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I'm sure this has been noticed and asked prior to this post. We all read the phenomenon in these threads and posts.
Question: Does it seem like some of the best Developers are leaving and moving their work to their own or core group based sites?
Why?
just concerned since I can count more than a few who've left, for whatever reason, in the last 6 months...
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Drama I guess. I'm kinda bummed that my old og Evo is more popular for development than my 3d. I thought most would move to the new phone.
It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.
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It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.
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Did quick search it. Seems to me that either you are in or not. With our phone being difficult to get the basics functional, the practice of running off the guys that move development forward is slowing progress to a crawl.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.
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Oohaylima, Haha. You said it, we ain't going anywhere....
It does totally suck.
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Its nice to see I am not the only one who is feeling the same way. The saddest thing is the only people truly hurt by this are the end users like us...
My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..
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My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..
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You are right on the money sir!
Developers leaving or moving
And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today
jslim38 said:
And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today
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y u bump 2 month old thread. Just like the Ancien Regime was inappropriate for its time, this thread is inappropriate for ours. Check the all new ics leak roms nao and u will see.
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Thats beside the point and FYI I'm fully aware of all ics releases old and new how many ics leaks can you get your hands on
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I got this idea while lurking on the rezound general forum, and a lot of people have really pissed off the amazing devs that offered their help to bring out the most out of the phone. Yeah, it might be a little late to be making this, but with the Eris being my first phone, the community here has pretty well taken care of each other and the developers stuck with us, at least, until they got a newer phone and moved on. My experience in the rezound forum has been a little less than savory, especially in the last few weeks. All of the trolls and wannabe heroes that tell the trolls off have made me remember and miss the good old days here. It's been too damn long, and these devs deserve a thread where we kiss their asses (no sarcasm) To all the devs that ever worked on the Eris, thank you for all of your hard work.
Here's a list of the ones I know of below. I know that there were a lot, so there may be some missing. Just make a post or pm me and I'll add you if I missed you. No particular order. I just went through the first 11 pages of threads in the development subforum.
punk.kaos
Conap
tazzpatriot
CondemnedSoul
workshed
jcase
MongooseHelix
CPCookieMan
gnarlyc
zach.xtr
Macrodroid
mjgdroid
r2DoesInc
Framework43
tenzomonk
.mak
SikYou
hakkeshou
spc_hicks09
Captainkrtek
toastcfh
hector93
bftb0
scary alien
T.C.P
...and also, thanks to the resident moderator, mrkite38 for having kept the peace, as well as our new moderator, andyharney
And to you devs, don't be afraid to make yourselves known again in this thread. I want to edit the OP and name every one of you guys
champdr0id said:
I got this idea while lurking on the rezound general forum, and a lot of people have really pissed off the amazing devs that offered their help to bring out the most out of the phone. Yeah, it might be a little late to be making this, but with the Eris being my first phone, the community here has pretty well taken care of each other and the developers stuck with us, at least, until they got a newer phone and moved on. My experience in the rezound forum has been a little less than savory, especially in the last few weeks. All of the trolls and wannabe heroes that tell the trolls off have made me remember and miss the good old days here. It's been too damn long, and these devs deserve a thread where we kiss their asses (no sarcasm) To all the devs that ever worked on the Eris, thank you for all of your hard work.
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The trolls are insane lol. No place like this community was for sure
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CS, I must say I miss seeing your name as an OP, but I see you got Recognized Developer now. Congrats, bro! I can't believe this my first time seeing that title underneath your name.
as for trolls, man, the rezound forum just got a third moderator because of all the trolling. there's so much hating going on over there. makes me miss the good times here where everyone got along and could make and take a joke.
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CS, I must say I miss seeing your name as an OP, but I see you got Recognized Developer now. Congrats, bro! I can't believe this my first time seeing that title underneath your name.
as for trolls, man, the rezound forum just got a third moderator because of all the trolling. there's so much hating going on over there. makes me miss the good times here where everyone got along and could make and take a joke.
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Thank you ... I haven't looked in the Rezound threads but I've heard its pretty tough there at times. I've found though, that instead of trying to be defensive with them, just call them out, let them know you really don't care and tell them to f-off .... They run back into hiding with their tail between there legs haha.
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CondemnedSoul said:
Thank you ... I haven't looked in the Rezound threads but I've heard its pretty tough there at times. I've found though, that instead of trying to be defensive with them, just call them out, let them know you really don't care and tell them to f-off .... They run back into hiding with their tail between there legs haha.
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well our newest mod just started a big thread cleanup project. one thread at a time is gonna be locked, then stripped of the irrelevance and hate posts. ha it's about time
I know you're looking. Come on and post! So far it looks like a pm gone public ha
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Thanks as well. This forum introduced me to the whole rooting experience and allowed me to keep using this phone long past what I would have put up with if I had to remain stock.
A a developer I know the troubles with any project and appreciate all the efforts.
Unfortunately I dropped the phone the last week and screen died, so I had to do a quick upgrade. Though about he Rezound but ended up with the LG Spectrum. Nice screen, rooted, but not much in the way of ROM's. Have to wait until ICS comes out.
Again thanks folks.
****ing right. It was a little more then a tear ago I stumbled upon this place and took took the plunge to root my Droid Eris, knowing that I was running 2.1 and would never see anything higher then that cuz the Eris was already at end of life. Then boom rooted unlocked and running gin-tazz. I've been hooked ever sense. Now mongoose is still putting work into this device running 4.0 haha amazing. Thank you all very much
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I'd like to see bftb0's name listed up top.
There's so many things he's done for the Eris community, both here and over at AndroidForums, it would be a crime to not have his member name listed for posterity along with all of the other fine folks you listed above.
He is, without question, one of the most knowledgeable folks to have ever posted here at XDA and many, many folks are indebted to him for his help (me included ).
Cheers!
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I'd like to see bftb0's name listed up top.
There's so many things he's done for the Eris community, both here and over at AndroidForums, it would be a crime to not have his member name listed for posterity along with all of the other fine folks you listed above.
He is, without question, one of the most knowledgeable folks to have ever posted here at XDA and many, many folks are indebted to him for his help (me included ).
Cheers!
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Done, and I added you too. I forgot about your modified recovery that didn't rely on the trackball to be used. I thank you, good sir! That recovery came in handy when my trackball started getting really bad.
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Some forums go overboard with pinned threads, or at least it's overwhelming how many there are. There aren't that many in this section. What does everyone else feel about if this should be pinned or not? I do.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Some forums go overboard with pinned threads, or at least it's overwhelming how many there are. There aren't that many in this section. What does everyone else feel about if this should be pinned or not? I do.
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you really think that? i guess i could PM mrkite and ask him to sticky it. anyone else alright with that?
edit: just sent the mod a pm. we'll see what happens
The eris was my second android phone after I left T-Mobile and my G1. This community has been incredible. I would also like to thank DS36. He was always willing to help out noobs like myself and his tweak thread was pretty awesome. This really has been the best community I've seen here. I miss the good ole days of kaos froyo and gingertazz. Thanks to all the devs that made the eris awesome. And thanks to jcase for making it easy to root my kindle too.
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I miss this forum, it was peaceful n has awesome devs, i have the rezound n holy crap it gets crazy over there ha I dont even post, just read haha. But I wanna say Thanks to all the devs, ive had some awesome themes on my eris
I miss this forum a lot. We still haven't got s-off figured out for the HTC One S. It's pretty sparse over there.
But man, back in the day this place was humming all day every day. Workshed made it a beautiful phone. Even compared to the phone I have now, it seems like it flew. I know that's just the nostalgia talking, but I don't care. GSB is a great rom.
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Thanks again devs and mods ! :good:
I still use my Eris (and tazz's rom) every day as my primary phone !
im still running around here lol trying to get jb running,,,think my eris has finaaly died almost,if anyone has an extra,pm me and ill do what i can for awhile ,,thanx champ :laugh:
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And to you devs, don't be afraid to make yourselves known again in this thread. I want to edit the OP and name every one of you guys
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Ummmm... Me
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T.C.P said:
Ummmm... Me
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Done
and done. :highfive:
the thread is stickied!
Gotta throw some love out to you guys. We don't have alot of developers but we got some good ones, and good members too. A couple weeks ago I was ready to cut my losses with the Flyer, but now I'm pretty content on keeping it. My phone on the other hand, the whole community has gone nuts, and declared mutiny against the mods lol. Nice to see we can all get along here and work to make this device better
nothing better like this, after a trip downhill with DG
i still like my Flyer and community will probably remain, just look at the Folio100 which started from nothing and they got pretty a 100% working ICS without even Toshiba helping, all because of XDA community and the support.
due to the different opinions of the mods, you will see one section where users get banned, another one where mods are promoting their devs, and a third pushing for gpl rules and another where they do not care. mods are just people, they can easily mess up the sections, but as long as its kept in other sections we are happy
im personally quite happy with our mods in this section
This is all for fun, I think sometimes people lose sight of it
Yeah no complaints about our mods. Honestly I dunno what's going on in the vivid section, I don't care to be part of it I know that. Thankfully its a good phone on stock because it's an all out war zone over there and pretty soon I'm certain development will cease as all the developers leave. I didn't make this thread to rat out anybody just saying it really puts our community in perspective
Really its the best xda forum I've been a part of. As nice as all the development on the captivate was it was almost overwhelming. You had probably 4 or 5 varieties of cm7 available, 2 or 3 ics roms in development, and a 100 modified stock roms. So you pretty much had to become a crack flasher to find out what was best for you and forget getting to know anyone.
We have a device that was a flop business wise and we were left for dead on a crappy honeycomb update. We all have our spats from time to time but everyone is pretty cool here and trys to help each other out to get the best flyer experience possible.
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Indeed! We're a small community but those tend to be the best!
Thanks to everyone, especially Cor-Master for posting this! Woke me up with a
\\Carved into this thread with my RAZR//
http://android-gz.com
Yeah. I believe in this.
Wishing us all great times ahead!
Hard to say considering there are more then 50 forums on xda.
Go take a look at the Tmobile G1 aka HTC Dream. Those of you that know that forum know what Im talking about.
The G1 had ICS before 95% of the phones
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It's not about the forum with the most roms im talking just great community in general which is what we have. And remember we're working blind with this device. My captivate benefited from sharing identical hardware with the Google flagship, we have the desire hd, one v, and well that's about it, not to mention no tablets that share the hardware so ics almost has to come from scratch. Not to mention my Captivate had entire teams of people working in ics roms. The stuff our few developers have accomplished is nothing short of incredible.
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wyldkard said:
Hard to say considering there are more then 50 forums on xda.
Go take a look at the Tmobile G1 aka HTC Dream. Those of you that know that forum know what Im talking about.
The G1 had ICS before 95% of the phones
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Ordinary people are countless. Special people are very few.
We are those special people.
You know...we have the best tablet out there. I have a Blackbery Playbook with os 2.1 and a viewsonic gtab with ics. And, I hate these tablets. Rarely use them.
I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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the more the merrier
its a damn good phone all we need is s-off and let the good times roll
newtoroot said:
I wanted to stop in and get your opinions on the device and if you guys would like to see me here or not... The rezound forum is to immature for me... I want to get a device that all devs will work together to better and not be childish about... Some of you know me some don't some might like and some might not, just give me your thoughts
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i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
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i thought you were switching carriers
and fwiw there arent many other devs to work with (small community)
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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Still trying to figure out my next move I'm getting opinions from everywhere... I'm not just jumping in a device like I usually do... So we will see. And I know all about the small community all vzw devices are small anymore
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well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
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well best of luck with w/e decision ya make
andy and i are about the only people currently that have the phone in hand and work on it
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Yea I just talked to Andy on gtalk before I posted here...
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I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
:good::good:
Of course we want you here.
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andybones said:
I think anyone with dev skills should get the phone,
BUT
I don't want this turning into the Rezound forums.
there is NO need for 4 ppl to put out THE SAME EXACT ROM with different "dev tweaks" a.k.a spent 5 mins to change it up to get a ROM posted because ppl like my work.
my goal for this forum is to inform the people.
inform the people who do the REAL work.
the REAL dev work and putting in the hours of time.
we also don't need 2 ROMs that are the exact same thing.
like I told newt and anyone else who wants the phone the more the merrier, but I am going to do EVERYTHING in my power to stop this community to turning into the Rezound, and I think I have enough ppl to support that.
I left apple because Android is open and shares.
I hope that this commmunity continues to ROCK!
I don't want any beef between Devs, trying to out do each other making the SAME ROM, give or take a mod or two different, let's worl together and produce something that is killer.
I left the Rezound a long time ago for a very good reason, way before the inc4 was on horizon, i even bought an inc2 back to 3g i hated that community so bad.
so far it seems this is like the inc2 on steriods!
let's hope it stays that way!
:good::good:
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I am with you on this. Right now I am wanting to create a stock rom that is odexed still but yet has the color scheme of ICS. And of course as S-Off becomes available I will be willing to add more to it as well. I just think that as long as we work together instead of competing with each other we can have some solid ROMS that people will want to use as the daily driver instead of flashing every three days.
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I see this as a great phone with lots of potential. I too am looking for a semi-stock (i.e. sense-based) daily driver that will suit my needs/wants. So far, what I've seen is that this (currently small) community has been extremely cooperative and respectful.
Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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Howdy Newt! Loved your work in the past on other devices...would be an honor having you here man. Crossing my fingers hoping you pick up this phone
This community is awesome, you won't regret it. I don't even like to think about the rezound community any more...gives me chills...
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Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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i hear ya, just at present there is no one to work with
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Well for those of you that know me I don't really do stock roms... I'll build one with all the goodies, but where I come in is when a new device is leaked with a version of sense or ics that we will never see I make sure we do... Porting roms is my thing its what I'm good at and what I enjoy... Everyone wants the next big thing. I myself don't mind sharing at all where I have a problem is when someone uses my work or my whole Rom without permission or credit or if I share with them and the favor is not returned that's the problem I have in the rezound forum and a couple other forums in the past
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I do remember some of your great work. Some of them found a home on my OG Dinc for a while. As such, I feel I should clarify my "semi-stock" statement. Your "Optimized Shift" and "Incredible Sensation" ROMs could be included in my in my "semi-stock" comment - You take the best/newest from various sources (leaks, other "newer" phones) and make them work seamlessly within the target device. If I'm using the wrong terminology, please feel free to correct me as I certainly did not mean to offend. I too would be very happy if you were to pick up one of these phones!
So, I've been playing with the nexus4 for a couple months now. Having a device that's officially supported is nice, and there's definitely no shortage of aosp roms. I don't particularly miss sense, but what I do miss is this dev/user community.
The devs that remain here are incredibly patient and ridiculously helpful compared to what I've been dealing with in the n4 section.. The rootbox dev actually closed his thread because people were reporting bugs and asking for support with a flawed release. It was unbelievable to me. Then I found out that it's not uncommon for devs to release a Rom just to have their name on something..
So, from the perspective of "newer and better things", dev support makes a huuuuge difference in the user experience. Thank you to all the devs here for sticking it out and helping this community thrive. All the roms in the world couldn't make up for that. You are all truly invaluable to the android experience, and I hope the users here never take that for granted.
Thanks again,
Dan
P.S- I'm aware that I probably didn't need my own thread for this.. But I just had to pop that cherry .
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Helpful information to share, at least I think so. The lack of love the Rez has gotten from Big Red makes me leery about buying a third HTC phone(started with the Incredible). I am considering Nexus for the next purchase, or even seeing if the iPhone is all its cracked up to be! (blasphemy, I know). I do love the Devs that have stuck it out though. And it's good to hear from someone who's gone elsewhere...
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Its weird how different the forums are for different devices. Everyone is so chill on the galaxy nexus section but the nexus 4 section is really uptight.
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blackhand1001 said:
Its weird how different the forums are for different devices. Everyone is so chill on the galaxy nexus section but the nexus 4 section is really uptight.
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I agreed. Of all of the forums I've been a part of, this one is by far the most chill. Seems like the VZW GSIII forums can be really uptight sometimes, and the thunderbolt forums are just... Awful now. It's like anarchy there.
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This forum section is like the droid incredible one.....well considering most people on here came from the incredible its kind of expected. Everyone, for the most part, treats each other with respect and acts like a community
I can accept failure but I can't accept not trying.
+1 to that. Our devs rock