So I've been reading and I see that developers are working on a root method for the new 4.3 update. And to these guys I want to say thank you for all your hard work! I'm curious as to whether they'll be a method to unlock the boot loader? I know about the whole ME7 ordeal, I just hope we won't see the same with this new update. Anyone know anything?
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So I've been reading and I see that developers are working on a root method for the new 4.3 update. And to these guys I want to say thank you for all your hard work! I'm curious as to whether they'll be a method to unlock the boot loader? I know about the whole ME7 ordeal, I just hope we won't see the same with this new update. Anyone know anything?
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I believe it is still being looked at. With the release of note 3 probably got even more eyes on it. Though from everything I've seen posted a true unlock looks very hard if not impossible. It looks like the best will be Safestrap with kexec exploit to load custom kernels. Problem is right now no kexec exploit.
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blkhrt13 said:
So I've been reading and I see that developers are working on a root method for the new 4.3 update. And to these guys I want to say thank you for all your hard work! I'm curious as to whether they'll be a method to unlock the boot loader? I know about the whole ME7 ordeal, I just hope we won't see the same with this new update. Anyone know anything?
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Wow. I hope it'll be possible. I've never seen a phone locked down this tight. Not even HTC. Hopefully these guys will come up with something. It would be awesome if Adam Outler could do a casual method for all builds on this device.
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Well guys, I'm having some scary thoughts about upgrading to a 5s from my s4. I really don't want to, but I am confused about the bootloader. I've searched the forums high and low for the information I've been trying to look for. Honestly, I was just wondering if the bootloader will eventually get unlocked.
Is it possible? Have the devs given up? Safestrap is amazing by the way. Using it right now with hyperdrive. I just haven't seen any chatter about it. I am no way complaining I am just lacking the information. I am having internal memory issues.
Some please ease our minds (and mine for that matter) about this situation. Please, steer me away from the 5s. I am hardcore android. Is the s4 worth keeping? Is anyone else going to (it have) replace the s4?
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I wouldnt get an iphone. Youll just look at it be like wow its just an iphone.. This sux.
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I wouldnt get an iphone. Youll just look at it be like wow its just an iphone.. This sux.
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True, but I heard from now on.. All of Verizon's phones bootloaders will be locked. Might as well try apple for the first time. I can always comes back. I'll miss it but man I just need some info.
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I dont know anything about Verizon phones but its completely up to you if you wanna try the iphone lol
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I recently switched from the iPhone 5 to the S4 because it was just an iPhone. I even enjoyed jailbreaking my iPhone and it wasn't all that great. No customization like what's allowed on android. Hope you choose to stay.
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But you can do just as much if not more on your stock s4 than the iphone. The iphone has no customization at all besides just switching your wallpaper.
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You guys all have a point. I might just upgrade the iPhone 5s and resell for cash and keep my s4. Either way this s4 is staying with me. Anyone know any news on the boot loader?
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Yeah man the iPhone 5S has nice features but I'm telling you it's not worth it. The iPhone is smoother but you lack on a lot of customization. Your iPhone will look exactly like anyone iPhone 4 out there and that's 3 generations old.
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Yeah. I understand. So is not safe to say the boot loader for the s4 won't see any hope? As in dead?
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What do you wanted an unlocked bootloader for??
This bootloader stuff has been so blown out of proportion that so many people are just going on the "locked bootloader blah blah" bandwagon. We just need another exploit, Hash is working on kexec.
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richii0207 said:
What do you wanted an unlocked bootloader for??
This bootloader stuff has been so blown out of proportion that so many people are just going on the "locked bootloader blah blah" bandwagon. We just need another exploit, Hash is working on kexec.
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lol so I can do whatever I want with my device. Others agree. Now, kexec. Can you explain what that is for me?
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lol so I can do whatever I want with my device. Others agree. Now, kexec. Can you explain what that is for me?
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Kexec is like a hijack of the kernel. It pretty much loads a custom kernel on top of the stock one.
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Aw, I see. That would be nice.
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Aw, I see. That would be nice.
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The main benefit of getting kexec support would be that people could flash aosp roms. As im sure you already know currently there is only support for touchwiz based roms on ss.
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The main benefit of getting kexec support would be that people could flash aosp roms. As im sure you already know currently there is only support for touchwiz based roms on ss.
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Yes. AOSP is a must. It would really help people with internal memory such as myself. Do you know if the boot loader itself is being worked on? Or are devs just exploiting it rather than fully unlocking it.
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Yes. AOSP is a must. It would really help people with internal memory such as myself. Do you know if the boot loader itself is being worked on? Or are devs just exploiting it rather than fully unlocking it.
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Pretty sure it isn't going to be unlocked. It never was for the S4 so it probably won't be.
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lol so I can do whatever I want with my device. Others agree. Now, kexec. Can you explain what that is for me?
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What do you mean by "whatever" you want? Install a ROM? Safestrap does that for you. Install a kernel? Hash is working on kexec.
I'm convinced most of the people complaining about the bootloader have no idea what they are talking about. You do realize that SS and kexec will be virtually grant you the same things an "unlocked" bootloader does.
Loki is another exploit on MDK devices that gives you the same capabilities, many people even think that the MDK has an unlocked bootloader, lmao.
Again I ask, what are you hoping to do with an unlocked bootloader that SS and kexec cannot do?
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What do you wanted an unlocked bootloader for??
This bootloader stuff has been so blown out of proportion that so many people are just going on the "locked bootloader blah blah" bandwagon. We just need another exploit, Hash is working on kexec.
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Whoa there cowboy. Well for one, it won't be unlocked. So there's the obvious one. I'm not complaining, so there's one problem lol. I am very aware of what safestrap is. I just wish we could replace stock ROM, so we could have some more internal memory. If you caught that. totally grateful. Was just wondering and looks like bootloader won't be getting unlocked. Man...
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Whoa there cowboy. Well for one, it won't be unlocked. So there's the obvious one. I'm not complaining, so there's one problem lol. I am very aware of what safestrap is. I just wish we could replace stock ROM, so we could have some more internal memory. If you caught that. totally grateful. Was just wondering and looks like bootloader won't be getting unlocked. Man...
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You asked for am honest opinion...I'm just letting you know. So you just wish to have more internal storage? You can try to flash a ROM on the stock rom slot.
It just seems like you have this obsession with the bootloader based on your threads created and the forum-wide PMs about the unlock petition.
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You asked for am honest opinion...I'm just letting you know. So you just wish to have more internal storage? You can try to flash a ROM on the stock rom slot.
It just seems like you have this obsession with the bootloader based on your threads created and the forum-wide PMs about the unlock petition.
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No, 16 is enough. But its really 8 or something because of the OS. Obsession with the boot loader? Dude I just want carriers to stop locking up the bootloaders to my devices that I pay for. Just because its locked doesn't mean I want it unlocked. Done with this I just wanted info and I got it so thanks I guess. petition has 250 sigs so pretty awesome.
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Was already on ME7 so I was already screwed anyways...figured I would hope for the best. Not sure on whats been updated.....
I got it too.....I wish there was a change log
Can anyone figure out what its for?
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Wonder if safe strap works with this update?
I wish I knew.... kies doesn't list any kind of change log.... Can't tell much yet.... But it's only been on my phone for about an hour or so...
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Wonder if safe strap works with this update?
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Never rooted ME7... just kinda gave up... So haven't tried safestrap on it
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Never rooted ME7... just kinda gave up... So haven't tried safestrap on it
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Ya, users that enjoy stock then update away and see what's new and exciting. If someone is using safestrap on me7 for roms then I would wait on the update until it is tested.
Lol. I screwed something up by getting over my head with some deep settings and ended up losing 3g/4g. I was on mdk and rooted. My last resort was to unroot and factory reset. I then thought hey I'll update to me7 and go the safe strap route. I get back to my desk and see MI1 as updated and current version. Wonderful my luck has been today!!
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Has anyone tried safe strap on this update?
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Im uploading the factory image now. Im looking through it too.
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If you are using ME7 and safe strap I would wait on trying the new update. It comes with a secure boot update. If you like to use roms I would wait for the devs to figure it out.
Anyone able to pull the modem yet?
Woaaa my bad. Didn't realize how young this thread was. Hasn't been enough time for that to happen yet.
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Anyone able to pull the modem yet?
Woaaa my bad. Didn't realize how young this thread was. Hasn't been enough time for that to happen yet.
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I have it, do you need it?
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I have it, do you need it?
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Oh yeah. Is it flashable. If not I think I can. Use one of the other modem zips to make it that way.
Can we get a flashable modem though? Maybe with any luck they gave use the LTE band 4 AND AWS. My hopes Have come back maybe us T-Mobile guys can get our AWS!
Anyone willing to test if this new build is rootable from stock using the same method that worked before on ME7?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
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Oh yeah. Is it flashable. If not I think I can. Use one of the other modem zips to make it that way.
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Can we get a flashable modem though? Maybe with any luck they gave use the LTE band 4 AND AWS. My hopes Have come back maybe us T-Mobile guys can get our AWS!
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I'll pm it to you guys if you want, but I don't think anyone should post them publicly until we know how/if it has any effect on root
I will try this root method sometime today and get the results back. I was mainly like everyone else and curious about safestrap with update.
Please do. The modem itself shouldnt have any effect. But please do.
Well nothing on the inter webs that I can find. Most speculating all under the hood stuff and security of course. Still running stock rooted/debloated as DD so will probably steer clear myself.
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I saw online from a source idk if reliable or not but it said Verizon was gonna try to roll out 4.3 on October 28. Is this true? Did they start or if not when will they?
Thanks
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The posts about 4.3 are all over the forums... I don't know how you can miss them. I'm not trying to be mean but come on... just look for like 10 seconds and you'll see hundreds of posts about the OTA.
Yes I thought I did. Its MJ7 correct ? But its not unlockable so stay mdk ?
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Yes I thought I did. Its MJ7 correct ? But its not unlockable so stay mdk ?
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MJ7 is just like ME7 and MI1, it's locked down tight. If you're lucky enough to have MDK then you're definitely better off enjoying your freedom, but if you want the update badly you should trade it for someone who already is stuck on an updated phone so they can enjoy it.
Nope I'll stay mdk . will ROMs come out with the 4.3 mj7 version though? Or not since its locked down
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Yeah they will start coming eventually, the files needed have already been floating around I think so just a matter of time
Hey guys, just got my S4 and I'm really happy with it, but I'm just so lost with all of the locked boot loader things and Loki ect. I don't know where to start at all. I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask, if it is, could you guys point me in the right direction? Once again, sorry.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys, just got my S4 and I'm really happy with it, but I'm just so lost with all of the locked boot loader things and Loki ect. I don't know where to start at all. I'm sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask, if it is, could you guys point me in the right direction? Once again, sorry.
Thanks in advance!
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Best place to start is finding out what build you're on as options are limited to some degree depending upon that. I'm assuming you're going to be on one of the newer ones. Lemme know and we'll go from there bud.
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Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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damnyouwaffles said:
Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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You will not be able to install a custom recovery on your device, as any build past MDK (the original build) has pretty much been locked down. Only MDK people have the ability to use Loki.
Your only alternative is Safestrap, basically you can only flash ROMs that use the stock kernel...which means no AOSP. There's a thread for it here somewhere.
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Damn that's dissapointing to say the least. I really loved AOSP on my S3 and I really hear that its pretty great on on the S4. Oh well, I will just enjoy 4.3 until 4.4 comes later this month, or year due to Verizon's AMAZING speed when it comes to updates. -_-
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damnyouwaffles said:
Unfortunately, I am on the newest build that came out. I had no idea that the bootloaders were locked until after I updated. I actually came from the S3 so I pretty much know the tools that I need and things like that but I have never ever heard of Loki before, all I know is its some type of makeshift work around for the bootloader.
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if you do some reading, you find that safestrap recovery is available for your phone....limited ROMs but at least its an avenue.
read and research !!!
I just picked up an S4 and am coming from an S3.
Found this link to get root but not sure if I want to take the method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
I'm on MK2.
Has the bootloader been unlocked yet or is it unlocked by default?
My phone needs some AOSP in its life. Bad.
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I just picked up an S4 and am coming from an S3.
Found this link to get root but not sure if I want to take the method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
I'm on MK2.
Has the bootloader been unlocked yet or is it unlocked by default?
My phone needs some AOSP in its life. Bad.
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Not sure anyone can help you if your not sure you want to try the method in the first place. The thread Naddict refers to says its roots MK2 in the title. The bootloader Is locked so no AOSP. Theres a sticky that most people refer users to when they ask this question (which is at least 4 times a day) I trust you'll be able to find it though.
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Not sure anyone can help you if your not sure you want to try the method in the first place. The thread Naddict refers to says its roots MK2 in the title. The bootloader Is locked so no AOSP. Theres a sticky that most people refer users to when they ask this question (which is at least 4 times a day) I trust you'll be able to find it though.
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The only reason I wasn't sure if I wanted to try it is because I'm strictly wanting AOSP ROMs... I hate Touchwiz with a passion. So if I can't use any AOSP ROMs, I won't bother rooting it.
Hopefully they get the bootloader unlocked soon.
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Would it be possible to Odin to a previous build that has an unlockable bootloader, root and then flash?
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RBarnett09 said:
Would it be possible to Odin to a previous build that has an unlockable bootloader, root and then flash?
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No that's not possible sorry. Wish it were that easy.
Look into SafeStrap compatible ROMs for the Verizon s4... There's a list on here of them. Some pretty cool ones that have the feel of aosp.
Or... Go on swappa and buy an MDK build which you can run aosp on.
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The only reason I wasn't sure if I wanted to try it is because I'm strictly wanting AOSP ROMs... I hate Touchwiz with a passion. So if I can't use any AOSP ROMs, I won't bother rooting it.
Hopefully they get the bootloader unlocked soon.
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all S4 owners need to start with this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Ah.
I'm just going to resell this thing.
Theres no way to get away from Touchwiz.
Thanks though guys.
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