Well guys, I'm having some scary thoughts about upgrading to a 5s from my s4. I really don't want to, but I am confused about the bootloader. I've searched the forums high and low for the information I've been trying to look for. Honestly, I was just wondering if the bootloader will eventually get unlocked.
Is it possible? Have the devs given up? Safestrap is amazing by the way. Using it right now with hyperdrive. I just haven't seen any chatter about it. I am no way complaining I am just lacking the information. I am having internal memory issues.
Some please ease our minds (and mine for that matter) about this situation. Please, steer me away from the 5s. I am hardcore android. Is the s4 worth keeping? Is anyone else going to (it have) replace the s4?
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I wouldnt get an iphone. Youll just look at it be like wow its just an iphone.. This sux.
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I wouldnt get an iphone. Youll just look at it be like wow its just an iphone.. This sux.
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True, but I heard from now on.. All of Verizon's phones bootloaders will be locked. Might as well try apple for the first time. I can always comes back. I'll miss it but man I just need some info.
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I dont know anything about Verizon phones but its completely up to you if you wanna try the iphone lol
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I recently switched from the iPhone 5 to the S4 because it was just an iPhone. I even enjoyed jailbreaking my iPhone and it wasn't all that great. No customization like what's allowed on android. Hope you choose to stay.
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But you can do just as much if not more on your stock s4 than the iphone. The iphone has no customization at all besides just switching your wallpaper.
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You guys all have a point. I might just upgrade the iPhone 5s and resell for cash and keep my s4. Either way this s4 is staying with me. Anyone know any news on the boot loader?
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Yeah man the iPhone 5S has nice features but I'm telling you it's not worth it. The iPhone is smoother but you lack on a lot of customization. Your iPhone will look exactly like anyone iPhone 4 out there and that's 3 generations old.
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Yeah. I understand. So is not safe to say the boot loader for the s4 won't see any hope? As in dead?
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What do you wanted an unlocked bootloader for??
This bootloader stuff has been so blown out of proportion that so many people are just going on the "locked bootloader blah blah" bandwagon. We just need another exploit, Hash is working on kexec.
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What do you wanted an unlocked bootloader for??
This bootloader stuff has been so blown out of proportion that so many people are just going on the "locked bootloader blah blah" bandwagon. We just need another exploit, Hash is working on kexec.
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lol so I can do whatever I want with my device. Others agree. Now, kexec. Can you explain what that is for me?
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lol so I can do whatever I want with my device. Others agree. Now, kexec. Can you explain what that is for me?
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Kexec is like a hijack of the kernel. It pretty much loads a custom kernel on top of the stock one.
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Aw, I see. That would be nice.
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Aw, I see. That would be nice.
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The main benefit of getting kexec support would be that people could flash aosp roms. As im sure you already know currently there is only support for touchwiz based roms on ss.
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The main benefit of getting kexec support would be that people could flash aosp roms. As im sure you already know currently there is only support for touchwiz based roms on ss.
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Yes. AOSP is a must. It would really help people with internal memory such as myself. Do you know if the boot loader itself is being worked on? Or are devs just exploiting it rather than fully unlocking it.
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Yes. AOSP is a must. It would really help people with internal memory such as myself. Do you know if the boot loader itself is being worked on? Or are devs just exploiting it rather than fully unlocking it.
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Pretty sure it isn't going to be unlocked. It never was for the S4 so it probably won't be.
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lol so I can do whatever I want with my device. Others agree. Now, kexec. Can you explain what that is for me?
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What do you mean by "whatever" you want? Install a ROM? Safestrap does that for you. Install a kernel? Hash is working on kexec.
I'm convinced most of the people complaining about the bootloader have no idea what they are talking about. You do realize that SS and kexec will be virtually grant you the same things an "unlocked" bootloader does.
Loki is another exploit on MDK devices that gives you the same capabilities, many people even think that the MDK has an unlocked bootloader, lmao.
Again I ask, what are you hoping to do with an unlocked bootloader that SS and kexec cannot do?
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What do you wanted an unlocked bootloader for??
This bootloader stuff has been so blown out of proportion that so many people are just going on the "locked bootloader blah blah" bandwagon. We just need another exploit, Hash is working on kexec.
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Whoa there cowboy. Well for one, it won't be unlocked. So there's the obvious one. I'm not complaining, so there's one problem lol. I am very aware of what safestrap is. I just wish we could replace stock ROM, so we could have some more internal memory. If you caught that. totally grateful. Was just wondering and looks like bootloader won't be getting unlocked. Man...
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Whoa there cowboy. Well for one, it won't be unlocked. So there's the obvious one. I'm not complaining, so there's one problem lol. I am very aware of what safestrap is. I just wish we could replace stock ROM, so we could have some more internal memory. If you caught that. totally grateful. Was just wondering and looks like bootloader won't be getting unlocked. Man...
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You asked for am honest opinion...I'm just letting you know. So you just wish to have more internal storage? You can try to flash a ROM on the stock rom slot.
It just seems like you have this obsession with the bootloader based on your threads created and the forum-wide PMs about the unlock petition.
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You asked for am honest opinion...I'm just letting you know. So you just wish to have more internal storage? You can try to flash a ROM on the stock rom slot.
It just seems like you have this obsession with the bootloader based on your threads created and the forum-wide PMs about the unlock petition.
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No, 16 is enough. But its really 8 or something because of the OS. Obsession with the boot loader? Dude I just want carriers to stop locking up the bootloaders to my devices that I pay for. Just because its locked doesn't mean I want it unlocked. Done with this I just wanted info and I got it so thanks I guess. petition has 250 sigs so pretty awesome.
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HTC is taking down websites with custom Roms for their device. Why, if they don't stop this it looks like I will be getting a nexus device next. Here's the article. http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-takes-down-rom-files-across-the-web-150757/ what are your guys opinions?
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I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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Ahh hell no this is not possible.
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I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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Unlocked as in on a different carrier not as in unlocked bootloader.
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Ndaoud360 said:
Ahh hell no this is not possible.
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Hell no is right! I'm just starting to love the concept of roms with add features.
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Hell no is right! I'm just starting to love the concept of roms with add features.
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I hope not, im trying to figure out how to unlock my dna now...
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I hope not, im trying to figure out how to unlock my dna now...
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Lol. Better do it before its to late.
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jonah1234 said:
HTC is taking down websites with custom Roms for their device. Why, if they don't stop this it looks like I will be getting a nexus device next. Here's the article. http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-takes-down-rom-files-across-the-web-150757/ what are your guys opinions?
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Calm down that's about RUU files not custom roms.... RUUs have typically been leaked anyway... Not a big deal or really a shock...
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Calm down that's about RUU files not custom roms.... RUUs have typically been leaked anyway... Not a big deal or really a shock...
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It says custom Roms too.
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jerrickdamon said:
I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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Unlocking your device yourself will be illegal but the carrier can still unlock it for you ( sim unlock not boot loader )
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People are getting upset about something they don't fully understand... This law is for unlocking the phone to bring to other carriers to use... not unlocking or rooting. and our phone comes factory unlocked so there's no reason to QQ here on the DNA forums...
I love the DNA and I hate to say it ... but if this is how it's going to be then my next phone will not be an HTC device. Their build quality and overall hardware is fantastic, but I find it ridiculous that they're going after dev's like this. I'd rather pick up a Galaxy S4 when it's released and unload my DNA if this is how they're going to treat their market/buyers.
Seems HTC didn't want prerelease leaked ruu's out which were obtained by illegal means as the main reason for the shutdown.
If we host a Sense 5 Rom, same thing might happen here I suppose.
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Seems HTC didn't want prerelease leaked ruu's out which were obtained by illegal means as the main reason for the shutdown.
If we host a Sense 5 Rom, same thing might happen here I suppose.
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Exactly it is most likely this. +1
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I hope not, im trying to figure out how to unlock my dna now...
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Umm... It is unlocked... Factory unlocked... They are talking about switching carriers not the bootloader...
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It says custom Roms too.
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No it doesn't It says HTC is telling the site they have to remove custom roms. The law says nothing about custom roms.
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jerrickdamon said:
I heard, starting on the 26th, that having an unlocked device is actually going to be illegal. At first I thought that the article was just talking about the iPhone but I guess not.
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iPhone 5s come unlocked.
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No it doesn't It says HTC is telling the site they have to remove custom roms. The law says nothing about custom roms.
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iPhone 5s come unlocked.
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Only the Verizon version of the Iphone 5 the rest are locked. That one really shocked me too. The DNA, Iphone 5, and I think there was another one this is very unlike Verizon.
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It says custom Roms too.
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I realize IT said that about that one site but the motivation is the RUUs obtained that are hosted on that site. That's the driver. Don't host RUUs and there won't be an issue.
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Only the Verizon version of the Iphone 5 the rest are locked. That one really shocked me too. The DNA, Iphone 5, and I think there was another one this is very unlike Verizon.
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Very unlike them. They normally lock everything down, and make you suffer before they even think about unlocking a phone for you.
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So I've been reading and I see that developers are working on a root method for the new 4.3 update. And to these guys I want to say thank you for all your hard work! I'm curious as to whether they'll be a method to unlock the boot loader? I know about the whole ME7 ordeal, I just hope we won't see the same with this new update. Anyone know anything?
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So I've been reading and I see that developers are working on a root method for the new 4.3 update. And to these guys I want to say thank you for all your hard work! I'm curious as to whether they'll be a method to unlock the boot loader? I know about the whole ME7 ordeal, I just hope we won't see the same with this new update. Anyone know anything?
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I believe it is still being looked at. With the release of note 3 probably got even more eyes on it. Though from everything I've seen posted a true unlock looks very hard if not impossible. It looks like the best will be Safestrap with kexec exploit to load custom kernels. Problem is right now no kexec exploit.
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So I've been reading and I see that developers are working on a root method for the new 4.3 update. And to these guys I want to say thank you for all your hard work! I'm curious as to whether they'll be a method to unlock the boot loader? I know about the whole ME7 ordeal, I just hope we won't see the same with this new update. Anyone know anything?
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Wow. I hope it'll be possible. I've never seen a phone locked down this tight. Not even HTC. Hopefully these guys will come up with something. It would be awesome if Adam Outler could do a casual method for all builds on this device.
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Hey guys, just got my S4 and I'm really happy with it, but I'm just so lost with all of the locked boot loader things and Loki ect. I don't know where to start at all. I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask, if it is, could you guys point me in the right direction? Once again, sorry.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys, just got my S4 and I'm really happy with it, but I'm just so lost with all of the locked boot loader things and Loki ect. I don't know where to start at all. I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask, if it is, could you guys point me in the right direction? Once again, sorry.
Thanks in advance!
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Best place to start is finding out what build you're on as options are limited to some degree depending upon that. I'm assuming you're going to be on one of the newer ones. Lemme know and we'll go from there bud.
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Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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You will not be able to install a custom recovery on your device, as any build past MDK (the original build) has pretty much been locked down. Only MDK people have the ability to use Loki.
Your only alternative is Safestrap, basically you can only flash ROMs that use the stock kernel...which means no AOSP. There's a thread for it here somewhere.
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Damn that's dissapointing to say the least. I really loved AOSP on my S3 and I really hear that its pretty great on on the S4. Oh well, I will just enjoy 4.3 until 4.4 comes later this month, or year due to Verizon's AMAZING speed when it comes to updates. -_-
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damnyouwaffles said:
Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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if you do some reading, you find that safestrap recovery is available for your phone....limited ROMs but at least its an avenue.
read and research !!!
So with the KK update LG changed the way the G2 is locked down. Been messing around with some stuff and just was able to get around the standard recovery and was able to boot into the more normal Android recovery. I think from here I can build a custom recovery that may work...
Who knows if it will work and not sure when I will be done with it so don't ask for ETA...
So, when will we have this? Jk...thank u for your hard work. Much appreciated.
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So with the KK update LG changed the way the G2 is locked down. Been messing around with some stuff and just was able to get around the standard recovery and was able to boot into the more normal Android recovery. I think from here I can build a custom recovery that may work...
Who knows if it will work and not sure when I will be done with it so don't ask for ETA...
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Yea I was able to do that when clicking reboot to recovery from flashify.
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Yea I was able to do that when clicking reboot to recovery from flashify.
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I first noticed it when I was making flashable KK update zip when I screwed something up. Was surprised too see a recovery like that. This is my new recovery now and I am able to boot with it and bypass the regular LG recovery setup and can also boot into this recovery.
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Yea I was able to do that when clicking reboot to recovery from flashify.
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You have the G2 too? Do you remember me from the S4 Active days? Anyways what all can be done with this recovery? I would think they would have a lot of checks and stuff to reduce it.
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You have the G2 too? Do you remember me from the S4 Active days? Anyways what all can be done with this recovery? I would think they would have a lot of checks and stuff to reduce it.
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You can pretty much count on me having any phone with att lte bands lol. But ya I remember you. I don't think you can do anything with the stock recovery but androiduser0101001 is the guy to ask that.
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You can pretty much count on me having any phone with att lte bands lol. But ya I remember you. I don't think you can do anything with the stock recovery but androiduser0101001 is the guy to ask that.
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So basically you do what every member on this forum only wishes they could do . G2 is SWEET though, I dont see myself getting another samsung for a while. I was hoping for the S5 but that let me down.
Anyways back to topic, I haven't made the jump to KK yet (mainly because I'm working 11 days in a row) but if they can work out a recovery for it I will be very happy
Stock recoveries will be allowed through the 4.4.2 bootloader check. Custom recoveries are not allowed because they pass through the aboot and if they are not 100% stock you are dropped into fastboot. Sorry man, this idea won't work.
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Savoca said:
Stock recoveries will be allowed through the 4.4.2 bootloader check. Custom recoveries are not allowed because they pass through the aboot and if they are not 100% stock you are dropped into fastboot. Sorry man, this idea won't work.
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You do not know what my idea is so no reason to shot it down already. If you think you know better than go try something on your own. It's easy to sit there and say something without trying to do anything about it.
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So much hostility here. Group hug anyone?
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You do not know what my idea is so no reason to shot it down already. If you think you know better than go try something on your own. It's easy to sit there and say something without trying to do anything about it.
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You do not know what my idea is so no reason to shot it down already. If you think you know better than go try something on your own. It's easy to sit there and say something without trying to do anything about it.
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I definitely agree! Trying something beats giving up. Please keep up your efforts and share your findings.
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I definitely agree! Trying something beats giving up. Please keep up your efforts and share your findings.
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I might have seen a bit rough so my apologies @Savoca but I have been up all night and just a bit cranky...
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What about root? I really don't care about custom recovery but isn't there no way to root?
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What about root? I really don't care about custom recovery but isn't there no way to root?
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He's already made a flashable KK with root access for D802 & D800.
I was also able to get into that recovery while messing with something. It was one time though. In read in Gibhub of Loki that LG has patched for Loki exploit but he used the previous aboot but that was just for an OTA. https://github.com/djrbliss/loki/issues/44
This a great News Im looking for your custom recavary
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What about root? I really don't care about custom recovery but isn't there no way to root?
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Well lot of us do
I am not an Android Dev but how much work would it be to just create a g2 framework package that would overlay on a source aosp rom? Lg ui isn't some mystical New rom is just an overlay. Very involved but I see other people exporting the Sony ui to other roms. It might be easier than trying to find an exploit that might not exist
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I just picked up an S4 and am coming from an S3.
Found this link to get root but not sure if I want to take the method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
I'm on MK2.
Has the bootloader been unlocked yet or is it unlocked by default?
My phone needs some AOSP in its life. Bad.
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RBarnett09 said:
I just picked up an S4 and am coming from an S3.
Found this link to get root but not sure if I want to take the method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
I'm on MK2.
Has the bootloader been unlocked yet or is it unlocked by default?
My phone needs some AOSP in its life. Bad.
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Not sure anyone can help you if your not sure you want to try the method in the first place. The thread Naddict refers to says its roots MK2 in the title. The bootloader Is locked so no AOSP. Theres a sticky that most people refer users to when they ask this question (which is at least 4 times a day) I trust you'll be able to find it though.
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Not sure anyone can help you if your not sure you want to try the method in the first place. The thread Naddict refers to says its roots MK2 in the title. The bootloader Is locked so no AOSP. Theres a sticky that most people refer users to when they ask this question (which is at least 4 times a day) I trust you'll be able to find it though.
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The only reason I wasn't sure if I wanted to try it is because I'm strictly wanting AOSP ROMs... I hate Touchwiz with a passion. So if I can't use any AOSP ROMs, I won't bother rooting it.
Hopefully they get the bootloader unlocked soon.
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Would it be possible to Odin to a previous build that has an unlockable bootloader, root and then flash?
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Would it be possible to Odin to a previous build that has an unlockable bootloader, root and then flash?
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No that's not possible sorry. Wish it were that easy.
Look into SafeStrap compatible ROMs for the Verizon s4... There's a list on here of them. Some pretty cool ones that have the feel of aosp.
Or... Go on swappa and buy an MDK build which you can run aosp on.
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The only reason I wasn't sure if I wanted to try it is because I'm strictly wanting AOSP ROMs... I hate Touchwiz with a passion. So if I can't use any AOSP ROMs, I won't bother rooting it.
Hopefully they get the bootloader unlocked soon.
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all S4 owners need to start with this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Ah.
I'm just going to resell this thing.
Theres no way to get away from Touchwiz.
Thanks though guys.
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