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I had a Galaxy Nexus and returned it like most to get the Rezound. I liked the screen of the Nexus, the feel of it, etc. Didn't like how long the ringtones where, vibration, etc. I look back and I was being picky. Now that every dev is leaving here, are still sticking with the Rez or you moving to a more supported phone? I'm thinking about getting that GNEX again....hmmm?
Depends if you are a flashaholic. If you prefer flashing at least one rom a day and having jellybean now then go with the nexus. Otherwise if you are satisfied with having the best screen best camera great 4G reception but not on the latest rom then go with the Rezound.
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kind off topic but ive been getting a lot of missed calls lately. people will call me, my phone wont even ring or show a missed call. but a few seconds later google voice will say i have a vmail? anyone know what the heck is going on?
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Depends if you are a flashaholic. If you prefer flashing at least one rom a day and having jellybean now then go with the nexus. Otherwise if you are satisfied with having the best screen best camera great 4G reception but not on the latest rom then go with the Rezound.
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I'd say 4g reception is identicle... It's the cdma radios that Samsung can't get right not the LTE
You can have a Nexus and not be a flashaholic, I'm not.
I hate to sound like a Nexus fanboy but after having both phones, I have a hard time not suggesting you to stick with the Nexus.
The only things I can honestly give in the Rezound's favor is better cameras, sturdier feeling phone (excluding extended batteries), slightly better audio quality and slightly better data speeds.
That last one varies by phone I think, I got higher 4G speeds on my Rezound but higher 3G on my Nexus.
My average 4G on Rezound was 15-20down and 8-12up.
Average 4G on Nexus is 8-15down and 5-10up.
3G speeds are much less of a difference but Nexus is always higher.
Development is one sided towards Nexus but Rezound does have life in it still.
All personal preference in the end
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You can have a Nexus and not be a flashaholic, I'm not.
I hate to sound like a Nexus fanboy but after having both phones, I have a hard time not suggesting you to stick with the Nexus.
The only things I can honestly give in the Rezound's favor is better cameras, sturdier feeling phone (excluding extended batteries), slightly better audio quality and slightly better data speeds.
That last one varies by phone I think, I got higher 4G speeds on my Rezound but higher 3G on my Nexus.
My average 4G on Rezound was 15-20down and 8-12up.
Average 4G on Nexus is 8-15down and 5-10up.
3G speeds are much less of a difference but Nexus is always higher.
Development is one sided towards Nexus but Rezound does have life in it still.
All personal preference in the end
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same here, not a flashaholic, but have a preference for AOSP.
Go back to the nexus.
ReZound
I've been doing some thinking too. HTC will never be open source with their m10 source code. That's really going to drive me away from theming the phone. If it wasn't for slimrom right now and the battery life it offers, I'd probably already have jumped ship. Let's face it. Samsung seems way more open source.
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Rezound, all of the way. More power, better screen, better camera, better audio (not beats), and cooler look.
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I'd say 4g reception is identicle... It's the cdma radios that Samsung can't get right not the LTE
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I think mileage here varies. My wife has a Nexus, I have a Rezound, anytime we compare 4G signals hers is always lower and has gotten fairly regular lost connections when I have no issue. A lot of that though has to do with the hardware in the specific phone you get, I have seen horror stories on here about issues with bad hardware in both phones.
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kind off topic but ive been getting a lot of missed calls lately. people will call me, my phone wont even ring or show a missed call. but a few seconds later google voice will say i have a vmail? anyone know what the heck is going on?
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This has been pissing me off for 2 years now since I went to a 4G/LTE phone. Although I don't use Google Voice. Happened with my LG Revolution and now with the Rezound GB and ICS and pisses me off to no end. Never had any radio issues with a 3G/EVDO phone. I absolutely effin refuse to get a iphone and also had the sad experience of a HP/Palm Pre Plus. So it is Android or bust. I also have unlimited data so there is another reason never to switch or upgrade til something really good comes along.
(in cleveland, oh if that has anything to do with it)
I just bought a Nexus and think I'll be selling the Rezound. I love the speed of aosp and the development, ie jellybean. I'll miss the camera of the Rezound though for sure
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I'd say 4g reception is identicle... It's the cdma radios that Samsung can't get right not the LTE
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problem is, if you can't grab LTE, you'll never HAVE LTE. when my rezound gets 4g all the time, my nexus won't even grab on to it....at all. my nexus also gets like 10 dbm higher than the rezound at all times. rezound=better radio better antenna
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problem is, if you can't grab LTE, you'll never HAVE LTE. when my rezound gets 4g all the time, my nexus won't even grab on to it....at all. my nexus also gets like 10 dbm higher than the rezound at all times. rezound=better radio better antenna
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Yea, but aren't the radio's separate? Isn't there two physical chipsets? I haven't really heard about 4g problems on the Nexus that all other 4g phones don't have. I'm not arguing, but more on the worried side. I had a nexus and sold it. At the time my area didn't have LTE and now I do. I miss the screen size and roms badly. I got it back for a good price and hope that I can grab LTE then again the tower is 2 miles from my house. If I worked for Verizon though although where I live is sem-populated I'm shocked we have one when there are areas of Pittsburgh that doesn't...
Another thing with the nexus is that when I saw the one in the store it has the Google search bar and the app drawer button burned into the screen when I opened a white webpage. Very disconcerting.
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Another thing with the nexus is that when I saw the one in the store it has the Google search bar and the app drawer button burned into the screen when I opened a white webpage. Very disconcerting.
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There is a nexus in one of our local VZ outlets showing that same problem....
well, the rezound for sure has a better camera, and from what I've seen a more reliable connection... the Nexus screen is better (although I don't know if it is as poor about the battery with screen on)
that's about it, if they were the same price I would've went nexus.
Atleast now there is Galaxy III =) dang that thing is impressive, I would've payed the extra $150 for that haha
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. the Nexus screen is better
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The nexus pentile screen is not better than the Rezound
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The nexus pentile screen is not better than the Rezound
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lol seriously. the pentile is meh, and the fact that it's super grainy at lower brightness %'s ruins it.
rezound screen is by far the superior one
Also, the nexus does't have an SD card.
Major dealbreaker.
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I'm most likely leaving AT&T and coming to Sprint. There are 3 good phones on Sprint and it's really hard to decide which one to get. The Evo 4g LTE, SGS3, or the GN for Jelly Bean. If anyone could give me their opinions on those 3 devices (best roms, mods, etc.) that would be great. The GN is now only $99 on Sprint. Ugh. I hate that I can never make a decision.
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I'm most likely leaving AT&T and coming to Sprint. There are 3 good phones on Sprint and it's really hard to decide which one to get. The Evo 4g LTE, SGS3, or the GN for Jelly Bean. If anyone could give me their opinions on those 3 devices (best roms, mods, etc.) that would be great. The GN is now only $99 on Sprint. Ugh. I hate that I can never make a decision.
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I am having a similar issue. Im deciding betwees the s3 and the white evo lte. But I think im going with the evo tomorrow morning. It has better reviews. I have the ps2 for Sprint and the s3 does not seem that much of an upgrade to me.
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There's a couple of other threads with people on similar positions as you guys. Just search around. They are pretty fact driven
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I just did the exact same move, I had all three phones in the past three weeks.. i ended up with the EVO, and I'm very happy with it. The nexus had subpar battery, and bad signal strength.
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I have both the S3 and EVO. You can't go wrong with either one. If you need some help deciding go to this great review comparing both
EVO LTE vs Galaxy S3
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I just did the exact same move, I had all three phones in the past three weeks.. i ended up with the EVO, and I'm very happy with it. The nexus had subpar battery, and bad signal strength.
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What did you like of the EVO over the sgs3?
Also I looked on Sprint's coverage map and it shows that I am in "fair" territory. Does that mean I'll have poor signal?
I'm in the same boat. I have been an Android user since Day 1 since Oct 2007. I loved it. But I bought the Samsung Vibrant 2 years ago and was very sure that I would never buy another Samsung phone given their sorry upgrade track record and not releasing source code and binaries for their radios. So i was pretty sure I was going to grab the One X. The EVO LTE looks like the best one since it had a micro SD card and a dedicated camera button. The lack of removable battery is a problem, but after reading the reviews on the battery life, I thought I'd risk it.
But two things happened. Samsung released the same S3 model (bar the CPU for the US market) all over the world and they released the source code almost immediately. They don't have a locked bootloader (I know the HTC allows you to unlock it - bit it breaks the warranty). I hated ODIN initially, but it does make the Samsung phones practically unbrickable and they don't lock the bootloader, so I don't lose the warranty if I root it and install a custom ROM. I can always ODIN it back to stock and get a replacement if something goes wrong with the phone.
I haven't been keeping up with the HTC ROMs anymore so I don't know how it's going these days. I have been using ICS on my Vibrant since December. How long have you guys had an ICS ROM for the original EVO?
What's giving me pause in going for the EVO LTE is
1. Would the custom ROM scene on the EVO LTE be as good as the one on the S3? Given that the S3 is practically the same worldwide and Steve Kondik is now a Samsung employee with access to resources that might help CM10?
2. The reports of the multi-tasking on the EVO LTE are worrying. If the reason that the battery life is decent on the One X is because it's aggressively dropping background processes, that's not what I want. If I wanted crippled multi-tasking, I'd have bought an iPhone. How's the multi-tasking? If you load a game in the background, a browser loading a page in the background and switch to the email app, is it responsive? If you go back to the browser, does it start loading the page again? Or has it finished loading the page? I use planetandroid.com as my test case since it gives even Firefox on the desktop a problem (although Chrome on the desktop doesn't have any issues with it).
3. I read that it's because Sense is so resource hungry, they traded the multi-tasking to keep it in memory, but I see that that still doesn't work and Sense does keep getting swapped out and has to restart when exiting email or the browser or some big game. Is this still a problem with Nova Launcher? I read that this has been set at the kernel level. Does Auto Memory Manager help? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman
I guess the extra 1 GB on the S3 helps. I have read some comparisons that the S3 is smoother multitasking than the EVO LTE.
I'd love to hear whether these are real problems or a custom ROM would solve them.
Edit: BTW, my biggest problem with the S3 is the display. It looks very dim. The One X simply smokes it!
Thanks guys.
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I'm in the same boat. I have been an Android user since Day 1 since Oct 2007. I loved it. But I bought the Samsung Vibrant 2 years ago and was very sure that I would never buy another Samsung phone given their sorry upgrade track record and not releasing source code and binaries for their radios. So i was pretty sure I was going to grab the One X. The EVO LTE looks like the best one since it had a micro SD card and a dedicated camera button. The lack of removable battery is a problem, but after reading the reviews on the battery life, I thought I'd risk it.
But two things happened. Samsung released the same S3 model (bar the CPU for the US market) all over the world and they released the source code almost immediately. They don't have a locked bootloader (I know the HTC allows you to unlock it - bit it breaks the warranty). I hated ODIN initially, but it does make the Samsung phones practically unbrickable and they don't lock the bootloader, so I don't lose the warranty if I root it and install a custom ROM. I can always ODIN it back to stock and get a replacement if something goes wrong with the phone.
I haven't been keeping up with the HTC ROMs anymore so I don't know how it's going these days. I have been using ICS on my Vibrant since December. How long have you guys had an ICS ROM for the original EVO?
What's giving me pause in going for the EVO LTE is
1. Would the custom ROM scene on the EVO LTE be as good as the one on the S3? Given that the S3 is practically the same worldwide and Steve Kondik is now a Samsung employee with access to resources that might help CM10?
2. The reports of the multi-tasking on the EVO LTE are worrying. If the reason that the battery life is decent on the One X is because it's aggressively dropping background processes, that's not what I want. If I wanted crippled multi-tasking, I'd have bought an iPhone. How's the multi-tasking? If you load a game in the background, a browser loading a page in the background and switch to the email app, is it responsive? If you go back to the browser, does it start loading the page again? Or has it finished loading the page? I use planetandroid.com as my test case since it gives even Firefox on the desktop a problem (although Chrome on the desktop doesn't have any issues with it).
3. I read that it's because Sense is so resource hungry, they traded the multi-tasking to keep it in memory, but I see that that still doesn't work and Sense does keep getting swapped out and has to restart when exiting email or the browser or some big game. Is this still a problem with Nova Launcher? I read that this has been set at the kernel level. Does Auto Memory Manager help? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman
I guess the extra 1 GB on the S3 helps. I have read some comparisons that the S3 is smoother multitasking than the EVO LTE.
I'd love to hear whether these are real problems or a custom ROM would solve them.
Edit: BTW, my biggest problem with the S3 is the display. It looks very dim. The One X simply smokes it!
Thanks guys.
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After the updates sense no longer reloads, for me anyway. Multitasking aside, the One X has had the best battery life on any phone I've ever had by far. Android or iPhone. I love the One X that's why this is so hard for me to decide. The white Evo LTE looks sick. I'm also starting to like the customization of the sgs3 the more reviews I watch of it.
I just got 3 hours of screen on time on my One X before it got to 50%. By far my best yet.
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What did you like of the EVO over the sgs3?
Also I looked on Sprint's coverage map and it shows that I am in "fair" territory. Does that mean I'll have poor signal?
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Not necessarily its hard to say tho.
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I bought the nexus and it was amazing with vanilla ics roms were pretty awesome too, the curve to your hand made it by far the best hand held experience of any phone the only down side to it had sub par battery life I had to carry 2 batteries
I now have bought an EVO LTE and its nice but I think cause of the non curve it feels like a mini tablet atleast to me , but holy carp is it fast and snappy , and super bright, I did like a whole lot better on the nexus was swiping left to right to close out the task menu , sense made it so you can only go up to close them out wich Is slow and they didn't add the feature in the browser like the nexus did
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If you go with the S3 u will be happy, after I had it for a couple of days all the extra customization of the S3 seemed trivial.and gimmicky, it was cool at first especially the gestures... But I ended up not using them at all. Yes I think the S3 is smoother than the EVO, but not by much. I hated the physical home button, it had way too much lag, and that's even with the S-voice turned off. You don't get full use of the home screen realestate on the stock UX, which was annoying. Those where my only complaints. My past three phones have been sammys, that's another reason I chose the HTC, I just wanted a change, and the build quality(external) and feel of an HTC phone in my opinion is far superior to Samsung. In the end don't beat yourself up with the desicion you will be extremely happy with either phone. Oh and I made the switch to sprint from ATT due to ATT raping me on data charges... Now I have to sacrafice service, but its worth the trade off.
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If you go with the S3 u will be happy, after I had it for a couple of days all the extra customization of the S3 seemed trivial.and gimmicky, it was cool at first especially the gestures... But I ended up not using them at all. Yes I think the S3 is smoother than the EVO, but not by much. I hated the physical home button, it had way too much lag, and that's even with the S-voice turned off. You don't get full use of the home screen realestate on the stock UX, which was annoying. Those where my only complaints. My past three phones have been sammys, that's another reason I chose the HTC, I just wanted a change, and the build quality(external) and feel of an HTC phone in my opinion is far superior to Samsung. In the end don't beat yourself up with the desicion you will be extremely happy with either phone. Oh and I made the switch to sprint from ATT due to ATT raping me on data charges... Now I have to sacrafice service, but its worth the trade off.
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With the Evo having source out now do you think it will get jb fairly quick? Same question for sgs3.
Also my One X gets pretty hot and I don't know if it's the battery causing it. I would love to be able to change out the battery. I miss that option.
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What did you like of the EVO over the sgs3?
Also I looked on Sprint's coverage map and it shows that I am in "fair" territory. Does that mean I'll have poor signal?
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I have "fair" coverage and I needed to get an Airave because I had zero or one bar everywhere in my house and couldn't have a conversation with anyone. Luckily, they gave me an Airave for free so now I have five or six bars everywhere in my house.
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Get a white EVO LTE and trade me lol I'd pay some cash too
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I wouldnt get sprint period for atleasr another year
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I wouldnt get sprint period for atleasr another year
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More info please....
the NV upgrades near me have been brutal, tons of dropped calls, especially while on the move, but even still while sitting at home. I would also check the NV upgrade schedule to see if they are even coming to your area any time soon...I agree though, wait on sprint until NV is up and running in your area.
The S3 is indeed almost identical as the international version, with the exception that it uses the S4 krait like the ones in the Evo LTE, putting it in the same situation as the LTE and the One X. The One X's community looks to be pretty active, but with a different processor than ours, the roms are not exactly interchangable, so i would expect the same issue to be present for the LTE-specced S3s.
If you're talking about development though then the multitasking and sense issues shouldn't be a problem unless you actually like sense, in which case all i have to say is you're boned .
I chose the Evo because I like how solid aluminum bodied phones feel, and I have never liked the oversaturation that is present on every amoled-based screen that i've looked at. I held off upgrading from my OG Evo because when i held the SGS2 and then the Gnex, they both felt flimsy and cheap in my hands compared to my Evo. I'm sure that they're probably all equally fragile when dropped, but for something where i'm holding it any time i'm going to use it, the feel was very important to me, so i would say it mostly comes down to personal preference, like Mitsu Evo vs Subaru STi, or Cameros vs Mustangs, test drive them both and see which one you'd like best.
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The S3 is indeed almost identical as the international version, with the exception that it uses the S4 krait like the ones in the Evo LTE, putting it in the same situation as the LTE and the One X. The One X's community looks to be pretty active, but with a different processor than ours, the roms are not exactly interchangable, so i would expect the same issue to be present for the LTE-specced S3s.
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Yes. The same issue would be present for the S3 if the CPU is the only change. But I expect that the S3 would be probably be a well supported phone since it would sell so many and many devs would have it. I have been out of the HTC scene for a couple of years so don't know if the EVO has had good custom ROM support. eg. I have been running ICS since Dec/Jan on my Vibrant.
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If you're talking about development though then the multitasking and sense issues shouldn't be a problem unless you actually like sense, in which case all i have to say is you're boned .
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Sorry, what does "you're boned" mean? I'm an idiot for liking Sense, or if i use Sense, then the multitasking is a problem? I like the stock Google UI using Nova Launcher. But I haven't seen any definitive answer on whether using Nova Launcher alleviates the multi-tasking problem. If it does, then I'd be okay with not using Sense, although I do like some Sense widgets. But I can live with out them.
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I chose the Evo because I like how solid aluminum bodied phones feel, and I have never liked the oversaturation that is present on every amoled-based screen that i've looked at. I held off upgrading from my OG Evo because when i held the SGS2 and then the Gnex, they both felt flimsy and cheap in my hands compared to my Evo. I'm sure that they're probably all equally fragile when dropped, but for something where i'm holding it any time i'm going to use it, the feel was very important to me, so i would say it mostly comes down to personal preference, like Mitsu Evo vs Subaru STi, or Cameros vs Mustangs, test drive them both and see which one you'd like best.
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I have got used to the "flimsy" Samsung phones. I like the lightweight feel of them and they are surprisingly resilient. Check out the CNet's torture test for the S3. http://cnettv.cnet.com/8301-33814_53-57468819-10391737.html It's intense.
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Yes. The same issue would be present for the S3 if the CPU is the only change. But I expect that the S3 would be probably be a well supported phone since it would sell so many and many devs would have it. I have been out of the HTC scene for a couple of years so don't know if the EVO has had good custom ROM support. eg. I have been running ICS since Dec/Jan on my Vibrant.
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The S3 is definitely well supported and got a CM10 preview release this morning. The sprint variant has great devs lurking in the background so there's still lots of good stuff to see released.
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It seems like there are is a good amount of people that have had the S3 and now have the DNA. I have a question that I could not find answered anywhere: Does the DNA have better reception than the S3? I am in a fringe area that every phone I had before the S3 got good enough reception. The S3 did not. Didn't ring half the time and had to go outside to talk. I got a replacement from verizon and it was WORSE. So now that I closed my car door on my S3 I have to get a new phone. The battery life concerns me a little but if I could make calls in my office it would more than make up for it.
Thanks - Keith
Yes. The DNA has amazing reception.
Samsung us notorious for bad radios.
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Well that pretty much sealed the deal.
Thanks man!
-Keith
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It seems like there are is a good amount of people that have had the S3 and now have the DNA. I have a question that I could not find answered anywhere: Does the DNA have better reception than the S3? I am in a fringe area that every phone I had before the S3 got good enough reception. The S3 did not. Didn't ring half the time and had to go outside to talk. I got a replacement from verizon and it was WORSE. So now that I closed my car door on my S3 I have to get a new phone. The battery life concerns me a little but if I could make calls in my office it would more than make up for it.
Thanks - Keith
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10x's better IMHO... The S3 was the worst.. I couldn't make calls in my new home much less back in my home town... I couldn't even get calls or sms back home... the DNA held a steady single bar which allowed me to even hold the phone to my ear when with most phones it would drop the call... Signal is king on DNA.. Battery is OK... I could easily get through an entire day with moderate usage.. about 10hr with heavy usage.. Still good enough..
Absolutely, I've owned a Vibrant and a Gnex. HTC radios are terrific.
Never owned a GS3 though I've owned several other Samsung devices that all had pretty poor reception. Htc is second only to Motorola in terms of reception.
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It seems like there are is a good amount of people that have had the S3 and now have the DNA. I have a question that I could not find answered anywhere: Does the DNA have better reception than the S3? I am in a fringe area that every phone I had before the S3 got good enough reception. The S3 did not. Didn't ring half the time and had to go outside to talk. I got a replacement from verizon and it was WORSE. So now that I closed my car door on my S3 I have to get a new phone. The battery life concerns me a little but if I could make calls in my office it would more than make up for it.
Thanks - Keith
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Verizon actually sent me a DNA as an alternate replacement specifically because of the poor radios in the s3. Couldn't be happier.
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I had the S3 before I traded it in for the DNA and yes, the DNA does seem to hold on to calls better than the S3. I also seem to get better LTE speedtests on the DNA as well, but that's all timing/location/bandwidth available for the most part.
I thought about returning my dna for an s3. But hearing about all the radio/gps issues turned me off. Plus I cant stand SAMOLED
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as the S3 and DNA both have the Qualcom Snapdragon S4 SOC (I know the DNA is the s4 pro quad, the s3 is only dual core), wouldn't their radios be the same? Unlike the Galaxy Nexus which has the horrible radios (non qualcom) with many problems...
I would have to agree, my DNA consistently gets better reception than my S3 did. The signal level on my S3 would fluctuate all over the place (according to the bars), the DNA is just solid.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as the S3 and DNA both have the Qualcom Snapdragon S4 SOC (I know the DNA is the s4 pro quad, the s3 is only dual core), wouldn't their radios be the same? Unlike the Galaxy Nexus which has the horrible radios (non qualcom) with many problems...
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Processor does not equal radios. Reception is largely software dependent from what I gather, hence the maker differences.
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Processor does not equal radios. Reception is largely software dependent from what I gather, hence the maker differences.
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I understand that... I was under the impression though that the few processors that are SOC also include radios. At least, the qualcom processors are bundled with qualcom radios. That was the big complaint of the Galaxy Nexus with it's TI processor in the US; crap radios bundled, , not qualcom. ...I may be way completely wrong here... Thanks for your reply.
Well I got the DNA. Haven't played with it too much yet but can make calls from where I couldn't with my S3. Pretty happy about that!
-Keith
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Well I got the DNA. Haven't played with it too much yet but can make calls from where I couldn't with my S3. Pretty happy about that!
-Keith
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Welcome Keith, I'm sure you will enjoy your DNA
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Welcome Keith, I'm sure you will enjoy your DNA
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Thanks man! I am sure I will like it but it is going to take some getting used to! Definitely different than the S3.
-Keith
Same processors do not equal same radio
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Reception is improved from my S3 amazingly.
At my house (Middle of nowhere) I got weak 3g, and usually barely got a cell signal. With my DNA, I get good 3g, and sometimes even good 4g, and cell signal is pretty good (about halfway, in terms of bars)
Add in the much better processor, battery life, screen, feel, quality, everything else and you have a winner
I had both a S3 and a DNA.... I kept the DNA b/c I want a phone w/ better specs, but I do feel touchwizz is more polished than sense. I hate the fact that sense doesnt give you battery %.... I honestly think unless your a tech geek the S3 is more consumer friendly. Thats why people buy Apple because its easy. Touchwizz is packed with features and easy... sense 4 is not polished.. I dont care about pretty widgets... I care about day to day performance. I dont even know how to set alarms w/o downloading a program on Sense...
Reception on the DNA seems better for calls, but my LTE speeds were slightly better by 2,000kps on the S3.
The DNA will be a top dog until the S4 comes out later this year.... its a never ending battle to keep up with their ****... Also the DNA is supposed to be one upped by the M7 later this year. I hate how HTC releases so many damn devices, why don't they just spend their time like Samsung & Apple and make one super device and price it at $1,000... instead of one X, one X+, DNA...
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Quadcore
2GB+ ram
13MP camera / 2MP Front
1080P
2400+MAH battery
Wireless Charging
NFC
Removable Battery, Expandable memory
I'm really curious as to the difference you guys have noticed in terms of overall signal, data reliability and data speeds. I am really close to buying HTC one, just am not sure if issues I am having are nexus related or T-Mobile.
Like I'd get no service all of the sudden when in the same spot I'd get 3 bars just a minute earlier. Or data dropping out with 4 bars of service at times, even though it'd be averaging 8mbps a second before. Just really odd issues and my buddy who has tmo didn't seem to have same problems.
Also, when doing speeds test on hspa+, device usually tests with a really high ping, same was the issue with galaxy nexus as well, gs2 was not like that.
I ended up getting HTC one on sprint but they royally screwed up and I am returning it Monday, besides, service was plain terrible.
I'm in DC area right now, will be moving to Atlanta next month though.
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I just moved from the N4. Boy am I glad. I never thought I would buy a HTC phone yet alone one with sense. This phone is just pure awesome.
I too had those signal issues with my N4 but I do not notice them with the one. Speed wise the One is getting much better of a data signal and I am able load up things that require data much faster. Ping times with the speedtest.net app are much much lower too in the same areas I tested with my N4. On a side note in my media room my N4 would always loose signal but I have 2 bars and get a little over 2mbps down with my One.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, it does. I figured that it was the nexus as I've heard of it dropping a signal from others too. And it wouldn't make sense for it to be a service issue when there is pretty good coverage.
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I just sold my nexus 4 to my buddy, I had no complaints about that phone, I loved the size of it.
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I get 4g where I used to get edge net even with the .27 radio runs video a little smoother camera kills except I miss photo sphere.
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weird..i always get better speedtest results with the n4 than the htc one.. also checked the htc one and the galaxy s4 in the tmobile store... htc one also got lower speed results. i think the metal might be messing with the speeds...
I tend to get slightly lower speed tests on average with the One than the N4 but not dramatically so (and speedtests vary so much anyway that they're not that meaningful); empirically, the connection is no worse. Signal strength is very comparable, usually within -90(+/-5)dBm. Bars don't mean anything; different firmware converts actual signal power to bars however they feel like.
It is nice to be free of the N4's periodic data drops, though.
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I tend to get slightly lower speed tests on average with the One than the N4 but not dramatically so (and speedtests vary so much anyway that they're not that meaningful); empirically, the connection is no worse. Signal strength is very comparable, usually within -90(+/-5)dBm. Bars don't mean anything; different firmware converts actual signal power to bars however they feel like.
It is nice to be free of the N4's periodic data drops, though.
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See, I don't really care if I get 1-2mbps less than on my nexus. What bothers me is signal drops, not even just the data, it happens very randomly it seems like. I just don't want to spend all that money on the One to still have those.
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Can you notice the difference in screen resolution between the two? I would think the difference would be marginal at best.
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Can you notice the difference in screen resolution between the two? I would think the difference would be marginal at best.
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Yes. I have HTC one for Sprint, I have yet to return it lol. Everything looks a little sharper. So the claim that human eye can't see the difference, to me, is false. It isn't a huge difference, but I can see it. More so, the difference is in colors, they look way morenatural. If you tweak settings on the nexus with saturation and brightness, it gets much better, but not like the One. It is much better in direct sunlight as well.
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Yes. I have HTC one for Sprint, I have yet to return it lol. Everything looks a little sharper. So the claim that human eye can't see the difference, to me, is false. It isn't a huge difference, but I can see it. More so, the difference is in colors, they look way morenatural. If you tweak settings on the nexus with saturation and brightness, it gets much better, but not like the One. It is much better in direct sunlight as well.
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Makes sense. The Nexus 4 seemed washed out as well. It's not as big of a jump from going from a non-HD display to an HD display, but it enhances the experience.
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Makes sense. The Nexus 4 seemed washed out as well. It's not as big of a jump from going from a non-HD display to an HD display, but it enhances the experience.
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Yea, nexus 4 looks good until you play with any other high end phone side by side, even gs3 or even optimus g that uses same display as nexus lol...
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Yea, nexus 4 looks good until you play with any other high end phone side by side, even gs3 or even optimus g that uses same display as nexus lol...
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Plus the battery is much better on the One. My only concern is replacing the battery down the line. I'm planning on keeping this phone for a while and don't want to be forced into a new purchase because of a battery that needs replacement.
But the Nexus 4 is still a bargain. For $300-$350, you can't beat it. The fact it's even being compared to $600 smartphones that are half a generation newer is a feat in and of itself.
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Plus the battery is much better on the One. My only concern is replacing the battery down the line. I'm planning on keeping this phone for a while and don't want to be forced into a new purchase because of a battery that needs replacement.
But the Nexus 4 is still a bargain. For $300-$350, you can't beat it. The fact it's even being compared to $600 smartphones that are half a generation newer is a feat in and of itself.
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It always was though, when gs3 was still pretty much new and was like $650 for a dual core CPU and nexus 4 was half that for quad...
These days things are different, hardware is usually sufficient enough to run any android skin pretty well. Sure gs4 and HTC One has much better processors, but day to day you barely see the difference. Nexus 4 is very fast partially due to stock android, and partially because real world, there isn't too much difference between it and say HTC One.
Now, I love stock, but I'm still upgrading to one. I simply am growing tired of nexus devices running crappy on T-Mobile network. From high pings during speed tests that translate to delay in initial data refresh in real world, to signal and data drops. And now, LTE. Sure, I'm running LTE on my nexus now, but it is not as stable as I want it to be, and battery does take a pretty substantial hit.
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Is battery a huge difference from N4 to One?
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Is battery a huge difference from N4 to One?
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Ordered mine this afternoon, expected it to be backordered. Yet, it shipped and should be here tomorrow... Stock Nexus 4 had subpar battery for me, with different kernels it isn't bad. The Sprint HTC One that I've had for few days gave me much better battery life than Nexus 4, and that was with Sprint LTE constantly dropping and switching. If HTC One on T-Mobile is anything like Sprint version, then should be, yes.
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Can you notice the difference in screen resolution between the two? I would think the difference would be marginal at best.
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I'm looking at them side by side right now with the same content open. The aspect ratio is a bit different in that the N4's screen is slightly wider and the One slightly longer. Text is a sharper on the One and it jumps off the screen more because there's more contrast between lights and darks. White is different, too, more bluish on the N4. I use an app that can alter RGB values on the N4, but no setting changes the nature of the whites relative to those of the stock One.
Overall, the One's visuals are more appealing to me and I write that as a satisfied user of the N4, largely because of its low price and easily customized Android experience.
Looking at a hd cityscape image, the detail and brightness of the One is plainly superior. It’s not close. The detail jumps out of the One. Tiny highrise windows are more distinguishable as one of the many obvious examples. I know that we're not supposed to be able to detect resolution differences at these pixel densities, but the One's images are instantly more defined. Some of this is probably pure resolution and some is the black/white contrast differences between the two devices.
This is the first time I've done this side by side thing with the N4 and it's striking. I'd compared the One and the Galaxy S4 in a store. My wife will be the regular user of the One. I hadn't cared that much before that it wouldn't be my daily driver. But now I feel like I'm missing out on something.
Switching back to t-mobile tonight and taking the opportunity to get the One. How would you guys say your transition from on onscreen buttons back to physical went? I love my n4 but am solid on the Ones hardware except the hardware buttons.
I too experienced the signal loss on the N4 until I hacked it to enable LTE, it was much better after that (there was decent LTE coverage where I was having signal issues but almost NO HSPA). I was also a fan of the software buttons, however.. after using the HTC One now for almost 2 weeks I am completely glad to have ditched the N4 for this phone.. everything is better, the cell reception, the screen, the sound (oh the sound!), the camera.. I even like Sense 5 MORE than Vanilla Android! (I know, crazy right?). I have always been an Android purist, I would constantly flash ROMs to get away from TouchWiz, etc. and I loved stock 4.2.2 on the Nexus 4.. but I cannot say a single bad thing about Sense 5, and Blinkfeed is awesome, as is the camera and it's features. HTC nailed it with this phone. Best phone I have ever owned, and I buy phones a LOT
What physical buttons are you talking about? Both phones have a physical power button and volume button. But nothing on the glass.
For those of you who have had the phone for the full run since the Verizon release date, how have your opinions improved, worsened, or remained the same about the galaxy s4?
I have had the phone for almost a month now and been through a few roms and have been pleased for the most part. I have gripes with the keyboard and the way the camera is great sometimes and totally worse at others.
I'd say after this long, I am happy with my purchase, but not so happy to the point where I'm not looking at upcoming phones later this year as a possible replacement.
Thoughts after two months?
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I came from an S3 so I wasn't expecting a whole new experience but I love my S4. The screen is amazing and it's snappy as hell. No lag. I got the 32 GB one and the fastest 64 GB SD card I could find. Unfortunately I got the update so no rom flashing for me. Oh well, I love it the way it is. I was going to wait for the HTC One but I'm happy with my purchase. I also get way better signal too. When I had my S3 I would always get 3G at work but I always have 4G on my S4. My average battery life is 18H, 49M according to GSAM.
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I love my GS4. its perfect for me. Does more then i need. If there was no root i would have been happy with it the way it was but with root and CleanROM installed, i basicly can't run it out of juice in a day, besides, charging is soooo fast anyway. I was also one that never had lag even on stock unrooted so with what i have now being rooted, its even snappier then it was originally. The phone is a beast. Signal is always strong screen is amazing and its the perfect screen size.
Honestly it is an amazing device.. I had it on clean rom for weeks and loved it.. just flashed CM10.1... I am blown away by the lightning fast speed.
I had the s3 as well before this. I've had mine since launch day and love it. I do have typing issues with the keyboard sometimes. Guess I sbould look for a good replacement. I wish it had more haptic feedback though. Doesnt hardly feel like im typing on a touch screen, it's too smooth to the touch. I had htc phones before this and rooting this s4 was 50 times easier.
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I had the s3 as well before this. I've had mine since launch day and love it. I do have typing issues with the keyboard sometimes. Guess I sbould look for a good replacement. I wish it had more haptic feedback though. Doesnt hardly feel like im typing on a touch screen, it's too smooth to the touch. I had htc phones before this and rooting this s4 was 50 times easier.
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I recommend SwiftKey keyboard. It's predicting is amazing and creepy at the same time.
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I recommend SwiftKey keyboard. It's predicting is amazing and creepy at the same time.
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Does swiftkey let you use the Google speech engine for voice to text? I have Swype+Dragon and I find the Google engine better in understanding my accent
I came from a droidx to the s4 so i am just amazed at what this phone can do. I am new to ROMs also so i am messing with this phone all day long.....
Coming from a locked down bionic, the lokid S4 is like a wet dream. ... Although, when comparing radios/signal reception, moto dominates Samsung. ..
Also Came from a locked down Bionic. After the JB upgrade that phone turned into hot garbage. The S4 is light years better!!!
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Does swiftkey let you use the Google speech engine for voice to text? I have Swype+Dragon and I find the Google engine better in understanding my accent
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Yea it lets you use Google voice to text. SwiftKey also has SwiftKey Flow which is like Swype. SwiftKey has the best predictions of all keywords I've tried because it constantly learns what you type. It looks at your Facebook posts, Google posts and by past texts if you authorize it.
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I came from a 32gb S3 (white) to a 32gb S4 (black).
For me, it's slightly faster, the screen is noticeably better and the battery life (which was already excellent on my s3) is slightly better.
I actually like the "flat" feel of the edges compared to the S3. The camera is phenomenal.
Overall, it's a nice evolutionary step up.
Love it
Download Jelly Bean Keyboard from the dev VLLWP. It fixed every issue I had with the keyboard and more. It's free and there is little to no reason to get the paid version.
After fixing the keyboard, I have zero complaints about the phone. My battery life suffered after the update a bit but now seems to be back to normal which for this phone means I can go two days of light use with my settings the way the are before I plug it in. The only thing I have noticed is that my battery gets eaten up if I am using runkeeper and listening to music. I think it is the combo of GPS and headphones. I'll find a fix eventually. REALLY looking forward to android 5.0 on it this Fall!
I like it a lot more now that the GPS glitches in CM10.1 were resolved.
Disclaimer: I came from a Galaxy Nexus.
Waiting to see how solid the post bootloader lockdown ROMs are. The devs will eventually backport everything that does not require a firmware upgrade. But they will effectively be a port-rebase hybrid since we will not be able to run the stock ROM anymore. 4.3 will be the big test. If the moto x is unlocked like a sort of nexus device, swappa here I come.
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Should I go S4?
Hey guys, it's been a while for me since I've last posted here. Pretty much I'm curious if I should buy the S4? I obviously want the latest and greatest but at the same token, i don't want TouchWiz. It would seem the answer is to just root and flash CyanogenMod but now I'm curious if Cyanogen allows for all features, like 4g & WiFi and full camera features like 1080p recording, to be used without problem. I remember, with my original EVO 4G, I mostly ran Cyanogen but 4g didn't work for a long time and there were a couple of other things that were a problem like 1080p video recording.
Hopefully you get a sense of my question: Can I buy the S4, flash CyanogenMod and use all features of the phone? (I know the eyeball and wave sensors most likely won't work...)
Side note: I got pretty turned off to Android with the purchase of the EVO 3D (my fault, I know). So turned off in fact that the EVO 3D no longer looks like a phone. I am soo tempted to just go iPhone so I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore... I just want ANDROID or bust!
I came from the gnex. Absolutely love this thing. Obviously battery life is 10 times better. I'm in casinos all the time and I almost always have 4g.
My biggest gripe is the lack of development, not that it's the phone's fault
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Hey guys, it's been a while for me since I've last posted here. Pretty much I'm curious if I should buy the S4? I obviously want the latest and greatest but at the same token, i don't want TouchWiz. It would seem the answer is to just root and flash CyanogenMod but now I'm curious if Cyanogen allows for all features, like 4g & WiFi and full camera features like 1080p recording, to be used without problem. I remember, with my original EVO 4G, I mostly ran Cyanogen but 4g didn't work for a long time and there were a couple of other things that were a problem like 1080p video recording.
Hopefully you get a sense of my question: Can I buy the S4, flash CyanogenMod and use all features of the phone? (I know the eyeball and wave sensors most likely won't work...)
Side note: I got pretty turned off to Android with the purchase of the EVO 3D (my fault, I know). So turned off in fact that the EVO 3D no longer looks like a phone. I am soo tempted to just go iPhone so I don't have to worry about this stuff anymore... I just want ANDROID or bust!
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I also got the 3d. I actually took my gnex back from the wife when I got iy
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I'm curious how you mean lack of development? You have CleanROM (stopped at 1.6.5) HyberDrive, Slim Beans, Carbon, CM10.1, Liquid Smooth, Synergy, Eclipse, Google Edition port, Chameleon, PAC-man and a few others im not thinking of im sure.
I can't see a lack of development.
I am coming from the bionic. I actually liked the bionic. I love my s4 except the new update puts a huge damper on things. I was fortunate to have root still and twrp. I am running brands me7 ota so I don't have wi-fi. Once that is fixed it will be perfect for me. I so miss Motorola skin. This is my first Samsung.
Anyone having a problem with screen burn in?
Hey, so I was at best buy the other day looking at the S4 and noticed they all had various degrees of screen burn in. Now, I know these devices are on all day long but I'm curious, do any of you, under normal use, have this problem? There were numbers burnt into the screen from the clock and the top info bar...