I was wondering if it will ever be possible to convert a standard S4 to a Google Edition S4. Basically taking the software, firmware, drivers from the Google S4 and flashing them to the TouchWiz S4. My understanding is that these devices are identical in hardware which could possibly enable an unlockable bootloader on the TouchWiz S4 by flashing the Google Edition S4 bootloader.
I am aware that is is not as simple as flashing the bootloader, as the bootloader is locked, my question is whether it is possible or not and if there would be any advantages from doing so.
An unlockable bootloader was something I had grown to appreciate with my Galaxy Nexus and would love to see the same for the S4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355 Got you covered
YoshiFan501 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355 Got you covered
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Thanks. I've taken a look at that before and actually flashed it. What I meant was at more of a 'deeper' level per se.
I get the impression that no benefits would come from porting over the bootloader and other aspects from that device since I would get essentially the same device by running that ROM.
Do you have any experience running that build? Also does anyone have a package that would allow the use of the TouchWiz camera app on AOSP ROMs?
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Thanks. I've taken a look at that before and actually flashed it. What I meant was at more of a 'deeper' level per se.
I get the impression that no benefits would come from porting over the bootloader and other aspects from that device since I would get essentially the same device by running that ROM.
Do you have any experience running that build? Also does anyone have a package that would allow the use of the TouchWiz camera app on AOSP ROMs?
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What benefits? It's an unlocked bootloader, you really need that? We'll get one eventually and loki takes care of that now.
I ran it. If you want an AOSP-like rom that's fully stable, use it.
And the rom isn't pure AOSP. It's still TouchWiz based, just not themed. So you can download the missing apk package that CleanRom has available for download and move the camera into system/app/.
The only things you'll be missing are the smart scroll etc, that you cannot port over.
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I had access to a Nexus Q, during the time i was using it, i flashed gapps on the Q's stock rom. My question is if i flashed gapps on the LG L9 (LP769) would gapps install properly? Is there a possibility of bricking my device (which i wouldn't mind because i have a backup)? Although the Nexus Q's bootloader was unlocked, I'm sure that would't have changed the outcome. The only thing that's truly bothering me is since the Q is a Nexus, and since gapps seems to be heavily based of of vanilla android, wouldn't that mean flashing gapps on the L9 more prone to failing? I wouldn't mind being the first to try, but i would like your suggestions. My phone's bootloader is locked but the apps are deodexed.
My phone is dead and I'm not going to be home for about an hour and a half, if not i would try it.
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I had access to a Nexus Q, during the time i was using it, i flashed gapps on the Q's stock rom. My question is if i flashed gapps on the LG L9 (LP769) would gapps install properly? Is there a possibility of bricking my device (which i wouldn't mind because i have a backup)? Although the Nexus Q's bootloader was unlocked, I'm sure that would't have changed the outcome. The only thing that's truly bothering me is since the Q is a Nexus, and since gapps seems to be heavily based of of vanilla android, wouldn't that mean flashing gapps on the L9 more prone to failing? I wouldn't mind being the first to try, but i would like your suggestions. My phone's bootloader is locked but the apps are deodexed.
My phone is dead and I'm not going to be home for about an hour and a half, if not i would try it.
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I don't understand... lol the Nexus Q doesn't run android or have a GUI it's a plastic ball with a fancy light! Why would you want to install another devices gapps anyways when you can find most of them in the play store. Again what nexus q are you referencing, Google's absolute flop media device?
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I don't understand... lol the Nexus Q doesn't run android or have a GUI it's a plastic ball with a fancy light! Why would you want to install another devices gapps anyways when you can find most of them in the play store. Again what nexus q are you referencing, Google's absolute flop media device?
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Yes, and it did have a gui once you installed a launcher, and it does run android. Second i tried it and it worked, just wanted to be safe. Third, gapps isn't meant for any specific device, gapps are supposed to be installed according to your android version. Yes, i was referencing "Google's absolute flop media device."
I know I probably haven't searched hard enough, but if I were to buy my wife a new GS4 for the holidays. Would it be rootable and would I be able to install CM on it.
I know with each update verizon puts out there are new obstacles to over come, just haven't been paying attention recently.
Thanks in advance, and sorry if the post is repetitive
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I know I probably haven't searched hard enough, but if I were to buy my wife a new GS4 for the holidays. Would it be rootable and would I be able to install CM on it.
I know with each update verizon puts out there are new obstacles to over come, just haven't been paying attention recently.
Thanks in advance, and sorry if the post is repetitive
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You should be able to root assuming there isn't a new update out by then that blocks roots (it should be achievable afterwards eventually though). There are no custom recoveries nor any in sight currently so you would not be able to install CM. The Safestrap method that works on 4.2.2 also doesn't work with AOSP based roms (which CM is).
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You should be able to root assuming there isn't a new update out by then that blocks roots (it should be achievable afterwards eventually though). There are no custom recoveries nor any in sight currently so you would not be able to install CM. The Safestrap method that works on 4.2.2 also doesn't work with AOSP based roms (which CM is).
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So would be able to achieve root, but would only be able to install custom roms based on TouchWiz?
Is the recovery issue due to the boot loader not being able to be unlocked? Just curious.
The newest firmware can't get a recovery at all, the couple versions before it can use the safestrap method to get touchwiz roms. Yes it's due to the bootloader.
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The newest firmware can't get a recovery at all, the couple versions before it can use the safestrap method to get touchwiz roms. Yes it's due to the bootloader.
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Last question, and thanks for responding so readily.
I have had my wife on CM since Gingerbread, would the best CM option be (while not being an expensive dev phone) be a HTC One then?
(will try to find a CM specific forum next)
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Last question, and thanks for responding so readily.
I have had my wife on CM since Gingerbread, would the best CM option be (while not being an expensive dev phone) be a HTC One then?
(will try to find a CM specific forum next)
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I believe the One does have s-off now, which is an htc thing for having an unlocked bootloader. I'm not sure though you'll have to check their forum.
As far as other flagships on Verizon, the Note 3 & Moto X can't get CM yet, but I think the LG G2 can. Not sure about the Droid series.
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Hey all! I am a newbie, but am technically inclined.
Both my bf and I have the HTC Rezound with the latest OEM firmware. We are sick of Sense, the battery life is horrible amongst other complaints.
We would like to move to an aftermarket firmware but I have noticed that most if not all of them have issues. The camera, the camcorder, the MMS, the WiFi...I don't want to drop my OEM firmware for something that doesn't fully work.
We also have the Nexus 7 (2012) Wifi tablets which we LOVE. It's pure KitKat 4.4! If only we could have stock Android on our phones.
Anyhow...I don't even know where to start with our phones and then of course, which software to install that is fully functional?
Thanks for the help ya'll!
K
peakcomp said:
Hey all! I am a newbie, but am technically inclined.
Both my bf and I have the HTC Rezound with the latest OEM firmware. We are sick of Sense, the battery life is horrible amongst other complaints.
We would like to move to an aftermarket firmware but I have noticed that most if not all of them have issues. The camera, the camcorder, the MMS, the WiFi...I don't want to drop my OEM firmware for something that doesn't fully work.
We also have the Nexus 7 (2012) Wifi tablets which we LOVE. It's pure KitKat 4.4! If only we could have stock Android on our phones.
Anyhow...I don't even know where to start with our phones and then of course, which software to install that is fully functional?
Thanks for the help ya'll!
K
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I can recommend some ROMs that are both faster than stock and totally stable. So you want to unlock your bootloader and all?
Whatever it takes, I guess, to get a newer, faster and more battery conservative ROM . This Sense crap sucks!
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I can recommend some ROMs that are both faster than stock and totally stable. So you want to unlock your bootloader and all?
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How far are you into the rooting method? Have you done anything to start yet. By the way, welcome to the wonderful Rezound community!!!!
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Thanks!
I don't know where to start. I haven't began anything except researching.
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pball52998 said:
How far are you into the rooting method? Have you done anything to start yet. By the way, welcome to the wonderful Rezound community!!!!
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Thanks!
I don't know where to start. I haven't began anything except researching.
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Okay, first begin with unlocking the bootloader via HTC dev. Here's the website, you need to set up and use a legit email you can get into to. It will send you a unlock token once you get done with the steps. : http://http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
This will erase everything on the phone, but this will allow you to continue, you are on the newest radio's and updates correct?
I am on the latest update. Not sure about radios though. I assume they all come with the update from the carrier/OEM.
Why does unlocking the boot loader delete all on the phone?
Should I back up and remove my SD card before doing this?
K
pball52998 said:
Okay, first begin with unlocking the bootloader via HTC dev. Here's the website, you need to set up and use a legit email you can get into to. It will send you a unlock token once you get done with the steps. : http://http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
This will erase everything on the phone, but this will allow you to continue, you are on the newest radio's and updates correct?
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I am on the latest update. Not sure about radios though. I assume they all come with the update from the carrier/OEM.
Why does unlocking the boot loader delete all on the phone?
Should I back up and remove my SD card before doing this?
K
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Yes that means you're on the newest radio's. Not really sure why it deletes everything but it just does, and yes, back everything up, back your contacts up via google :$ back up SD card, shouldn't delete it, or it didn't mine, but just back everything up before beginning. Okay?
Super. Thanks.
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Yes that means you're on the newest radio's. Not really sure why it deletes everything but it just does, and yes, back everything up, back your contacts up via google :$ back up SD card, shouldn't delete it, or it didn't mine, but just back everything up before beginning. Okay?
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Also you need adb and fastboot set up, heres a little tool I used for the windows partition of my mac: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Then I never really had to use device drivers, so I'm somewhat unsure of that Search up HTC rezound drivers into google and see if you can find something I just use my mac because it doesn't need drivers and it's easy for stuff like that.... windows 7 is the way to go though, or is pretty much the only way to go....
Okay...what is adb and fastboot and what are they used for?
Also, before I begin any of this process..what is the rom that you are recommending to install and why?
Thanks in advance,
K
pball52998 said:
Also you need adb and fastboot set up, heres a little tool I used for the windows partition of my mac: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
Then I never really had to use device drivers, so I'm somewhat unsure of that Search up HTC rezound drivers into google and see if you can find something I just use my mac because it doesn't need drivers and it's easy for stuff like that.... windows 7 is the way to go though, or is pretty much the only way to go....
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Okay...what is adb and fastboot and what are they used for?
Also, before I begin any of this process..what is the rom that you are recommending to install and why?
Thanks in advance,
K
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ADB and Fastboot are used in pushing things to the device. Like after the bootloader is unlocked and you want to install a custom recovery, (custom recovery is where you erase and install ROM's. I am using Cyanogenmod 11. Actually I go between 4 different ROMs... Liquid smooth is a good ROM, I love Cyanogenmod 11. It's 4.4.2 its smooth, fast, camera works, I've heard video camera is a little wonky. I don't use the video camera. Everolv is a great ROM, snuzzo's plain andy I've heard is a great ROM. But I love Cyanogenmo, I love 4.4.2 but the choice of ROM's is up to the user. But I would suggest, everolv, Cyanogenmod, or Plain andy. Me I love my cyanogenmod. Very stable. Very smooth, Lots of options.
CM would be my choice! 4.4 huh? Why do all the builds seem to have troubles with the camera or video camera?
What else doesn't work on CM ?
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ADB and Fastboot are used in pushing things to the device. Like after the bootloader is unlocked and you want to install a custom recovery, (custom recovery is where you erase and install ROM's. I am using Cyanogenmod 11. Actually I go between 4 different ROMs... Liquid smooth is a good ROM, I love Cyanogenmod 11. It's 4.4.2 its smooth, fast, camera works, I've heard video camera is a little wonky. I don't use the video camera. Everolv is a great ROM, snuzzo's plain andy I've heard is a great ROM. But I love Cyanogenmo, I love 4.4.2 but the choice of ROM's is up to the user. But I would suggest, everolv, Cyanogenmod, or Plain andy. Me I love my cyanogenmod. Very stable. Very smooth, Lots of options.
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Also, welcome to the forums, peakcomp! Very sorry pball!
When you finish the unlock bootloader process, I would recommend THIS ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106666
VERY stable and it flies!
Yes CyanogenMod 11 is kitkat 4.4.2 well WiFi works, 4Glte works, when in 3G though the phone goes to roaming. :/ but WiFi tethering works. Confirmed camera works in that screenshot. Home screen is there, very smooth scrolling. But have you taken a go at unlocking yet?
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Also the Rezound is a PAIN to work with..... Kernels are very hard to work with.... From the words of snuzzo. "You don't even know....."
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So, there is problems with 3g too? Not sounding too promising at this point.
I haven't done anything yet because I want to make an informed decision before wiping my device. When I hear something doesn't work I ask my self why would I go from a fully functional OEM ROM to something that is not fully functional?
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Yes CyanogenMod 11 is kitkat 4.4.2 well WiFi works, 4Glte works, when in 3G though the phone goes to roaming. :/ but WiFi tethering works. Confirmed camera works in that screenshot. Home screen is there, very smooth scrolling. But have you taken a go at unlocking yet?
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That's the only thing I have problems with on this ROM... Its very stable.... As are most other ROMs. If you don't like CM, everolv is a great ROM. I've talked go some people. They've said its a great ROM... Kind of a personal choice... From going from a fully functional stock, well, increased battery life (I've found) new features. Cool features. Etc)
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Hmm...thanks for all your input. At this point, I think I am going to just deal with my OEM ROM. This just sounds too involved for me.
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That's the only thing I have problems with on this ROM... Its very stable.... As are most other ROMs. If you don't like CM, everolv is a great ROM. I've talked go some people. They've said its a great ROM... Kind of a personal choice... From going from a fully functional stock, well, increased battery life (I've found) new features. Cool features. Etc)
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Okay... Well if you ever have a question or want to root/install a custom ROM.... Just pm me.. Or some others will be willing to help....
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I just purchased an Xperia Z4 Tablet and have been researching the different options when rooting. It seems like the AndroPlusKernel is the most popular choice but I'm not entirely sure why. From what I can tell, that will allow me to use the stock ROM and as such it may be the most issue free?
Another popular option appears to be the CyanogenMod 13. I know that the kernel and ROM are different and I can choose either or both. But after reading through quite a number of posts, I'm not sure what this custom ROM offers that I can't get by just doing AndroPlus followed by some cleanup of unwanted bloat. And would anyone actually want to use both?
Can anybody else provide some insight and direction? I'm not looking to do anything crazy extravagant here, just root access to allow for ad-blocking as well as some additional functions I don't get with stock.
Thanks for helping me learn!
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I just purchased an Xperia Z4 Tablet
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Congrats and welcome to the club
From what I can tell, that will allow me to use the stock ROM and as such it may be the most issue free?
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Exactly. AndroPlusKernel is the only custom kernel available for the stock ROM. The stock ROM is the only thing available that runs totally fine. CyanogenMod and derivatives have only just popped up and are still having issues. Even if there were no issues left, I have learnt throughout the years on different Android systems that (rooted) stock will probably run smoother and better battery-wise.
Another popular option appears to be the CyanogenMod 13. I know that the kernel and ROM are different and I can choose either or both. But after reading through quite a number of posts, I'm not sure what this custom ROM offers that I can't get by just doing AndroPlus followed by some cleanup of unwanted bloat. And would anyone actually want to use both?!
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With Xposed you can add a lot of functionality that years ago you had to flash a custom ROM for. I don't miss anything in stock+root+xposed that I remember from the old days using AOSP-variants on my previous Android devices.
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Congrats and welcome to the club
Exactly. AndroPlusKernel is the only custom kernel available for the stock ROM. The stock ROM is the only thing available that runs totally fine. CyanogenMod and derivatives have only just popped up and are still having issues. Even if there were no issues left, I have learnt throughout the years on different Android systems that (rooted) stock will probably run smoother and better battery-wise.
With Xposed you can add a lot of functionality that years ago you had to flash a custom ROM for. I don't miss anything in stock+root+xposed that I remember from the old days using AOSP-variants on my previous Android devices.
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Sweet.... and thank you! You answered my question with everything I needed to know. I'll add xposed if I feel I need something extra, but for now, I'm going for the AndroPlusKernel. Time to go hunt for the instructions on doing this!
***Edit*** I think I found what I'm looking for here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z4-tablet/development/kernel-andropluskernel-v1-t3170689.
However, it shows the latest version is .34. But when I go to the download links, the latest I see is .31. Anybody else have this issue?
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Exactly. AndroPlusKernel is the only custom kernel available for the stock ROM. The stock ROM is the only thing available that runs totally fine. CyanogenMod and derivatives have only just popped up and are still having issues. Even if there were no issues left, I have learnt throughout the years on different Android systems that (rooted) stock will probably run smoother and better battery-wise.
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Actually, stock ROM is supposed to be used with no root and tweeks. For example, YouTube background module for YouTube works with the bug, it just stops to play videos after a while. Only reboot helps to fix it. And according to stability, Resurrection remix is the same stable as stock ROM. Moreover, custom ROM is much easy and faster to upgrade. No flash tool needed, with loss of data.
Battery life with custom ROM is good.