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I just rooted my DX2 using the Droid3 one click root method. I don't like being rooted. I have frozen some apps and changed my boot animation and my fonts. All using ROM Manager. My question is, 3 actually,
1. How do I unroot?
2. Can I unroot without having to factory reset my phone?
3. Is there a way to back up my phone(settings, apps, contacts) without being rooted?
What is there not to like? Being rooted just gives u superuser permission you can stay stock and benefit from more apps and control and abilities to add to ur misfit toy
T3CH9ICIAN said:
What is there not to like? Being rooted just gives u superuser permission you can stay stock and benefit from more apps and control and abilities to add to ur misfit toy
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I am a noob at rooting. I was afraid to even take the leap. Now it seems that my phone is slower and laggy. I don't want to brick my phone trying to fix this.
Try using setcpu or ROM toolbox to set the CPU higher. Can also use auto task killer memory optimizer to free up ram on your phone. I'd say try that before unrooting. Not sure if you can unroot. I think you'll have to do a SBF
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arparaspolo said:
I am a noob at rooting. I was afraid to even take the leap. Now it seems that my phone is slower and laggy. I don't want to brick my phone trying to fix this.
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You can just SBF your phone, it's not as scary as it seems. The directions provided here on XDA are detailed and easy to follow.
Still, if it were me in you position, I'd not only keep root, but go ahead and install Recovery and do a backup. That way you don't have to lose your data.
I used to think the same thing. But keeping root has allowed me to load multiple roms and scripts, now I'm a flash addict! Flashing roms and running scripts is very easy when you follow the instructions on this forum. I suggest loading the liberty rom and trying it out before unrooting or sbfing.
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I will try out this root thing a bit longer. Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs right? I hope to not break any eggs :/ This is all chinese to me. I will have to research the terms you are all speaking of.
arparaspolo said:
Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I will try out this root thing a bit longer. Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs right? I hope to not break any eggs :/ This is all chinese to me. I will have to research the terms you are all speaking of.
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Take look at all our stickies. Anything u need to know is detailed in them.
feel free to pm me if u have something u can't figure out.
TIP-
FLASH ECLIPSE
U will almost instantly fall in love with how smooth it runs and how clean it is.
Or even try liberty. Both very solid.
And rooting and the mods u described u did(freezing/removing apps )I shouldn't slow ur phone down.
try clearing cache from stock recovery and see if that speeds things up for ya. It should.
U wont lose ANY data if u only clear the cache.
Breaking humpty dumpty is fine, remember to make nandroid so you can put your phone back to how you had it
Quite fun making a nandroid and trying out new ROMs and mods. You can rename nandroids too so you know which one is which, just put a "."But and then what ever you want after everything. So like 2011-12-23.Molten or something, just don't mess with the numbers.
Good luck!
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This entire thread really made me laugh! Thanks guys, you took this poor soul from a feeling of OH NO WHAT DID I DO and flashed him with suggestions and thoughts and try this and that to the point he's thinking :
arparaspolo said:
I will try out this root thing a bit longer.
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I love it! This root thing!
Never mind
I just installed rom manager and I must have goofed something. There are hardly any roms for the dx2. I dont see eclipse or liberty? Any suggestions?
Yeah...here's a suggestions ...get the downloads for our roms from the development section sticky created by booked ....has every rom we got...can't.miss it...
We don't have "official" rom manager support....I recommend getting rid of it for now b4 u cause problems for urself....just saying.
I am verging off into strange and uncharted waters. I am trying to flash a rom. I have Rom toolbox and Rom manager and have back up everything with TB I have downloaded eclipse for my X2 and when I go to install Rom from memory card I click Eclipse only nothing happens. It just opens the file and that is it. How do I get it to put Eclipse on my phone?
Thanks
arparaspolo said:
I am verging off into strange and uncharted waters. I am trying to flash a rom. I have Rom toolbox and Rom manager and have back up everything with TB I have downloaded eclipse for my X2 and when I go to install Rom from memory card I click Eclipse only nothing happens. It just opens the file and that is it. How do I get it to put Eclipse on my phone?
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First step---get rid of rom manager...
u need to use our bootstrap recovery to flash anything
Second step.
check booked's sticky in our development section for the bootstrap recovery app
Third step
Go to general section and read moon shadows sticky about making a nandroid backup.
Read read read read lol...
Rom manager will not work for us...the X2 doesn't have "official" CWM support ...or even official rom manager support...
Please read the couple sticky posts we have in general and development sections for all the info u desire
ashclepdia said:
First step---get rid of rom manager...
u need to use our bootstrap recovery to flash anything
Second step.
check booked's sticky in our development section for the bootstrap recovery app
Third step
Go to general section and read moon shadows sticky about making a nandroid backup.
Read read read read lol...
Rom manager will not work for us...the X2 doesn't have "official" CWM support ...or even official rom manager support...
Please read the couple sticky posts we have in general and development sections for all the info u desire
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Ok, so, I have flashed Eclipse to my phone. I downloaded Titanium backup to restore all of my data and apps but it isn't recognizing any of my backed up files. I don't understand. I even manually downloaded ADW again and went to restore my configuration and settings and it says there is no files. I know they are there I can see them when I connect my phone to the PC. Also when I open Easy Installer it isn't recognizing most of my APK files I have. Can you tell me what is going on please?
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Ok, so, I have flashed Eclipse to my phone. I downloaded Titanium backup to restore all of my data and apps but it isn't recognizing any of my backed up files. I don't understand. I even manually downloaded ADW again and went to restore my configuration and settings and it says there is no files. I know they are there I can see them when I connect my phone to the PC. Also when I open Easy Installer it isn't recognizing most of my APK files I have. Can you tell me what is going on please?
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Try switching the files ur trying to restore to the other sdcard.
I suspect this is ur problem because eclipse comes with sd card flip
So I think that ti is looking in the wrong.place.
Just use a file explorer to move it all to the other sdcard
reboot and them try again
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U don't need "easy installer" I don't think
Just use a file explorer (like root explorer--HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS APP!)
And navigate to the apk u would like to install and tap it. Then use "package installer" to install it.
Although some apps(mostly system apps) u will need to manually "push"(copy&paste) to /system/app using root explorer(mount /system as rw first...little gray button on top in root explorer) then change permission to rw-r--r--. Reboot and app will be there.
ashclepdia said:
Try switching the files ur trying to restore to the other sdcard.
I suspect this is ur problem because eclipse comes with sd card flip
So I think that ti is looking in the wrong.place.
Just use a file explorer to move it all to the other sdcard
reboot and them try again
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U don't need "easy installer" I don't think
Just use a file explorer (like root explorer--HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS APP!)
And navigate to the apk u would like to install and tap it. Then use "package installer" to install it.
Although some apps(mostly system apps) u will need to manually "push"(copy&paste) to /system/app using root explorer(mount /system as rw first...little gray button on top in root explorer) then change permission to rw-r--r--. Reboot and app will be there.
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Before Eclipse everything was being saved in my internal memory. When you said SD flip I thought maybe if I take what I want from internal and transfer to external it will be recognized. It worked. I am restoring all my data and apps. WOOHOO. Now I just need to find out how to get my music able to be controlled from the lock screen like gingerbread That is a feature I use daily as I use my phone as an MP3.
ashclepdia said:
Try switching the files ur trying to restore to the other sdcard.
I suspect this is ur problem because eclipse comes with sd card flip
So I think that ti is looking in the wrong.place.
Just use a file explorer to move it all to the other sdcard
reboot and them try again
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U don't need "easy installer" I don't think
Just use a file explorer (like root explorer--HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS APP!)
And navigate to the apk u would like to install and tap it. Then use "package installer" to install it.
Although some apps(mostly system apps) u will need to manually "push"(copy&paste) to /system/app using root explorer(mount /system as rw first...little gray button on top in root explorer) then change permission to rw-r--r--. Reboot and app will be there.
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Another problem I am having is I can't get picture messeges. It gives me the option to download them but it never downloads.
Hmmm. I never had a problem wit picture messages...
sorry...
I even just got a pic my friend sent me as I was reading this...
Might want to check the settings inside message app...
u could also try a message app from market...
For lockscreen music controls try something like power amp or another music app that comes with options for lockscreen widget/controls...maybe even try searching for "lockscreen music control"
Also..I am hoping nitro includes those controls in next release kinda like how liberty has it
See the pics attached:
I use this method
(from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034145):
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E. Rooting for 2.3.3/2.3.4/2.3.5 (Thanks to russian forum-user with nickname may213):
1) Download attached file called upd_1.zip and copy it to your sdcard
2) Turn off your phone
3) Press POWER+HOME BUTTON
4) Select update from sdcard, select the file upd_1.zip
5) After the update completed - reboot
6) Now you have rooted S5830
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before rooting, I've done this———“How to force install apps to SD card without ROOT!!!”, does this affect my rooting?
Try to mount/system and data then flash again.
tried, still can't. thx anyway.
Problem solved!!
I find this article "How to root Samsung Galaxy Ace on Froyo & Gingerbread
"acetips.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/root-ace-froyo-gingerbread/"
I follow the note:
"Those who are getting errors and cant root their phone , Download this file “AceGingerRoot.zip” and use it instead of “upd_1.zip”"
download the file “AceGingerRoot.zip".
and successfull!!!!
I don't know why, but again, it's successful!
I'm sorry, I thought my problem solved.
coz I saw the update completed and the superuser icon in the app drawer.
But when I try to open Titanium Backup, it says my ROM is not rooted.
Still need help!
and my phone is locked to my carrier,
does it affect the rooting?
really need help!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so frustrated!!!
Lol. I had the exact same problem! Are you intending to install cm7? Whatever I did that update pack would not root for me... I ended up flashing clockwork mod ace, a recovery just for the ace. I've heard that the regular ROM Manager can brick this phone. Then installed cm7 without having the root permission in Gingerbread. You can do it just by placing the Rom on the SD and using the install zip from sd option. You will want to make a backup before you do this. Also check if you can find your providers APN values online for setting up mobile data. Worked for me. Do I like cm7? It is good, very customizable. However, do not expect something as polished as the firmware without a bit of effort to figure out the options.
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And no, being locked to a carrier does not affect rooting your phone.
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you can try CF-root
You should also have a look at the topic on this forum "(Q) GTS5830B root?" I think it may be applicable to you. Some stuff about changing the script in the update.zip pack to match the model of your Ace.
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yes, I got the problem exactly same as this thread""(Q) GTS5830B root?" " but I don't understand how to solve it using the method mentioned in that thread.
Actually, I'm not only just a noob, also, ace is my first smartphone.
I tried to figure out all the new words, apps, systems I had to use to get my Ace to customize as my wish.
I'll managed to solve my problem by figuring out the approach that thread mentioned. If I can't, I'll probably try CM7(another new thing to learn).
Thank you for your hint, at least now, I saw the hope out there.
I've tried these 2:
1. edit "updater-script" by changing "GT-S5830" to "GT-S5830T"(my model number), it doesn't work, aborted.
2. delete the "assert", it worked, update completed.
But,
Still,
when I try to open titanium or root uninstaller,
they all say "it is not rooted" after updating was successful.
I just don't get it. WHY?????
I tried to unroot, coz I thought maybe I can get rid of the useless superuser app got from updating "“AceGingerRoot.zip” ", and then I will give modified "update.zip" another try.
However, it's so funny that the superuser app is still there after updating unroot.zip successfully(at least that's what the screen says).
Can I recovery to the stock state by using the recovery mode? so I can get rid of all these stuff and start again!
Okay, you have EXACTLY the same problem I did. You could try SuperOnceClick. It never worked for me, but it might be worth a try before giving up. There is a good Tutorial on it here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
When that didn't work I just installed CyanogenMod-7.1-RC1Cooper-Grif_07 and moved on with my life. You can get it to look just like Gingerbread, but you will loose all your Samsung stuff, and your GPS might not be able to get a fix. Sorry...
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Yes, if you made a back-up before you started. It is really easy, it just takes a few min... Without a backup you would need to download the original firmware.
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Lol. I had the exact same problem! Are you intending to install cm7? Whatever I did that update pack would not root for me... I ended up flashing clockwork mod ace, a recovery just for the ace. I've heard that the regular ROM Manager can brick this phone. Then installed cm7 without having the root permission in Gingerbread. You can do it just by placing the Rom on the SD and using the install zip from sd option. You will want to make a backup before you do this. Also check if you can find your providers APN values online for setting up mobile data. Worked for me. Do I like cm7? It is good, very customizable. However, do not expect something as polished as the firmware without a bit of effort to figure out the options.
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Could you tell you where you got the cm7 and the tutorial? I need to make sure I can install CM7 on my ACE. THX.
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Okay, you have EXACTLY the same problem I did. You could try SuperOnceClick. It never worked for me, but it might be worth a try before giving up. There is a good Tutorial on it here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
When that didn't work I just installed CyanogenMod-7.1-RC1Cooper-Grif_07 and moved on with my life. You can get it to look just like Gingerbread, but you will loose all your Samsung stuff, and your GPS might not be able to get a fix. Sorry...
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Yes, if you made a back-up before you started. It is really easy, it just takes a few min... Without a backup you would need to download the original firmware.
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I've heard cannot get backup by using clockwork recovery if it's not rooted. Am I wrong about it?
and I thought SuperOnceClick is for Froyo and not for ACE?
When I installed I was so MAD that I was ready to smash the phone, so honestly I never backed up before installing CM7. You can go ahead and try. The worst that can happen is nothing. If you're flashing CM7 and you absolutely hate it you can always reset back to the factory ROM by downloading and installing it. There is a full Tutorial here including links to everything you need! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263292
SuperOneClick worked on my P500h running 2.3.3...
Thank you.
I'll give it a try tomorrow, and see how it goes.
Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
lmarranzino said:
Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
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You don't have to remove it just don't use it
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122ninjas said:
You don't have to remove it just don't use it
Sent from my SGH-I777
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Thanks I really do not want to F up this phone for sure... :good:
I thought ROM manager was an app? (Never used it) So if it is, couldn't you use TiBu to remove it? If it's not an app, I would still like to know if it's possible to get rid of, without switching ROMs of course.
lmarranzino said:
Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
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R you talking about ROM manager the app or the custom recovery (clockworkmod)because u mentioned twrp which is a custom recovery not an app.
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You can use Root Uninstall to remove Rom Manager. As far as CWM, thats a keeper
jthatch12 said:
You can use Root Uninstall to remove Rom Manager. As far as CWM, thats a keeper
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ROM and CWM are together on my phone it came when I installed CM9.. I have not really used it though just to put in recovery mode. I have installed anything via internal SD from the PC to phone ... As it seemed prior the phone was having an issue so have avoided it. I am thinking just leave it as said and just don't use.
My phone is running smooth and great even battery life over the last couple days has doubled. I was just curious actually if TiBu would be the way to remove it IF I should need to.
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R you talking about ROM manager the app or the custom recovery (clockworkmod)because u mentioned twrp which is a custom recovery not an app.
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CM9 came with ROM and CWM together in one app upon install. I was curious if I should remove through TIBU and then download Goo Manager from the market instead and install that... I just don't want to mess up my phone again as it runs great without a hitch.
lmarranzino said:
ROM and CWM are together on my phone it came when I installed CM9.. I have not really used it though just to put in recovery mode. I have installed anything via internal SD from the PC to phone ... As it seemed prior the phone was having an issue so have avoided it. I am thinking just leave it as said and just don't use.
My phone is running smooth and great even battery life over the last couple days has doubled. I was just curious actually if TiBu would be the way to remove it IF I should need to.
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Just delete it from /system/app or move it from /system/app to your sd card. This uninstalls it while keeping the apk should you want to use it again.
Simba501 said:
Just delete it from /system/app or move it from /system/app to your sd card. This uninstalls it while keeping the apk should you want to use it again.
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Just do this ^^^ and don't worry about anything.
The phone has absolutely no dependency on rom manager. Neither does your recovery. Cwm operation is independent from rom manager.
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
Wing2468 said:
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
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Interesting, the thing is people don't need to totally delete Rom Manager, they just should not use it to avoid major issues.
Wing2468 said:
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
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Thanks all.
Disabled and all is running well
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
Chase716 said:
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
djp952 said:
Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
Chase716 said:
Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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bbrad said:
Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
Chase716 said:
Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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I don't think there are any temp-root solutions out there for the Gingerbread Fascinate, as the community was well beyond using exploits by that time Could be wrong, but I looked around and didn't really find anything. It might be worth looking around for a generic Linux 2.6.35-based exploit that somebody has compiled for the ARM processor.
Question ... what would prevent you from temporarily flashing a custom recovery to make the edits you want? If you don't change anything else, it would be overwritten with the stock recovery on the next boot, thus covering your tracks (and we can get the stock recovery back on there for ya if for some reason it doesn't). Many (most?) recoveries will allow ADB access when active, so you can mount system and do what you need to do without actually rooting the stock ROM.
Also, don't worry too much about the CDMA activation status, unless you check a certain box in the Samsung ODIN tool there is almost no way to screw that information up doing what you're looking to do. The CDMA keys are stored in a super double secret location that you ordinarily can't get to. The option is called "EFS Clear", don't go anywhere near it.
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
djp952 said:
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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You should be able to unroot via SuperOneClick after you've fully rooted and debloated the thing. Whoever's keeping an eye on that Fassy hopefully won't notice!
Chase716 said:
Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
Sent from my Galaxy S Fascinate SCH-I500
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Does the person you're hiding this from even know the difference between what GB and JB looks like? What's to say if you have an AOSP or CM-based JB rom that they'd even know it's not stock?
Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
For a detailed guide on pretty much anything related to rooting/flashing just check droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
For freezing or removing bloat I highly recommend buying Titanium Backup, but there are some free apps that will do that sorta stuff. Titanium will give you way more options down the road though...
Crawshayi said:
Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
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I believe he does, since when I rooted my Incredible 2 he noticed it was completely different and not HTC Sense skinned, and I'd explained to him the Android operating system. And I use ADW EX as my default launcher, only because I can't use the TwLauncher due to lag issues. So I've hidden my bloat apps, but things still stay open in the background.
This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
Crawshayi said:
This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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I wish. He won't listen, and he'll just say that it's bad, I don't need to root my phone,and that I'll break it, like my old one ( NOT MY FAULT!). That is why I wanted to do it secretly, temporarily, or something like that. I know it's good, and that there are risks. So is there any way I can root (no flashing) and keep it hidden? Also, I went into the bootloader, and saw an option that said update.zip. Would that be useful, to maybe flash the EH09 Fascinate rom?
UPDATE: Thanks for the help everyone, but I'm most likely going to ditch the Fascinate for a Galaxy SIII. So maybe sometime I'll find the time to experiment with ROMS on my Fascinate sometime.
Hi,
This is my first time writing here so excuse any of my mistakes.
Its been one year that I own the galaxy s3 and it seems to me very slow, with too many lags. And becomes even slower any time I join wifi and even worse when I finish surfing at facebook.
I always have 700mb RAM out of 830mb. I tried everything, reduce animation, disable ripple effect, clear cache etc. Nothing !!!
Im afraid rooting, mainly because I don’t want to start all over againg setting up wifi passwords, apps etc.
I would like your advice, either for improvement without root, or for the best way to root, cyanogenmod etc.
Thanx
aalecou said:
Hi,
This is my first time writing here so excuse any of my mistakes.
Its been one year that I own the galaxy s3 and it seems to me very slow, with too many lags. And becomes even slower any time I join wifi and even worse when I finish surfing at facebook.
I always have 700mb RAM out of 830mb. I tried everything, reduce animation, disable ripple effect, clear cache etc. Nothing !!!
Im afraid rooting, mainly because I don’t want to start all over againg setting up wifi passwords, apps etc.
I would like your advice, either for improvement without root, or for the best way to root, cyanogenmod etc.
Thanx
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Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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Thanx for your response.
So, if i just root i will not lose anything, not even my apps and data?
aalecou said:
Thanx for your response.
So, if i just root i will not lose anything, not even my apps and data?
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The reason you root your device is to gain access to the root directory of your device. You won't lose apps or data, only if you flash a custom rom (unless you make a backup).
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The reason you root your device is to gain access to the root directory or your device. You won't lose apps or data, only if you flash a custom rom (unless you make a backup).
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Thats great.
Thanx again
aalecou said:
Thats great.
Thanx again
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You're welcome. Hope all goes well and enjoy having root. Also welcome to XDA
Sorry,how can i disable root counter.Triangle Away ?
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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i recommend Custom ROM. Once you succeed in flashing rom. U will njoy trying new roms in our device.
Follow Instructions & do carefully. Rooting is justa one time process.
Later on you can flash new roms any times.
HI again.
I managed to root with cf.
Everythink ok. But i dont see any triangle. So i dont need to use "triangle away"?
aalecou said:
HI again.
I managed to root with cf.
Everythink ok. But i dont see any triangle. So i dont need to use "triangle away"?
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You don't need to use Triangle away every now and then. You can use it when you want to take it to service centre!
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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I've rooted with the method you sugested and everything is ok, but my phone did not become much faster. It still needs feww seconds to show contacts, logs etc.
Is this related to ram? Should i do something about it? Any tweaks or apps?
enabling root access
Hi Guys,
I have installed the WhatsApp Tri-Crypt application. Now for the application to work i need to enable root access but i dont know how to do that. Please help
aalecou said:
I've rooted with the method you sugested and everything is ok, but my phone did not become much faster. It still needs feww seconds to show contacts, logs etc.
Is this related to ram? Should i do something about it? Any tweaks or apps?
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Rooting is just granting access to the root directory on your device, this wont speed your phone up at all. Depends, if you want to overclock it with a custom kernel then you can speed it up, otherwise because you have just granted root access you would probably still have all the bloatware on it, removing this can speed up your phone aswell, because this will give you more ram.
Then there always another way, which is to flash a custom rom, they dont usually have any bloat, if any at all, so they can be faster
Grimzee said:
Rooting is just granting access to the root directory on your device, this wont speed your phone up at all. Depends, if you want to overclock it with a custom kernel then you can speed it up, otherwise because you have just granted root access you would probably still have all the bloatware on it, removing this can speed up your phone aswell, because this will give you more ram.
Then there always another way, which is to flash a custom rom, they dont usually have any bloat, if any at all, so they can be faster
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Great. So if i backup everything with titanium, then flash custom rom (i would appreciate any suggestions for a light one) then i will be able to restore everything?
aalecou said:
Great. So if i backup everything with titanium, then flash custom rom (i would appreciate any suggestions for a light one) then i will be able to restore everything?
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Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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Thats true...
Thats why im seeking for help.
Thanx.
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Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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aalecou said:
Thats true...
Thats why im seeking for help.
Thanx.
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Not to worry though,if you read everything before you flash a custom rom and follow the developers instructions, you should be fine. But never forget a backup of your apps and data or youll just have to download them all again. Also making nandroid backups is recommended if anything goes wrong at any point, I said that assuming you would have custom recovery
Thanks
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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Thanks dude I am also planning to Root my phone and install good Rom....
pradeepbm said:
Thanks dude I am also planning to Root my phone and install good Rom....
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No worries, glad ive helped
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No worries, glad ive helped
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Thanks..... :good::good::good: