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I have an Asus Transformer Primes on pre-order. My big question is whether I am better off waiting until it comes loaded with ICS or if buying now with honeycomb and upgrading when ICS is available. Will I lose anything by upgrading rather than starting off with ICS fully loaded?
Thanks very much for any thoughts you might be willing to share.
jgf711 said:
I have an Asus Transformer Primes on pre-order. My big question is whether I am better off waiting until it comes loaded with ICS or if buying now with honeycomb and upgrading when ICS is available. Will I lose anything by upgrading rather than starting off with ICS fully loaded?
Thanks very much for any thoughts you might be willing to share.
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I'd say get it now while you can. This device selling like hot cakes and will be very hard to find in stores or even online for a while. There is no diff. Getting one now then upgrading to ICS vs. Getting one with ICS already preloaded. If you wait, expect to have a chance of getting one mid January to mid febuary. Not worth the wait, IMO, of you are able to get one or preorder one now.
jgf711 said:
I have an Asus Transformer Primes on pre-order. My big question is whether I am better off waiting until it comes loaded with ICS or if buying now with honeycomb and upgrading when ICS is available. Will I lose anything by upgrading rather than starting off with ICS fully loaded?
Thanks very much for any thoughts you might be willing to share.
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Um why would you think you would lose something? No you will not lose anything. ICS is ICS, whether its an upgrade or pre-loaded.
The only thing you will lose by ordering now is your sanity as you try to track one down and then wait for it to come.
get it while you can! It may be several months before stock is steady.
[UPDATE: A Verizon spokesman told Wireless and Mobile News that an update for the Rezound will not be rolling out over the holiday weekend; he could not confirm a date when the device would get ICS.]
don't really care anymore. given up on VZ after the 6th.
i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
sogone209 said:
i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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Do you really believe they would have released an update while the Rezound has been on sale from last week through today. The release of ICS would not have been done until the sale is over. Otherwise you would have had units being sent out without ICS from the early part of the sale and then sent some out at the end of the sale with ICS. It would have complicated everything, now the sale is over they can address thier attention to releasing ICS. Well at least I hope.
I don't think that Verizon promised this update on 4/6/2012. Wasn't this a Best Buy bogus post for both the Razr getting ICS on 4/4 and the Rezpund 4/6, neither of whaich was true. I have not read anywhere that Verizon published this release date for ICS for the Rezound.
It wasn't confirmed by anybody but a BB poster which had no evidence behind it anyway.
sogone209 said:
[UPDATE: A Verizon spokesman told Wireless and Mobile News that an update for the Rezound will not be rolling out over the holiday weekend; he could not confirm a date when the device would get ICS.]
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Seeing as how the weekend is already over, i could've told you the same thing. This just in.... The ICS update will be rolling out sometime after right now (For all phones that don't already have it, but are slated to get it). But i can't tell you when.
sogone209 said:
i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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Doubt this. Majority of VZW customers don't even know wtf ICS is, yet alone what they run on their phone.
sogone209 said:
i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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And you have proof there's an update done? Did you return your phone over a bogus leaked picture from Best Buy?
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[UPDATE: A Verizon spokesman told Wireless and Mobile News that an update for the Rezound will not be rolling out over the holiday weekend; he could not confirm a date when the device would get ICS.]
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all speculation and rumors at this point. im telling you guys, i don't expect it until at least summer.
I honestly don't care anymore. I have fully working ICS on my Rezound. If they never officially released it, I wouldn't care much since I already have it. What would be nice however, is if they dropped the source code on us for the leaks that are already floating around.
I still don't understand the outrage that some people have over it. I mean, the people that care about it are here or on other sites that have info about rooting and development - so if you want ICS - go get it. The rest of the people - they probably don't care because they just want their device to work, and it does out of the box untouched. It works pretty darn well too.
sogone209 said:
i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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lmfao i guarantee you they lost 0 customers due to this. hahahaha
Not that I care....much, but are purchased Rezounds being shipped with ICS? I had to take advantage of the sale.
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Not that I care....much, but are purchased Rezounds being shipped with ICS? I had to take advantage of the sale.
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negative...
I even picked one up on this sale and I still do not have 4G out her on Long Island. Hardware it is fine, Dev support is better than the prior units I am switching from, so It can only be better on our end.
everyone i've spoken with says that they barely sell any rezounds anyway. that's this area, so ymmv.
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everyone i've spoken with says that they barely sell any rezounds anyway. that's this area, so ymmv.
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Shame it's a good phone... I was going to pick up a Nexus til I started seeing the issues they were having. Couldn't be happier with my choice to get a Rezound instead.
this is so far my fav phone period but i honestly doubt vzw will ever bother pushing ics onto this thing. if they do though, it'll be in the distant future when ics becomes standard on most devices.
Why care about a bloated up release from VZW that has an older version of Sense? When there are several awesome Sense 4.0 roms that run smooth as butter available for us to flash. Get with the times brotha.
I hate to add another country to the list, but do any Sony Tablet S owners in Canada have the update yet? I have been restarting and hitting the update button for the last two days and still nothing. I know they said Japan and US were suppose to get it in the next two days and Europe in a couple weeks (that's what I heard), but what about Canada? Do we full under to US umbrella?
no updates in Alberta so far.....
i remember seeing someone saying that Canada wont be getting the update until May 3rd, in one of the posts in "How many user have received ICS update" topic
yea sony said may 3rd : ( that sucks....
May 3rd for Canada? Where did they say that?
Sent from my Sony Tablet S using XDA Premium HD app
Still nothing for Canada
Guess im not the only one not getting the update.....
One more week
I'm in Newfoundland and didn't get it. I got a little frustrated and used Condi's tool to change my region to the US and then just get the OTA update. It worked flawlessly and immediately!!
My recommendation: You guys do it too! The ICS update for the Tablet S is the greatest update I've ever seen a piece of electronics receive. Everything runs WAY better, the new features are fantastic, my battery life is (strangely) much better, the keyboard input issues are totally fixed, and then you can get google chrome as well.
I nearly bought a new tablet every weekend, but this update totally saved it. I'm now a reborn sony fan and will definitely wait to get their next tab now.
...Now if you'll excuse me I have to go THANK every post Condi has ever made lol. Stop praying for that UPDATE SYSTEM button to work and just go the root method
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MarkB709 said:
I'm in Newfoundland and didn't get it. I got a little frustrated and used Condi's tool to change my region to the US and then just get the OTA update. It worked flawlessly and immediately!!
My recommendation: You guys do it too! The ICS update for the Tablet S is the greatest update I've ever seen a piece of electronics receive. Everything runs WAY better, the new features are fantastic, my battery life is (strangely) much better, the keyboard input issues are totally fixed, and then you can get google chrome as well.
I nearly bought a new tablet every weekend, but this update totally saved it. I'm now a reborn sony fan and will definitely wait to get their next tab now.
...Now if you'll excuse me I have to go THANK every post Condi has ever made lol. Stop praying for that UPDATE SYSTEM button to work and just go the root method
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Can you access the ps store?
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Can you access the ps store?
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Hmm, I never tried that... But I just tested it and yes, it works.
Unfortunately it's still the same catalog of games there lol. I wish the entire selection that's on PSN was there but oh well
I just talked with Sony Support today and asked when ICS would get released for the Canadian Tablet S. They told me May 10th (I guess the same as Europe). Anyone know why they would release it so much later for the rest of the world than for US and Japan? I can only hope our update will have all the bugs worked out from the US release lol
@MarkB: Did you lose root after you did the upgrade?
Has anybody in Canada done the rooted ICS steps on the AiO post? What have your results been?
I just finally got root, so I'm a little bit gunshy on updates yet.
Thanks!
I went through the complete steps and things worked out fine. Unfortunately Im having issues with some of my apps thought (but I doubt its related)
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@MarkB: Did you lose root after you did the upgrade?
Has anybody in Canada done the rooted ICS steps on the AiO post? What have your results been?
I just finally got root, so I'm a little bit gunshy on updates yet.
Thanks!
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Yes you WILL lose root when doing the ota update for US region. I only rooted to change the region to get the update tho, so no 'loss' for me.
I'd say someone will eventually figure out how to root the ICS rom anyways, so no big dealo
Thanks MarkB. Still considering setting up the AiO Rooted ICS, or saving that until the Canadian update is released.
I used to follow the PSP Hacking scene, and when a hack was opened for a previous version, the rule was to ALWAYS wait for a hacked update. I think Sony spends more time locking its software down than developing new stuff...
Good to hear that we have something to look forward to!
--Databoy2k
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Thanks MarkB. Still considering setting up the AiO Rooted ICS, or saving that until the Canadian update is released.
I used to follow the PSP Hacking scene, and when a hack was opened for a previous version, the rule was to ALWAYS wait for a hacked update. I think Sony spends more time locking its software down than developing new stuff...
Good to hear that we have something to look forward to!
--Databoy2k
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If you can wait, then definitely do that! lol
I couldn't wait... I knew sony said "the end of april" for the release date, so I was getting off work and nailing that System update button every 20 mins for the past week. I'm just way too impatient and couldn't wait any longer haha.
Anyways, Tegra 3 with a 1280x800 screen and 1GB of RAM isn't evnough of a boost to upgrade now. The next thing to get excited for is to see what Sony's next tablet is going to be like... and I believe we'll be seeing it soon enough
Is content on the stores locked by the device? In other words do you currently see movies and such that other Canadian tablets don't see?
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Is content on the stores locked by the device? In other words do you currently see movies and such that other Canadian tablets don't see?
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Everything seems to be exactly the same concerning market content.
a second tech from sony told me the release for Canada would be this week.
Hopefully someone with a rooted Honeycomb tablet can use the ALLinONE Tool to download the encrypted OTA update so we can pre-root it.
I didn't bother waiting and installed the US pre-root.
Are you still around or did you abandon us and move on? A quick update of any progess would be nice at this point.
I think an attorney snooping around ASSUS files would get some action. Time to make some demands or look into class action.
This is no way to treat a cash paying customer.
Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
Make no mistake, I am by far one of the biggest critic of Asus & heck... Gary too...
Also, I've kept saying this for a while... "Gary is marketing/PR person. He is here for dmg control"
He wasn't here to "HELP" or whatever, nor can he really give an insight into anything... this is XDA, if Asus really wanted to help us... S/W or Engineer would have been in this board... NOT A MARKETING guy.
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Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
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Yeah the prime has been out for sooooooooooooo loooooonnnngggg !!
Its hardly old ! Alot of primes are still under warranty...
I've now unlocked so my warranty is void (perhaps what asus want from everyone really) but i dont consider the prime to be an old device.
I agree that Gary was only here to calm the flames though, as you rightly say theres no point sending a marketing guy .. i honnestly think his purpose was to keep us quiet for a while. and it worked!
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Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
Make no mistake, I am by far one of the biggest critic of Asus & heck... Gary too...
Also, I've kept saying this for a while... "Gary is marketing/PR person. He is here for dmg control"
He wasn't here to "HELP" or whatever, nor can he really give an insight into anything... this is XDA, if Asus really wanted to help us... S/W or Engineer would have been in this board... NOT A MARKETING guy.
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Spot on mate, GARY is not ASUS, he just represents/works for them.
Abandon all hope!!
I have pmd and sent Gary emails recently also the other person he said to contact (asus_usa) with no response from either.
My prime has had the infamous wifi issue which actually got worse through updates---it is sitting in RMA AFTER a LEVEL3 TECH AT ASUS said they would treat it as warranty even though i had unlocked the bootloader
Its status is waiting o customer-out of warranty/customer induced damage----it has been there almost 1 month!!!
A person in rma said it is going to cost me 165 for motherboard and 40?? not sure the exact figure labor WTF. She also said after last email she would look into it and reply ASAP--that was last week Thursday
I feel I have been lied to, misled, and ripped off!!!
happened last month as well a month in between cryptic messages, honestly give up on Asus Already we have had these devices nearly a year now and support has been horrible how long since we got an update again?, if you want something less buggy grab CM10 or Hairybean and call it a day, ASUS will slap JB on the device and probably be done with it, whenever that happens
Since everyone's prime has a year warrenty then I'd say all Primes are still under warrenty. My Prime runs just fine. Not compalining it would be nice to get an update of some sort.
Here in Germany we have 2 years implied warranty. So there is over 1 year until the first warranty runs out.
shinzz said:
Not sure what you guys are expecting this late in Prime's life..
Make no mistake, I am by far one of the biggest critic of Asus & heck... Gary too...
Also, I've kept saying this for a while... "Gary is marketing/PR person. He is here for dmg control"
He wasn't here to "HELP" or whatever, nor can he really give an insight into anything... this is XDA, if Asus really wanted to help us... S/W or Engineer would have been in this board... NOT A MARKETING guy.
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Late in Prime's life?
It's a 9 Month old Tablet, with better specs than most things out there running JB already. Not to mention that the hardware it's pretty much the same as the other Transformers.
Honestly, how many updates have been promised/delivered to your phones in its first year. The transformer prime has already gotten more updates than any of the phones I've had. And JB was confirmed for us shortly after Google announced it. I have a flagship phone from last year and it only just got official ICS. Asus supports there hardware better than any company. God forbid they make JB as stable as possible.
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msfguard said:
...support has been horrible how long since we got an update again?...
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It has been exactly 98 days. That is really not very long at all, particularly when you take into account that its a major release rather than just a minor update to the existing OS. Think of all the phones out there that were released after the TP that have not even seen ICS yes let alone JB. You folks are update addicts.
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It has been exactly 98 days. That is really not very long at all, particularly when you take into account that its a major release rather than just a minor update to the existing OS. Think of all the phones out there that were released after the TP that have not even seen ICS yes let alone JB. You folks are update addicts.
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It is a long time if you consider that the Prime is suffering from several software related issues which should have been fixed several months ago. ASUS should be pushing out patches every few weeks until the tablet is working as advertised.
I don't recall seeing in the Ads for this tablet that "You can expect ANR messages constantly when browsing, or your tablet will be unusable when the Play Store is updating all your apps! Yes you to can enjoy these great features all for a low price of $500! But wait theres more... If you order now, you can enjoy completely random reboots at no extra charge!"
It has been almost a year since its release... the prime should be stable as hell right now, but that is not the reality. I am not usually one to complain about these types of things, but even I am getting frustrated with the lack of fixes. Really hoping that JB will solve all of these problems and make the tablet work as it should have from day one.
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It has been exactly 98 days. That is really not very long at all, particularly when you take into account that its a major release rather than just a minor update to the existing OS. Think of all the phones out there that were released after the TP that have not even seen ICS yes let alone JB. You folks are update addicts.
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Yes, and how many of those phones have crazy QC & wide range of issues like Prime? Plus, you are forgetting that most are on Android 4.04 (final & most stable version of ICS....)
Also, lets stop this argument of "Asus updated often compared to all other device".
While it might be true, it also means PRIME had ton of issues/bugs to fix through updates..... however, the updates only added more issues instead of resolving them.
Plus, those looking for GARY to solve everything... he won't, and he can't. HE IS JUST MARKETING GUY. Nothing more, nothing less...
Those thinking JB will resolve all of your current issue... IT ALSO WON'T. S/W cannot fix H/W issue...... If you have crap WIFI.. blah blah blah... it'll be crap with JB as well.
And to those who keep saying.. "mine works fine, ppl are blowing things out of proportion". No, we are not. Glad you have a working product that suits your need.... but... DUE TO CRAZY QC issue, there are MANY.. I mean MANY who have absolute garbage device. Yes, we all tried calling customer support, contact gary/asus_tien, ***** at where we purchased our tablet, RMA... blah blah blah for refund or whatever.
Smurphjw said:
Honestly, how many updates have been promised/delivered to your phones in its first year. The transformer prime has already gotten more updates than any of the phones I've had. And JB was confirmed for us shortly after Google announced it. I have a flagship phone from last year and it only just got official ICS. Asus supports there hardware better than any company. God forbid they make JB as stable as possible.
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I might suggest that "more updates than any other phone" is not a good thing.
All these updates are band-aids for the TF201 beta that should never have been released in the first place.
Poor decisions by an even poorer company.
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Since everyone's prime has a year warrenty then I'd say all Primes are still under warrenty. My Prime runs just fine. Not compalining it would be nice to get an update of some sort.
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Not the unlocked crowd...
knowaczark said:
I might suggest that "more updates than any other phone" is not a good thing.
All these updates are band-aids for the TF201 beta that should never have been released in the first place.
Poor decisions by an even poorer company.
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How can constant sw updates to address issues be a bad thing? My epic touch has HORRIBLE battery life after the move from GB. You know what Samsung did? Called it quits on the s2. Asus is still pushing updates to the original transformer. Fixing issues with updates sounds like good practice to me.
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How can constant sw updates to address issues be a bad thing? My epic touch has HORRIBLE battery life after the move from GB. You know what Samsung did? Called it quits on the s2. Asus is still pushing updates to the original transformer. Fixing issues with updates sounds like good practice to me.
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s2 will get jb in next few months, hasnt been abandoned..
problem with the prime update is that the last update is unstable and has been so for 98 days from now. last time my prime came back from rma, software resetted and it gave crashes and SOD from the first day.
custom jb rom: no problems at all!
conclusion: bad software with no patches.
Smurphjw said:
Honestly, how many updates have been promised/delivered to your phones in its first year. The transformer prime has already gotten more updates than any of the phones I've had. And JB was confirmed for us shortly after Google announced it. I have a flagship phone from last year and it only just got official ICS. Asus supports there hardware better than any company. God forbid they make JB as stable as possible.
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You make that sound like a good thing. The reason the Prime received these updates is because the OS and possibly the hardware was horribly kludged. Every update was put out to address reboot, SoD, freezing issues, Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, the list goes on. It had nothing to do with improving functionality as much as it did giving the expected functionality to the unit.
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s2 will get jb in next few months, hasnt been abandoned..
problem with the prime update is that the last update is unstable and has been so for 98 days from now. last time my prime came back from rma, software resetted and it gave crashes and SOD from the first day.
custom jb rom: no problems at all!
conclusion: bad software with no patches.
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That's exactly what there trying to avoid this time around. 3 semi stable ICS updates that introduced new issues. Or 1 JB update that they test the crap out of. The reason its taking so long (which isn't really that long) is cuz prime owners have a tendency, rightfully so in SOME cases, to complain about everything. My point is there is no justified reason to complain about there software update practices.
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Yup, the Z3v is actually getting 5.1.1! The Z2 Tablet is as well. I never thought I'd see the day, but I'm happy for you guys! I personally have a Z1s on T-Mobile that I am still hoping gets 5.1, but I very much doubt it at this point.
Link to Droid-Life article: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/02/23/verizons-xperia-z3v-and-xperia-z2-tablet-both-get-lollipop/
Link to actual Verizon support page about the update: http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
It looks like this update is going to start rolling tomorrow according to some of the support pages saying February 24th.
Just read that article! Make sure to read the actual info from Verizon in the sources at the bottom.
Holy smokes! That article is funny. Woof indeed.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
WOW, IT'S REAL!
Now I hope this enables us to be able to access 5.1.1 mods from other Xperias.
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Just read that article! Make sure to read the actual info from Verizon in the sources at the bottom.
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Interesting
Verizon has the date of the update as of tomorrow(2/24) here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/software-updates/
and the update described here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
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Interesting
Verizon has the date of the update as of tomorrow(2/24) here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/software-updates/
and the update described here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
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Beat you to it.
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
WOW, IT'S REAL!
Now I hope this enables us to be able to access 5.1.1 mods from other Xperias.
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Do you think you'll be able to get a pre-rooted version of this? I'm in a quandary cause I have a replacement Z3V coming tomorrow. If this is released tomorrow maybe I'll just use stock until a root solution for 5.1.1 comes out. Advice?
I loved being proven wrong sometimes...this is one of those times.
The possibility exists they have patched the root exploits finally and that is why they are releasing it. I have a z2 Verizon tablet and at the moment there is no root for lollipop
Pleasantly surprised! Thought for sure this phone was done getting updates and i was stuck on nonrooted 5.0.2. I flashed it before rooting like an idiot
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Do you think you'll be able to get a pre-rooted version of this? I'm in a quandary cause I have a replacement Z3V coming tomorrow. If this is released tomorrow maybe I'll just use stock until a root solution for 5.1.1 comes out. Advice?
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I'm willing to give it a shot to preroot it once I get my hands on the FTF.
Thanks, GigaSPX. An you give a few examples?
Now that I have a second z3V I'm opened to testing some things, so long as there is a somewhat reasonable main of error against "embrickment". I might require more paience than most because of where I'm at on the learning curve.
BTW, this update pretty much fulfills both Sony and Verizon's obligations to the z3V stepchild as Iunderstand it, so most likely no Marshmallow just because this is coming, correct?
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Thanks, GigaSPX. An you give a few examples?
Now that I have a second z3V I'm opened to testing some things, so long as there is a somewhat reasonable main of error against "embrickment". I might require more paience than most because of where I'm at on the learning curve.
BTW, this update pretty much fulfills both Sony and Verizon's obligations to the z3V stepchild as Iunderstand it, so most likely no Marshmallow just because this is coming, correct?
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Well the future seems pretty bleak between Sony and Verizon over this phone because Sony is really just done trying to work with Verizon over these update issues. One thing I can definitely let you guys know though is there is a high likely chance the bootloader unlock is about to become a real thing.
Other than that, the Z series is finished now. No plans for the Z6 as Sony has transitioned their portfolio for the new X series. I somewhat knew that because of the X Performance specs, that has to be their latest flagship. Your guys' thoughts?
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Well the future seems pretty bleak between Sony and Verizon over this phone because Sony is really just done trying to work with Verizon over these update issues. One thing I can definitely let you guys know though is there is a high likely chance the bootloader unlock is about to become a real thing.
Other than that, the Z series is finished now. No plans for the Z6 as Sony has transitioned their portfolio for the new X series. I somewhat knew that because of the X Performance specs, that has to be their latest flagship. Your guys' thoughts?
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Do you have any info on if the Z1s bootloader is about to be able to be unlocked as well? That would be amazing and make the wait for my next phone sometime this year a lot easier.
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Anyone get it yet?
Z3v Software Update
Software Version: 23.4.B.0.319
and the surprise; i had an update message via sony bridge for like 2 month ago but i keep getting : error 1100 consult technical support … "when i try to upgrade"
Well what do you know there is an update, wonders never cease, will reserve further comments until it is actually confirmed rolling out.
Haven't gotten it yet here in Texas.
I guess the natives got to restless with the pitchforks and all.
Now just have to decide if I want the S5 or keep the Z3v, seeing this will more than likely be the last update this phone gets and the S5 will get Marshmallow for sure. And Advanced Calling 2.0 is right around the corner (Wi-Fi calling) and 5g.
If the bootloader gets unlocked then I would keep the Z3v, but the S5 has custom ROMs right now, root and bootstrap working.
Just got complicated.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...ver-the-air-bump-from-android-5-0-2-to-5-1-1/
Only article that says it will come in batches. I have both. I actually have to have my sim in my z2 tablet to even search for an update.
And of course I just sold mine, as in the last 10hrs
Why the presumption of the bootloader unlock possibility? How does the fact (yet to be proved) that they'll update to lollipop increase the odds that the bootloader will be unlocked?