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it's been 10 months since it was previewed, 5 months since it was first released.
And only 1.5% of the Android market share is ICS.
What is going on?
I think ICS is a product fails, so it was not released. and overcome, they will use the JellyBean.
It's just my opinion.
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What is so compelling about it? I can customize gingerbread to have any features it has. Its not like ios which restricts functionality and appearance to the os level.
The only thing I miss is chrome.
Probably for the same reasons that all Android updates take a while to go out. Manufacturers face several hurdles when they update their phones to a new version of Android. They have to update all drivers to support any changes made to the OS, go through a ton of testing and QA to make sure nothing is broken (remember, not everyone who owns a smartphone can troubleshoot it or go to XDA when something doesn't work, and not every smartphone is fast enough to run new versions of Android). When all that's done, they have to get carrier approval, which means even more testing and other administrative work. Now take all that work and keep in mind that updating phones does not make the manufacturer any kind of profit. These phones have already been sold, and the companies might not be too motivated to rush the creation of an update with no monetary worth.
Now think on a larger scale. The Android ecosystem consists of hundreds of phones released by a ton of manufacturers all over the place, and Google doesn't really have that much control over how the manufacturers run their businesses. The result is the fragmentation we've seen across the platform. Compare that to Apple, which only has to support the last three iPhones, three iPads and two iPod touches, and you can start to understand how iOS updates faster.
Obviously, the manufacturers release updates anyways because otherwise their customers would hate them, their reputation would go way down, and they'd never be able to sell anything to anyone. However, they can still afford to take their time, especially since developers are more than happy to do that work for them.
If Google would let OEMs get in on development earlier they wouldn't be so behind. So the OEMs get the source code late. Instead of just adding drivers and releasing it, the OEMs decide to make their own launchers and bundle bloatware. The whole Android OEM update system is slow and inefficient. I wish we could somehow get updates directly from Google on all devices.
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Maybe it's because the minimum hardware requirements for ICS mandate more ram, faster processor, etc.. That rules out upgrades of the installed base and adds cost to new products, so the device manufacturers are sticking with Gingerbread for a while longer.
If i recall ... there's is only one ICS released device. The G-Nex.
There are 20million + galaxy s2's out there and another 20 million + galaxy s1's. Add in ten million or so assorted HTC devices and another few million LG and Moto and other oems.
Once more devices with ICS are released, you'll see the percentage increased.
All the GS2's will get ICS soon and many OG Galaxy owners will be near upgrading time (GS3 or so). It'll be rising once the real powerhouses come into town.
Russianzilla already answered out but the basic reason is that phone manufacturers are taking too long to release ics to their owners - for a number of reasons. This means overall adoption is limited to G Nexus buyers and custom room flashers worth compatible devices - hence your miniscule adoption rate
Its not about fragmentation and hardware support, this is business and profit. Its about people still buying gingerbread phones!
If there was some exciting new feature on ics that you couldnt get on an older os/device (siri), people would be waiting with their money and oems would be scrambling. Oems are simply responding to market demand and the market is apparently still good on 2.3 with a promise of upgrade. (Deliver on that promise at their leisure)
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If Google would let OEMs get in on development earlier they wouldn't be so behind. So the OEMs get the source code late. Instead of just adding drivers and releasing it, the OEMs decide to make their own launchers and bundle bloatware. The whole Android OEM update system is slow and inefficient. I wish we could somehow get updates directly from Google on all devices.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the bloatware. Wouldn't want people getting ICS without Sense or MOTOBLUR on top. (Although from what I've heard, Sense 4.0 is much better than it used to be.)
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the bloatware. Wouldn't want people getting ICS without Sense or MOTOBLUR on top. (Although from what I've heard, Sense 4.0 is much better than it used to be.)
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Sense 4 is beautiful... Plus its lighter and faster than the older versions. We're running a cameraless beta over at the desire s forums, and it looks promising.
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The framework of ICS alone is hell to tamper with, a dev would need at least 100+ GB (yes GIGABYTES) of space on a Linux PC just to set up an environment and create 1, maybe 2 not even fully functional builds of ICS.! And that's for one phone. Imagine HTC trying to build icsandwich or icsense for all of there phones (at least 15), trying to create an evo 3d optimized build to support 3d apps and camera which is near impossible even with the drivers and source code, trying to build for various screen resolutions and hardware (which isn't impossible because the g1, androids FIRST phone, runs a pretty damn stable ICS with few bugs), and on top of that, manufacturers aren't like devs (who will release with bugs and work as they go), it is there goal to release as close to a perfect build as possible, and that just isn't feesable, trying to keep your hardware and software for all of your latest models up to date just isn't something that can be done
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Manufacturers are greedy. So they want to make money by new phones. If they release ics to old phones, people wouldn't upgrade to new phones. Therefore less money for greedy manufacturers if they upgrade old phones to latest version of Android.
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Manufacturers are greedy. So they want to make money by new phones. If they release ics to old phones, people wouldn't upgrade to new phones. Therefore less money for greedy manufacturers if they upgrade old phones to latest version of Android.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks this way
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If there was some exciting new feature on ics that you couldnt get on an older os/device (siri), people would be waiting with their money and oems would be scrambling. Oems are simply responding to market demand and the market is apparently still good on 2.3 with a promise of upgrade. (Deliver on that promise at their leisure)
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don't think so. Ics is the biggest leap Android ever made, it is the first time you're dealing with something that doesn't feel patched up and thoughtless. Gingerbread sure as heck can do most of the things that ics can but everyone knows that the sum is more than it's parts. user interaction and user experience was never part of the gingerbread equation. What you're getting with ics is a modern os that was conceived for modern devices and if that isn't exciting then I don't know.
Oems are too greedy and too stupid to get the picture, that's why ics hasn't been adopded. they still think they can bull**** their customers as they have done for years with no one except Apple standing up for itself. and they'll bail out on jellybean aswell. Samsung just barfed touchwiz on ics, and still some seriously believe devices like the s3 will be getting jb? never going to happen. In future they'll probably be left behind. New Companies will step up, see the potential, understand that openness and customer care can be profitable, and replace them. Look what happened to Nokia, they ruled the 90s. Same will happen to Samsung and Co.
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they'll bail out on jellybean aswell. Samsung just barfed touchwiz on ics, and still some seriously believe devices like the s3 will be getting jb? never going to happen.
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Dude, it's too early to say that. Do you really hope that Samsung or other manufacturers would bail JB? Because I really hope they don't. You're being a bit too pessimistic here.
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ICS slow or broken
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Probably for the same reasons that all Android updates take a while to go out. Manufacturers face several hurdles when they update their phones to a new version of Android. They have to update all drivers to support any changes made to the OS, go through a ton of testing and QA to make sure nothing is broken (remember, not everyone who owns a smartphone can troubleshoot it or go to XDA when something doesn't work, and not every smartphone is fast enough to run new versions of Android). When all that's done, they have to get carrier approval, which means even more testing and other administrative work. Now take all that work and keep in mind that updating phones does not make the manufacturer any kind of profit. These phones have already been sold, and the companies might not be too motivated to rush the creation of an update with no monetary worth.
Now think on a larger scale. The Android ecosystem consists of hundreds of phones released by a ton of manufacturers all over the place, and Google doesn't really have that much control over how the manufacturers run their businesses. The result is the fragmentation we've seen across the platform. Compare that to Apple, which only has to support the last three iPhones, three iPads and two iPod touches, and you can start to understand how iOS updates faster.
Obviously, the manufacturers release updates anyways because otherwise their customers would hate them, their reputation would go way down, and they'd never be able to sell anything to anyone. However, they can still afford to take their time, especially since developers are more than happy to do that work for them.
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All good points. To address the section I've bolded, I refer to a point Chainfire gave in response to a pocketnow.com article. ICS isn't a broken or a product flop but a bigger OS jump for the phones than the tablets. The Transformer Prime updated first cause it was an easier transition from honeycomb. The phones requiring more work are taking longer.
Now on top of that point, the OEM's are adding their skins like sense, motoblur, touchwiz and the like. A shame in most cases but it is what it is. It also adds to the delay. More so as ICS is a bigger upgrade iteration then Gingerbread or Froyo was.
While no direct financial gain is to be had from OEM's investing in these upgrades, there is reputation. Of course a good upgrade cycle experience would encourage repeat business rather than consumers abandon a certain OEM's phones or android entirely which a portion of people are doing.
This of course leads to other questions, ones that may need their own thread.
Questions like should android OEM's embrace a less is more strategy. Fewer styles phones with more focus and polish. Can Google enforce its android alliance, or is Google even willing to. Or should it focus smashing the patent war?
I think whatever we see put out of Asus and Moto in the next 18 months will address these questions I've asked.
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Dude, it's too early to say that. Do you really hope that Samsung or other manufacturers would bail JB? Because I really hope they don't. You're being a bit too pessimistic here.
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I sure hope they don't but then again that's what they are doing right now. ics is a major iteration, the biggest change Android has ever had, Android reconceived from scratch. And yet they skipped it, or worse, somehow saw the need to disfigure it. what makes you think they wouldn't do the same when jb comes out, which, as many people believe, will probably introduce a smaller margin to ics than ics did to gb.
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I sure hope they don't but then again that's what they are doing right now. ics is a major iteration, the biggest change Android has ever had, Android reconceived from scratch. And yet they skipped it, or worse, somehow saw the need to disfigure it. what makes you think they wouldn't do the same when jb comes out, which, as many people believe, will probably introduce a smaller margin to ics than ics to gb.
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Well no one knows the future. All we can do is cross our fingers and hope that oems would update our device.
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It's a giant clusterfuck of stupidity from all sides.
1. The manufacturers want you to upgrade more frequently. In their eyes, they have no incentive to push timely upgrades because they would make people keep their phones longer.
2. The carriers pressure the manufacturers into skinning Android because they apparently don't a bunch of Android devices that look to be running the same software next to the iPhone. They feel as though they need variety in hardware AND software on their sales floors. This leads to slower adoption as new skins for new versions of Android have to be made by companies that really have no business making software of this kind.
3. Google has basically just been sitting idly by while all of their effort to make what is without a doubt the best mobile OS out there (ICS) is destroyed/ignored by the manufacturers and carriers.
Here's why they're all misguided:
1. The manufacturers are more focused on tricking people into upgrading instead of providing people with the best products available. This is where companies like Apple excel whereas others just don't get it.
2. The carriers don't need a bunch of different skins on their Android devices. This just does not logically follow. Windows machines have been sold on the same sales floor for years without problems. The distinction should be in hardware, not crippling software differences that fragment the user experience.
3. Google needs to do one thing: expand the Nexus line. They can't really impose restrictions on manufacturers like Microsoft can because Android is open source. Three devices in as many years just isn't enough, ESPECIALLY when the current Nexus device is only on one carrier. Imagine two Nexus devices (a larger one and a smaller one) on the four major carriers? That would seriously improve the Android brand. The vast majority of consumers have no idea what ICS even looks like. That is truly a shame at this point.
Gingerbread is a solid OS but it just isn't polished enough to compare to iOS at first glance (and remember, first glance is what sells phones). ICS is essentially a gorgeous version of Gingerbread that blows iOS out of the water. Consumers are getting the shaft by not being able to experience it. Thank god my Captivate has a couple stock ICS ROMs here on XDA. Otherwise, I'd be pretty frustrated with my mobile phone experience at this point.
Do you guys think well get the s3 apps like the camera and the s talk and eye tracking and all that like would it be possible or is the stuff based on hardware cause in my opinion since the s3 lte is going to probably be the same processor of the note I feel the note with the s3 futures will be either a very good competition or actually be a better phone for those who can use big phones
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Knowing Samsung history its very doubtful.
Would it be possible fir a developer to somehow get the futures from the s3 and put them on the note?
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Do you guys think well get the s3 apps like the camera and the s talk and eye tracking and all that like would it be possible or is the stuff based on hardware cause in my opinion since the s3 lte is going to probably be the same processor of the note I feel the note with the s3 futures will be either a very good competition or actually be a better phone for those who can use big phones
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If anything the GS3 would be using the S4 snapdragon which is the MSM8960 paired with the adreno 225, unlike the Note which uses the S3 snapdragon MSM8660 (IIRC) paired with the adreno 220. So not exactly the same chips...
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Officially? No. Unofficially? Yes.
This is Samsung's way to get people to purchase new phones. In other countries outside the US, 2 year contracts dont exist which frees customers to upgrade phones as often as they wish. Releasing new features for new phones keeps people buying the newest Samsung phones. Here in the states, its a different story.
FOR THE MOST PART, this is one of the few areas where Apple has done it right, firmware updates are generally speaking fast and frequent giving new features and functionality nearly every month or two. Yes, there are exceptions (most recently, Siri) but Apples' business model is based on the US cell model.
HOWEVER, this doesnt mean these features wont be ported by the community, just as Siri is now available unofficially for just about all Apple ipads, iphones and itouches.
Of course, this is my opinion, all speculation.
I wondered the same thing as the OP. And I agree with littlewierdo. I think it may be possible for these new features, which are mostly software, to be ported over to the Note. Only time will tell.
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I doubt Samsung will ever port any of the new software features over from the SGS3 they just sent out ICS and premium suite to the carriers I think thats all the software upgrades we'll see from Samsung to our phones. But I do think we have some really great Devs on here that will port some of the SGS3's software features to our devices in Mods or Roms. As to when this will happen I'd guess not til late fall 2012 after the SGS3 source code is out and the Devs have had enough time to figure out and write those features for our device. But like I said we have some great Devs on here so who knows they keep surprising me perhaps will see those roms/mods earlier.
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... they just sent out ICS and premium suite to the carriers I think thats all the software upgrades we'll see from Samsung to our phones....
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Id really like to know where the notion that Samsung has sent ICS to carriers came from. To my knowledge, there has been nothing officially stated that I know of except that Samsung stated Notes would BEGIN seeing ICS in Q2 of this year, but ICS will likely roll out STARTING in Korea and move to different regions over time, as has been the case with EVERY roll out Samsung has done. The Captivate didnt see Gingerbread until nearly a year AFTER it started rolling out in Korea.
I could very well be wrong here but based on Samsung's track record for releases and the fact that there has not been anything official that I know of besides a vague statement by Samsung about a Q2 update, I dont see anything happening. It might feel like something is coming but we dont even have a ready for prime time leak yet...
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Officially? No. Unofficially? Yes.
This is Samsung's way to get people to purchase new phones. In other countries outside the US, 2 year contracts dont exist which frees customers to upgrade phones as often as they wish. Releasing new features for new phones keeps people buying the newest Samsung phones. Here in the states, its a different story.
FOR THE MOST PART, this is one of the few areas where Apple has done it right, firmware updates are generally speaking fast and frequent giving new features and functionality nearly every month or two. Yes, there are exceptions (most recently, Siri) but Apples' business model is based on the US cell model.
HOWEVER, this doesnt mean these features wont be ported by the community, just as Siri is now available unofficially for just about all Apple ipads, iphones and itouches.
Of course, this is my opinion, all speculation.
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you are right.. Koreans are very trendy people. My cousin and his friends change phone every 6 months or so.
There is that "official" update link that Samsung mobile usa on twitter keeps referring people to, but that only shows one device with official update as of now.
As far as the OP question, it is very likely that we will see someone port these over since most of the new software uses the same base hardware (i.e. NFC in conjunction with wifi direct, or front facing camera for eye tracking, etc). I realize that the cameras may be different or the exact model of the NFC chipset or other hardware may differ, but it is software and can be changed to utilize our device specific hardware. Since these new programs were built on existing technology(that the note shares) it is highly likely to eventually see these incorporated.
It will take talent and time, but it is very likely that in later stages of development we will see potential unlocked... Or unwrapped, lol
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I'm sure someone will be able to port it at some point, but I wouldn't count on it happening anytime soon, and probably not even this year. I'm not basing this on a ton of information, but I've been following the Note forum for awhile since I decided to hold out for the S3 and as far as I know there still isn't a great leak without bugs for ICS, which was pretty much "guaranteed" by all the forum members as soon as the Note released in the US.
I could be wrong, but that's just what I've seen.
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I'm sure someone will be able to port it at some point, but I wouldn't count on it happening anytime soon, and probably not even this year. I'm not basing this on a ton of information, but I've been following the Note forum for awhile since I decided to hold out for the S3 and as far as I know there still isn't a great leak without bugs for ICS, which was pretty much "guaranteed" by all the forum members as soon as the Note released in the US.
I could be wrong, but that's just what I've seen.
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Well once the full official update comes out, we will be golden. Would be nice if CM9 supported our phone and not just the international.
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Hey all. Haven't been keeping up as much as I usually do with things regarding our Photons lately, but I see that Motorola has officially scrapped plans to give us ICS or JB on our 4Gs. However, what I don't understand is, doesn't the fact that the "Q" is on ICS help us regarding the lack of Motorola Android 4.* drivers for our beloved CM9 and 10 developers??? These somehow won't work on the 4G for some reason? I read the other thread and although I am pretty pissed about this also, I can't see myself permanently abandoning Motorola because IMO the device build quality far exceeds other manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, LG, etc., and although I think the quality of the iphone is good I can never again own one as I can't be without a modded phone. The only problem I see is that Sprint only carries the Q right now which sucks for me as I get my phones through work and am not gonna pay for my own even though I'd love to switch to verizon.
Doubt it helps the developers, the Q variant uses a different chipset. The chipsets are integrated with the processor, graphics and in most cases radios all integrated into a single SOC (System on a Chip).
My personal belief is that Moto and Sprint don't want to bother updating any device that isn't LTE capable and the Photon falls into that category. Knowing that the WiMax solution is most likely dead sometime in 2014, or sooner if LTE rolls out fast enough, they want those phones retired.
Yea i wish it could help us but they have all different internals. I asked about the Atrix 2 also but that didn't help us either
OK thanks guys. That sucks.
Closest phone with ICS is the optimus 2x(tegra 2) but apparently even that one is not close enough, drivers are supposedly very model specific. If the atrix got ICS we would be good though apparently since they are extremely similar.
They are now saying that the Atrix and Electrify will also remain on GB. Awe man I really hoped that they would update.. This is horrible and I'm sad that I may have to abandon my Photon and go get something else that isn't being abandoned by Motorola.
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They are now saying that the Atrix and Electrify will also remain on GB. Awe man I really hoped that they would update.. This is horrible and I'm sad that I may have to abandon my Photon and go get something else that isn't being abandoned by Motorola.
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What do you have in mind? Regardless of whatever it is I would say read the Forums from the manufacturers, developer communities like XDA and Android Community, etc. Also, it may not be TOO wise to buy a 1st edition of the phone but then that doesn't make sense now a days because all these companies are cranking out new versions like flies with new bugs as well...*sigh* :crying:
Could be possible to look into the Motorola Xoom tablet since it uses the Tegra 2 and it was updated to Jelly Bean. At least the video drives could help to make the CM9/CM10 work better.
... to HTC mid-ranged phones, states as INCLUDING the Droid DNA on VZW..
It looks like a couple of the HTC One’s flagship features will also be finding their way to HTC’s future mid-ranged devices. Phil Roberson, the head of HTC UK and Ireland, stated that HTC’s Blinkfeed and Ultrapixel services will be available for as many of its devices as possible. He says, “Wherever the technology is possible, we’re looking to take as much of the technology and enrich all of our customers.”
This is great news for consumers who love the new features of the HTC One, but do not have the money to opt for such a high-end device. This also follows last week’s good news when HTC announced that owners of the HTC One X+, HTC One X, HTC One S, and the HTC Butterfly (HTC DROID DNA on Verizon Wireless) will be upgraded to Sense 5 in the future. HTC is doing a great job at making all of its customers feel included.
Blinkfeed, a beautiful RSS news feed available right from the screen of your phone, is most likely to be available for most HTC smartphones because its all software based. Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”
The HTC One is HTC’s last shot at launching itself out of the financial hole that its currently in. It features impressive specs, like a 4.7-inch HD display and a quad-core Snapdragon 600 processor. It’s flagship features like Blinkfeed, Ultrapixel, and Sense 5 should also help make it stand out in the market. It’s also good to know that even though it’ll be focusing all of its marketing efforts on the HTC One, HTC won’t be neglecting its future mid-tier devices.
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see story here on slashgear: LINK
and awesome for us DNA
I'm sure we'll have a port long before anything official, if we even get it officially.
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Sense 5 looks amazingly clean.
You'll probably see Sense 5, but without anything that needs the ImageChip 2.
Ultra pixel is a hardware thing, it has nothing to do with the software of the phone.
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As much as id love to see it, slashgear is on crack. It mentioned the international variety of the butterfly, never mentioned DNA. We'll see ports long before and official leak of a build, and VZW will a Never approve that update.
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Ultra pixel is a hardware thing, it has nothing to do with the software of the phone.
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Yeah I know that, but this part of the article intrigues me:
"Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”"
so I mean a software update isn't going to make our phones *grow* a few more 4mp sensors, but if better technology from their new camera can be implemented into our cameras (where there is room for improvement), than more power to them.
I kinda want to know why the DNA is considered a mid range phone.
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I kinda want to know why the DNA is considered a mid range phone.
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That's a good point actually... I mean as far as I'm concerned... the One has a faster clocked cpu (but same base cpu?)
completely new camera, slightly smaller screen w/same resolution, front mounted dual speakers... and what else really? It's not like the jump from an inc2 to a rezound... I think they just nested the DNA with any phone that's not the One, tbh, and threw the tag "mid-range" onto it
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That's a good point actually... I mean as far as I'm concerned... the One has a faster clocked cpu (but same base cpu?)
completely new camera, slightly smaller screen w/same resolution, front mounted dual speakers... and what else really? It's not like the jump from an inc2 to a rezound... I think they just nested the DNA with any phone that's not the One, tbh, and threw the tag "mid-range" onto it
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The camera is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better. You also forgot larger storage which is a major problem for the DNA in the eyes of many users, in most cases causing them to keep their Samsung SGS3 or Note 2. Not to mention software will always be out first on the flagship, plus you get it right away.
I recently made a post on here arguing why I would never get the M7 (One) and was not going to sacrifice .3" of screen real estate etc, but after seeing all of the hands on videos I am hooked on it.
I love the look of the black one so much! - It is definitely not a MAJOR upgrade internally but it is CERTAINLY a better phone than the DNA on paper and due to the nature of the videos.
Not only that, it will be released globally and will for sure have more development. Not that what we have is bad, it can always be better and flourish faster. The only thing I will hate if I upgrade to this phone is waiting for the hacks to use the phone
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Yeah I know that, but this part of the article intrigues me:
"Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”"
so I mean a software update isn't going to make our phones *grow* a few more 4mp sensors, but if better technology from their new camera can be implemented into our cameras (where there is room for improvement), than more power to them.
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It's talking about future devices, not currently devices.
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A little birdie mentioned to me in passing today that the first test sense5 android 4.1.2 entered Verizon testing a few days ago
What does that mean to us?
Honestly, who knows....Verizon could take months of testing and rejections and resubmissions by HTC before its officially out...at which point many users could be running stable ports for awhile
But nice to know its not "well yeah one day maybe we will update this phone" and in the meantime they forget about it
Do you guys know if the port for sense 5 for the DNA will support Zoe & Zoe Share? It seems like a software feature... but maybe not?
Right now I still think the DNA is better because its got wireless charging.... but if the port wont support zoe share I may switch to the HTC one.
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A little birdie mentioned to me in passing today that the first test sense5 android 4.1.2 entered Verizon testing a few days ago
What does that mean to us?
Honestly, who knows....Verizon could take months of testing and rejections and resubmissions by HTC before its officially out...at which point many users could be running stable ports for awhile
But nice to know its not "well yeah one day maybe we will update this phone" and in the meantime they forget about it
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An exciting future for ViperDNA
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Coming from frustrated HTC One S S3 users who won't receive 4.2.2 update due to Qualcomm dropping support.
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Petition link will be sent to all major Qualcomm contact e-mail addresses and smartphone portals because no-one likes negative publicity.
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