I'm not sure if this was discussed or brought up in any review/presentation i saw. I plugged my phone into my computer and i get the little windows pop-up this drive can perform faster if plugged into a 3.0 usb. I haven't tried it yet, since my 3.0s are behind my tower. Anyone notice or try this to confirm?
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I'm not sure if this was discussed or brought up in any review/presentation i saw. I plugged my phone into my computer and i get the little windows pop-up this drive can perform faster if plugged into a 3.0 usb. I haven't tried it yet, since my 3.0s are behind my tower. Anyone notice or try this to confirm?
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I've heard about this as well. But I don't see how it's possible since the G2 dosen't have a USB 3.0 Micro-B port. Compared to the Galaxy Note 3, which does.
I'm pretty sure people are seeing this message because the Snapdragon 800 chipset supports it. But the G2 does not actually have the circuitry for it.
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I've heard about this as well. But I don't see how it's possible since the G2 dosen't have a USB 3.0 Micro-B port. Compared to the Galaxy Note 3, which does.
LG's own spec only says 2.0, so I'm pretty sure people are seeing this message because the Snapdragon 800 chipset supports it. But the G2 does not actually have the circuitry for it.
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you would be correct. Tested it out. Even plugging into 3.0 it still pops up that message and it still took 25 seconds for a 430meg file.
The USB port used on the LG G2 does indeed have extra pins that could be used for USB 3.0. If you look directly at the port, there is an additional 5 pins recessed behind the standard connector. As of yet I cannot figure out what they do, but they may be a proprietary connector for a custom slim USB 3.0 connection. They could also be for some other uses, such as video out or for connecting to accessories, but I don't know what.
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The USB port used on the LG G2 does indeed have extra pins that could be used for USB 3.0. If you look directly at the port, there is an additional 5 pins recessed behind the standard connector. As of yet I cannot figure out what they do, but they may be a proprietary connector for a custom slim USB 3.0 connection. They could also be for some other uses, such as video out or for connecting to accessories, but I don't know what.
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I was wondering what all the recessed pins were there for, I assumed some future lg accessory
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I was wondering what all the recessed pins were there for, I assumed some future lg accessory
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Here's to hoping they see more use than the Galaxy Nexus' POGO pins.
I dunno, the official spec sheet shows USB 2.0.
LOOK: http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach.../9/5/Screen_Shot_2013-10-03_at_9.47.50_PM.jpg
Look at the bottom spec area.
Pics? No idea where you guys are looking.
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Darkestred said:
I'm not sure if this was discussed or brought up in any review/presentation i saw. I plugged my phone into my computer and i get the little windows pop-up this drive can perform faster if plugged into a 3.0 usb. I haven't tried it yet, since my 3.0s are behind my tower. Anyone notice or try this to confirm?
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Yeah, the same thing popped up on my laptop 2 days ago when I plugged it in. I've been wondering about this...
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whosdadog said:
If you look directly at the port, there is an additional 5 pins recessed behind the standard connector.
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I guess that it is HDMI pins
G2 is plenty fast compare to my previous Galaxy Nexus.
-LG G2
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I guess that it is HDMI pins
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Slimport prob
I have tried it. First, plugged on USB 2, got error, then plugged it on USB 3 port, worked fine, no notification at all.
Haven't test if transfer speed meets USB 3 specification.
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I have tried it. First, plugged on USB 2, got error, then plugged it on USB 3 port, worked fine, no notification at all.
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What cable you have used? On stock cable I still got an error on USB3 port.
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What cable you have used? On stock cable I still got an error on USB3 port.
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Stock cable.
The g2 has a usb 2.0 port on the phone. It won't support the faster transfer speeds or the faster charging of usb 3.0. It doesn't have the extra pins of micro usb 3.0.
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I guess that it is HDMI pins
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If anything it would be SlimPort, which the phone does have, but I don't believe SlimPort uses any extra pins, just the normal micro USB 5.
Sushiglobster said:
I dunno, the official spec sheet shows USB 2.0.
LOOK: http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach.../9/5/Screen_Shot_2013-10-03_at_9.47.50_PM.jpg
Look at the bottom spec area.
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The chipset fully supports USB3 standard as it has an integrated controller for it. When you plug into a computer the phone even gives a notification popup that it supports USB3 for faster transfer speeds. The port appears to be a USB2 port though, and a USB3 port would look like this:
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Those extra pins probably have to do with HDMI output through the USB port as ddv2005 said.
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The chipset fully supports USB3 standard as it has an integrated controller for it. When you plug into a computer the phone even gives a notification popup that it supports USB3 for faster transfer speeds. The port appears to be a USB2 port though, and a USB3 port would look like this:
Those extra pins probably have to do with HDMI output through the USB port as ddv2005 said.
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Exactly. USB 3.0 microUSB port is much wider than a USB 2.0 microUSB port. There is no way the LG G2 can support the speeds or charging of USB 3.0 with the current USB 2.0 port. That warning only comes up because the G2 contains the Snapdragon S800 chip that has USB 3.0 support.
I'm not sure you'll want or need USB 3, for the following reasons:
1. You won't want it for charging, because the faster you charge a Lithium-Ion battery, the quicker it dies. We all charge it overnight, so we have at least 5-6 hours for charging, and it needs much less.
2. You won't need it for file transfer, because most of us don't was to fuss with cables, and simply use wireless transfers. Not to mention the storage on the LG is so small (16 or 32GB), that there is simply not too much to move...
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Hi I lost my G1 cable and I wanted to know if I could use a regular mini USB to update my G1 without having issues?
Yes, you can.
Make sure the miniusb cable you are using has a ferrite core/bead on it. Some folks with poorly shielded computer innards have experienced data corruption on cables without ferrites. If your miniusb cable doesn't have one, look around the house for a computer cable with a core that you can remove.
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You can remove those things? I thought they were attached to the wire. I've just been using random junky usb cables with no beads on 'em and I haven't had any problems. I just checked the cord that came with the G1 and that doesn't even have a bead on it.
yeah hes saying, some people, so more often than not you dont need one, its for people who like to be extra safe especially if they end up bricking the device from corrupted data.
one thing that i have heard is that adb will not work if you are using a regular cable, there are a few extra wires and connectors in the usb cable for the G1, it is also a different shape than that of a regular mini usb connector. but for daily use, or just moviing files you shouldn't have any problems
Err, I have several mini USB's, I usually randomly grab one when I work with my G1, I have never had a problem with using ABD or any other type of problem. Also, I'm 99% positive the stock USB cable is no different then any other cable.
Wisefire said:
Also, I'm 99% positive the stock USB cable is no different then any other cable.
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and i am 100% positive it is different from 99% of other mini USB cables. look at the input for the cable on your g1 and compare it to the mini USB port on anything else you have laying around your house and you will notice there is a difference
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and i am 100% positive it is different from 99% of other mini USB cables. look at the input for the cable on your g1 and compare it to the mini USB port on anything else you have laying around your house and you will notice there is a difference
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Yes, The input is strange, The HTC Shadow is the exact same way. Do realize, the stock USB's "Head", the metal pin, is not the perfect match for the slot on the Dream, it's a basic mini USB. Although, The included stock headphone/ear piece's connector, does in fact fit the input in the exact manor.
I think it's just the "head shape" that is different. I hvn't had any problems with other USBs.
Yes, currently I am using a Blackberry USB cable, and ADB and all functions work properly. In the past, I've used the original G1 cable, one for a Canon digital camera and one for an HTC Vogue, ADB works for all of them. Most of all, USB stands for Universal Serial Bus.. so I assume they are all the same.
tubaking182 said:
and i am 100% positive it is different from 99% of other mini USB cables. look at the input for the cable on your g1 and compare it to the mini USB port on anything else you have laying around your house and you will notice there is a difference
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It's an ExtUSB port, which is a HTC variant of the mini usb plug that has additional pins for audio. However the usb data lines are physically and electrically identical to standard usb, so for all intents and purposes unless you are using a special ExtUSB headset, it is plain mini usb. The supplied cable is a standard mini usb, so any other mini usb cable will work. Do heed my earlier warning to use a cable with a ferrite though.
I have about 30 different mini usb cables sitting around the house and i have probably used all of them once to or twice well doing playing with my HTC devices
Actually, that ferrite theory might explain things for me... I am experiencing some strange behavior when I use cables without the ferrite bead - the G1 will act as it's charging, but I don't get the "mount" option, i.e. it doesn't detect that it's actually connected to my computer. This happens both when directly connected to the computer USB port, and via a USB hub. I'm pretty sure that when I use a cable with the ferrite bead it also detects the computer and I'm able to data mount it.
Also, when using a cable without the bead, I have noticed that although the G1 says it's charging, it either doesn't or it charges really, really slowly, cause I could check by pressing power or menu once that it says charging - 76%, then turn off the display, then check again like half an hour later and it's still at 76%.
So I would actually say yes: the USB cable matters big time.
But of course, this is all based on my personal experience.
~Christopher
i plugged up an old desktop to retrieve some stuff the other day and realized that it didn't have usb2.0 and would not let the phone stay mounted. so just a caution if thats an issue.
grenness said:
Actually, that ferrite theory might explain things for me... I am experiencing some strange behavior when I use cables without the ferrite bead - the G1 will act as it's charging, but I don't get the "mount" option, i.e. it doesn't detect that it's actually connected to my computer. This happens both when directly connected to the computer USB port, and via a USB hub. I'm pretty sure that when I use a cable with the ferrite bead it also detects the computer and I'm able to data mount it.
Also, when using a cable without the bead, I have noticed that although the G1 says it's charging, it either doesn't or it charges really, really slowly, cause I could check by pressing power or menu once that it says charging - 76%, then turn off the display, then check again like half an hour later and it's still at 76%.
So I would actually say yes: the USB cable matters big time.
But of course, this is all based on my personal experience.
~Christopher
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strange, that's a similar thing that happens when not using enough voltage (the battery issue). I have a homemade battery powered usb charger, but it's only 4.5v as opposed to 5v. This causes strange issues with my g1 and my girlfriends. do you have lots of things drawing power (LED lights, lit up SATA cables, tons of usb stuff etc) because that can cause instability with your computer and sometimes undervolting usb things.
Ferrite beads more have to do with interference which doesnt seem like issue. Although i'd certainly use a cable with a ferrite bead when flashing or issuing commands via adb, flashboot etc.
The Expansys web site describes the Flyer as having a "standard micro-USB" connector.
The Flyer I have just unboxed and put on charge came with a micro-USB connector which was different even from the usual, half-squared off, HTC connector. This one has a cut-away at the top and (in a different axis) at the bottom.
I tried one of my older HTC USB connectors (Athena, Hero), but it resisted and I didn't want to force the issue, so the Flyer is charging on the connector it came with.
But is this for real? Have HTC changed the "standard" micro-USB for something propriety?
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The Expansys web site describes the Flyer as having a "standard micro-USB" connector.
The Flyer I have just unboxed and put on charge came with a micro-USB connector which was different even from the usual, half-squared off, HTC connector. This one has a cut-away at the top and (in a different axis) at the bottom.
I tried one of my older HTC USB connectors (Athena, Hero), but it resisted and I didn't want to force the issue, so the Flyer is charging on the connector it came with.
But is this for real? Have HTC changed the "standard" micro-USB for something propriety?
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Yes and no. It is a proprietary connector but microUSB cables still fit in the device. I've charged from a PC already and it works fine, although its SUPER SLOW.
/Linked images, hope they work./
A: Flyer "standard micro-USB", note the cut-away on the top.
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B: standard micro-USB cable, note the straight top.
Plug B will not fit socket A.
Devany said:
B: standard micro-USB cable, note the straight top.
Plug B will not fit socket A.
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This is not a microUSB cable. It is a MiniUSB cable which is vastly different and does not fit in the flyer.
Thanks, but...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usb_connectors.JPG
Not a one there has a cut-away.
Nice thing about standards... there are so many of them.
Also, tried Google/Images for "micro usb" and all the various mini and micro usb cables I have. Not one of them has this propitiatory shape.
Have you got a link to something authoritative?
PS: Cooks? What's wrong with cooks? Do you mean crooks?
That is why I said yes and no. It is a propriatary connector that also allows for connection with microUSB. If you are familar with HTC devices many of their winmo devices had miniUSB Ext connectors which were propriatary but allowed for a regular miniusb connector to connect to it. That was before the microUSB standard was made.
Flyer Port
Plugged into the PC
Connected to standard microUSB
Charging status
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Devany said:
Thanks, but...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usb_connectors.JPG
Not a one there has a cut-away.
Nice thing about standards... there are so many of them.
Also, tried Google/Images for "micro usb" and all the various mini and micro usb cables I have. Not one of them has this propitiatory shape.
Have you got a link to something authoritative?
PS: Cooks? What's wrong with cooks? Do you mean crooks?
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The micro-usb connector is the far left connector in your Wikidpedia link, the one you're holding / trying is the 3rd connector from the left which is a mini-usb.
Here are some pics with a generic sony ericsson mini-usb.
Sorry for the bad pics from my phone... and sorry for the duplicate pics... someone beat me to the upload.
f' I get it now.
Better get me some of these...
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/module.jsp?moduleId=cpc/548876.xml
Thanks
The port/connector is desined to stop you using the mains charger with other devices as it would "fry" them! This is why you can use a micoUSB connector with the Flyer.
Are you suggesting that if I used a micro to mini converter that I could fry the Flyer?
My issue is that I have several (proper, branded) HTC car chargers which have mini-usb connectors - which I used for the X7500/Athena.
A converter would mean I don't have to replace these chargers.
But the voltages would be the same, wouldn't they? USB current/voltages don't change depending on the cable... do they?
Hi
To buy a charger wouldn't cost much, but I use my gf blackberry charger on my dhd I thought it was battery that drew the charge.....
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The Flyer white mains adaptor is designed to stop you using it with another device. But you can use a standard micro usb with the Flyer port. I hope this is clear.
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Devany said:
Are you suggesting that if I used a micro to mini converter that I could fry the Flyer?
My issue is that I have several (proper, branded) HTC car chargers which have mini-usb connectors - which I used for the X7500/Athena.
A converter would mean I don't have to replace these chargers.
But the voltages would be the same, wouldn't they? USB current/voltages don't change depending on the cable... do they?
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You can use normal chargers on the Flyer, it'll just be slower. That's why their power adapter is different and much more potent for faster charging. And as Jah says, if you were to use the Flyer's charger with a phone it would most likely fry it as the phone isn't designed to handle those power levels (ergo the different plug, making it impossible to connect the flyer's adapter to another, incompatible, device).
The flyer has 12pin micro usb not 5pin to be used for hdmi output same like the in the htc incredible and htc sensation
Meh...I've tried three different micro-USB cables including an HTC variant from my Mozart, and although they sort of fit, none seem to go in far enough to charge or sync. Weird.
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Need to get this sorted ASAP.
The reason the Flyer has a 'Unique' micro-USB socket is that the charger is 1.5 AMPS. (And is a HDMI output)
This provides enough current for heavy use and charge at the same time.
Do not expect a standard micro-USB to charge your Flyer if you are using it, it will infact drain the battery!
A standard micro-USB cable will charge your Flyer if it is connected to a minimum 1Amp plug charger overnight and the Flyer is not in use.
Do not expect a Flyer to charge from a 500mA PCLaptop USB socket whilst you are using it!
Remember guys, this is much bigger than a mobile phone and even some of them would not correctly charge from a PC/Laptop USB.
Use your mains charger to charge it every night (or as much as possible) to keep it from going below 20%.
Do not expect it to charge from the sync cable (until we get 3rd party dual usb source cables as for some DVD writer drives).
THEN you will keep the life in your battery.
Soz for the bold font but wanted to get the message across.
twisticles said:
Meh...I've tried three different micro-USB cables including an HTC variant from my Mozart, and although they sort of fit, none seem to go in far enough to charge or sync. Weird.
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I've tried 3 or 4 different Micro-USB sync cables or chargers, and every one works. They plug in "upside-down" from how the plug goes into most Micro-USB devices that I am familiar with. Meaning, the spring-loaded prongs/teeth on the male plug should be facing down (if your Flyer is on a table, screen up), and you insert the male end in the lower "half" of the Flyer's port. Both sync and charge work.
A generic micro-usb will power and charge the Flyer. I use my laptop while traveling to accomplish this. When its charging, I'm usually not using it... I'm asleep.
redpoint73 said:
They plug in "upside-down" from how the plug goes into most Micro-USB devices that I am familiar with.
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ah...oops
twisticles said:
ah...oops
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Don't feel bad. I was making the same mistake, and don't know if I would have even figured it out, if I hadn't come on here and read about it. I didn't want to force it, or do anything that might damage the port, so I don't know if I would have thought to turn it upside-down on my own.
Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows how the Nexus Tablet 7 charges? Not through the USB port, right?
I have a Transformer right now w/ the dock & 2 full sized usb ports on it. But I have been waiting for the Nexus Tab for months, because of the screen, processor, and price. however since it does not have a microSD, I would definitely need to be able to plug in my 500GB usb hdd into it. I would need a OTG cable, right? And it does not use the MicroUSB port to charge, right? Otherwise how could you use the usb and charge it at the same time? Hoping someone can clear this up for me, thanks!
mvmacd said:
Hey, I was wondering if anyone knows how the Nexus Tablet 7 charges? Not through the USB port, right?
I have a Transformer right now w/ the dock & 2 full sized usb ports on it. But I have been waiting for the Nexus Tab for months, because of the screen, processor, and price. however since it does not have a microSD, I would definitely need to be able to plug in my 500GB usb hdd into it. I would need a OTG cable, right? And it does not use the MicroUSB port to charge, right? Otherwise how could you use the usb and charge it at the same time? Hoping someone can clear this up for me, thanks!
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ditto. i would like to know the same thing.
it should be pretty easy to do, but not sure if its possible.
enohand said:
ditto. i would like to know the same thing.
it should be pretty easy to do, but not sure if its possible.
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great, yeah, I would think you can do it but I just wanted to be sure before buying it. Perhaps when someone gets their Nexus Tab they can try it and tell us.
I'm not sure what the thoughts are around it, but I know Seagate has a portable Wifi Harddrive with an 8 hour battery.
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/goflex-satellite/
I'm hoping that will deal with my additional storage capacity. I would love to know if it uses MicroUSB to charge just to avoid carrying several thousand adapters though.
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great, yeah, I would think you can do it but I just wanted to be sure before buying it. Perhaps when someone gets their Nexus Tab they can try it and tell us.
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after some digging i found out that the OTG cable or USB functionality does not work for external drives & only works for keyboard & mice by default.
im sure somthing has to be written to do this, or somthing has to be added to include the mass storage driver ?>
Well, Ebay says...
What's in the sealed box:
· Nexus 7 tablet
· >>>> USB sync/charge cable <<<<
· Dual-voltage USB wall charger
· Quick start guide
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Spare charger puts out 5V 2000ma so yes it can charge via USB but much slower. The battery is so large most usb puts out 500ma so it would take 8 hours to charge battery from empty to full.
ToyTank said:
Spare charger puts out 5V 2000ma so yes it can charge via USB but much slower. The battery is so large most usb puts out 500ma so it would take 8 hours to charge battery from empty to full.
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Hmm, well what I was asking if there was a way to charge AND use the usb port at the same time. Maybe with a powered hub, and a OTG cable? Anyway, would charging it via 5v 500 mAh be able to keep the battery level full? while using it, starting from fully charged?
enohand said:
after some digging i found out that the OTG cable or USB functionality does not work for external drives & only works for keyboard & mice by default.
im sure somthing has to be written to do this, or somthing has to be added to include the mass storage driver ?>
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okay, ugh.. I really hoped Google would just support usb host mode off the bat. I guess all that's needed would be a kernel with host mode supported. but you'd need CWM, and root for that.. are there any forums that have the Nexus Tablet 7 category yet?? I would like to stay tuned for updates.
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how could you use the usb and charge it at the same time?
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You can always use USB hubs (not 100% sure). But, I'd recommend you to access your HDD over Wi-Fi. Many Wi-Fi routers support HDD connectivity. And, you can find HDDs with in-built Wi-Fi, too.
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Spare charger puts out 5V 2000ma so yes it can charge via USB but much slower. The battery is so large most usb puts out 500ma so it would take 8 hours to charge battery from empty to full.
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Hmm, well what I was asking if there was a way to charge AND use the usb port at the same time. Maybe with a powered hub, and a OTG cable? Anyway, would charging it via 5v 500 mAh be able to keep the battery level full? while using it, starting from fully charged?
enohand said:
after some digging i found out that the OTG cable or USB functionality does not work for external drives & only works for keyboard & mice by default.
im sure somthing has to be written to do this, or somthing has to be added to include the mass storage driver ?>
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okay, ugh.. I really hoped Google would just support usb host mode off the bat. I guess all that's needed would be a kernel with host mode supported. but you'd need CWM, and root for that.. are there any forums that have the Nexus Tablet 7 category yet?? I would like to stay tuned for updates.
The tablet does support host mode.
However it can only be used for keyboard and mice, there is no drivers for external, or is sticks. Someone w ok und have to implement that with a Asop Rom
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enohand said:
The tablet does support host mode.
However it can only be used for keyboard and mice, there is no drivers for external, or is sticks. Someone w ok und have to implement that with a Asop Rom
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I just found this: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30129-kernel-nexus-7-cifsntfsusb-otg/
that will let me get a Micro USB OTG, and be able to plug in my usb hdd? And if I get a powered USB 2.0 hub, I can plug the OTG into the source port, and the power from the hub will charge it? and while it's charging I can then plug in my USB hdd into a port on the hub and it will charge & use the hdd at the same time?
If so as soon as I get home I will start looking for a Nexus Tab to buy
IndustryCanada said:
I'm not sure what the thoughts are around it, but I know Seagate has a portable Wifi Harddrive with an 8 hour battery.
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/goflex-satellite/
I'm hoping that will deal with my additional storage capacity. I would love to know if it uses MicroUSB to charge just to avoid carrying several thousand adapters though.
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Also Kingston has SSD wi-fi drives of 16, 32 or 64GB capacity - are about the size of an iPhone. Uses mini-USB for charging. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Wi-Drive-Mini-USB-WID-64GB-A/dp/B00822GIH2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342706869&sr=8-1&keywords=kingston+wi-drive+64gb
cushcalc said:
Also Kingston has SSD wi-fi drives of 16, 32 or 64GB capacity - are about the size of an iPhone. Uses mini-USB for charging. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Wi-Drive-Mini-USB-WID-64GB-A/dp/B00822GIH2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342706869&sr=8-1&keywords=kingston+wi-drive+64gb
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Here's the thing, I already got a Seagate 500gb 7200rpm drive, so I ain't interested in wifi drives. I was looking for confirmation that the kennel I linked world make it work. And also Confirmation about the usb hub charging and accessing hdd at the same time, so if anyone has a Nexus 7 and OTG cable and would test this I'd be much obliged.
mvmacd said:
I just found this: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30129-kernel-nexus-7-cifsntfsusb-otg/
that will let me get a Micro USB OTG, and be able to plug in my usb hdd? And if I get a powered USB 2.0 hub, I can plug the OTG into the source port, and the power from the hub will charge it? and while it's charging I can then plug in my USB hdd into a port on the hub and it will charge & use the hdd at the same time?
If so as soon as I get home I will start looking for a Nexus Tab to buy
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I don't think so, the power source of a hub only delivers energy to the devices connected, not to the host
It charges like any other android phone.
RoberGalarga said:
I don't think so, the power source of a hub only delivers energy to the devices connected, not to the host
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hmm.. you're right. so much for that idea..
Is there any way possible to charge the nexus tablet while using a OTG cable for plugging in a usb device?
what about a Y-Cable?
mvmacd said:
hmm.. you're right. so much for that idea..
Is there any way possible to charge the nexus tablet while using a OTG cable for plugging in a usb device?
what about a Y-Cable?
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Hmm... a good idea. Time to paint
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Will it work? I dunno, but it's an idea to start
RoberGalarga said:
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Will it work? I dunno, but it's an idea to start
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Wow, exactly what I had in mind before I thought of the y cable. however I'd like to hear the outcome if anyone does try this, or the y cable
Dam...
No it will not work, the device does not have the ability to Mount a drive, it doesn't have the software needed to do so
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Hi,
I just found out that note 3 uses a USB 3.0, is there any existing OTG cable for it?
thanks in advance!:fingers-crossed:
charlito_ngo said:
Hi,
I just found out that note 3 uses a USB 3.0, is there any existing OTG cable for it?
thanks in advance!:fingers-crossed:
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It supports USB2 as well (the connector works with both) so your existing OTG cable will still work.
neoKushan said:
It supports USB2 as well (the connector works with both) so your existing OTG cable will still work.
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hi, Thanks for the reply
usb 3.0 and 2.0 has different plugs, 3.0 is bigger than 2.0, so I would need to look for an adapter for my old OTG cable to work with note 3?
thanks
charlito_ngo said:
hi, Thanks for the reply
usb 3.0 and 2.0 has different plugs, 3.0 is bigger than 2.0, so I would need to look for an adapter for my old OTG cable to work with note 3?
thanks
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No, not at all. Look carefully at the USB 3 plug - yes it's bigger but it also contains a USB2 shaped plug. USB2 cables plug into that as per normal. Think of it as USB2 with extra pins to the side of it - that's also why it has an odd shape.
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neoKushan said:
No, not at all. Look carefully at the USB 3 plug - yes it's bigger but it also contains a USB2 shaped plug. USB2 cables plug into that as per normal. Think of it as USB2 with extra pins to the side of it - that's also why it has an odd shape.
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oh really? that's new to me thanks alot!
It may work .. it will plug in but may not work and the note 3 is the first Android with usb3.0 plug so there may be a wait for the cable as the mhl cable May not work either have to wait and see
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USB 3 has the 2 port cable so one port in and one port out... that is why it has the smoking fast speeds. dedicated I/O
With Note 3's OTG able to uses full speed of USB 3.0?
If you own any 3.0 western digital hard drives...you will be able to use those cords
I can confirm regular USB OTG cables work, as do MHL cables (tried Samsung MHL 2.0 cable and Smart Dock, both work).
Good news! Thank you very much!!
I found some one whos tested the phone's usb capabilities: :good::good::victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446852
I just found this, I wonder if it would work
Can't find any for sale anywhere, but it is easy to find a to male version, then just get a to male to female converter.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/336343060/USB_3_0_a_Female_to.html
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It may not if the otg pin isnt shorted.
designgears said:
I just found this, I wonder if it would work
Can't find any for sale anywhere, but it is easy to find a to male version, then just get a to male to female converter.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/336343060/USB_3_0_a_Female_to.html
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This cable works perfectly fine and tested it today
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281175889183
I got it for £1.33 which is peanuts!
charlito_ngo said:
Hi,
I just found out that note 3 uses a USB 3.0, is there any existing OTG cable for it?
thanks in advance!:fingers-crossed:
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Just ordered the OTG and the MHL 2.0 cables from Samsung directly. Coupon code rv18623 saved me 50% so I got both for 36.86 including tax and shipping and don't have to worry about fake products.
Of course next week they'll probably release USB 3.0 versions...
I am using this one.
it's cool,where to buy it? How much?
charlito_ngo said:
Hi,
I just found out that note 3 uses a USB 3.0, is there any existing OTG cable for it?
thanks in advance!:fingers-crossed:
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i use my old OTG and works fine.. my note3 can read thosiba 32GB flashdisk
smallkeung said:
it's cool,where to buy it? How much?
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10 bucks, I bought here
http://usb.brando.com/microusb-otg-3-port-hub-with-smartphone-stand_p03242c039d015.html
http://dx.com/p/cmi-micro-9-pin-mal...samsung-galaxy-note-3-n9000-white-15cm-256164
Would that kind of cable work? The OTG cable I have for my tablet is just a mini USB (not micro!) to USB female, and it works fine. Would that kind of OTG cable work? So I can connect stuff like drives and keyboards.
Thanks!
From the picture it suggest to be a USB 3.0 connector to a USB 2 Connector, since USB 3.0 normally are all blue inside. It schould at least support USB 2 OTG if the USB A connector is missing the additional pins for USB 3 support as the color suggests.
FYI: To my knowledge OTG has the 5 th pin, not found in USB A and B and only are present in mini- and mircro- USB 2.0 connectors connected to ground to identify it as OTG. Thats all the difference to a normal USB mini./micro-cable. When I modified the connector from a mini-USB by connecting the 5th pin to ground and connected it to my Nexus 7 vie a mini- to micro-USB adpapter it didn't work because the adapter connect only the 4 standard pins, also found in USB A and B, through.
snn47 said:
From the picture it suggest to be a USB 3.0 connector to a USB 2 Connector, since USB 3.0 normally are all blue inside. It schould at least support USB 2 OTG if the USB A connector is missing the additional pins for USB 3 support as the color suggests.
FYI: To my knowledge OTG has the 5 th pin, not found in USB A and B and only are present in mini- and mircro- USB 2.0 connectors connected to ground to identify it as OTG. Thats all the difference to a normal USB mini./micro-cable. When I modified the connector from a mini-USB by connecting the 5th pin to ground and connected it to my Nexus 7 vie a mini- to micro-USB adpapter it didn't work because the adapter connect only the 4 standard pins, also found in USB A and B, through.
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http://dx.com/p/cy-u3-119-bk-micro-...-cable-for-samsung-galaxy-note-3-n9000-252067
That's a USB 3.0 one. It looks like it has 5 pins on the USB part, but yeah.. I really don't know.
So what was the conclusion? That it only works with 5-pin OTG cables? And do you possible know if any of those I linked are 5-pins?
A mini USB 2.0 or 3.0 OTG will work. I have both and they both work fine.
mortenmoulder said:
http://dx.com/p/cy-u3-119-bk-micro-...-cable-for-samsung-galaxy-note-3-n9000-252067
That's a USB 3.0 one. It looks like it has 5 pins on the USB part, but yeah.. I really don't know.
So what was the conclusion? That it only works with 5-pin OTG cables? And do you possible know if any of those I linked are 5-pins?
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Since it is advertised as USB 2.0 OTG it will most likely only support USB 2.0 transfer speed, despite that it uses what looks like a USB 3.0 micro connector. All USB 3.0 A connector that I own have blue isolation inside the metal frame, independent the color used on the cable or connector, which is either blue or black on my USB 3.0 cable. USB 3.0 A connector have an additional row of connectors removed in the back, that can't be seen unless you look directly in one.
I have been looking for USB 3.0 OTG cable or an USB 3.0 A to micro USB 3.0 to but could not find one advertised yet.
MikeyLee said:
A mini USB 2.0 or 3.0 OTG will work. I have both and they both work fine.
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How is Mini USB going to work, when the Note 3 doesn't have that connector?
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Since it is advertised as USB 2.0 OTG it will most likely only support USB 2.0 transfer speed, despite that it uses what looks like a USB 3.0 micro connector. All USB 3.0 A connector that I own have blue isolation inside the metal frame, independent the color used on the cable or connector, which is either blue or black on my USB 3.0 cable. USB 3.0 A connector have an additional row of connectors removed in the back, that can't be seen unless you look directly in one.
I have been looking for USB 3.0 OTG cable or an USB 3.0 A to micro USB 3.0 to but could not find one advertised yet.
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Okay, that sounds good enough. I'll order one and see how it goes. USB 2.0 isn't that bad to be honest, but 3.0 would be super cool.
mortenmoulder said:
How is Mini USB going to work, when the Note 3 doesn't have that connector?
Okay, that sounds good enough. I'll order one and see how it goes. USB 2.0 isn't that bad to be honest, but 3.0 would be super cool.
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Have you tried the USB 3.0 A to µUSB 3,0 cable that came with the note? As I wrote in a different post I had tried to use this cable that came with my note 3 as well as µUSB 2.0 OTG none worked, even though they worked with the note 2 and Nexus 7 only a few days ago. I could not get any of the USB-Sticks to show up in own own folders or in the ES-Explorers.
Could anyone acces external storage so far?
snn47 said:
Have you tried the USB 3.0 A to µUSB 3,0 cable that came with the note? As I wrote in a different post I had tried to use this cable that came with my note 3 as well as µUSB 2.0 OTG none worked, even though they worked with the note 2 and Nexus 7 only a few days ago. I could not get any of the USB-Sticks to show up in own own folders or in the ES-Explorers.
Could anyone acces external storage so far?
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Oh uhm nope, I haven't tried that. We'll see and hope I guess.
@ MikeyLee [/B]
mortenmoulder said:
A mini USB 2.0 or 3.0 OTG will work. I have both and they both work fine.
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Interesting I could only find µUSB OTG cabel doing a search and as I wrote above all mini to µUSB-Adapters I tried did not provide connection for the 5th pin. What brand are they and where did you get them?
I received an USB 3.0 (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00FYO66GO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and an USB 3.0 PNY Stick, now I have to find the time to test it.
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I received an USB 3.0 (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00FYO66GO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and an USB 3.0 PNY Stick, now I have to find the time to test it.
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Can you use with this cable usb 2.0 devices?
elias2204 said:
Can you use with this cable usb 2.0 devices?
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Yes, every USB 3.0 connection consists of seperate USB 2.0 and 3.0 parts.
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I received an USB 3.0 (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00FYO66GO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and an USB 3.0 PNY Stick, now I have to find the time to test it.
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Fast data transfer speed?
Sorry NO!
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I could not find how to activate it in the manual.
Some pages show/say you have to activate the USB 3.0 first,
it works only with windows pc and then
it works only for 10' before switching back to USB 2.0 speed.
However I could not find this option in the menu when I connect the Note 3 to my HP Elitebook win 7 USB 3.0 port. Can anyone point out where in the menu this should appear or if additional software is needed?
It does not detect USB 3.0 devices, e.g. like USB 128 GB PNY USB-stick.
This is stupid since it defeats the purpose of providing fast data transfer when you have The only benefit I have from USB 3.0 is that it is less likely that I try to force the USB 3.0 OTG 180° reversed, sind the noth helps.
PS.: My µUSB 3.0 OTG has 4 pins for USB 2.0 and 5 for USB 3.0 in the A female connector and 5 each in the two parts of the µUSB 3.0 male connector