Can we put S3 S-voice on S4? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

I have a weird question. I now have a Verizon S4, ME7 baseband, rooted. I used to have a S3. I use s-voice via Bluetooth dialing for voice dialing and texting all the time. It worked flawlessly on my S3 but sucks on the S4. It won't find some contacts, despite reading the names back to me perfectly while telling me it didn't find them.
I remember trying the S4 apk on the S3 when the S4 apk was released and finding it didn't work well for me. I reverted back to the stock S3 s voice.
My question now is, can I do the reverse? Can I put the S3 S-voice on the S4? Does anyone have the latest S3 s-voice apk? I don't have the S3 anymore (nor would I know how to get the apk off if I did).
Thanks
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I use apps from the s3 and note 2 all the time, most work and for those that don't I use apktool to mod them to work. In the case of s voice I imagine the app will natively work and it sounds like samsung tts doesn't have much to do with your issue. Im not at home to test or post it but you could always download a stock gs3 rom and extract s voice from it to try.
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Surge1223 said:
..... Im not at home to test or post it but you could always download a stock gs3 rom and extract s voice from it to try.
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Thank you. Excuse me for my ignorance: how do I extract an apk from a ROM? Is there a reference for me to follow or is it simple enough for you to post instructions? I've installed ROM's in the past but never actually worked on them.
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albertdc said:
Thank you. Excuse me for my ignorance: how do I extract an apk from a ROM? Is there a reference for me to follow or is it simple enough for you to post instructions? I've installed ROM's in the past but never actually worked on them.
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Extract the zip, then system apps are located in system/app then copy svoice from there. Hope this helps.
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Surge1223 said:
Extract the zip, then system apps are located in system/app then copy svoice from there. Hope this helps.
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Sounds simple enough. I will try it this weekend. Thank you!

albertdc said:
Sounds simple enough. I will try it this weekend. Thank you!
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something very important,dont forget to make a nandroid backup before,just in case.

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something very important,dont forget to make a nandroid backup before,just in case.
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Good point, that reminds me, in order to install s voice you will have to push the app to system and change the permissions. Hey OP if you don't know how to do this let me know, id make you a zip but I believe you're on me7 correct?
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android-incredible said:
something very important,dont forget to make a nandroid backup before,just in case.
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Yes, thank you for the reminder. I planned on that, but always
nice to have the reminder.
Surge1223 said:
Good point, that reminds me, in order to install s voice you will have to push the app to system and change the permissions. Hey OP if you don't know how to do this let me know, id make you a zip but I believe you're on me7 correct?
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Omph, thanks for detailing the need to change the permissions. I always read about people doing that, but have never done it. A zip would be awesome, but yes, I'm on me7 - does that mean you can't make one? If nobody else makes the zip, I'll read up on changing permissions.
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albertdc said:
Yes, thank you for the reminder. I planned on that, but always
nice to have the reminder.
Omph, thanks for detailing the need to change the permissions. I always read about people doing that, but have never done it. A zip would be awesome, but yes, I'm on me7 - does that mean you can't make one? If nobody else makes the zip, I'll read up on changing permissions.
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Unfortunately since your on me7 I cant make you a zip also you won't be able to make a nandroid back up either. This is because me7 doesn't allow you to have a custom recovery. Changing the permissions is pretty straight forward though, just make it match the other apps in the system/app folder, you'll also have to mount the system folder r/w.
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Surge1223 said:
Unfortunately since your on me7 I cant make you a zip also you won't be able to make a nandroid back up either. This is because me7 doesn't allow you to have a custom recovery. Changing the permissions is pretty straight forward though, just make it match the other apps in the system/app folder, you'll also have to mount the system folder r/w.
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Thanks for all your help. I extracted the file - called "Voicetalk" as far as I can tell. I pasted it into the system app folder using Root Explorer, changed the permissions, and nothing happened. I then realized that maybe I need to actually run the installer - tapping the file (which did indeed have the S3 S-Voice icon) gave me the option to install. I ran the installer, it showed the permissions, and then it failed to install with the only message showing: "Application not installed".
I deleted the app from the system folder.
I then tried again by first freezing the native S-Voice app. I tried installing the apk directly from the SD card and had the same result - not installed.
So, unless I am doing it incorrectly, I think the S3 S-voice will not install directly onto the S4. Any ideas as to a way to make it work?
Thanks

albertdc said:
Thanks for all your help. I extracted the file - called "Voicetalk" as far as I can tell. I pasted it into the system app folder using Root Explorer, changed the permissions, and nothing happened. I then realized that maybe I need to actually run the installer - tapping the file (which did indeed have the S3 S-Voice icon) gave me the option to install. I ran the installer, it showed the permissions, and then it failed to install with the only message showing: "Application not installed".
I deleted the app from the system folder.
I then tried again by first freezing the native S-Voice app. I tried installing the apk directly from the SD card and had the same result - not installed.
So, unless I am doing it incorrectly, I think the S3 S-voice will not install directly onto the S4. Any ideas as to a way to make it work?
Thanks
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What you originally did was fine, just rename the original s-voice .apk to .bak then do what you originally did (move the s3 s-voice .apk to /system/app then change permissions) then reboot your phone. Also you can check to make sure the owner is root for both owner and group. I think it might have worked had you just rebooted. Alternativley you can just copy and paste the apk to your internal sd then use rom toolbox and go to app manager, tap the upper left corner (where it shows a little rubix cube android person) then go down to + APK Installer and select the s-voice apk that you copied to your internal sd card. Afterward check in app manager and make sure s-voice is a system app, if not convert it to a system app. Remeber to reboot your phone after it installs. If all else fails send me the .apk and ill figure it out and/or mod it to work.

You ROCK!!
Thank you very much for your help. The key was this line you wrote: "just rename the original s-voice .apk to .bak " I had not done that and the S3 version would not install. Once I renamed the original s-voice, I was able to install the S3 version. Rebooted, and voila. Now it recognizes, without a hitch, the names that the S4 version was unable to find. So now I'm in business!

albertdc said:
You ROCK!!
Thank you very much for your help. The key was this line you wrote: "just rename the original s-voice .apk to .bak " I had not done that and the S3 version would not install. Once I renamed the original s-voice, I was able to install the S3 version. Rebooted, and voila. Now it recognizes, without a hitch, the names that the S4 version was unable to find. So now I'm in business!
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Anytime, glad I could help.
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have a heart, help me

Guys i need help.my little brother was playing with my phone and he somehow deleted the contact and phone apk. I checked on settings>applications>all to see if they were still there but they're not. I would really appreciate if someone can upload the stock ics dxlp7 phone and contact apk. I can't make a call or check contacts since it's gone.or if you could tell me how i can restore them
Have you tried downloading the rom and flashing it over?
Why don't you extract them from the system/app from the "yourromsname".zip and use root explorer and place them in system/app fix the permissions to match the others and reboot
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NORCALkID said:
Why don't you extract them from the system/app from the "yourromsname".zip and use root explorer and place them in system/app fix the permissions to match the others and reboot
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I'm not rooted. I'm on stock dxlp7
Is a factory reset not an option for you?
ctomgee said:
Is a factory reset not an option for you?
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But that would wipe my phone? I'd rather not do it unless it's the ONLY option
abbadipod said:
But that would wipe my phone? I'd rather not do it unless it's the ONLY option
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It's not the only option. It's just AN option. You should be able to re-flash a non-wipe package of DXLP7, and you shouldn't lose anything other than root. But you're not rooted anyways.
EDIT to add: question though. If you're not rooted, how did he delete system files?
EDIT 2: I should also note that any other solution for you will probably require root.
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It's not the only option. It's just AN option. You should be able to re-flash a non-wipe package of DXLP7, and you shouldn't lose anything other than root. But you're not rooted anyways.
EDIT to add: question though. If you're not rooted, how did he delete system files?
EDIT 2: I should also note that any other solution for you will probably require root.
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This is my exact question ^
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Guess I'll have to download the ROM and.reflash it...
I think factory reset will only wipe user apps but won't recover system apps.
Here it goes, stock phone and contact apks from LP7
root needed
Even if he has the apks ... he's not rooted so how are you going to push to system?
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This is my exact question ^
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+3
OP, how did this happen on a non-rooted phone ?
ctomgee said:
It's not the only option. It's just AN option. You should be able to re-flash a non-wipe package of DXLP7, and you shouldn't lose anything other than root. But you're not rooted anyways.
EDIT to add: question though. If you're not rooted, how did he delete system files?
EDIT 2: I should also note that any other solution for you will probably require root.
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I have no idea how he deleted them. He can't even remember what he did. Can't really blame him since he's just a kid
abbadipod said:
Guys i need help.my little brother was playing with my phone and he somehow deleted the contact and phone apk. I checked on settings>applications>all to see if they were still there but they're not. I would really appreciate if someone can upload the stock ics dxlp7 phone and contact apk. I can't make a call or check contacts since it's gone.or if you could tell me how i can restore them
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lol, seriously expect us to believe it was your "brother"?
Also, as stated how was these files deleted if your not rooted??
Just backup needed data and flash a rom.
Hilarious. The things you see/read on here sometimes
Poor lil brothers ears must be ringing by now and its not even him who did it
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abbadipod said:
I have no idea how he deleted them. He can't even remember what he did. Can't really blame him since he's just a kid
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None rooted phone with no way of exploring the system folders . Not possible to delete the APK only to delete the shortcut .
Factory reset will recover system apps as they are in the flashed saved firmware cache but it will delete data but that can be backed up .
jje
I have esfile explore even though I'm not rooted. Maybe he somehow deleted stuff while messing around with esfile?
Maybe he is smarter than you?
He Rooted,deleted,unrooted
As for solution reflash rom as stated before
sahibunlimited said:
Maybe he is smarter than you?
He Rooted,deleted,unrooted
As for solution reflash rom as stated before
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His little bro is genius! He found a security vulnerability.

Can't install Clockpackge.apk

I accidentally deleted the stock Samsung clock from my phone, so I pulled the apk from a stock rom and tried to install it, but it won't let me. Anyone know why?
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You are not supposed to install it, but dump it in the system/app folder and change permission rwrxrx
Szadzik said:
You are not supposed to install it, but dump it in the system/app folder and change permission rwrxrx
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Actually the permissions are 644, but the copying is right.
rha_december said:
I accidentally deleted the stock Samsung clock from my phone, so I pulled the apk from a stock rom and tried to install it, but it won't let me. Anyone know why?
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Are you using the phone in your signature.....if so you are in the wrong forum, so make sure you don't flash anything from this forum, apart from that, as said, push to system/apps and set permissions

apk installation help

So basically I can't install apk files on my phone. It's a recent issue since I switched over to the newest fj stock mod rom. I download an .apk, I put it on my phone but when I click on it to install it, the option to install it won't respond. I can click cancel. but I can't click install... I can't seem to figure out why it won't do it, and I'm sure it's something stupid that I'm not getting...
This exact thing happened to me.. The ONlY way to fix it is to flash new roms sorry
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That is not the only way to fix it. You can put the apk in the data/app folder and reboot and it should install. You do have unknown sources checked right?
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Yeah, I have that option checked. I'll try moving them there and see if that works.
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Tried doing that and it didn't work... I guess you could try and see if you have any luck.
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It didn't work when I put them in that folder and rebooted. What did work was turning off JuiceDefender and then trying to install them. Not sure why but turning it off made things install. Whatever... lol
Hello sorry to bring back old thread but what is juice defender... Problem has raised for me again.... :/
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OPGT said:
Hello sorry to bring back old thread but what is juice defender... Problem has raised for me again.... :/
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assuming you flash roms as a solution, would you have a few backups?
juice defender:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender&hl=en
As rquiett mentioned.....put the app into the data/app folder via any good root explorer app, then reboot.
The apk can also be placed into the system/app folder for the same outcome. the major difference here, is the device now sees the apk as a system app, and will not be removable via traditional methods like a user app. It would need removal by the root explorer app that placed it there.
Flashing "the same" build to get an app, is generally not needed, however, I have used this method many times over the years after I removed a system app I needed back.
You can simply flash the "same" rom over the top of the existing rom, and the pre-loaded rom apps are back.
Note: you must wipe the caches after using this method, or data corruption could occur. "cache and dalvik cache"
Long story short:
Root explorer app to place into data/app......or system/app
and if you are feeling adventurous....then flash the "same" base build over the top of your current build, then wipe caches and reboot.
Standard disclaimers apply....g

Freeze sdm the second you gain root

So the ota wont try to install itself. I see a lot of people annoyed with ota notifications. this is the solution
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Another simple tip, if you have to Odin after a soft brick, immediately start airplane mode until the rooting process is done. Me personally I keep the RomToolbox apk on my SD card so I don't even have to sign in to download.
Great tips!!
Surge1223 said:
So the ota wont try to install itself. I see a lot of people annoyed with ota notifications. this is the solution
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Just so I'm 100% sure I'm safe...
(I am rooted and thought I had already taken care of this, but obviously had not...)
I had an OTA notification waiting for me when I woke up this morning. I declined and it said something to the effect that it would automatically try again at 0100 (1 AM) and make sure my phone was charged and yada, yada, yada...
After that, I immediately renamed \system\app\sdm.apk to "SDM.bak" (I also renamed FWUpgrade.apk in the same manner as directed in another post I saw).
So...that's all I should have to do right? Is there a downloaded update hanging out somewhere that needs to be deleted as well? My phone won't attempt to install this later at 0100 tonight?
PaintDrinkingPete said:
Just so I'm 100% sure I'm safe...
(I am rooted and thought I had already taken care of this, but obviously had not...)
I had an OTA notification waiting for me when I woke up this morning. I declined and it said something to the effect that it would automatically try again at 0100 (1 AM) and make sure my phone was charged and yada, yada, yada...
After that, I immediately renamed \system\app\sdm.apk to "SDM.bak" (I also renamed FWUpgrade.apk in the same manner as directed in another post I saw).
So...that's all I should have to do right? Is there a downloaded update hanging out somewhere that needs to be deleted as well? My phone won't attempt to install this later at 0100 tonight?
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The actual OTA download will be located in /cache. Delete with root explorer.
The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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The actual OTA download will be located in /cache. Delete with root explorer.
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The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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Thanks!
10ECN said:
The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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would it be better just to delete the update? The file is about 327MB and that's unwanted space being used
How are you renaming sdm? I am using ES as root and it's not letting me.
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mugenfa5 said:
would it be better just to delete the update? The file is about 327MB and that's unwanted space being used
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I think the logic behind leaving the update file there, but with permissions removed is because that would effectively block the update from being re-downloaded again, or being run by the updater.
Granted, that point is probably moot if the correct updater apps are already frozen, but it's an extra layer of assurance.
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jhasty01 said:
How are you renaming sdm? I am using ES as root and it's not letting me.
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I used Root explorer...be sure to mount the directory as "read/write"
I ended up moving the two apk's to a backup folder on my sdcard, however after reboot I am still getting the prompt. I did not move the .odex files. Doing that now..
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jhasty01 said:
I ended up moving the two apk's to a backup folder on my sdcard, however after reboot I am still getting the prompt. I did not move the .odex files. Doing that now..
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Perhaps you only copied them?
FWIW, the FWupgrade.apk didn't have an associated odex file on mine.
It didn't actually move sdm, but rather copied it. To fix sdm and renove notification for update, I used Titanium Backup to create a backup thrn uninstalled the apk. Hope this helps.
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I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
Freezing is all you need. These other extra precautions are not necessary.
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reybie said:
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
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You don't even need Titanium backup. I never see it mentioned here so I don't know if anyone knows it exists, but I think the free app "System Tuner" by 3c is much better that Titanium and has way more features.
DerekZ10 said:
I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
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reybie said:
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
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Yeah, I just prefer to manually rename/remove files that I know for a fact I don't want running. Freezing apps via TiB works well for bloatware and stuff like that...stuff that I *may* want to activate again later, but in this case, I'm 100% sure I do NOT want to run any OTA updates.
Most people use titanium back up or other apps because a lot of users don't understand file and folder permissions or how to run commands with adb or terminal etc. Manually doing it in cases like this is good so you know that its disabled. Especially when its something like this.
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DerekZ10 said:
I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
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That's what I did and No Update for Me! Also, being on a custom recovery helps!

[Q] Am I Bad At Math or Is Something Going On?

Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I should only be using 5.5gbs rather than 11.
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jesusishere said:
Can anyone tell me how to fix this? I should only be using 5.5gbs rather than 11.
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Did you just come from a 4.1.2 rom? If so use grab a file manager from the market and look under /data/media/.
If you switched to a 4.2 and up rom, you will see /data/media/0(this is your NEW home directory and all your data is hiding in /data/media/.
Simply move everything to /0 and your space will be correct again.
I did a full wipe into 4.3. Will your solution rectify the issue still?
Edit: I deleted the folder because i had no need for anything there. Do i have to Do this everytime i install a 4.2+ rom?
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jesusishere said:
I did a full wipe into 4.3. Will your solution rectify the issue still?
Edit: I deleted the folder because i had no need for anything there. Do i have to Do this everytime i install a 4.2+ rom?
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Only if you go back to a 4.1 rom, its a google thing I am not versed enough in, but hopefully it helped you out. You can do some reading up if you so choose. Because 4.2 introduced users, they had to make a change to file structure to support it if I am not mistaken.
Did it fix the issue?
Edit: Which folder did you delete?
Yeah I've noticed it messed where I had to point rom toolbox for backups.
I deleted media folder in data. Rebooted. Reloaded some apps that were affected by it. It seemed to get rid of the files in my 0/Legacy/SD and one more folder, finally freeing up my phone. Thanks for the help!
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jesusishere said:
Yeah I've noticed it messed where I had to point rom toolbox for backups.
I deleted media folder in data. Rebooted. Reloaded some apps that were affected by it. It seemed to get rid of the files in my 0/Legacy/SD and one more folder, finally freeing up my phone. Thanks for the help!
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Hello Sir I'm in the same situation. So all I need to do to get straight is go to data media and delete the media file. Then reboot and I'll be straight.
I'm aware all my pictures and stuff will be gone but that's OK. Will I still have my recovery. If so it would probably be wise to make a nandroid now. Correct. Thank you for any help.

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