ROM manager the app or the custom recovery (clockworkmod)because u mentioned twrp which is a custom recovery not an app.
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CM9 came with ROM and CWM together in one app upon install. I was curious if I should remove through TIBU and then download Goo Manager from the market instead and install that... I just don't want to mess up my phone again as it runs great without a hitch.
lmarranzino said:
ROM and CWM are together on my phone it came when I installed CM9.. I have not really used it though just to put in recovery mode. I have installed anything via internal SD from the PC to phone ... As it seemed prior the phone was having an issue so have avoided it. I am thinking just leave it as said and just don't use.
My phone is running smooth and great even battery life over the last couple days has doubled. I was just curious actually if TiBu would be the way to remove it IF I should need to.
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Just delete it from /system/app or move it from /system/app to your sd card. This uninstalls it while keeping the apk should you want to use it again.
Simba501 said:
Just delete it from /system/app or move it from /system/app to your sd card. This uninstalls it while keeping the apk should you want to use it again.
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Just do this ^^^ and don't worry about anything.
The phone has absolutely no dependency on rom manager. Neither does your recovery. Cwm operation is independent from rom manager.
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
Wing2468 said:
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
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Interesting, the thing is people don't need to totally delete Rom Manager, they just should not use it to avoid major issues.
Wing2468 said:
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
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Thanks all.
Disabled and all is running well

[Q] Apps from S4 to S5

Changing phones and what to transfer the apps that I like on the S4 to the S5.
Are there any compatibility issues that I should be aware of while doing this.
Since I am currently on KK 4.4.4 with the S4, my plan is to copy my none system apps to the S5?
Anyone having any problems in doing this?
These are both Samsung phones and the only real difference is going from Sprint to TMO. My current phone is rooted and has a custom ROM. I do plan to root the S5 immediately and install CWM Recovery.
cyaclone said:
Changing phones and what to transfer the apps that I like on the S4 to the S5.
Are there any compatibility issues that I should be aware of while doing this.
Since I am currently on KK 4.4.4 with the S4, my plan is to copy my none system apps to the S5?
Anyone having any problems in doing this?
These are both Samsung phones and the only real difference is going from Sprint to TMO. My current phone is rooted and has a custom ROM. I do plan to root the S5 immediately and install CWM Recovery.
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Using Titanium Backup has no issues. Came from S4 like you.
I used helium backup on mine.
Worked great.
elesbb said:
Using Titanium Backup has no issues. Came from S4 like you.
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Just to confirm, I can just install my apps from my last TB backup after I root the S5?
cyaclone said:
I can just install my apps from my last TB backup after I root the S5?
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Usually. It's not guaranteed or foolproof, but it will work with most apps. The best path is of course reinstalling apps. But many people find it easier to transplant them as you are planning to and it usually works.
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cyaclone said:
Just to confirm, I can just install my apps from my last TB backup after I root the S5?
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Only app that gave me an issue was Viper4Android because it restored the data and thought that the drivers were installed when they weren't, so repeatedly forced closed. But yeah just let TiB do its thing. You may encounter some apps force closing but a clear data usually fixes it. User apps aren't that big a problem when switching devices.
Thanks to all for the help, made the move with TB and all went well.
I use Shareit
This thread got me thinking, why doesn't android have a more native non root method for making and restoring backups with app data?
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