If anyone has problems and cannot root Lollipop or Marshmallow then I can help. Please ask here.
Oh, is achieving root possible now without unlocking the bootloader? If it's true, that's nice to hear.
I've already lost my DRM stuff, but please enlighten us.
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If anyone has problems and cannot root Lollipop or Marshmallow then I can help. Please ask here.
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If you do have a way please post a tutorial here. That's the point of an open community like XDA. If you don't (or not willing to post), I don't see the point of this thread.
Seems like a placeholder thread to me. And as mentioned by @Stevethegreat pointless
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3 negative comments in answer to my post; is this what I get when I openly offer help?
I have my DRM backed up as 1.ta and 2.ta. All I have to do is re-lock the bootloader and the DRM partitions will be active again.
I'll take my offer of help elsewhere; end of thread for me.
Thanks
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3 negative comments in answer to my post; is this what I get when I openly offer help?
I have my DRM backed up as 1.ta and 2.ta. All I have to do is re-lock the bootloader and the DRM partitions will be active again.
I'll take my offer of help elsewhere; end of thread for me.
Thanks
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Well, I don't think the comments in the thread neither have malicious intent nor being rude. Just that, if you have a way to back up the TA partition and don't mind helping, why not post a tutorial in the thread so as to help out as many people as possible. I mean this is XDA right? We should help each other as a community!
And, in the same boat as jelbo, with my TA partition already wiped, so not much for me too.
Cheers!
They wasn't meant to be rude I just think that there are other threads where this could have been incorporated eg http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3343394
The issue is forums get harder to navigate when there is clutter and since I don't see many moderator activity in newer Sony threads well ya'know
Apologies if my post was offensive I seem to be p**sing many people off here atm
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I think this guy next Luca todesco who post photoshopped screenshot as a prove of getting jailbreak but of course without any sharing,.
Guys, do not get fooled by this old trick. In order to backup drm keys, you need to hack dm verity, and Sony ric what is the same hard as getting jailbreak for IOS...
Edit 1, very interesting, this genius was be able to hack almost unbreakable system, but he can't figure out on how to unlock the tablet. Bravo...:good:
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I think this guy next Luca todesco who post photoshopped screenshot as a prove of getting jailbreak but of course without any sharing,.
Guys, do not get fooled by this old trick. In order to backup drm keys, you need to hack dm verity, and Sony ric what is the same hard as getting jailbreak for IOS...
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What screenshot? I don't see one here.
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What screenshot? I don't see one here.
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Indeed, even no screenshot. What I really meant with Luca todesco is that he is pseudo-hacker who tells he is able to hack any version of highly secure ios system by wasting a couple of hours of his time whereas pangu and taig and some other teams can't make it for months.
And the same man is here. Who asserts he got backuped original drm keys on one bare word...
It seems I've backed-up my TA but cannot use it with a custom ROM. I can re-install a stock ROM and then re-install the TA, apparently. I did back-up the TA before I unlocked the bootloader though. Perhaps some of/all of you know how to do this. Sorry for the confusion if there was any.
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Oh, is achieving root possible now without unlocking the bootloader? If it's true, that's nice to hear.
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Not to my knowledge.
riveria said:
Well, I don't think the comments in the thread neither have malicious intent nor being rude. Just that, if you have a way to back up the TA partition and don't mind helping, why not post a tutorial in the thread so as to help out as many people as possible. I mean this is XDA right? We should help each other as a community!
And, in the same boat as jelbo, with my TA partition already wiped, so not much for me too.
Cheers!
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Does not installing a stock ROM put the TA partition back?
Just tried re-locking the bootloader and replacing the TA on the rooted machine; soft-brick comes to mind! So, I've backed up the TA before rooting but cannot use the TA on a rooted machine. Wonderful! Maybe you all\some of you knew that already. I'll keep my mouth shut in future.
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Does not installing a stock ROM put the TA partition back?
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From what I understand, unlocking the bootloader wipes the TA partition with no way of you restoring it unless you have some way to back it up. I mentioned rooting without unlocking the bootloader in the first comment was because I had the impression that backing up the TA partition requires root, so maybe I was wrong.
Installing a stock ROM doesn't put the TA partition back, again from my limited understanding from reading through some of the threads, so once you unlocked the bootloader, it's gone forever, even if you install a fresh stock ROM.
It seems that I've unlocked the bootloader and backed-up the TA at the same time, using Flashtool. Root wasn't got because I could not flash the custom kernel because it needed an unlocked bootloader. So, I've got the TA backed-up from the original stock ROM but cannot re-install it unless I've got a stock ROM installed.
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Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? Does this affect the updates in any way? If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
The main benefit of rooting your phone is you can install any software you want, some apps need root permission, you can also customize UI, tweak performance, making a better battery life, etc.
on this device, you can relock it. If you doubt about your warranty, you can use the rooting with locked bootloader method. but you still need to relock if you want to claim your warranty in some cases. I hope you will not.
my advice is just use to your phone first, you enjoy with keyboard, texting, surfing on google play, bla bla bla. You will find the answer why you want to root or not.
I already know that I want to root my phone, the main reason is to get rid of the ads.
I'm just not sure, which is the preferred method of rooting it. I'm curious what's going to happen to future updates if I root the phone (some say, that every firmware unroots the phone).
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Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything.1. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? 2. Does this affect the updates in any way? 3. If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
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I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
My opinion:
Keep the BL locked, so you don't loose the DRM Keys, and follow the Root with BL Locked Guide to obtain Root Acess...
Unless you really want to have a tweaked kernel you wont need to Unlock the BL
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I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
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Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
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Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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gm007 said:
Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
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What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
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The advanced stock kernel is same as stock without overclocking,and default governor.
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So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
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So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
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Yes. Pretty much that.
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Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
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I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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elvirag said:
I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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Well, for starters, I'm only going to root the phone. After some time, I'll maybe consider trying other ROMs.
Any ROM can be used in Locked BL (rooted)?
Hey guys, You may have noticed that ive been posting a few posts here and there and I also have a YouTube Channel Which is JackHasAnLG
Im going to start making more Xperia Z Ultra videos soon, Ive already got this one
Just a quick Unboxing
Reviews, Custom Roms and more to come, let me know if theres anything in specific you want to see
J
Cool stuff, we need one!
shaolin95 said:
Cool stuff, we need one!
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Yay someone commented!
Anything in particular? Obviously got the Unboxing and benchmarks, hoping to get the Sony magnetic dock and I have a S Case for it
mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
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I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
hassanmahmood said:
I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
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Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
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I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
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Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
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Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
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I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
hassanmahmood said:
I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
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Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I dont see why sony make it so hard. I had a galaxy S3 beforehand, a nexus 4 and even my older LG 2X just plugged into a computer, USB debugging and a piece of software and that was it
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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First it depends on your desire. And how to receive root read the guide, the first post in this subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Why do you want/need root?
If you can answer that question; go for it.
I totally understand the need for root fot a lot of users.......that being said this is the first and only phone ive had in 5 years that I have not felt the need to root/unlock bootloader................................. YET!
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Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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We can't offer advice. If you need access to the root directory for any reason then you will need to...
If not then obviously leave it as is.
All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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Yep, because if one needs root, the question is... "What's the most recent / best method?"
My advise, don't worry about root until you need root access. I was doing fine without it until Sony decided to screw up sound enhancements on its latest software update. If you aren't on .136, my advice wait till kit Kat to make a decision on updating/rooting!:good:
Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.
I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.
To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.
This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.
As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.
-TheFixer
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Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.
I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.
To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.
This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.
As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.
-TheFixer
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Wimp
I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.
The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136
Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)
Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore
not to root because:
1. It has unremovable battery, so i don't want to have it died faster with all that plug/unplug ordeal
2. i got all the service that was offered at the time of purchase, i just want to enjoy it as long as i can
3. The stock ROM is enough for me
4. Helium/Carbon Backup is there to substitute TiBu
So each of the way is good in for some reason. For me the the urge to mod is dead if you are not rooted (obvious) but there are a lot of other ways to do a modding, for instance, do your own program might be a better approach to fill on your own needs. There are more than one ways to Rome anyway
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My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore
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Good one!!
rooting the latest is a pain. But i didnt start using my phone, till i had safely rooted it.
This is the only phone i havent rooted yet sincee the eclair era...no need.already powerful.smooth fast clear.nothing left to tweak n screw for me.best one yet.
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i dont root till Sony didnt released the last Firmware. If that gives me the Power to move Apps to SD the phone stays unrooted. If not i go for root, because of the size of my apps and because of the option Titanium Backup gives me
This is the only Android phone I have kept the stock ROM. I rooted it a couple of times but kept going back to the stable stock rom. The phone is naturally fast and smooth and has good memory and battery management as standard.
Need something else? then root.
Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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I think the main reason to root these days is to use Xposed. Sony stock roms+Xposed make a wonderful combination of features and stability.
Just to give an example, with Xposed you can have the features of (what used to be) Paranoid Android on a Sony stock rom.
This said, it is true that rooting .290/.136 firmwares may be a pain in the ass, but anyone that follows instructions carefully should be able to do it safely.
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blueether said:
Wimp
I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.
The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136
Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)
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Wimp I am when it comes to my primary work device I have lots of other older devices that I've hacked the crap out of (I can't count how many ROM's I've put on my GT7.7) and my Dell Streak wasn't even useful until I put a custom ROM it.
None of what you described above is something that I haven't done with other devices (But never with my current everyday primary device). That being said, My original statement still stands - there is no SIMPLE way to ROOT your phone and keep/backup the original config/partitions. My last 3 devices, I downloaded an App, clicked the button and whammo, Root.
Until I absolutely need it, I'll just stick with Stock/No-Root (That is of course unless someone creates a Whammo solution).
Thank you all for your response.
I have decidedto stick to the stock ROM for time being.
Once again I truly appreciate your response
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I love my shiney new Xperia Z2 - but I also miss my beloved Nexus 5 and Pure Android.
What features/abilities will I lose Rooting/Roming my Xperia? I remember on the Original Z that it screwed all the DRM stuff and you lost your fancy camera and other abilities.
I am used to using TWRP recovery and flashing at will without having to worry about ADB/Fastboot crap - is that Also still an issue with Xperias?
All opinions welcomed, flames and trolls - not so much
Thanks
I guess , I mean by rooting you should know your warranty is voided but I never heard of losing abilities to use certain apps or processes in fact it gives you access to more apps that require root for example some roms include very cool features that only the Z3 has them which you can never get on your Z2 unless you use custom roms ...
in short , if you know what you are doing while rooting and 100% sure you know what you are doing isnt going to harm your device adding to that that you are a root loving guy who likes customizing his phone then yes sure go ahead in fact its so cool to root! But !
If any of the above is answered negatively by you then dont root
PS : there are some root methods that are so simple that dont require any advanced knowledge you just follow easy step by step 8 minutes video on how to root . You can check in google (How to root xperia z2) and you will get it done easily
simple as that
hope I helped you
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I guess , I mean by rooting you should know your warranty is voided but I never heard of losing abilities to use certain apps or processes in fact it gives you access to more apps that require root for example some roms include very cool features that only the Z3 has them which you can never get on your Z2 unless you use custom roms ...
in short , if you know what you are doing while rooting and 100% sure you know what you are doing isnt going to harm your device adding to that that you are a root loving guy who likes customizing his phone then yes sure go ahead in fact its so cool to root! But !
If any of the above is answered negatively by you then dont root
simple as that
hope I helped you
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I'm no noob to rooting/flashing phones, been at it for years - I'm just worried about Xperia-specific things like is it worth losing my DRM keys?
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I'm no noob to rooting/flashing phones, been at it for years
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Noob to searching
m2geek said:
I'm just worried about Xperia-specific things like is it worth losing my DRM keys?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743240
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Noob to searching
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743240
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Haha I'm a serial "ask questions" rather than search, usually can't find what I am looking for when I search
o0 Matt 0o said:
Noob to searching
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743240
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Also, Looks like I won't be flashing any roms anytime soon
m2geek said:
Also, Looks like I won't be flashing any roms anytime soon
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Hmm I gave you a bum steer. The link I quoted is relevant if you unlock your bootloader, not required for root. Rooting is easy there are heaps of guides. I'm sure you're aware, rooting will allow you to theme, customise and flash stock based roms, but you won't be able to flash cm or aosp or anything non-sony.
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madshark2009 said:
I guess , I mean by rooting you should know your warranty is voided
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Have you got a link for this? Even unlocking your bootloader, the Sony website says you may void your warranty. Not will, MAY. Anyway, root, backup ta partition. Anything goes wrong, restore ta partition and relock bootloader.
Just don't do stupid stuff like over volt your CPU or increase the CPU heat tolerance out anything like that.
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rooting is generaly safe
there are mods for xperias and there are mods for all devices, its often safest to install these ones
also root gives you controll, i dont think rooting voids your warranty but i have yet to re-read the new warrenty info
drm keys are only lost when unlocking your bootloader
and rooting is easily undoable so have a mess around with root apps or root access, root is somewhat more freedom and make sure when you do install something , its for locked bootloaders, xperias or all devices 4.0 and above
Envious_Data said:
rooting is generaly safe
there are mods for xperias and there are mods for all devices, its often safest to install these ones
also root gives you controll, i dont think rooting voids your warranty but i have yet to re-read the new warrenty info
drm keys are only lost when unlocking your bootloader
and rooting is easily undoable so have a mess around with root apps or root access, root is somewhat more freedom and make sure when you do install something , its for locked bootloaders, xperias or all devices 4.0 and above
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Warranty information from the Sony website. I'm not sure if it is a UK only thing as this is from the UK website. I would assume that it would be worldwide to prevent confusion.
Sony Warranty Document (linked above) said:
Nor does this warranty cover any failure of the Product due to accident, software or hardware modification or adjustment, or acts of God.
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gamer649 said:
Warranty information from the Sony website. I'm not sure if it is a UK only thing as this is from the UK website. I would assume that it would be worldwide to prevent confusion.
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the sony warrenty is international, so it should apply globaly to all devices or so im told by sony customer support
gamer649 said:
Warranty information from the Sony website. I'm not sure if it is a UK only thing as this is from the UK website. I would assume that it would be worldwide to prevent confusion.
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Yea I see what your saying but I sort of disagree. It states failures resulting from software changes, doesn't this mean if the failure is not from the software modification it is covered? Void means gone and I don't think that's the case.
E.g. You remove the heat threshold from the CPU and fry it = not covered.
Your microphone dies by its self = is covered.
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Yea I see what your saying but I sort of disagree. It states failures resulting from software changes, doesn't this mean if the failure is not from the software modification it is covered? Void means gone and I don't think that's the case.
E.g. You remove the heat threshold from the CPU and fry it = not covered.
Your microphone dies by its self = is covered.
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It could do, but as Sony are unable to ascertain what changes have been made / then unmade they could argue your mic failure was due to you fiddling with the gain. Hence the uncertainty, bear in mind with rooting simply flashing a stock tft removes evidence of tampering, whilst Sony know who has asked for an unlock code for their bootloader theoretically allowing them to decline warranty service even if you restore DRM keys and relock.
Rooting doesnt void your warranty as long as bootloader remains locked.....
There is a rootkit that properly root your z2 in less than a minute withouth unlocking the bootloader..and you can unroot anytime you decide to.
DRM keys are lost only after unlocking bootloader.
So lets root why a not? Root gives you control over everything, and if you mess up something you have backup in twrp so..
Thanks for all the replies and input guys
Think i'm just gonna leave it stock as long as tolerable and see if I can wait out Official lollipop builds before I do anything.
Learned the hardway last night not to delete the DCIM folder off the internal storage. Camera stopped working without a SD so had to factory reset lol.
NetSkill said:
So lets root why a not? Root gives you control over everything, and if you mess up something you have backup in twrp so..
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Because rooting compromises the security of your device, if the OP doesn't feel the need to root I'd say don't.
But what functionality is lost when the bootloader is unlocked (camera? audio? ), also, is it all gained back when drm is put back and relocked? ( if saved when rooted at beginning ofcourse )
Also, if my z2 says bootloader unlockable: NO.
Can I use the unofficial, easier, faster method to unlock it??
sidmuer said:
But what functionality is lost when the bootloader is unlocked (camera? audio? ), also, is it all gained back when drm is put back and relocked? ( if saved when rooted at beginning ofcourse )
Also, if my z2 says bootloader unlockable: NO.
Can I use the unofficial, easier, faster method to unlock it??
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Just x-reailty
I did a test
And if your bootloader isnt unlockable, you cant unlock it using any method
Info
m2geek said:
I love my shiney new Xperia Z2 - but I also miss my beloved Nexus 5 and Pure Android.
What features/abilities will I lose Rooting/Roming my Xperia? I remember on the Original Z that it screwed all the DRM stuff and you lost your fancy camera and other abilities.
I am used to using TWRP recovery and flashing at will without having to worry about ADB/Fastboot crap - is that Also still an issue with Xperias?
All opinions welcomed, flames and trolls - not so much
Thanks
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If you miss Nexus just go back to nexus
you can compare no phone with nexus in term of modification and ...
when you unlock bootloader and get root access on official firmware you won't lose any of official (Xperia) apps
But of course no xperia apps on custom rom unless find port of these apps
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Geeks Empire said:
If you miss Nexus just go back to nexus
you can compare no phone with nexus in term of modification and ...
when you unlock bootloader and get root access on official firmware you won't lose any of official (Xperia) apps
But of course no xperia apps on custom rom unless find port of these apps
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Very true about the Nexus - i'm am starting to miss it, bless its flashed like crazy heart
I'm not too worried about losing Xperia apps (I hate the album app, gimmie back the aosp gallery!) I was more concerned about Camera & display quality software stuff.
So they are getting root for locked bootloaders over in the Z3 forum. I imagine it would work for our phones, except that to do that someone with an already rooted device would need to provide the info they need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
BladeRunner said:
So they are getting root for locked bootloaders over in the Z3 forum. I imagine it would work for our phones, except that to do that someone with an already rooted device would need to provide the info they need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
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You should probably study up a little before posting
thegrants82 said:
You shoot probably study up a little before posting
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Do you a have a point or anything constructively to add?
BladeRunner said:
Do you a have a point or anything constructively to add?
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No but obviously neither do you on bootloaders and rooting.
thegrants82 said:
No but obviously neither do you on bootloaders and rooting.
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Do you understand what I mean by a catch-22?
BladeRunner said:
Do you understand what I mean by a catch-22?
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I understand your post but you don't know what your talking about.
thegrants82 said:
I understand your post but you don't know what your talking about.
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I would say that you don't understand my post. They have found a root exploit for the Z3 (or at least certain variants of it at this point) which is exactly what we z3v owners are looking for, however for the devs to make it work for our phones someone with an unlocked boot loader and root would have to supply them with the info they need. Quite obviously we don't have an unlocked boot loader to get root hence the catch-22
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I would say that you don't understand my post. They have found a root exploit for the Z3 (or at least certain variants of it at this point) which is exactly what we z3v owners are looking for, however for the devs to make it work for our phones someone with an unlocked boot loader and root would have to supply them with the info they need. Quite obviously we don't have an unlocked boot loader to get root hence the catch-22
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Good luck.
thegrants82 said:
Good luck.
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:what:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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That's the problem here. He has no idea.
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That's the problem here. He has no idea.
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apparently you haven't been following the thread. Those that are developing the root method need the adb output from someone that already has root. Some of the Z3 variants already had root by unlocking the bootloader.
1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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The root method they are working on is for locked bootloaders, they need the output from someone that previously achieved root by unlocking the bootloader. It is beneficial on Sony devices to have root without unlocking the bootloader so you can save your DRM keys/back up the TA partion. Also rooting without unlocking doesn't disable some on the camera functions.
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apparently you haven't been following the thread. Those that are developing the root method need the adb output from someone that already has root. Some of the Z3 variants already had root by unlocking the bootloader.
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Lol I had two members msg me about how to add you to an ignore list. Didn't know about that so good luck to you and please stop posting about topics that you know nothing about. If you are wanting a high post count then just welcome new members. Judging by your posts I don't think its a secret that other members already know your deal. Later on!
thegrants82 said:
Lol I had two members msg me about how to add you to an ignore list. Didn't know about that so good luck to you and please stop posting about topics that you know nothing about. If you are wanting a high post count then just welcome new members. Judging by your posts I don't think its a secret that other members already know your deal. Later on!
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It's pretty obvious that you are the one that just doesn't get it.
1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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not everyone would need to provide the adb output, just one person with the device. So, if by a miracle, one person had a z3v with an unlockable boot loader, rooted their phone and provided the adb output then they might be able to make the root tool work on the z3v's that have locked boot loaders, but since no one, afaik, has a z3v with an unlocked boot loader then we can't achieve root via the root tool. Thus the catch-22
BladeRunner said:
not everyone would need to provide the adb output, just one person with the device. So, if by a miracle, one person had a z3v with an unlockable boot loader, rooted their phone and provided the adb output then they might be able to make the root tool work on the z3v's that have locked boot loaders, but since no one, afaik, has a z3v with an unlocked boot loader then we can't achieve root via the root tool. Thus the catch-22
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Yeah I got the reference, if I had root so would everyone else here cause I would share it with everyone and claim the three thousand dollar bounty offered.
1linuxfreak said:
Yeah I got the reference, if I had root so would everyone else here cause I would share it with everyone and claim the three thousand dollar bounty offered.
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I suspect we won't have to worry about anyone collecting that bounty in the near future.
So I am npt that experienced when it comes to this stuff but im pretty sure verizon does NOT have an unlocked bootloader. I have the s4 and am looking into the z3v. I know people are still currently trying to break it. But the s4 can use towel root. Obviously its not that simple here since its not done yet. But seeing as this is still fairly new. They will have root sometime soon.
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If you had read the thread, there's no catch 22. The exploits they're leveraging were patched on the Z3v and TMo Z3 prior to release. It was stated multiple times.