Hello everyone,
I thought as this is probably the largest tech forum out there, their was a very good chance that some fellow members would know lots about playing music files on tablets e.t.c.?:good:
I have many high quality 24/96 music files and for a time i used variouse Amp/Dacs on my old DELL Studio laptopI have tried to find out how if/how this would work with a TABLET and specifically the Xperia z?
Now if I have understood correctly It is possible to use an attached external amp with Android tablets but not a DAC owing to something with kernal
If anyone as any up to date feedback on the DAC/AMP Question I would be very interested to hear,I am no expert in these things,quite the opposite in fact.
Any help very much appreciated
Regards Steve:highfive:
Mine works great with my Wadia as a dac and volume control
Sent from TGAMO
Hi, I've tested with my Fiio E17 DAC& and I can confirm it works via USB Audio using a USB OTG cable.
Superb news re DAC/AMPs for ANDROID!
Good day Guys
That is really brilliant news,the fact some DAC/AMPs work with ANDROID devices:highfive:
I have spent a very long time trying to get a definitive answer on this question and all I did get was more questions? and a lot of complex debate....Revolving around the ANDROID KERNAL??so the Wadia dac/amp and Fiio E17work as intended as Dac amps?
I for one would like to hear more on this,so if you wish to elaborate further I would be very grateful
Regards Steve:good:
kenan3cn said:
Hi, I've tested with my Fiio E17 DAC& and I can confirm it works via USB Audio using a USB OTG cable.
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norsk1 said:
Good day Guys
That is really brilliant news,the fact some DAC/AMPs work with ANDROID devices:highfive:
I have spent a very long time trying to get a definitive answer on this question and all I did get was more questions? and a lot of complex debate....Revolving around the ANDROID KERNAL??so the Wadia dac/amp and Fiio E17work as intended as Dac amps?
I for one would like to hear more on this,so if you wish to elaborate further I would be very grateful
Regards Steve:good:
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Yes, my fiio worked both as a dac and an amp.
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Good To hear From You!
Good day kenan3cn
You don`t know how pleased I am to hear that it is indeed possible to us a DAC/AMP with Xperia Tablet
Please can I ask what particular cables you use,as i recall using different types with my laptops some 2 years ago now
and do you use dedicated power supply??(When at your desktop)not on the move!
very best wishes Steve
kenan3cn said:
Yes, my fiio worked both as a dac and an amp.
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If you mean the OTG cable, it is just a common cable bought off Amazon, it then connects to the compatible USB data cable, in my case a USB-USB Mini cable, and then the DAC itself. The fiio has built-in battery and can only be charged via USB, you can either power it with the tablet's battery though it drains fast, or turn off USB charging and go with its own battery provided it has already been charged. I have never used a desktop DAC unit so unfortunately I won't be able to answer any question about that
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norsk1 said:
Good day kenan3cn
You don`t know how pleased I am to hear that it is indeed possible to us a DAC/AMP with Xperia Tablet
Please can I ask what particular cables you use,as i recall using different types with my laptops some 2 years ago now
and do you use dedicated power supply??(When at your desktop)not on the move!
very best wishes Steve
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As far as I'm concerned if your dac has usb input then you are good to go!
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OTG Cable?
Hi Again
many thanks for your reply,much appreciated;
I am not very tech-minded as you can tell I suppose I was just wondering if adding better cables helped overhaul sound qulity? it`s a very subjective thing I know.What is an OTG cable please? sorry to be so dum
Regards Steve:good:
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If you mean the OTG cable, it is just a common cable bought off Amazon, it then connects to the compatible USB data cable, in my case a USB-USB Mini cable, and then the DAC itself. The fiio has built-in battery and can only be charged via USB, you can either power it with the tablet's battery though it drains fast, or turn off USB charging and go with its own battery provided it has already been charged. I have never used a desktop DAC unit so unfortunately I won't be able to answer any question about that
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As far as I'm concerned if your dac has usb input then you are good to go!
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Hi Again
many thanks for your reply,much appreciated;
I am not very tech-minded as you can tell I suppose I was just wondering if adding better cables helped overhaul sound qulity? it`s a very subjective thing I know.What is an OTG cable please? sorry to be so dum
Regards Steve:good:
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No worries. Here's a picture of a USB OTG cable:
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And here's something to read about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
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norsk1 said:
Hi Again
many thanks for your reply,much appreciated;
I am not very tech-minded as you can tell I suppose I was just wondering if adding better cables helped overhaul sound qulity? it`s a very subjective thing I know.What is an OTG cable please? sorry to be so dum
Regards Steve:good:
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To read about replacement cables and other hi-fi stuff, I suggest you have a look at a forum called Head-fi: http://www.head-fi.org
many thanks!
Hi
That`s great,many thanks I know which cable to buy now.
I am a long time member of the haed fi forum,but I do not always find it easy on there,must admit,sometimes it just gets so bogged down,in mines bigger than yours e.t.c.
all the best Steve:good:
kenan3cn said:
No worries. Here's a picture of a USB OTG cable:
And here's something to read about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
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To read about replacement cables and other hi-fi stuff, I suggest you have a look at a forum called Head-fi: http://www.head-fi.org
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Wadia
norsk1 said:
Good day Guys
That is really brilliant news,the fact some DAC/AMPs work with ANDROID devices:highfive:
I have spent a very long time trying to get a definitive answer on this question and all I did get was more questions? and a lot of complex debate....Revolving around the ANDROID KERNAL??so the Wadia dac/amp and Fiio E17work as intended as Dac amps?
I for one would like to hear more on this,so if you wish to elaborate further I would be very grateful
Regards Steve:good:
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I am using my Xperia Tablet Z through a wifi connection with Logitech Squeezebox app, controlling a hardwired lan Touch that is connected to my Wadia usingTransparent Reference coax to my Audio Research Classic 150 Mono blocks via Valhalla speaker cables to my Magneplaner 3.6r's - IT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE!!! - I also did root my Touch, and applied some tweaks that have helped the digital stream immensely. The Wadia/Transparent/Valhalla is definitely not a budget solution, however being able to wireless stream my MOG, or Pandora and have it sound as good as a redbook cd played on my Wadia is incredible.. If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask.
Good day TGAMO;
Really good to hear from you.
That set up of yours sounds like a beast!:highfive:
my audio-ambitions are not so grand,more`s the pity!
I just needed to know that at least your wadia & the fiio e17 will work as intended as an amp/ dac?
before today, I got lots of complex feedback [Elsewhere] about Android kernals and the like totally confused me,i must say.
Do we know if any other make of AMP/DAC works with Xperia z tablet? just a thought
best wishes Steve:good:
TGAMO said:
I am using my Xperia Tablet Z through a wifi connection with Logitech Squeezebox app, controlling a hardwired lan Touch that is connected to my Wadia usingTransparent Reference coax to my Audio Research Classic 150 Mono blocks via Valhalla speaker cables to my Magneplaner 3.6r's - IT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE!!! - I also did root my Touch, and applied some tweaks that have helped the digital stream immensely. The Wadia/Transparent/Valhalla is definitely not a budget solution, however being able to wireless stream my MOG, or Pandora and have it sound as good as a redbook cd played on my Wadia is incredible.. If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask.
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Good day TGAMO;
Really good to hear from you.
That set up of yours sounds like a beast!:highfive:
my audio-ambitions are not so grand,more`s the pity!
I just needed to know that at least your wadia & the fiio e17 will work as intended as an amp/ dac?
before today, I got lots of complex feedback [Elsewhere] about Android kernals and the like totally confused me,i must say.
Do we know if any other make of AMP/DAC works with Xperia z tablet? just a thought
best wishes Steve:good:
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Steve,
I think you have confused the postings I have the Wadia - another poster has the fiio - If you intend on directly plugging in your tablet to your device - you should research the type of device it is, and if it will support external memory cards via the USB input on the device, essentially that is all you are doing - using your tablet as a memory stick. I am not exactly sure of your intentions as there are many ways to make it work. Perhaps you could be more specific, as with audio specifics are necessary.
Regards
Will try to be clear
Hi again
no mix up,I know the Wadia is yours I said your Wadia and fiio 17
sorry if am not being clear enough.
I am hoping to do exactly the same as I did with my laptops,and that is use external DAC/ AMP to bypass on board Dac of TABELT + better sound all around Hopefully.You say may ways to make it work? I would be most interested to hear of the best way to make it work if you have the time? I have reserched several well known amp dacs and have received mixed replies as to can they be used with Android TABLETS full stop not only Xperai z,? folk were telling me there dacs do not woirk with tablets or I need to perform open heart surgery on the Android kernal e.t.c.
Yes I wish to connect an external dac/Amp to the Xperia and be able to play my 24/96 files in quality audio
Please keep the good advcie coming
regards Steve:good:
TGAMO said:
Steve,
I think you have confused the postings I have the Wadia - another poster has the fiio - If you intend on directly plugging in your tablet to your device - you should research the type of device it is, and if it will support external memory cards via the USB input on the device, essentially that is all you are doing - using your tablet as a memory stick. I am not exactly sure of your intentions as there are many ways to make it work. Perhaps you could be more specific, as with audio specifics are necessary.
Regards
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Good day TGAMO;
Really good to hear from you.
That set up of yours sounds like a beast!:highfive:
my audio-ambitions are not so grand,more`s the pity!
I just needed to know that at least your wadia & the fiio e17 will work as intended as an amp/ dac?
before today, I got lots of complex feedback [Elsewhere] about Android kernals and the like totally confused me,i must say.
Do we know if any other make of AMP/DAC works with Xperia z tablet? just a thought
best wishes Steve:good:
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norsk1 said:
Hi again
no mix up,I know the Wadia is yours I said your Wadia and fiio 17
sorry if am not being clear enough.
I am hoping to do exactly the same as I did with my laptops,and that is use external DAC/ AMP to bypass on board Dac of TABELT + better sound all around Hopefully.You say may ways to make it work? I would be most interested to hear of the best way to make it work if you have the time? I have reserched several well known amp dacs and have received mixed replies as to can they be used with Android TABLETS full stop not only Xperai z,? folk were telling me there dacs do not woirk with tablets or I need to perform open heart surgery on the Android kernal e.t.c.
Yes I wish to connect an external dac/Amp to the Xperia and be able to play my 24/96 files in quality audio
Please keep the good advcie coming
regards Steve:good:
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Maybe that is what you meant - it is not what was typed - Please see in bold above. - Also as far as your tablet is concerned - you need some type of interface between your tablet and the dac - try finding an old Logitech squeeze box - they are cheap (less than 50.00 used) and work very well.
lighten up !
Hi but why make a point about it?
your interpretation of what i wrote and meant ..but man it`s no big deal is it?
simple misunderstanding Your WADIA and the fiio not your WADIA & your fiio?
I am English and most folk would not bat an eyelid at what I wrote.
whats this about interfaces??don1t understand why you need a squeezbox,why can`t the dac/amp just link to the tablet? maybe others on the forum may have some additional information
Steve
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Maybe that is what you meant - it is not what was typed - Please see in bold above. - Also as far as your tablet is concerned - you need some type of interface between your tablet and the dac - try finding an old Logitech squeeze box - they are cheap (less than 50.00 used) and work very well.
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I think connecting a DAC to a smartphone/tablet for just listening to music is NOT a practical solution. Because who wants a tablet with cables dangling around? A tablet is for being carried freely around and connecting wirelessly.
So much better is to use the tablet just as a controller for a music playing device.
In this regard of course there are different solutions (Logitech media server / renderers, DLNA, MPD ...). I have a Raspberry Pi with Squeezelite and a USB soundcard that renders music of a Logitech media server on my NAS, for example.) The app "Squeeze Commander" on the tablet controls all that. Works flawlessly.
Only useful application for DAC directly on tablet is recording - using the tablet as mobile DAW.
hasenbein1966
Good of you to contribute to the thread,and of course you are quite entitled to your view.but remember folk, including some who have also contributed to this thread use DAC/AMPs withe xperia Tablet,and I suspect,but don`t know for sure, they also,as you say carry their tablets around freely,so they have the best of both worlds i think.
As far as a controller for music devices,well must admit to knowing very little about such things,and I can not comment.I must investigate all this area as you kindly outlined.
I have investigated this amp/dac qustion elsewhere and their does appear to be a significant minority getting involved in the Dac amp with tablet thing.and I am learning a little more each day.Speaking personally my new Xperia will rarely leave the house as I am confined much of the time..so for me cables and the like are not really a problem..and if the addition of a Dac/Amp to my tablet will give something like the improvements that I got from my laptop + dac/Amp set ups set up then I will be well pleased.
all the best Steve:good:
hasenbein1966 said:
I think connecting a DAC to a smartphone/tablet for just listening to music is NOT a practical solution. Because who wants a tablet with cables dangling around? A tablet is for being carried freely around and connecting wirelessly.
So much better is to use the tablet just as a controller for a music playing device.
In this regard of course there are different solutions (Logitech media server / renderers, DLNA, MPD ...). I have a Raspberry Pi with Squeezelite and a USB soundcard that renders music of a Logitech media server on my NAS, for example.) The app "Squeeze Commander" on the tablet controls all that. Works flawlessly.
Only useful application for DAC directly on tablet is recording - using the tablet as mobile DAW.
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I think standard USB DAC is compatible since I can use Tablet Z with my fiio E17 without problem.
Interesting reply?
Hello :good:Fishmanzero
Really good to hear from you,and i thank you for letting me know that the FIIO E17 works with Xperia z
I am reliably informed that FIIO is okay in general and other android supported DACs are in the pipeline from both FIIO and other makers?one slight problem which as being flagged up is a bit of a compatability issue with ANDROID 4.2? I think problems reported e.t.c.but things at least seem to be looking better for ANDROID in the long term.
Regards Steve:good:
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I think standard USB DAC is compatible since I can use Tablet Z with my fiio E17 without problem.
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Related
Hi!
This might sounds silly but do you guys know if anyone is working on something like this for android?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nod69aTzsM
An app that makes your phone to a small guitar amp?
The iphone version has been out for a while but i cant find any info on a version for android..
The company behind iRig have been speaking about a android version but i dont think they even have started working on one yet.
It would be a really nice application! To allways be ready to record without setting up the computor and stuff like that ya know, or to just sit in the sofa with earplugs and play some sweet solos and riffs without having your gf whine about the loud music..
Found this dude trying to make something close. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz-9mxWa2VA
Just checking if anyone knows anything?
Best regards and thx for all the awsomeness!
/Patrik
This would be awesome, I would definitely buy it. It's like a Line 6 pod but much cheaper.
I hope they're working on an android version. Android needs better quality apps.
Also, it's more of a multi-effect pedal than an amp. Just letting you know
I actually sent then a message on youtube to see if they were working on one. This is what I got.
This is the Mac/PC version. If you look at our AmpliTube iRig playlist you'll find the iPhone version. We're currently looking at the platform but do not have any versions for Android.
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Yeah, multi-effect pedal.
Imageing all the fine stuff you could do with it!
You could use it as an effect to plug in to your amp. (maby quite alot of effects, if you can make your own sounds. And with new developing you never have to buy a new effect-pedal again.. ).
A strummer for electric guitar in the studio/rehearsal place.
Play with earplugs on the sofa.
and so on...
I'll buy!!
it needs dedicated hardware don't forget (about 10 seconds in on the video)
your phone only has one 3.5mm jack plug...and you need to plug a guitar into it and an amp into it too.
also, what happens if you've got your amp turned up to 11 and then you get a phone call?
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what happens if you've got your amp turned up to 11 and then you get a phone call?
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You'd have to speak through your guitar peter frampton style
These are the components you need...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNFmDetXs7c
These are the components you need. I've successfully plugged my guitar into my nokia and HTC EVO using this method. Now, for some software that does something cool with the input. Let me know how it works for you.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=553
So maby around the end of the year?
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http://www.ikmultimedia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=553
So maby around the end of the year?
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I've bookmarked that link
I am amazed that this can be done on the iPhone but not on Android.
There is another program called Ghettoamp on the market, though the devloper admits that there is still latency (he records, then processes the sound input). 20ms I think.
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I've bookmarked that link
I am amazed that this can be done on the iPhone but not on Android.
There is another program called Ghettoamp on the market, though the devloper admits that there is still latency (he records, then processes the sound input). 20ms I think.
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Why can't it be done for android? This app is really cool.
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It should be possible...
Android phones definitely have the processing power to do this. The only real problem is you're input and outputs on your phone, there's really only one... the 3.5 mm jack...
But there's maybe a way around this. And I'm not an engineer or developer or genius of any kind I'm just saying what I think should be at least possible... Everyone knows AD2P Bluetooth right? You could get you're input through it.
You use the microphone of a bluetooth headset, but instead of the microphone, you get your input from you're amp/guitar/whatever... could it be as simple as soldering a headphone jack to the PCB connections on a bluetooth headset? Dunno but let's asume it's possible.
Then you connect your phone to the headset, and you've got input... Great.
The problem now is that I don't know what android does when it has a bluetooth headset AND a normal set of earphones... Does it play from both, does it by default choose, I don't know... Say you still get output from the headphones, you could easily get the output to any speakers, seems rather pointless to use the phone's loudspeaker... This part from bluetooth input to audio jack output will maybe need a modified audio driver or something...
Once you've got input into the phone and output out of the phone, you would like to have some effects and/or amplification right? That's the point isn't it? I know nothing about programming such things but maybe a few developers who do will stumble onto this thread and share their expertise...
Once again it should be possible, but for just anyone to do this it'll be very challenging, more likely and hopefully companies like Gibson or Marshall or Ibanez (their Japanese, and this seems like a Japanese thing to do) for instance will see the need for something like this, and get working on it... If they make something like that and it works well, it'll make a LOT of money... For instance after you've bought this device, they could SELL effects, to be downloaded on a sort of 'plugin-basis'. And once one company does it, all will have some variant of the concept. I know I'd buy this...
Edit: Read about the apparent latency issue that Android has... So I don't know if it's that possible just yet, maybe ICS has bettered this flaw in previous Android versions, one can only hope...
Sorry for refreshing this thread, but I'm curious if there is such app for android available right now?
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Android phones definitely have the processing power to do this. The only real problem is you're input and outputs on your phone, there's really only one... the 3.5 mm jack...
But there's maybe a way around this. And I'm not an engineer or developer or genius of any kind I'm just saying what I think should be at least possible... Everyone knows AD2P Bluetooth right? You could get you're input through it.
You use the microphone of a bluetooth headset, but instead of the microphone, you get your input from you're amp/guitar/whatever... could it be as simple as soldering a headphone jack to the PCB connections on a bluetooth headset? Dunno but let's asume it's possible.
Then you connect your phone to the headset, and you've got input... Great.
The problem now is that I don't know what android does when it has a bluetooth headset AND a normal set of earphones... Does it play from both, does it by default choose, I don't know... Say you still get output from the headphones, you could easily get the output to any speakers, seems rather pointless to use the phone's loudspeaker... This part from bluetooth input to audio jack output will maybe need a modified audio driver or something...
Once you've got input into the phone and output out of the phone, you would like to have some effects and/or amplification right? That's the point isn't it? I know nothing about programming such things but maybe a few developers who do will stumble onto this thread and share their expertise...
Once again it should be possible, but for just anyone to do this it'll be very challenging, more likely and hopefully companies like Gibson or Marshall or Ibanez (their Japanese, and this seems like a Japanese thing to do) for instance will see the need for something like this, and get working on it... If they make something like that and it works well, it'll make a LOT of money... For instance after you've bought this device, they could SELL effects, to be downloaded on a sort of 'plugin-basis'. And once one company does it, all will have some variant of the concept. I know I'd buy this...
Edit: Read about the apparent latency issue that Android has... So I don't know if it's that possible just yet, maybe ICS has bettered this flaw in previous Android versions, one can only hope...
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You are thinking much too complicated.
The headphone jack of phones contains another pin for the microphone. A small jumper cable can be used that allows the connection of a guitar and headphones. Check out Amplitube iRig for an example.
(this type of jack is used so you can plug in a headset with microphone)
Bluetooth or something would be nice... but the latency wouldn't be, and that is exactly the problem.. Android has too much latency,
Look:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3434
Android is not capable of this because the way it handles audio is completely wrong. More recent devices have less latency but still too much. The problem lies very deep. It is a problem for game developers too. Please star this issue if you want Google to do something about it!
Send with my telegraph
How about USB OTG connected to a Rocksmith USB connection?...
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The Irig will work fine for this you dont need bluetooth aor usb adding yet another layer of BS to the audio streams round trip. however now that JB is out latancy is stitting around 10-12ms on adevice such as the galaxy nexus wich is completely usable (1ms of latancy = 1foot from your amp) so 12ms would be like playing 12 feet from your amp,
If you cant play like this then on stage will never work for you.
As a side note usb audio is apparently supported in JB as well now
There are now a couple of apps on Android that at least have a range of guitar effects. Delay Effects Plus (via headphone type cable) and usbEffects (USB OTG) both have an option to use Native Audio, so if you have the Galaxy Nexus running JB the latency is quite reasonable (50-70 mSec). If you have a modded ROM you may get lower latency without Native Audio option as they both read the buffer size from the OS. Of course for everyone else the latency is still an issue and varies from device to device. So to those that said they would buy .... please do!
This very issue has put me on the fence on what kind of tablet I buy. Cannot decide between note, and Ipad 3. The accessories and ItunesU has been one of the biggest attractions for me.
Litlle heads up: in their latest newsletter IK Multimedia (of Amplitube) post a few job openings, one of them being "Android App Developer"!
So they are at least working on something..
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Do you got new update for futur multi effect on android
I can't believe my eyes but the specs page on Samsung's website says it has USB OTG!!!!!!!!!!! I can finally use my portable DAC with this beast!
Check under Connectivity
galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html
That's great news for us audiophiles; I actually just sold my UM3Xs to help find for new stiff (the galaxy2 mainly) . I don't really listen to music that much anymore though.
my Fiio E7 USB DAC is also happy for it!
I just need to find short USB mini to micro cable.
Sorry if this might be a n00b question, but I don't seem to be clear on the subject. Will this allow for me to attach a usb harddrive or usb-stick as add-on storage via a usb-micro-usb connector?
Thanks
Corell said:
Sorry if this might be a n00b question, but I don't seem to be clear on the subject. Will this allow for me to attach a usb harddrive or usb-stick as add-on storage via a usb-micro-usb connector?
Thanks
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Yes, it should work providing the microUSB port can provide enough power to drive your HDD (or if it comes with an adaptor).
I remember having USB OTG on one of my Cowon players and it made life so much simpler when I wanted to copy somebody's music over to my player, or pictures from a camera. Only question is, what kind of devices will Samsung give us support for (I guess once they give out the kernel sources this should become less of an issue).
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Yes, it should work providing the microUSB port can provide enough power to drive your HDD (or if it comes with an adaptor).
I remember having USB OTG on one of my Cowon players and it made life so much simpler when I wanted to copy somebody's music over to my player, or pictures from a camera. Only question is, what kind of devices will Samsung give us support for (I guess once they give out the kernel sources this should become less of an issue).
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Guess it will provide an easy way to add much more storage to the phone without having to swap multiple memory cards
^That never occured to me, I'm really excited now. Being able to hook up a hard drive or something to copy a movie or two over before a long trip is a plus.
Wait does it have a microusb or full one
Sorry I'm a noob
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It's micro. Being the world's thinnest smartphone, it doesn't really make sense to have a full USB port does it.
Virtue94 said:
It's micro. Being the world's thinnest smartphone, it doesn't really make sense to have a full USB port does it.
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SGS2 isn't the world's thinnest smartphone. I read an article on Engadget saying a recently released Japanese phone is.
Fine, I'll concede that. Let me rephrase: Being an extremely thin smartphone, it doesn't really make sense to have a full USB port does it.
bbm21 said:
Wait does it have a microusb or full one
Sorry I'm a noob
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It has a mmicro USB that doubles as an HDMI. Crazy stuff.
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horusray said:
SGS2 isn't the world's thinnest smartphone. I read an article on Engadget saying a recently released Japanese phone is.
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Yea, there's this 2.2 Android phone coming out that is a couple of tenths of a mm thimbleful; however, there are things called set points which are the minimum points where we can discern differences. I think 8 mm give or take a tenth reaches that.
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will this also allow for usb Kb or mouse ?
Possibly, but the phone should already support BT keyboard and mouse anyways, which is much more convenient.
Yes it has
Can I say something to help?
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What DAC does the Atrix have?
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^^^ Hoping someone knows!
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Might want to clarify what the acronym stands for. I have no idea what a DAC is.
That's why I don't like to post technical things in the general section. Yet I know I'll get blasted if I post in developement. DAC stands for Digital-Analogue-Converter.
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amwbt said:
That's why I don't like to post technical things in the general section. Yet I know I'll get blasted if I post in developement. DAC stands for Digital-Analogue-Converter.
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+1 for posting in the correct section though. Developers DO read the general and q&a sections of forums. Just not as often as ppl want them to - so they post in Development to get an answer faster... which is not the right way to go about things.
to put it in layman's term, what audio chip does the Atrix have
I'm curious this too, hoping for an answer
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I don't know but it's clearly sub-par, as audited by audio-gd compass and D2000 ... And you can't change it so it kind of irrelevant.
Mayby also someone know is it possible to have direct digital stream from Atrix (bypassing DAC)?
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Mayby also someone know is it possible to have direct digital stream from Atrix (bypassing DAC)?
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With HDMI out, obviously, but I was also hoping for digital out over usb, like in the car's usb port. I doubt these car controllers know what to do with that connection, unless you can put it into mass storage mode and treat it like a flash drive.
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It may be irrelevant to you, not to me.
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portalplayer
[email protected] said:
Mayby also someone know is it possible to have direct digital stream from Atrix (bypassing DAC)?
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Doesn't audio output over Bluetooth bypass the DAC?
GoodFoot said:
Doesn't audio output over Bluetooth bypass the DAC?
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I even didin't think about this... can someone confirm/deny? I'm not much into BT standard.
BUT I'd like have digital audio stream on cable connection - preferably USB pins - to connect this to external DAC (sth like OSNPA said)
justdrew said:
portalplayer
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So I traced this out, seems like it has been dead in the water since nVidia bought portalplayer in 2007. Kicking around on the rockbox wiki, I found this android port:
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort
I read through forums, searched, and looks like an apk for qHD needs to be developed yet. Would like to be wrong. Anyone have info on this?
I hate to dig up an old thread, but this is kinda what I was hoping for. I'm in the process of building a "portable" device that would have a Digital port interface, feeding professional DAC and HiFi headphone amplifier. Never actually tried to connect a phone to a receiver with HDMI connector, but it should work, bypassing phone's DAC and feeding digital PCM signal to external device.
As far as BlueTooth connection goes (for the last poster), then if you are looking for good quality, looks somewhere else. Bluetooth compresses the sound on the fly before sending it to the paired device. For some it might be unnoticable, but to me it is unbearable.
According to http://www.head-fi.org/t/549644/motorola-atrix-sound-quality, it is a Wolfson 8903 L. From what I have read, everything points to the Atrix and the Tegra 2 using a Wolfson DAC. Don't forget that the amp and preamp are just as important to sound quality. Supposedly, ICS may support USB DACs.
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According to http://www.head-fi.org/t/549644/motorola-atrix-sound-quality, it is a Wolfson 8903 L. From what I have read, everything points to the Atrix and the Tegra 2 using a Wolfson DAC. Don't forget that the amp and preamp are just as important to sound quality. Supposedly, ICS may support USB DACs.
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Wrong,
Just contacted ('PCWAR'), he said he is unsure, he saw such info on xda forums.
WM8903L is made for Harmony Tegra 2, or tablet Tegra 2.
All Tegra 2 Ventanna uses WM8994 DAC
Yay, we've got the highest end DAC, par with the S3 and Note 2 except bit higher stereo crosstalk.
Hello everyone;
I am very new to the forum.
The reason I joined the [xda] is I need help with a few Xperia z Tablet questions?
I have alot of High Quality Music Files 24/96 and i am in the process of buying the Xperia after reading such great feedback on it.I was for a long time planning on buying one of the ASUS Transformers.
I would like to ask if anyone knows if it is possible to add an external DAC/AMP to the Xperia? I tried to get an answer on this both from SONY and other forums but no replies from SONY? and confused replies on forums? something about having to alter the ANDROID colnel?? it is not totally nessercary to add an amp/dac but could improve sound quality both to speakers and H/phones
Finally I have to thank the person who linked the superb PDAIR Leather Xperia Case as I think this will be my choice for the Tablet;
Regards Steve
MOD EDIT : There is no need to use so big letters.We wear our glasses
Bluetooth
I'm Norwegian too but I'l write in english in case som outsiders come looking.
I have never heard of AMP for Android devices, but I know what I am going to buy for it,
http://www.elkjop.no/product/tv-lyd-og-bilde/streaming-og-mediaspiller/SBTREC11E/sandstrom-bluetooth-receiver-sbtrec11e
It has a build in amplifier for 16 and 32 ohm speakers. I got a headset with 32 ohm right now, and with this it will still be waterproof while listening to music
With keyboard I don't know, I don't think there are any specific for this device, I would just choose the best looking one.
colonel? I think you meant kernel.. I dont think you require to change kernel for that. Btw I had hots for transformer too if TF700KL came with 2 gigs I'd have bought it in a heartbeat but it didnt so I bought Z instead.
DAC/AMPs?
Hello
Am i the only one who is experiencing problems listing posts/threads?
Hope I can post this one,
many thanks for you reply, much appreciated, likewise from perern in Norway
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colonel? I think you meant kernel.. I dont think you require to change kernel for that. Btw I had hots for transformer too if TF700KL came with 2 gigs I'd have bought it in a heartbeat but it didnt so I bought Z instead.
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I am gald their is no messing about with Android Kernelssorry about the spelling!
I have tried to get some feedback elsewhere also on Tablets +dac/Amps? but nothing concrete as yet
all the best Steve:good:
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Sooo, i bought the small but powerful K1 yesterday but I couldn't figure out how the K1 will work with my Nexus 6. I've connected it via OTG and it got recognised but yeah no sound came out of it :crying:. So I connected a passive USB Hub to the OTG cable. I can't say why but connected to the hub the K1 worked fine.
This isn't a great solution for me, has someone got the K1 working without a USB hub? Which USB DAC's are working for you?
the FiiO Q1 works with N6 like charm. I got the K1 and it's not working as well (not enough power to drive the amp I guess)
mflow said:
the FiiO Q1 works with N6 like charm. I got the K1 and it's not working as well (not enough power to drive the amp I guess)
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Thinking about getting the Q1. Would you recommend it to me? I have never even used a DAC before but I'm starting to become a bit of an audiophile after discovering ViPER...
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Thinking about getting the Q1. Would you recommend it to me? I have never even used a DAC before but I'm starting to become a bit of an audiophile after discovering ViPER...
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on that price point? yeah, absolutely!
but here's the thing. Audio is not just about the DAC-AMP and then you got that sound you always wanted. Q1 is bit warm and smooth (K1 as well) and it's a perfect match for vocals and instruments (and maybe some other genre).
and there's the IEM/Headphone/Earphone factor again..
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on that price point? yeah, absolutely!
but here's the thing. Audio is not just about the DAC-AMP and then you got that sound you always wanted. Q1 is bit warm and smooth (K1 as well) and it's a perfect match for vocals and instruments (and maybe some other genre).
and there's the IEM/Headphone/Earphone factor again..
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Yea, also looking to pick up a pair of Sennheiser CX300 II soon. I take it Skullcandy is not a very "audiophile" brand Also, I'm running the stock ViPERAtmos package which, in my noob opinion, is pushing some pretty good sound when I have ViPER Clarity and the Dolby Atmos active equalizer going.
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Yea, also looking to pick up a pair of Sennheiser CX300 II soon. I take it Skullcandy is not a very "audiophile" brand Also, I'm running the stock ViPERAtmos package which, in my noob opinion, is pushing some pretty good sound when I have ViPER Clarity and the Dolby Atmos active equalizer going.
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CX300 ii 's a good pick for bass! I had the chance to try one few years back and it was "good".
I'm no "Viper" kind of guy or those kind of "sound enhancement" but if you enjoy having enhancements, why not
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CX300 ii 's a good pick for bass! I had the chance to try one few years back and it was "good".
I'm no "Viper" kind of guy or those kind of "sound enhancement" but if you enjoy having enhancements, why not
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What would you personally recommend me considering that my total upgrade budget is around $150? I was thinking $150 would get me the Fiio and the Sennheisers but you sound like you know what you're talking about, so I would love to get your opinion on how I should upgrade!
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Also, I stream from Spotify. Thought you should know that.
The TEAC-HA-p50 works very well.
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What would you personally recommend me considering that my total upgrade budget is around $150? I was thinking $150 would get me the Fiio and the Sennheisers but you sound like you know what you're talking about, so I would love to get your opinion on how I should upgrade!
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Also, I stream from Spotify. Thought you should know that.
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My recommendation would be..
I am not sure about how much this will cost you but i got this for $30 : http://sea.audio-technica.com/products/headphones/lifestyle/all-earphones/ath-ck330is . It is a fun, all arounder IEM and great for the budget.
for the DAC.. I think the K1 would be enough if you're listening from a laptop. But if you don't really mind carrying extra DAC-AMP for portable uses, the Q1 will serve you well.
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but hey, if you do have access to local headphone store, go on and try what they have in offer(audition, as i love to call it). Who knows that you will find better deal there right?
mflow said:
My recommendation would be..
I am not sure about how much this will cost you but i got this for $30 : http://sea.audio-technica.com/products/headphones/lifestyle/all-earphones/ath-ck330is . It is a fun, all arounder IEM and great for the budget.
for the DAC.. I think the K1 would be enough if you're listening from a laptop. But if you don't really mind carrying extra DAC-AMP for portable uses, the Q1 will serve you well.
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but hey, if you do have access to local headphone store, go on and try what they have in offer(audition, as i love to call it). Who knows that you will find better deal there right?
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I have a Best Buy near me but it seems like they only sell name brands rather than HiFi brands.
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I have a Best Buy near me but it seems like they only sell name brands rather than HiFi brands.
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I guess you'll need to visit this one then! http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-introduction
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I guess you'll need to visit this one then! http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-introduction
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Thank you so much for that link!
FiiO E10K also works like a charm. I supose E18 must work too, because it's battery powered.
I have an AudioQuest Dragon Fly that works great. I also use USB Player Pro to play hi-fi flac files from place like HDTracks.
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FiiO E10K also works like a charm. I supose E18 must work too, because it's battery powered.
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Strangest thing is that E10K works well with N6, while the even smaller K1 does not. My E17 (not 17K) used to be working very well too!
cmh714 said:
I have an AudioQuest Dragon Fly that works great. I also use USB Player Pro to play hi-fi flac files from place like HDTracks.
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AQ Dragonfly is nice! but it's bit expensive
Schiit Modi 2 / Magni 2 Uber work as well.
mflow said:
Strangest thing is that E10K works well with N6, while the even smaller K1 does not. My E17 (not 17K) used to be working very well too!
AQ Dragonfly is nice! but it's bit expensive
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Is the K1 working on any phones? I think it is a driver/kerner problem, not a power supply one...
matthew2926 said:
I have a Best Buy near me but it seems like they only sell name brands rather than HiFi brands.
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Before you go buy a dac or amp you might want to do some research from head fi.
The dac on the nexus is aight but it pushes little power for a portable device.
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I returned mine..didn't make that much of an improvement.
USB HUB
Pfostenwischer said:
Sooo, i bought the small but powerful K1 yesterday but I couldn't figure out how the K1 will work with my Nexus 6. I've connected it via OTG and it got recognised but yeah no sound came out of it :crying:. So I connected a passive USB Hub to the OTG cable. I can't say why but connected to the hub the K1 worked fine.
This isn't a great solution for me, has someone got the K1 working without a USB hub? Which USB DAC's are working for you?
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Did you use a direct micro USB hub or a normal USB hub connected via a micro USB to USB cable? Also is the USB hub USB 2.0 or 3.0?