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I have a Sony Live Walkman that I bought without any phone company in between. (Sorry my English doesn't help, don't know the exact term for that).
I checked, and it says that it is allowed to unlock bootloader.
But my question is, what is the benefit in my case? I don't have any garbage from any company loaded on my phone, the loader image is from Sony.
I can't grasp really well why is there the need to unlock bootloader. I'm new to Sony, I just had a LG - and the only concern was to ROOT and nothing else.
My Sony is rooted already. Do I need to unlock bootloader? (I'm just repeating myself a lot, lol) - and let's supossed I do unlock it: what happens? what new things I can/cannot do/break/etc?
Thanks a lot in advance for any info you could provide me, I learnt a lot in these last months, and with this Sony things are.... different....
Kisses
Unlocking bootloader lets you install custom kernels and ROMs. If you do it via official way, you lose your guarantee and your DRM keys, that means you will not be able to use TrackID and some other little features. If you patch it via unofficial way (test point method) you lose nothing. Anyway, if you don't intend to change your ROM, don't unlock it
Sorry that I'm a bit slow , but what is the "unofficial way" to do it?
I don't plan to install any custom ROM, but would like to try some new Kernel - and I believe I have to unlock bootloader for that?
I managed to root without unlock it, I wish I could flash a new kernel the same way
Unfortunately, you can't flash custom kernels without unlocking the bootloader. Check THIS thread, you'll find useful information
Well the unofficial way will allow you to keep your drm information and you will be able to keep using the track id app. here is a video of the method you need to follow to unlock it the unofficial way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgYAZoqsk9E, the video it's from fast gsm but it is the basic procedure of the test point method the only difference it's the software you will use and of course that it is free.
Thanks guys, very useful info. Just one last thing, cause one of your responses confused me:
The official method will let me flash Kernel
the UN official method won't
is that right?
Thanks again, promise I'll read all those articles now.
any method will let you flash a custom kernel the only difference is that using the official method you will lose your drm (digital rights management) for protected music, the usage of the track id app and any way of officially update your phone (over the air, ppc or sus) and using the unofficial way (test point method) you will keep the drm, track id and you will be able to update your phone using ppc or sus.
ginryu said:
any method will let you flash a custom kernel the only difference is that using the official method you will lose your drm (digital rights management) for protected music, the usage of the track id app and any way of officially update your phone (over the air, ppc or sus) and using the unofficial way (test point method) you will keep the drm, track id and you will be able to update your phone using ppc or sus.
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Perfectly clear.
Thanks a bunch!
Perfectly welcome!
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
Did official method also.
It is much more simple, just on the computer.
You will loose the track id feature, never used it anyway.
ChicaAndroid said:
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
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Lol... I just tried via test point method, and you know what? Only thing I couldn't do is remove that damn layer covering the test point...
I gave up u.u
ChicaAndroid said:
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
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do it if u really use it atmost.
i think u wish to install custom kernel right?? but not custom rom!! most of the custom kernels support only custom roms only few support stock.
well at the end it's up to you but the test point it's not really that complicated i did it with a paperclip jejeje
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well at the end it's up to you but the test point it's not really that complicated i did it with a paperclip jejeje
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I'm sure of that... but I haven't found a way to uncover the test point yet, lol
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
Feanor88 said:
I'm sure of that... but I haven't found a way to uncover the test point yet, lol
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The trick is to use a hair dryer to take out the back stick (under the battery) and then you will find the tp I posted a video before.
ChicaAndroid said:
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
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Girl I think I told you before that you can pm if you needed anything right?
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The trick is to use a hair dryer to take out the back stick (under the battery) and then you will find the tp I posted a video before.
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Mmm... Ill try
But does it return to its place once I've finished, or will I have to use glue?
I know, weird question
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Mmm... Ill try
But does it return to its place once I've finished, or will I have to use glue?
I know, weird question
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Nah it's not weird i was felling the same way but no you don't have to use glue it will stick back alone, just do it with ease ok??
ChicaAndroid said:
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
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its for u... test point method with detailed discription and video.. go with this LINK
hi
i have just got this phone
android : 4.0.4
Sense : 4.1
Software Version : 2.13.651.1.710RD
SDK API : 4.24
baseband : 1.12.11.0809
build : 2.13.651.1.CL99866
kernel : 3.0.8-01680-gb6402b4
and the immediate thing i noticed is how much low usable memory it has
so clearly i wanna install custom roms on this phone
but regAWMOD method isnt working at all , never goes beyond first step.
OR
i can live with just rooting and completely debloating the stock romn as much as possible.
Plz consider me a total noob as i am by and large from samsung ;P so fastboot , bootloaders and stuff is uknown to me
so now i want to either debloat the stock rom or root it with some simple method and may be unlock the bootloader as well, on my own tried the search button but stuff seemed pretty confusing to me as this is my First HTC
any help would be appreciated.
thanks
lord dredd said:
hi
i have just got this phone Version : 2.13.651.1.710RD
and the immediate thing i noticed is how much low usable memory it has
so clearly i wanna install custom roms on this phone
but regAWMOD method isnt working at all , never goes beyond first step.
OR
i can live with just rooting and completely debloating the stock romn as much as possible.
so now i want to root it with some simple method and may be unlock the bootloader as well, on my own tried the search button but stuff seemed pretty confusing to me as this is my First HTC
any help would be appreciated.
thanks
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www.htcdev.com will get it unlocked then you need to flash twrp recovery and super user
flash recovery first then SU
btw that is the latest twrp v2.3.1.0
i donno
the unlock_code.bin isnt writing to the phone
always failing somehow
lord dredd said:
i donno
the unlock_code.bin isnt writing to the phone
always failing somehow
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hmmmm it's been a while since I have done it
You can try the regaw mod it's kinda hit and miss with the software version you have It's all automated and that's what I used but like I said it was a while ago
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Thanks mate
got it unlocked by downloading the sdk anew
i feel the three files needed in unlocking are either outdated or somehow corrupt thats why the process was failing initially when i was using files from regaws application.
so now i am unlocked
what next kind sir !!!
lord dredd said:
Than ks mate
got it unlocked by downloading the sdk anew
i feel the three files needed in unlocking are either outdated or somehow corrupt thats why the process was failing initially.
so now i am unlocked
what next kind sir !!!
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do you know how to use a cmd window?
not really , but can follow the instructions fast
dont really know all the commands though
lord dredd said:
not really , but can follow the instructions fast
dont really know all the commands though
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You said you have sdk installed on your PC? why don't you just PM me it will probablly be easier
bigdaddy619 said:
You said you have sdk installed on your PC? why don't you just PM me it will probablly be easier
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sure
just did
dl this instead same file just different name will make it easier to explain what I'm talking about
bigdaddy619 said:
dl this instead same file just different name will make it easier to explain what I'm talking about
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ok downloaded this one as well :_)
right the status is that i have been able to unlock the bootloader
how to root the phone now ?
Maybe a good idea is to list the steps you used as to help others with this.
Yes I will be doing that for sure.
Thanks a bunch
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lord dredd said:
Yes I will be doing that for sure.
Thanks a bunch
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
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You are very welcome my friend just edit your first post with your guide
is the guide coming soon for this ? my girl just got a replacement device and i 2 am trying to get rooted and on a custom rom !!
Hi,
I just rooted my S3 JB 4.1.2 (XXELKC) so what is next?
Any recommendation to make use of all the benefits of Rooting
You can Install Adfree, Go Backup or Titanium backup and make a full backup of your data, First go to Recovery (CWM) make a full system backup.
After that you may wish to try some Custom roms, CrDroid or Wanamlite or Foxhound they are very good ROMS.
If you do not know what for are you rooting your phone - do not do it.
Most likely, your base benefit will be:-
- loss of stability due to overclocking;
- loss of functionality due to app freezing in TB;
- worse case scenario: phone brick.
sorry mate but your post looks like:
I just have removed all the fuses in my house, and I replaced it with rigid cable, so what should I do next?
If you do not know what for are you rooting your phone - do not do it.
As the man says root does nothing .
You root for a reason and not if you have no reason .
You would be far better off reading the basics in the stickies before trying to do what you know nothing about and risking a bricked phone .
jje
First Phone I rooted was the the t-mobile G1. I had no idea what I was doing at the time... We all have to start somewhere...
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You can install apps like adaway or such as stated above. I just want to tell you one thing. Naturally you will be curious to use custom ROMs like Ultima (it's really cool) or such. But before trying each different ROM have a Full Wipe.
May take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911726
ad blocking can be done without rooting https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adblockplus.android&hl=en
habibalby said:
Hi,
I just rooted my S3 JB 4.1.2 (XXELKC) so what is next?
Any recommendation to make use of all the benefits of Rooting
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Use Google my friend. Lots of bennies but I agree with JJE. Best to know why and what for.. before doing anything
Also please in the future ask Questions in the Q&A section.
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Thank you all for your replies. My main reason to root to try different apps that require rooting. I don't think anyone when started rooting his/her device knows everything and what to do without referring to some help from forums of reading somewhere.
habibalby said:
Thank you all for your replies. My main reason to root to try different apps that require rooting. I don't think anyone when started rooting his/her device knows everything and what to do without referring to some help from forums of reading somewhere.
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Sorry, but... actually I was acting contrary to that. I rooted my SGS two years ago first time to freeze/uninstall bloatware and to ban some apps from net usage, or to limit its net usage to WiFi only (by the use of Titanium Backup and DroidWall, respectively).
Unfortunately, DroidWall needs the root all time while running, otherwise, I'd unroot device as soon as I finished cleaning.
spamtrash said:
Sorry, but... actually I was acting contrary to that. I rooted my SGS two years ago first time to freeze/uninstall bloatware and to ban some apps from net usage, or to limit its net usage to WiFi only (by the use of Titanium Backup and DroidWall, respectively).
Unfortunately, DroidWall needs the root all time while running, otherwise, I'd unroot device as soon as I finished cleaning.
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I first rooted my LG GT540 so that I could flash a CM7 port, best choice I ever made.
Now I use it for Titanium, root explorers, adfree, getRIL , fasterGPS, multi window control and to obsessively flash roms mainly.
If anyone has problems and cannot root Lollipop or Marshmallow then I can help. Please ask here.
Oh, is achieving root possible now without unlocking the bootloader? If it's true, that's nice to hear.
I've already lost my DRM stuff, but please enlighten us.
inkyadrian said:
If anyone has problems and cannot root Lollipop or Marshmallow then I can help. Please ask here.
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If you do have a way please post a tutorial here. That's the point of an open community like XDA. If you don't (or not willing to post), I don't see the point of this thread.
Seems like a placeholder thread to me. And as mentioned by @Stevethegreat pointless
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3 negative comments in answer to my post; is this what I get when I openly offer help?
I have my DRM backed up as 1.ta and 2.ta. All I have to do is re-lock the bootloader and the DRM partitions will be active again.
I'll take my offer of help elsewhere; end of thread for me.
Thanks
inkyadrian said:
3 negative comments in answer to my post; is this what I get when I openly offer help?
I have my DRM backed up as 1.ta and 2.ta. All I have to do is re-lock the bootloader and the DRM partitions will be active again.
I'll take my offer of help elsewhere; end of thread for me.
Thanks
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Well, I don't think the comments in the thread neither have malicious intent nor being rude. Just that, if you have a way to back up the TA partition and don't mind helping, why not post a tutorial in the thread so as to help out as many people as possible. I mean this is XDA right? We should help each other as a community!
And, in the same boat as jelbo, with my TA partition already wiped, so not much for me too.
Cheers!
They wasn't meant to be rude I just think that there are other threads where this could have been incorporated eg http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3343394
The issue is forums get harder to navigate when there is clutter and since I don't see many moderator activity in newer Sony threads well ya'know
Apologies if my post was offensive I seem to be p**sing many people off here atm
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I think this guy next Luca todesco who post photoshopped screenshot as a prove of getting jailbreak but of course without any sharing,.
Guys, do not get fooled by this old trick. In order to backup drm keys, you need to hack dm verity, and Sony ric what is the same hard as getting jailbreak for IOS...
Edit 1, very interesting, this genius was be able to hack almost unbreakable system, but he can't figure out on how to unlock the tablet. Bravo...:good:
alex009988 said:
I think this guy next Luca todesco who post photoshopped screenshot as a prove of getting jailbreak but of course without any sharing,.
Guys, do not get fooled by this old trick. In order to backup drm keys, you need to hack dm verity, and Sony ric what is the same hard as getting jailbreak for IOS...
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What screenshot? I don't see one here.
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zippy01 said:
What screenshot? I don't see one here.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 using XDA Labs
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Indeed, even no screenshot. What I really meant with Luca todesco is that he is pseudo-hacker who tells he is able to hack any version of highly secure ios system by wasting a couple of hours of his time whereas pangu and taig and some other teams can't make it for months.
And the same man is here. Who asserts he got backuped original drm keys on one bare word...
It seems I've backed-up my TA but cannot use it with a custom ROM. I can re-install a stock ROM and then re-install the TA, apparently. I did back-up the TA before I unlocked the bootloader though. Perhaps some of/all of you know how to do this. Sorry for the confusion if there was any.
riveria said:
Oh, is achieving root possible now without unlocking the bootloader? If it's true, that's nice to hear.
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Not to my knowledge.
riveria said:
Well, I don't think the comments in the thread neither have malicious intent nor being rude. Just that, if you have a way to back up the TA partition and don't mind helping, why not post a tutorial in the thread so as to help out as many people as possible. I mean this is XDA right? We should help each other as a community!
And, in the same boat as jelbo, with my TA partition already wiped, so not much for me too.
Cheers!
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Does not installing a stock ROM put the TA partition back?
Just tried re-locking the bootloader and replacing the TA on the rooted machine; soft-brick comes to mind! So, I've backed up the TA before rooting but cannot use the TA on a rooted machine. Wonderful! Maybe you all\some of you knew that already. I'll keep my mouth shut in future.
inkyadrian said:
Does not installing a stock ROM put the TA partition back?
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From what I understand, unlocking the bootloader wipes the TA partition with no way of you restoring it unless you have some way to back it up. I mentioned rooting without unlocking the bootloader in the first comment was because I had the impression that backing up the TA partition requires root, so maybe I was wrong.
Installing a stock ROM doesn't put the TA partition back, again from my limited understanding from reading through some of the threads, so once you unlocked the bootloader, it's gone forever, even if you install a fresh stock ROM.
It seems that I've unlocked the bootloader and backed-up the TA at the same time, using Flashtool. Root wasn't got because I could not flash the custom kernel because it needed an unlocked bootloader. So, I've got the TA backed-up from the original stock ROM but cannot re-install it unless I've got a stock ROM installed.
How can I use apps that utilize SafetyNet on SamPWND root? I really want to use it but there are several apps that I use that I can't use if I root that I really want/need to use, is there any way around this?
Thanks
Simple answer, you can't. It's a system level root. We need an unlocked bootloader to trick it.
Saythis said:
Simple answer, you can't. It's a system level root. We need an unlocked bootloader to trick it.
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Ah rip. :/