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Are you tired of the constant updates lately? I didn't know if it would fix my prime or break it further I was just hoping for the best with 13,14, and 15. I was also hoping someone could hack the unlock key so I could still have my warranty. Well yesterday I got irritated and decided to unlock. The entire time I had second thoughts because I am unsure if this tablet will last a year without breaking lol, so I clicked through as fast as I could (after reading all the unlock ops.) Well as soon as I was unlocked I felt a whole lot better about my prime. Maybe I have just lost faith in Asus, I don't know but as soon as I loaded virtuous I felt more secure about my purchase. I guess I have finally come to the conclusion that Asus ISNT going to have a miracle fix for the prime that fixes all the problems and after asking someone through PM twice for a refund since I was dissatisfied with the product (only to get no response what so ever..) I decided I would make the best of what I have and stop worrying.
I don't know how to explain it but now that my device is unlocked all of my uncertainties are gone. I will keep this device for the next year or so and crack flash like there's no tomorrow!
If you are undecided on unlocking I say go for it. (Assuming you read the tutorials!!) I did and I am much happier.
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what isseues did you have in each firmware ?
and what`s your sn ?
Reboots, bad wifi range, zero GPS, screen flickering, lag in the UI, bad battery life. Some of these issues would come and go depending on the update.
C10 serial.
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I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
Interesting, i was to on the fence about unlocking. I returned my Prime the other day. I've never had wifi probs on any of mine. Just got fed up with random reboot and YouTube glitches and browser freezing. One had dead pixels and light bleed.
Might have to pick up another today. Why not make it 5 lol.
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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This. Yes more control over its fate lol. I tried to use rom manager but it wouldn't work for me. I did use vipers mod to unlock and install cmw. Virtuous is great, very stock feeling and buttery smooth. Ill let you know about the battery after a week or so of testing. I do like the 1.6 ghz overclock being the new performance mode. No screen flicker anymore either! It does seem very stable in the few hours I've tested it. Will update when I can.
Edit: GPS is just as dead as before zero birds.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone (only not nvflash lol)
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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*EDIT: see lol, figured I was wrong. I was mistaken, but it is what will allow us to recover from some s/w bricking.
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
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nelly1977 said:
I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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Definitely, I'm glad your having great luck with your prime! As far as battery life on vitreous rom, it seems VERY solid. Still no concrete numbers but its been on for about 12 hours with about 5 hours of usage and I have 68% battery. I've ran several benchmarks during this time as well. Seems quite a bit better!
Edit: by the way, I am in no way hating on the prime. I was so excited when I got it (one of bestbuys first batches!!!) But I've just had more problems than is normally acceptable even from a new product. I love my prime so much I'm just disappointed with a few critical features and was hoping Asus could somehow fix these issues. I am a HUGE techie and even though I can get about 27-32 mbs from my prime upstairs, all my other devices get a solid 42 mbs which makes me sad face! Lmao.
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I had the same feeling as the OP, except it was the first day the unlock tool came out.
I had wholly intended on unlocking it right away.
I also love experimenting, learning and tinkering with this, so I've flashed and reflashed about 100 things on my prime so far, and I could not ask for anything more
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
TF201
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Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
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I used a JB rom that worked very well, but BT audio streaming didnt work. It would pair, but not push the audio.
A full list of roms here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523719
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Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
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Seems to me that now is the time to wait a bit longer before going with a Custom Rom. The Asus 4.1 update is probably only a few weeks away and once the developers have that to work with the custom crowd will improve rapidly. So far, every time I read about a 4.1 ROM, it comes with a list of the things that are not working yet. So you will probably get a fully functional JB ROM from Asus first.
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Seems to me that now is the time to wait a bit longer before going with a Custom Rom. The Asus 4.1 update is probably only a few weeks away and once the developers have that to work with the custom crowd will improve rapidly. So far, every time I read about a 4.1 ROM, it comes with a list of the things that are not working yet. So you will probably get a fully functional JB ROM from Asus first.
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thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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AndroWook Prime 2.1
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AndroWook Prime 2.1
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I agree even though it's discontinued. Install it with the cayenne overclock. Rubs quickly and few if any force closes.
Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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is the cm10 unofficial uses JB already? i think i will try this ROM if androwook wont move up, so disappointing really... Thanks for the heads up..
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I agree even though it's discontinued. Install it with the cayenne overclock. Rubs quickly and few if any force closes.
Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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Virtuous is another solid ICS choice. I think it is still in development/supported. That said, I'm currently running AW2.1, too. I'm not looking to be on the cutting edge right now, I need a daily driver. I will probably go CM10 or with a modded stock ROM after the ASUS JB update drops. I'm really looking forward to JB.
Honestly I think ICS has been a BIG part of the problem for the Prime. Its image had already been tarnished with the hardware issues but the crashes and instability are much worse from a daily use standpoint. I got mine in January too and it was much more stable for me prior to ICS, the most recent build (.28) in fact has been a complete wreck on my device (I even wiped it and reinstalled .28 to try to get it going properly) and is what prompted me to unlock. Really, the hardware has been no problem on mine. The GPS is dead, but I actually knew it probably would be going in so it is not a biggie and my WiFi and BT are really no problem, Cameras are fine, etc. But not being able to basic things like web browsing and running GMail without crashing were a deal breaker.
I still get occasional reboots/flakiness with AW2.1 but it is based on ASUS ICS. I'm really hopeful for JB, as I mentioned since they seemed to have got it righ t on the N7.
Wifi
I just finished installing CM10 preview. I have been running it on my SIII for a couple days now and really like it. I'll report back in a few days with an update about the Prime running it.
I also ran into a problem getting wifi to work on any JB based ROM, going to the advanced tab in CWM and fixing permissions seemed to clear the problem up. Thought I would pass this info along, I couldn't find anybody reporting similar issues.
Ive been running JM CM10 Preview no cheery picks and every version gets better. it is a complete daily driver if you dont need Bluetooth streaming or NTFS support.
i haven't had any browser force closes, i can actually install multiple playstore apps at once and still use the playstore with out getting "playstore is not responding do you want to wait"
its fast and clean.
since Asus pretty much uses stock AOSP roms anyways, and the CM10 JB Preview is pretty much AOSP then I would wait personally for the Asus OTA for 4.1.
you get to keep your warranty and know that JB will resolve almost all the Force close issues wit browsers etc.
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thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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If the issue is the browser, why not just install Chrome on the stock ROM? Personally I have never really used the built in browser. I keep Dolphin around for the once in a while I need flash but otherwise use Chrome. Chrome is the default in 4.1 anyway.
Does the JB they will improve the wifi?
Increasing the signal?
Because I did not get one accessory that ASUS released.
Well I'm reading up on different phones and I was almost sold on the LG Nexus 4 until I read further into the no LTE issue and then it clicked that while it can come with 16 gigs of memory, it's internal and therefore if the phone dies violently...or just gets lost, I lost a lot of important pics should i not back up to my comp enough. Which I don't honestly.
So I'm reading up on this phone and it has everything I need except one hitch, it doesn't come stock with Jellybean. LGs site says it come with 4.0 ICS. So I'm wondering if it does get the OS update and if so to what version. That will honestly be the deal breaker on whether I commit to buying this device in the near future.
I know i could just read through this whole forum..but really I just want a simple answer with my making my head explode with all the extra info..cause my ADD hide will sit here and read everything out of boredom. And I'm just not in the mood tonight. Please and thank you!
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Well I'm reading up on different phones and I was almost sold on the LG Nexus 4 until I read further into the no LTE issue and then it clicked that while it can come with 16 gigs of memory, it's internal and therefore if the phone dies violently...or just gets lost, I lost a lot of important pics should i not back up to my comp enough. Which I don't honestly.
So I'm reading up on this phone and it has everything I need except one hitch, it doesn't come stock with Jellybean. LGs site says it come with 4.0 ICS. So I'm wondering if it does get the OS update and if so to what version. That will honestly be the deal breaker on whether I commit to buying this device in the near future.
I know i could just read through this whole forum..but really I just want a simple answer with my making my head explode with all the extra info..cause my ADD hide will sit here and read everything out of boredom. And I'm just not in the mood tonight. Please and thank you!
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Well, while there's not an "official" JB update yet, there are a few unofficial ones that are working quite well, as well as CM/AOSP in the making. You can also just convert it to a nexus (basically) if you'd like, so I'd say go for it personally. However I'll probably get flamed for even answering you because you should really search since there are probably about a million threads just like this. Just food for thought...
NEVER buy a phone for what it MIGHT do in the future...
The Optimus G will probably get JB in the future - but there is a slight chance it won't. And who knows when, could be months.
If you don't mind rooting and tinkering, there are a few ports that mostly (but not completely or perfectly) run JB now.
If that works for you, then there you go.
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If you need or really want JB, and don't feel like rooting, wait a few months for the next crop of super phones. By the time this gets official JB support, the next batch will already be here with faster processors, etc. However, if you do like to mod and root and tinker, as was mentioned, there are some developers working on AOSP and CM10.1. Hopefully that will be out by the end of this month, but we don't ask for or get ETA's around here...etiquette, and stuff.
Once that door opens, I would imagine the ROM's and custom development will take-off.
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I guess I should have worded my question differently. I should have said, has it gotten the update, rather than does it get it. But from the way it sounds, it has not. I like rooting and tinkering. But I really just want a stock JB phone to work with and tinker from there. I appreciate the answers though. Thanks.
Snow released a fully functional JB port based on stock for a different LGOG (not sure which one) which works phenomenally. Though I'm more for ICS instead of JB, I'm giving it a shot. The performance is outrageous.
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Neroga said:
Snow released a fully functional JB port based on stock for a different LGOG (not sure which one) which works phenomenally. Though I'm more for ICS instead of JB, I'm giving it a shot. The performance is outrageous.
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Where is that at?
Do all features that are at least in the OEM firmware work properly?
(I have to have a phone that works, out of beta, without bugs and crashes and spending days on workarounds. I tried AOSP on my Samsung Galacxy SII Skyrocket and it was nothing but problems. Camera crashing, editing configs.... it was a beta at best and unreliable. I don't think I want a custom ROM ever again if that is the experience with it, but I do love JB)
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Where is that at?
Do all features that are at least in the OEM firmware work properly?
(I have to have a phone that works, out of beta, without bugs and crashes and spending days on workarounds. I tried AOSP on my Samsung Galacxy SII Skyrocket and it was nothing but problems. Camera crashing, editing configs.... it was a beta at best and unreliable. I don't think I want a custom ROM ever again if that is the experience with it, but I do love JB)
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Everything's working fine on my end too. The only other problem i've heard is of some people not having their 32g or 64g external card show up while others have. I just flashed it last night, granted it's still early to know for sure without testing a few more days but I'm really enjoying it and things are flawless right now.
Too many damn reboots!
Even on 4.2.2
Only good thing is the incredible ipad beating resolution.
So whats the next best tablet over this nexus 10?I'm in the market to buy like today!
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Too many damn reboots!
Even on 4.2.2
Only good thing is the incredible ipad beating resolution.
So whats the next best tablet over this nexus 10?I'm in the market to buy like today!
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Cya. I'll let you know how Ubuntu is, and you can sit behind from another 10" tablet and receive all of the future android updates 3 months behind, or a month later and half baked.
I wouldn't normally agree with a comment like above but as I have a nexus 10 I totally agree he he sorry
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Does there really need to be another post on the front page about someone else returning their N10? Why not just post in the other "I'm done with this tablet and am returning it/selling it" thread?
As for me, still loving my Nexus 10, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Ubuntu works on it.
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So whats the next best tablet over this nexus 10?I'm in the market to buy like today!
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The Xperia Z or Samsung's version of the N10. The former is ultra-thin but only has a 6,000 mAh battery. It runs S4 Pro which is incredibly efficient so it's too early to say whether or not battery size will be an issue. The latter could be a good choice if in the version of the N10 Samsung sells directly they address the display and QC issues the N10's been experiencing. TW/JB on the Note 10.1 has been issue free unlike what people have been experiencing with AOSP 4.2 on the N10. MWC is next week and more info on the release of both tablets should be available.
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The Xperia Z or Samsung's version of the N10. The former is ultra-thin but only has a 6,000 mAh battery. It runs S4 Pro which is incredibly efficient so it's too early to say whether or not battery size will be an issue. The latter could be a good choice if in the version of the N10 Samsung sells directly they address the display and QC issues the N10's been experiencing. TW/JB on the Note 10.1 has been issue free unlike what people have been experiencing with AOSP 4.2 on the N10. MWC is next week and more info on the release of both tablets should be available.
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I'm waiting to see what comes out at MWC. Id rather have a nexus just for the pure android but I have decided NOT to try another N10. I don't think they will fix the problems on this one. Sure some get 'good' ones but that seems rare. If nothing comparable comes out soon I will just wait until the next iteration of the nexus 10. But I will only buy in a retail(google) store. Never again Play Store.
My household does not have an ounce of apple (by choice) so ipad out of the question
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Does there really need to be another post on the front page about someone else returning their N10? Why not just post in the other "I'm done with this tablet and am returning it/selling it" thread?
As for me, still loving my Nexus 10, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Ubuntu works on it.
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Same here my friend. Never had a single issue with mine. Loving it.
The Nexus 10 was made for those who like to tinker. And as such, the reboots aren't as big a problem as they would be on other devices since they're easily solved by flashing a custom rom.
If you want something working flawless out of the box and dont see an issue with a walled garden, get an iPad. If you can put up with manufacture skins and a lack of speedy updates, get a Note 10.1. If you want to play russian roulette with your build quality, get a Transformer TF700. If you dont care about vast application support, get a Surface. If none of those sound appealing, give up on tablets.
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Cya. I'll let you know how Ubuntu is, and you can sit behind from another 10" tablet and receive all of the future android updates 3 months behind, or a month later and half baked.
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not sure about all this unbuntu hype. so waht apps and stuff they have for it?
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Does there really need to be another post on the front page about someone else returning their N10? thread?
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yes
As for me, still loving my Nexus 10, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Ubuntu works on it.[/QUOTE]
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The Xperia Z or Samsung's version of the N10. The former is ultra-thin but only has a 6,000 mAh battery. It runs S4 Pro which is incredibly efficient so it's too early to say whether or not battery size will be an issue. The latter could be a good choice if in the version of the N10 Samsung sells directly they address the display and QC issues the N10's been experiencing. TW/JB on the Note 10.1 has been issue free unlike what people have been experiencing with AOSP 4.2 on the N10. MWC is next week and more info on the release of both tablets should be available.
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thanks for a sensible response!!!
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Same here my friend. Never had a single issue with mine. Loving it.
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yeah some are happy
but its a full blown known issues that reboots happen to many many many owners
its a problem that google is simply overlooking!!!
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yeah some are happy
but its a full blown known issues that reboots happen to many many many owners
its a problem that google is simply overlooking!!!
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Maybe something's wrong with your tablet? I used to get at least one reboot per day on 4.2.1, but haven't had any on 4.2.2 (received it on 2/14), and I haven't seen many many many owners complaining of reboots after the latest update.
Bought it a month ago to this day.. Still waiting for my first reboot.
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and I haven't seen many many many owners complaining of reboots after the latest update.
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You obviously haven't read the reboot thread then, smh
Used to have reboots all the time on 4.2.1... been pretty solid since 4.2.2... Wi-Fi drops like crazy tho on stock. I feel like when I was on cm10.1 Wi-Fi was generally solid so I'm thinking it's a combo of software and my schools some wat dodgy Wi-Fi... My iPad never experienced Wi-Fi issues that my android devices have here on campus but... That's the only good thing about those
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You obviously haven't read the reboot thread then, smh
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That's unfortunate, I wonder what they're doing differently from those who are seeing a massive improvement in reboots and crashes with 4.2.2.
Even with rebooting this is the best tablet out.
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Maybe something's wrong with your tablet? I used to get at least one reboot per day on 4.2.1, but haven't had any on 4.2.2 (received it on 2/14), and I haven't seen many many many owners complaining of reboots after the latest update.
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I agree. I had many reboots prior to 4.2.2 but after the update I had zero reboots so far. Maybe something wrong with your unit or you got some bad **** installed in it.
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I agree. I had many reboots prior to 4.2.2 but after the update I had zero reboots so far. Maybe something wrong with your unit or you got some bad **** installed in it.
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so everybody was experiencing reboots on 4.2.1,and nobody says its hardware. now 4.2.2 comes out and a few people reboots stop so NOW its a hardware problem? really?
definitely isnt apps, i basically run the same apps on my tablet that i run on my phone. phone has YET to reboot once. If an app is bad and causes a crash (i guess because of its code) it will crash on any device running the same android version right? because its an app problem and not hardware...
for example, list 5 android apps that are KNOWN without a doubt to cause a reboot
please dont say chrome because it only crashes on the nexus 10
in fact, list ONE bad **** app as you say that will cause a reboot across any android device...
P.S. i think that an app causing a device to reboot is still the fault of an OS. i mean why reboot the whole device? why not jus crash the faulty app instead?
Well, I guess I spoke too soon (or jinxed myself) but I got my first post-update reboot this morning. Once per week is still much better than at least one per day, but there's still work to do it seems.
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so everybody was experiencing reboots on 4.2.1,and nobody says its hardware. now 4.2.2 comes out and a few people reboots stop so NOW its a hardware problem? really?
definitely isnt apps, i basically run the same apps on my tablet that i run on my phone. phone has YET to reboot once. If an app is bad and causes a crash (i guess because of its code) it will crash on any device running the same android version right? because its an app problem and not hardware...
for example, list 5 android apps that are KNOWN without a doubt to cause a reboot
please dont say chrome because it only crashes on the nexus 10
in fact, list ONE bad **** app as you say that will cause a reboot across any android device...
P.S. i think that an app causing a device to reboot is still the fault of an OS. i mean why reboot the whole device? why not jus crash the faulty app instead?
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Or, maybe it's the thing that the software communicates with to interact with hardware (drivers)?
Lets say I have a desktop. I run a 3D-intensive app on it. My computer locks up and reboots. The app can be coded to be 100% perfect, and the hardware can be 100% flawless, but if the driver is flawed, then it wouldn't matter how perfect the software and hardware is.
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Or, maybe it's the thing that the software communicates with to interact with hardware (drivers)?
Lets say I have a desktop. I run a 3D-intensive app on it. My computer locks up and reboots. The app can be coded to be 100% perfect, and the hardware can be 100% flawless, but if the driver is flawed, then it wouldn't matter how perfect the software and hardware is.
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well cool but that still eliminates the app as being the culprit of reboots as a lot of people like to suggest
so thats still an OS problem and not hardware. which means useless to send in back because i have a "bad unit"
still waiting on people to tell me apps that will get me a reboot
i have a zte grand x max+ now but who knows itf it will ever get root, so on this phone how is speaker quality is it loud?and the screen is it bright? and is the phone fluid opening and closing apps etc, after you root it to do some tweaks? thanks
as near as i can tell this would be superior to my Zte Grand x max+, they seem to be same both 720p display, same cpu&gpu, but the things that seem to me off hand would make it better is cpu is 1.2 on my Zte, and 1.6 on this, and this is rootable, but im still looking for opinions from owners of this phone
Phone is amazing. I am rooted with a bunch of xposed modules installed. No issues at all. Fast and smooth operation, and network speeds on MetroPCS are super-fast. I was skeptical about getting this phone, but I am super happy with it. Of course, the battery life is just insane. I don't use the speakerphone much, but when I do, it is plenty loud for me. The screen is beautiful as well. You can always get it from Amazon, they have a great return policy.
I second the suggestion of buying this from Amazon. That's what I did and my 30 day return window is almost up. But I am keeping this phone. I am also rooted and have Nova installed as well. The battery life just blows your mind. I do one long charge on the weekend and that's it. Maybe ten or twenty minutes charges once in a while.
Does it get pretty good cell signal? I'm looking to replace a Galaxy Note 2, which I recently dropped and busted. :crying:
I've been a Samsung user for a few years, but my Note 2 got crappy cell signal compared to the S3 that I replaced (on AT&T, btw, same number and sim card). I was looking at a used Note 4, but don't really feel like dishing out >$500 on a decent used one, and you still can't root the AT&T/Verizon versions, as far as I know. I know you can root the T-Mobile version, but still not too interested in spending the big bucks.
This one's been getting pretty decent reviews for a mid-tier phone, and I'm a fan of big screens (I like to read/watch videos a lot). This one looks like it would fit the bill. I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Does it get pretty good cell signal?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Yes, you read that right. We're just past the first half of the first half of this year, so hopefully we see some more info soon.
ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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Love it! I'm in school full-time and I don't have time to worry about the battery percentage, bringing chargers, finding outlets, etc. I need a phone that does everything I ask of it and lasts long as well. As for the specs, yes they aren't great, but it's still snappy and responsive. Almost on par with my sister's Nexus 5. Occasionally there are dropped frames or app crashes, but that's sadly typical of Android. Sometimes I get a bit annoyed with the size of the phone but that only happens when I wear slim or skinny jeans. No, I'm not worried about bending it!
The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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We have a dev working on CM11 AND CM12, but he's been busy with work (*cough* Cyanogen) so there hasn't been progress lately. Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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It is the building, also - those buildings have a lot of infrastructure between your phone and the cell towers, but some phones have better antennas than others. For example, my wife has an iPhone 5, and she gets a signal in them, while I'm staring at a crossed out circle for my signal indicator. And I don't remember completely losing signal with my S3 as I did with my Note 2, although I would lose a bar or two. I'm back using my S3 right now, since my Note 2 went tits up - I'll check it out next time I'm out and about.
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The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yes, we are supposed to get EMUI 3 as well. You can check it out here. Looks pretty nice, if you ask me.
is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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No, just ordered one a couple of days ago from Ebay - should arrive this week sometime. I wanted something with a large screen, but wasn't interested in paying >$500 for a used Galaxy Note 4. The price point on this is great, and has a lot of decent features. I was looking at the OnePlus One, but it doesn't have expandable memory, something that's a must-have for me.
BTW, you'll probably need ADB and Fastboot - check out the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
The ascend mate is good in all aspects, the only time service gets choppy is in Walmarts
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
found this on amazon about my question http://www.amazon.com/purchase-cont...m_cd_ql_tlc_al?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00JPIAGW0 no idea how accurate it is
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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you like the phone? have you rooted yet?