I just got my Note 3 a few days ago (upgraded from the Note 2) and I am gonna list of what i think are my pros and cons about the Note 3. Feel free to post your opinions as well...
Pros:
*Speed & performance is smoother than the Note 2, the extra 1gb of ram and 2.3 snap dragon is nice.:good:
*Boot up is way quicker than the Note 2.
*I like the new back cover better than the Note 2 and design of the phone.
*The features on the camera are nice as well as the phone features.
Cons:
*Knox! Was using SetCPU on my rooted Note 3 & Knox kept force closing it with its security notification (unless your using a rom)
*The loud speaker is poorly placed on the bottom as well and i tend to cover it sometimes while playing games landscape mode
*The stylus pen is harder to prey out of the phone itself
*The mic is badly placed on the lower left side and if your like me i hold it with my pinky and sometimes cover it up.
*The camera sucks at focusing up close shots, for example if im taking a up close shot of a paper with small writing.
*Phone runs hot sometimes on the upper back side of the phone around the camera area.
*Every time i disable the "transition animation scale" in the developer options....some how when i use the camera it re-enables it all the time.
This was all happening while being on stock non-rooted, hopefully in the future they fix these problems...but for now im actually thinking of going back to my Note 2
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insane209 said:
I just got my Note 3 a few days ago (upgraded from the Note 2) and I am gonna list of what i think are my pros and cons about the Note 3. Feel free to post your opinions as well...
Pros:
*Speed & performance is smoother than the Note 2, the extra 1gb of ram and 2.3 snap dragon is nice.:good:
*Boot up is way quicker than the Note 2.
*I like the new back cover better than the Note 2 and design of the phone.
*The features on the camera are nice as well as the phone features.
Cons:
*Knox! Was using SetCPU on my rooted Note 3 & Knox kept force closing it with its security notification (unless your using a rom)
*The battery life sucks compared to the Note 2
*The stylus pen is harder to prey out of the phone itself
*The mic is badly placed on the lower left side and if your like me i hold it with my pinky and sometimes cover it up.
*The camera sucks at focusing up close shots, for example if im taking a up close shot of a paper with small writing.
*Phone runs hot sometimes on the upper back side of the phone around the camera area.
*Every time i disable the "transition animation scale" in the developer options....some how when i use the camera it re-enables it all the time.
This was all happening while being on stock non-rooted, hopefully in the future they fix these problems...but for now im actually thinking of going back to my Note 2
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Thanks for your observations. I will disagree with you on a few points based upon my experience...
The battery life on my Note 3 is much better than on my Note 2
I'm glad that the S-Pen is harder to pull out. We have over 600 Note 2s at work and people have lost their S-Pens because they have fallen out somewhere.
I have not experienced the phone running hot at all.
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Thanks for your observations. I will disagree with you on a few points based upon my experience...
The battery life on my Note 3 is much better than on my Note 2
I'm glad that the S-Pen is harder to pull out. We have over 600 Note 2s at work and people have lost their S-Pens because they have fallen out somewhere.
I have not experienced the phone running hot at all.
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Well mine has gotten hot a few times...heard its something to do with the SD card...thus killing my battery faster
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Well mine has gotten hot a few times...heard its something to do with the SD card...thus killing my battery faster
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I have a PNY 64GB Class 10 card in my Note 3... so far so good.
Me too exact card...i searched forums around here and ppl are saying it can be various files in the card....hope they fix this soon
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Pro's & Con's
I have the Sprint white 32gig model.
The Pros:
Bright screen
Battery lasts better than my Note 2
Charges faster with the new USB 3.0 plug
Screen size is nice
Faster/better 3G data connect than Note 2
Cons: (taking a deep breath)
The voice quality on a connected call is horrible, with snaps, crackles, and pops.
The Wi-Fi antenna is horrible. Laptop connects at "Excellent signal strength" while the Note 3 displays "signal not stable/weak signal" and doesn't connect. Sometimes it also sits there stating, "verifying IP address" and never connects, while the laptop is connected fine.
There seems to be a slight delay between screen tap and execution of an app.
The SNote program is buggy, with templates you don't actually type into (i.e., lined paper template) as on the Note 2. The templates are more like wallpapers, and misaligned to the text (further giving you that feel that there's a disconnection between screen and input).
The KIES program is not backwards compatible. The 3.0 version does not support the Note 2's 2.6 version, making backup/restore from Note 2 onto Note 3 impossible. There's no way to get Native "phone" calendar entries on the Note 2 over to the Note 3. The Smartswitch app also doesn't transfer Note 2 native calendar entries over to the Note 3.
The web interface is buggy when trying to enter text in web forms. Text changes size as you're typjng, obscuring your view of what you're typing. Entering text within a web text field is difficult in landscape mode as there's one to two lines to work with because the screen keyboard/word detection and notification bar cover everything else. You can disable some of these in settings, but a like to see the time when I'm typing.
There is an obvious delay between tapping on a text entry field and and the Swype keyboard displaying.
Just my observations
John
And sometimes when i press the unlock button to turn the screen on it turns on super bright for a quick sec then dims back down to where i had it...not sure if its because i have it unclocked to run slower and screen off or not though....
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insane209 said:
I just got my Note 3 a few days ago (upgraded from the Note 2) and I am gonna list of what i think are my pros and cons about the Note 3. Feel free to post your opinions as well...
Pros:
*Speed & performance is smoother than the Note 2, the extra 1gb of ram and 2.3 snap dragon is nice.:good:
*Boot up is way quicker than the Note 2.
*I like the new back cover better than the Note 2 and design of the phone.
*The features on the camera are nice as well as the phone features.
Cons:
*Knox! Was using SetCPU on my rooted Note 3 & Knox kept force closing it with its security notification (unless your using a rom)
*The battery life sucks compared to the Note 2
*The stylus pen is harder to prey out of the phone itself
*The mic is badly placed on the lower left side and if your like me i hold it with my pinky and sometimes cover it up.
*The camera sucks at focusing up close shots, for example if im taking a up close shot of a paper with small writing.
*Phone runs hot sometimes on the upper back side of the phone around the camera area.
*Every time i disable the "transition animation scale" in the developer options....some how when i use the camera it re-enables it all the time.
This was all happening while being on stock non-rooted, hopefully in the future they fix these problems...but for now im actually thinking of going back to my Note 2
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you say you are rooted then you say this all happened while running stock, non-root. make up your mind.
only thing ive noticed that irritates me is when i want to turn the screen off it takes an extra second or 2... :good:
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you say you are rooted then you say this all happened while running stock, non-root. make up your mind.
only thing ive noticed that irritates me is when i want to turn the screen off it takes an extra second or 2... :good:
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Majority of it happen on stock, except the setcpu
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insane209 said:
And sometimes when i press the unlock button to turn the screen on it turns on super bright for a quick sec then dims back down to where i had it...not sure if its because i have it unclocked to run slower and screen off or not though....
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Try turning off Auto Screen Brightness and see if it still happens.
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Try turning off Auto Screen Brightness and see if it still happens.
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Not on auto
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Not on auto
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And also the loud speaker is poorly placed at the bottom so when i play a game on it landscape mode i tend to cover it up
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I just got my SGS3 second hand two days ago and currently it runs great but I feel something is off. The glass on the screen (while smooth) feels rough when I swipe my finger to operate phone but other than that I dont feel the screen responsiveness / accuracy is where it should be. There is a slight delay that is starting to bug me because it doesnt feel as seamless as it should be. Its running stock XXBLG8 unooted. Could it be the stock firmware or kernel? Im hoping its a software issue that will be fixed with an update since I never had this issue before
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I just got my SGS3 second hand two days ago and currently it runs great but I feel something is off. The glass on the screen (while smooth) feels rough when I swipe my finger to operate phone but other than that I dont feel the screen responsiveness / accuracy is where it should be. There is a slight delay that is starting to bug me because it doesnt feel as seamless as it should be. Its running stock XXBLG8 unooted. Could it be the stock firmware or kernel? Im hoping its a software issue that will be fixed with an update since I never had this issue before
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uncheck power saving, that ought to solve your problem. imo even though cpu power saving claims to only affect the phone when under heavy usage...it gives a speed boost even in swiping between screens.
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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I couldn't agree more. You can gripe about the plastic casing, maybe. Other than that, LG knocked it out of park. The negative reviews are asinine. It's their opinion, that's mine
I was a little bummed/tricked by the single speaker even though it looks like there are two but no biggie. Completely agree with the rest! ?
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I can't disagree with anything said here. Thumbs up.
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insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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2 and 3 were in the note 2 last year , just saying...
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barondebxl said:
2 and 3 were in the note 2 last year , just saying...
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#2 was on the Optimus G and the Optimus Vu (Intuition) last year, just saying
#8 can be achieved with any phone using Samba filesharing app.
Just saying
Can #9 be confirmed? And is it referring to the S4i's or S4a's because to my knowledge the regular S4's don't have any buttons.
Edit: #9!! Meant to say #9.
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insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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Actually, 1 is bigger on the s notes, but I'm not sure about them being better.
2 is already available
3 Yep
4 No idea what you meant
5 Already on windows phone
6 I've thought of this since 3 years ago and LG actually came up with it. It's great, but it has some downs.
7 Hell yes
8 Yeaa
9 N/A
10 Already on S4 etc
11 iPhone has it, if I'm not wrong.
12 This is really good, but I have big hands so not gonna use it much. The customisability is good for people coming from sammy.
13 There is actually built in screen off animations, like CRT, which almost all cyanogenmods use.
14 You can choose unlock animation, which is cool imo. I love the white hole animation.
15 Awesome notification lights. On front and back, so whether it's face up or face down you get the message.
16 Aspect ratio correction. Because the screen is actually 1080 x 1770 or something like that because of the on screen buttons, LG thought it'll be useful.
17 Quiet mode. Is it on any other phones? I think it's really useful.
The G2 is probably the most customisable phone on stock software out there. Love or hate, your call.
Cyanogen was my first taste I got of Quiet hours and I really missed it on TouchWiz so I was happy to see it here.
These things may be on other phones and/or available with apps but it is pretty dang nice to get them from the start in one package.
insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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1) Note line and maxx line already achieved this.
2) Note line (probably others)
3) Note line again. Not sure why 3rd party keyboards don't have an option for this. I love a number row.
4) New afaik(actually nice since if you do it in different spots it doesn't leave a grease trail showing your pattern)
5) New and cool
6) Meh. Not sure its a positive
7) Others have had 'good' but its one of the first implementations of OIS.
8) I think some people were saying this is a JB feature.
9) err... ok
10) been there, done that.
11) That is really nice. Haven't seen it before
12) You mean changing the soft buttons?
The g2 puts a lot of good ideas together, but its not terribly innovative all on its own. At least its better than samsungs "you can make a video wall out of note 3's!" Lol.
#11 !!!!!!
thanks for pointing this out!... I like the concept of auto-brightness. especially when I turn it on at night to look at something, but auto brightness has ALWAYS made the screen too dim for me. Been waiting for someone to implement this setting forever!
I like the phone a lot too... minus the software. LG really killed the experience with all the unnecessary clutter features. Anxiously awaiting the CM treatment!
+Brad Piff Why do you say "minus the software"? What don't you like about the software? I am thinking about getting the G2.
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I had a Nexus4 running CM before this (R.I.P), so you kinda get a feel for what my preferences are. CM is powerful but simple.
For one, there's a lot of bloat software on the G2... granted that's with any phone you get from a provider. I'm not a fan of how LG did all the setting menus... being so accustomed to stock Android. The dialer is nice. I don't like how the front touch home button works (long hold for app switching, short hold+swipe for Google Now) and the far right button being Settings. I don't like the Notification pull down window... I want it to be clean, but it has Screen Brightness/Phone Volume built in.
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I had a Nexus4 running CM before this (R.I.P), so you kinda get a feel for what my preferences are. CM is powerful but simple.
For one, there's a lot of bloat software on the G2... granted that's with any phone you get from a provider. I'm not a fan of how LG did all the setting menus... being so accustomed to stock Android. The dialer is nice. I don't like how the front touch home button works (long hold for app switching, short hold+swipe for Google Now) and the far right button being Settings. I don't like the Notification pull down window... I want it to be clean, but it has Screen Brightness/Phone Volume built in.
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Thankfully most of the gripes the majority of people have with the stock software bloat can be removed by mods and/or custom ROM we already have available. The only thing we cant really get around at this time if the menu button issue. Many probably wont care though coming from other phones with a physical menu button still anyway, but those of us who got used to the stock Android feel since ICS are now missing the way menu is supposed to work.
What custom ROMs do you speak of? I've only seen one really.
brad piff said:
I like the phone a lot too... minus the software. LG really killed the experience with all the unnecessary clutter features. Anxiously awaiting the CM treatment!
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Nova Launcher + Holo Locker - QSlide = Happy Camper
I know some of the features been on other phone or on custom ROMS's but the combination make it great for me.
I should mention the down sides though.. all the crappy stock apps, are memory hog.
Message app still needs work. keyboard and message box take up most of the view
BLOAT BLOAT AND MORE BLOAT!!!
This phone has a built-in flash light accessible via widget. I had seen it in TiBu bit couldn't know how to launch it until just now when I went rummaging through the widget list. Now if we could just add it as a toggle in the notification area! Another great easter egg!
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During a call my screen turns off like normal but just recently when it turns off, I can't turn it back on even when pressing the power or home button. There are rare occasions where even when I'm not on the phone, I can't turn the screen on.. It always results in a battery pull then it works fine again. My phone was normal and working perfectly and I haven't done any mods.. Kinda weird, anyone with input on this?
I'm rooted running version 2 Jbomb, 2.3 beastmode kernel, mj4. Could it maybe be these apps that cause this, lux, gravity screen, light flow.. Those are the 3 main apps that are always running.
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During a call my screen turns off like normal but just recently when it turns off, I can't turn it back on even when pressing the power or home button. There are rare occasions where even when I'm not on the phone, I can't turn the screen on.. It always results in a battery pull then it works fine again. My phone was normal and working perfectly and I haven't done any mods.. Kinda weird, anyone with input on this?
I'm rooted running version 2 Jbomb, 2.3 beastmode kernel, mj4. Could it maybe be these apps that cause this, lux, gravity screen, light flow.. Those are the 3 main apps that are always running.
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Sounds like you may have some gremlins. I would do a clean install of your ROM and install those 3 apps 1 at a time checking for the problem to repeat. Joshes ROMs are typically very clean. Could be the Beastmode kernel also.
MobDad said:
Sounds like you may have some gremlins. I would do a clean install of your ROM and install those 3 apps 1 at a time checking for the problem to repeat. Joshes ROMs are typically very clean. Could be the Beastmode kernel also.
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I'm currently trying the lean kernel.. So far it hasn't happened yet.. Hope it stays this way
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Nope. Most likely dirt in your proximity sensor. Try blowing real hard in the ear piece or use one if those air cans. Mine does the same and it sounds like a lot of people have the same issue
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I can guarantee it's. Gravity Screen. I use both Lux and Gravity Screen and I'm on a Nexus 4. Google brought me here. I was hoping I'd find something in the gravity screen thread but search isn't picking anyone talking about it.
fwiw I only use it for the Keep Screen On by motion so any the other features are unchecked.
I also use an app called screebl which is more reliable and has been around much longer but I flip between the two.
Screebl also got completely rewritten recently so I'm thinking it's probably the more reliable of the two since it's been around longer.
Aside from that I'm thinking it might be the Running During Call checkbox since it's the only other checkbox checked.
I'd disabled the other settings by moving the sliders to zero (per the developer) and unchecking everything but the 2 checkboxes for keeping screen on by motion-left its slider at 50.
...so either uncheck that ringer checkbox. If that doesn't work it's a bug with the app.
It's inherent to almost any Samsung phone. My SII did it. My S4 did it. My Note 3 does it.
It has to do with the proximity sensor changing too quickly.
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It's inherent to almost any Samsung phone. My SII did it. My S4 did it. My Note 3 does it.
It has to do with the proximity sensor changing too quickly.
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Sometimes it cuts both ways, with the rare occasion of the screen not waking up when a call comes in. If you're running deep sleep app, sometimes that can be the culprit. I still use it, though.
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Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
After a few days of use, I realize what a good decision it was to move the power button. I am right handed but hold phone in my left hand.
I felt the same about the fp sensor so I am using face unlock now and surprised how fast it works.
I am getting close to 7 hours of SoT which is about 1.5 - 2 hours more for me than the Note9.
Not sure if I can suggest anything for battery issue. I was getting the same before I debloated as I am getting now after debloating. However, this time around on Note10+ I got rid of a lot of Google apps and using MS apps instead. I know Chrome use to eat more battery than the Samsung Browser or IE and I started to get a lot of notifications about Maps using a lot of background battery.
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Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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I would have liked a regular finger print circle or a spot, but I don't need to turn on the screen for the finger print to unlock Note10.
bonstio said:
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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Most of that you knew before buying. So why did you switch?
AndroidUser00110001 said:
After a few days of use, I realize what a good decision it was to move the power button. I am right handed but hold phone in my left hand.
I felt the same about the fp sensor so I am using face unlock now and surprised how fast it works.
I am getting close to 7 hours of SoT which is about 1.5 - 2 hours more for me than the Note9.
Not sure if I can suggest anything for battery issue. I was getting the same before I debloated as I am getting now after debloating. However, this time around on Note10+ I got rid of a lot of Google apps and using MS apps instead. I know Chrome use to eat more battery than the Samsung Browser or IE and I started to get a lot of notifications about Maps using a lot of background battery.
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My thoughts exactly.
No complaints about the power button placement.
Only wish fingerprint sensor is as fast/responsive as it is on Note9
The wifi strength of my note 10 is significantly worse. My previous note 9 had a good signal in my bedroom or my floor ,but note's 10 signal is very frustrating as it is missing in these places at all.
Otherwise problems are all the above. I'm right handed so the effort to turn off the screen is frustrating.
An no heart rate sensor anymore!!
For those that don't like the power button on the left (and are right handed) just use your middle finger from the back of the phone to turn the screen off.
I use nova prime and have setup double tap = screen off so I hardly notice any more.
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daddymikey1975 said:
For those that don't like the power button on the left (and are right handed) just use your middle finger from the back of the phone to turn the screen off.
I use nova prime and have setup double tap = screen off so I hardly notice any more.
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Interesting...is Nova Prime a theme?
As to the OP's post, you'll learn and discover the new stuffs. The only upside I've seen is the 12gig ram that makes it running smoother when it comes to using two apps.
Ziken said:
Interesting...is Nova Prime a theme?
As to the OP's post, you'll learn and discover the new stuffs. The only upside I've seen is the 12gig ram that makes it running smoother when it comes to using two apps.
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Nova Prime is a launcher that allows gestures and other customization options.
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daddymikey1975 said:
Nova Prime is a launcher that allows gestures and other customization options.
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Kool.. I'll look into that.
bonstio said:
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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Use double tap to wake, lift to wake, and fingerprint for turning on the screen
Install one handed operation+ , and you have a lot of options for turning off the screen, I use diagonal down long swipe for it. I rarely use the power button anymore, even on my note 9 i didn't use power button much.
fingerprint in front of device is way more useful. you just need to get used to it.
So, I just got a note 10+ yesterday. The hardware is impressive, but the software sucks sack. I'm extremely frustrated with EVERYTHING being tied to google play services on these newer devices. Disable apps = battery drain. Put apps to sleep = unwanted samsung apps running in the background. Modify system app permissions = battery drain. Touch google play services = battery drain. Can't even wipe the damn cache without a bunch of samsung garbage starting up in the background. This company went from samsung to samsux.
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So, I just got a note 10+ yesterday. The hardware is impressive, but the software sucks sack. I'm extremely frustrated with EVERYTHING being tied to google play services on these newer devices. Disable apps = battery drain. Put apps to sleep = unwanted samsung apps running in the background. Modify system app permissions = battery drain. Touch google play services = battery drain. Can't even wipe the damn cache without a bunch of samsung garbage starting up in the background. This company went from samsung to samsux.
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You have MORE battery drain after disabling/sleeping apps? That makes no sense. Do you have before & after battery logs to prove that?
What is your average SOT and standby time?
Google Play Services are always active, but do not significantly drain battery. All Android phones will have Google Play Services running in the background. If you don't want Google Play Services, then you get a phone that can be bootloader unlocked and flash something like LineageOS, which has Google Play Services stripped from the ROM.
I came from a Note 9 and no issues at all with my Note 10+. On Friday I was at 6 hours 45min sot and was at 50% ony battery.
Is it work the upgrade over the note 9? Why it is love and the new stuff is great it dapens on the price. I got mine from Best buy $300 off and $200 monthly credit. So that price went from $1,100 to $600. Is a $600 upgrade over the note 9 worth it? Absolutely. $1100 upgrade? God no.
My note 9 was no longer under warranty. Prices are dropping so now was the time. Sold that note 9 for $350. So in total $250 to get into my note 10+ when all is said and done. But that price will go up since I'll lose some of that $200 credit when I go with a note 20+ ultra. But I'll wait till best buy outs them on sale this time next year and do the same.
No complaints here. I love the note 10+.
Just work with it. With the fingerprint sensor and always on display you don't really need to use the power button other than to turn the screen off. The fingerprint sensor placement feels much more natural to me now and can turn on the screen.
the worse thing for me is no LED notification light. That apps trying to replicate this work sometimes...not others. And only for short periods due to screen burn. BRING BACK LED LIGHTS
Had the Zenfone 9 for a little while and thought I'd share some thoughts. Been using the device for as my main machine for basic work (email, document writing, ssh/remote management, video calling) and personal applications (social media, reading, watching videos, not gaming). Here's been my experience.
Size/Screen
despite people focusing on how compact the phone is it doesn't feel that small in a good way (especially compared to the iPhone mini). Screen size does not interfere with any applications I've used the phone for, even reading which I had some worries about before purchase. The biggest downside of the compact size I ran into was the typing experience, but that becomes much better with a keyboard that has good gesture support and some aggressive autocorrect. Overall it feels great in the hand as someone with large hands.
Visually the screen is sharp, has great viewing angles, and the brightness is good even for outdoor use in direct sunlight. I can't say much for the refresh rate since I keep it on 60 but I will say the DC dimming works a charm even if it's only available on 60 Hz mode. Touch is responsive and i haven't experienced any touch jitters, but the palm rejection is bad enough that I'd call the phone unusable without a case if you tend to hold the phone like I do.
Gesture Controll
As a long-time Oneplus user I do miss the 3 way switch for the ringer, but have found a compromise using the press and hold on the power button as a toggle between modes which has been working well for me. The other smart key functionality of swiping on the power button I've turned off as it's way too easy to accidentally activate when held in the right hand.
The screen off gestures for media control which I enjoyed on Oneplus are here in the Asus but are currently broken, the "ll" pause gesture instead reading out the time and not pausing the video for some reason, when that's fixed at least they are all very responsive.
The back double tap gesture is very inconsistent, I keep it on for the flashlight and haven't had any issues with false activations, but it often takes a few tries to activate.
Battery/Charging
Battery life has been good, getting through a day of heavy use without a problem on 60Hz mode. Charging is fast but does heat up the phone, I've kept mine on ultra steady charge mode which slows down charging to dispel heat and battery longevity issues (around 10W, normal steady charge is around 13W). The charger that came with the device is a C to C charger with a cable that works for data and power.
Performance
I'm not a mobile gamer so I've yet to push the processor in any meaningful way, badly optimized apps that I have had issues with in the past all work smoothly. Video playback/acceleration have been smooth as well as processing large file transfers. Boot up and restart times are very snappy.
Networking/Connectivity
No issues with my Canadian SIM, dual sim works fine. WiFi hasn't had problems with my WiFi 5 and 6 Routers even in dual channel mode which works seamlessly on dual channel networks connecting in both bands. 5G isn't widespread in my area so i haven't had a chance to test it, but 4G+ works as expected. On the physical ports side I have only been able to get USB 2 speeds out of the USB C port for file transfers which isn't really an issue for my use and the headphone jack packs a punch running my DT-770 80 ohms without a problem.
Cameras
They're definitely cameras, I'm not really a camera guy so I wouldn't know what to look for. I haven't had any noticable issues, photos do take a bit longer than my previous phones from pressing the button to the photo being taken but I assume that's because there's a lot more photo processing going on with newer phones. The back lenses do need to be wiped off most of the time since at least for me my fingers tend to naturally rest on them. Front camera also hasn't given me any issues but I'm not a huge fan of the metal ring inside which makes the hole punch more noticeable.
ZenUI
Played around with the launcher a bit before switching off of it, seems like a good relatively stock Android experience with some quality of life improvements. Hasn't given me a reason to switch away from Niagra launcher though (which works great on this device). The pull down menu looks good but could use a bit more in the way of customizability, notifications are a bit intrusive on the smaller screen but the smaller notifications option fixes that pretty well in exchange for needing to pull down the notification shade for quick access. Some other small gripes are that the bar underneath the keyboard is unable to be turned off is quite large relative to the screen height and in the activities view the app icons are above the apps which makes things like locking apps a bit difficult one handed.
Overall
This phone is definitely a purchase I don't regret, all the issues I've had thus far are definitely fixable through updates. I haven't had any of the hardware issues I've heard others mention like rattly volume buttons. Hopefully it does well enough for Asus to consider giving it longer support and the attention it needs to get its minor current issues fixed, or at least well enough to get decent support for third party roms. The price even importing the device from HK to Canada is very competitive for what you get. If there as any benchmarks people want me to run or questions they have about the device I'll keep an eye on the responses. Also if anyone has fixes for the issues mentioned I'm all ears (palm rejection, media control, etc...)
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
Purchased from mi4canada, came quick via DHL from HK and at a good price by Canadian import standards. It's unclear when the device will officially make its way to Canada, the zenfone 8 took a long while.
efkosk said:
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
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So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
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Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
Nexr0n said:
Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
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no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
efkosk said:
no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
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Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
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Thank you very much for your effort and time!
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no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Just wanted to add from my experience. I've been using nova launcher prime since I got the phone (over a week ago). And I have noticed that rarley but sometimes when you press the home button or unlock the screen you will get a blank screen showing only the wallpaper and only after you press the home button for a second time will the home screen actually load.
FYI I am using the navigation bar (buttons) and not the gesture one (I just hate the incompatibility with a lot of swipe supported apps e.g. Gmail, Solid Explorer etc ) so take it with a grain of salt if you use gesture you might not encounter this problem.
I have also encountered some other minor bugs but overall I am very pleased with the phone coming from my Galaxy S10.
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Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
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Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
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Haven't experienced this issue with Niagra after over a week of use now (or on previous phones I've put it on), may be an issue with your launcher. A second delay would be very noticable.
Cheers for the review - very helpful as am considering getting one.
Looking around at the benchmarks from different reviews, the scores vary quite a bit. It looks like it depends on which performance mode it's in - high performance mode vs dynamic mode, and according to Anandtech the Zenfone 8's performance would also change depending on which refresh rate you had it in. But many reviewers haven't said what mode or refresh rate they've been using.
Could you perhaps run the Jetstream 2.0 benchmark (opens and runs in the website) and/or PCMark Work 3.0 (play store) in dynamic performance mode? In 120hz would be fantastic or in 60hz would still be good either.
It's a bit of pain and would take your time so perfectly understandable if you don't want to, so would like to say thanks for the review anyway!
@Plasmac
All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
Dew,
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All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
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Thank you very much for doing all those. It's really appreciated.
The non-performance mode isn't reducing the performance by much at all. That settles it for me then, the Anandtech review of the 8 put me off, but it seems tsmc 4nm has allowed good performance and decent battery life, so the 9 it is.
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The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
RestlessScreams said:
The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
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Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
Nova Launcher
Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
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There’s a lot to like about the way the Zenfone 9 looks. The obvious starting place is the size – thanks to using a small 5.9in display this is a small phone by modern standards, and at 169g it’s also impressively lightweight.
At 9.1mm thick it’s not the thinnest phone around, but you’d certainly not call it chunky, and that very slight extra thickness feels irrelevant once you factor in how compact the phone is overall.
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efkosk said:
Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
Nova Launcher
Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
forum.xda-developers.com
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Sadly didn't work either. But from what I've read it's Google's fault and may have been fixed with A13, so maybe there's hope for the Z9 too