I'm done with this tablet, about to put on ebay - Nexus 10 General

Too many damn reboots!
Even on 4.2.2
Only good thing is the incredible ipad beating resolution.
So whats the next best tablet over this nexus 10?I'm in the market to buy like today!

SayWhat10 said:
Too many damn reboots!
Even on 4.2.2
Only good thing is the incredible ipad beating resolution.
So whats the next best tablet over this nexus 10?I'm in the market to buy like today!
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Cya. I'll let you know how Ubuntu is, and you can sit behind from another 10" tablet and receive all of the future android updates 3 months behind, or a month later and half baked.

I wouldn't normally agree with a comment like above but as I have a nexus 10 I totally agree he he sorry
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Does there really need to be another post on the front page about someone else returning their N10? Why not just post in the other "I'm done with this tablet and am returning it/selling it" thread?
As for me, still loving my Nexus 10, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Ubuntu works on it.

SayWhat10 said:
So whats the next best tablet over this nexus 10?I'm in the market to buy like today!
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The Xperia Z or Samsung's version of the N10. The former is ultra-thin but only has a 6,000 mAh battery. It runs S4 Pro which is incredibly efficient so it's too early to say whether or not battery size will be an issue. The latter could be a good choice if in the version of the N10 Samsung sells directly they address the display and QC issues the N10's been experiencing. TW/JB on the Note 10.1 has been issue free unlike what people have been experiencing with AOSP 4.2 on the N10. MWC is next week and more info on the release of both tablets should be available.

BarryH_GEG said:
The Xperia Z or Samsung's version of the N10. The former is ultra-thin but only has a 6,000 mAh battery. It runs S4 Pro which is incredibly efficient so it's too early to say whether or not battery size will be an issue. The latter could be a good choice if in the version of the N10 Samsung sells directly they address the display and QC issues the N10's been experiencing. TW/JB on the Note 10.1 has been issue free unlike what people have been experiencing with AOSP 4.2 on the N10. MWC is next week and more info on the release of both tablets should be available.
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I'm waiting to see what comes out at MWC. Id rather have a nexus just for the pure android but I have decided NOT to try another N10. I don't think they will fix the problems on this one. Sure some get 'good' ones but that seems rare. If nothing comparable comes out soon I will just wait until the next iteration of the nexus 10. But I will only buy in a retail(google) store. Never again Play Store.
My household does not have an ounce of apple (by choice) so ipad out of the question

hatchna said:
Does there really need to be another post on the front page about someone else returning their N10? Why not just post in the other "I'm done with this tablet and am returning it/selling it" thread?
As for me, still loving my Nexus 10, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Ubuntu works on it.
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Same here my friend. Never had a single issue with mine. Loving it.

The Nexus 10 was made for those who like to tinker. And as such, the reboots aren't as big a problem as they would be on other devices since they're easily solved by flashing a custom rom.
If you want something working flawless out of the box and dont see an issue with a walled garden, get an iPad. If you can put up with manufacture skins and a lack of speedy updates, get a Note 10.1. If you want to play russian roulette with your build quality, get a Transformer TF700. If you dont care about vast application support, get a Surface. If none of those sound appealing, give up on tablets.

omac_ranger said:
Cya. I'll let you know how Ubuntu is, and you can sit behind from another 10" tablet and receive all of the future android updates 3 months behind, or a month later and half baked.
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not sure about all this unbuntu hype. so waht apps and stuff they have for it?
hatchna said:
Does there really need to be another post on the front page about someone else returning their N10? thread?
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yes
As for me, still loving my Nexus 10, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Ubuntu works on it.[/QUOTE]
BarryH_GEG said:
The Xperia Z or Samsung's version of the N10. The former is ultra-thin but only has a 6,000 mAh battery. It runs S4 Pro which is incredibly efficient so it's too early to say whether or not battery size will be an issue. The latter could be a good choice if in the version of the N10 Samsung sells directly they address the display and QC issues the N10's been experiencing. TW/JB on the Note 10.1 has been issue free unlike what people have been experiencing with AOSP 4.2 on the N10. MWC is next week and more info on the release of both tablets should be available.
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thanks for a sensible response!!!
isoul said:
Same here my friend. Never had a single issue with mine. Loving it.
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yeah some are happy
but its a full blown known issues that reboots happen to many many many owners
its a problem that google is simply overlooking!!!

SayWhat10 said:
yeah some are happy
but its a full blown known issues that reboots happen to many many many owners
its a problem that google is simply overlooking!!!
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Maybe something's wrong with your tablet? I used to get at least one reboot per day on 4.2.1, but haven't had any on 4.2.2 (received it on 2/14), and I haven't seen many many many owners complaining of reboots after the latest update.

Bought it a month ago to this day.. Still waiting for my first reboot.

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and I haven't seen many many many owners complaining of reboots after the latest update.
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You obviously haven't read the reboot thread then, smh

Used to have reboots all the time on 4.2.1... been pretty solid since 4.2.2... Wi-Fi drops like crazy tho on stock. I feel like when I was on cm10.1 Wi-Fi was generally solid so I'm thinking it's a combo of software and my schools some wat dodgy Wi-Fi... My iPad never experienced Wi-Fi issues that my android devices have here on campus but... That's the only good thing about those
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You obviously haven't read the reboot thread then, smh
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That's unfortunate, I wonder what they're doing differently from those who are seeing a massive improvement in reboots and crashes with 4.2.2.

Even with rebooting this is the best tablet out.
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derrick603 said:
Maybe something's wrong with your tablet? I used to get at least one reboot per day on 4.2.1, but haven't had any on 4.2.2 (received it on 2/14), and I haven't seen many many many owners complaining of reboots after the latest update.
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I agree. I had many reboots prior to 4.2.2 but after the update I had zero reboots so far. Maybe something wrong with your unit or you got some bad **** installed in it.

Techie2012 said:
I agree. I had many reboots prior to 4.2.2 but after the update I had zero reboots so far. Maybe something wrong with your unit or you got some bad **** installed in it.
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so everybody was experiencing reboots on 4.2.1,and nobody says its hardware. now 4.2.2 comes out and a few people reboots stop so NOW its a hardware problem? really?
definitely isnt apps, i basically run the same apps on my tablet that i run on my phone. phone has YET to reboot once. If an app is bad and causes a crash (i guess because of its code) it will crash on any device running the same android version right? because its an app problem and not hardware...
for example, list 5 android apps that are KNOWN without a doubt to cause a reboot
please dont say chrome because it only crashes on the nexus 10
in fact, list ONE bad **** app as you say that will cause a reboot across any android device...
P.S. i think that an app causing a device to reboot is still the fault of an OS. i mean why reboot the whole device? why not jus crash the faulty app instead?

Well, I guess I spoke too soon (or jinxed myself) but I got my first post-update reboot this morning. Once per week is still much better than at least one per day, but there's still work to do it seems.

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so everybody was experiencing reboots on 4.2.1,and nobody says its hardware. now 4.2.2 comes out and a few people reboots stop so NOW its a hardware problem? really?
definitely isnt apps, i basically run the same apps on my tablet that i run on my phone. phone has YET to reboot once. If an app is bad and causes a crash (i guess because of its code) it will crash on any device running the same android version right? because its an app problem and not hardware...
for example, list 5 android apps that are KNOWN without a doubt to cause a reboot
please dont say chrome because it only crashes on the nexus 10
in fact, list ONE bad **** app as you say that will cause a reboot across any android device...
P.S. i think that an app causing a device to reboot is still the fault of an OS. i mean why reboot the whole device? why not jus crash the faulty app instead?
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Or, maybe it's the thing that the software communicates with to interact with hardware (drivers)?
Lets say I have a desktop. I run a 3D-intensive app on it. My computer locks up and reboots. The app can be coded to be 100% perfect, and the hardware can be 100% flawless, but if the driver is flawed, then it wouldn't matter how perfect the software and hardware is.

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Or, maybe it's the thing that the software communicates with to interact with hardware (drivers)?
Lets say I have a desktop. I run a 3D-intensive app on it. My computer locks up and reboots. The app can be coded to be 100% perfect, and the hardware can be 100% flawless, but if the driver is flawed, then it wouldn't matter how perfect the software and hardware is.
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well cool but that still eliminates the app as being the culprit of reboots as a lot of people like to suggest
so thats still an OS problem and not hardware. which means useless to send in back because i have a "bad unit"
still waiting on people to tell me apps that will get me a reboot

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Random reboots and wifi not staying connected after new update!

Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
effingpace said:
Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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This is very bad news for everyone and I saw this coming... Instead of doing the right thing and replacing the defective Primes they come up with a crazy bandaid patch that underclocks and all kinda of other BS kills our battery life and now causes lockups on Primes that were fine......... Everyone who owns a Prime now only has one choice and thats to return these defective junk units for a refund.
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This is very bad news for everyone and I saw this coming... Instead of doing the right thing and replacing the defective Primes they come up with a crazy bandaid patch that underclocks and all kinda of other BS kills our battery life and now causes lockups on Primes that were fine......... Everyone who owns a Prime now only has one choice and thats to return these defective junk units for a refund.
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Yea i was happy with it before this update but now i am having second thoughts, kinda sucks cause i love this device. I should have just kept my XOOM lol
I'm very upset about this. My prime has been one of the lucky ones, no problems since I got it. After the update yesterday i got many first random reboot. Not happy....
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I'm very upset about this. My prime has been one of the lucky ones, no problems since I got it. After the update yesterday i got many futurist random reboot. Not happy....
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Yes this further proves there is hardware differences in some primes and now they are trying to find a magical firmware that will play nice with both.... not going to happen they and we are screwed time to return for refunds.
Well i feel for you guys that had bad luck. But seriously you guys think about returning a device because of one bad patch? Well go ahead... There's one thing i learned from having an apple device once (ipod touch back in the day).
There only one rule: You NEVER apply an update unless you're 100% sure what it does and if its bad or not (Barney says: "Unless she's hot" )
If the patch has bugs in it, it will be fixed. Soon. Asus is quite fast man^^ Apple for example usually needs like half a year to get a new firmware with bugfixes out. I sticked to iOS 3.x for one YEAR after 4.x was released because there were serious battery drain problems and other bugs with wifi connection with 4.x. Just to give some comparison with the company that is known for delivering perfect software...
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Well i feel for you guys that had bad luck. But seriously you guys think about returning a device because of one bad patch? Well go ahead... There's one thing i learned from having an apple device once (ipod touch back in the day).
There only one rule: You NEVER apply an update unless you're 100% sure what it does and if its bad or not (Barney says: "Unless she's hot" )
If the patch has bugs in it, it will be fixed. Soon. Asus is quite fast man^^ Apple for example usually needs like half a year to get a new firmware with bugfixes out.
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that's fine when we can be sure a software/firmware fix will fix something but its been clearly obvious ASUS has thrown different hardware in Primes and or defective hardware.
And how do you come to this conclusion, or rather where is the evidence for that? Which parts of the hardware are different?
Every CPU/GPU's or rather any Microchip acts differently. Some act very wierd if you just OC/UV slightly and others handle massive Overclocks/Undervolts with ease. I've seen DesireHDs (1ghz Snapdragon CPU) running stable at 1.6ghz and others already have random reboots with 1.1ghz. Thats just how it is.
And btw the Chipset comes from nvidia. Its up to them to release stable drivers. Why blame this on Asus?
It really helps reading up a little on such stuff before posting on XDA because this is mainly a DEV forum and not a IMA ANGRY I WANNA SHOUT AT PEOPLE-type forum. No offense
In one month there will bootloader unlock tool, there will be custom kernels and custom software. Then you can OC/UV the hell out of your prime if you're not happy with stock values
clouds5 said:
And how do you come to this conclusion, or rather where is the evidence for that? Which parts of the hardware are different?
Every CPU/GPU's or rather any Microchip acts differently. Some act very wierd if you just OC/UV slightly and others handle massive Overclocks/Undervolts with ease. I've seen DesireHDs (1ghz Snapdragon CPU) running stable at 1.6ghz and others already have random reboots with 1.1ghz. Thats just how it is.
And btw the Chipset comes from nvidia. Its up to them to release stable drivers. Why blame this on Asus?
It really helps reading up a little on such stuff before posting on XDA because this is mainly a DEV forum and not a IMA ANGRY I WANNA SHOUT AT PEOPLE-type forum. No offense
In one month there will bootloader unlock tool, there will be custom kernels and custom software. Then you can OC/UV the hell out of your prime if you're not happy with stock values
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i am just reporting an issue after a new update so other users are aware. i am not screaming and yelling about the prime being a piece of **** tablet, i actually love the device but the update blows. i called cust support and they told me to do a factory reset lol just have to wait for the next "fix" and deal with it until then
You did not specify the update version that you applied.
Can we assume you applied .13?
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You did not specify the update version that you applied.
Can we assume you applied .13?
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yes, .13 is the update i am talking about
Did you factory reset and my youtube is working again. Ill keep you posted on the reboot/wifi issues
Mind telling us which batch does your Prime belong to? Thanks.
effingpace said:
Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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Before you blame you patch, I suggest you do a factory reset. Just to be sure its not one of those that is causing your reboots. It certainly wouldn't be the cause of problems.
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After my update to .13 - my prime had a few random reboots last night for the first time since I got the tablet a month ago...and while wifi "appears" stronger (I haven't used wifi analyzer on it yet but noticed in one corner of my house, it was showing 2 bars whereas in the past it showed only 1), I did notice that upon resuming, a handful of times Wifi was no longer reconnecting. I had to go into settings, then all of a sudden wifi would come back to life.
Definitely do a factory reset. Had the sale dropout issues and it fixed it! Good luck!
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Same boat here.
I had zero issues before the update now random reboots.
xXxDieselxXx said:
Same boat here.
I had zero issues before the update now random reboots.
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so far so good after the factory reset. wifi has been connected and no reboots yet...
Doesn't appear to be too many effected by new update as far as lockups? Maybe a couple?

[Q] My Choppy/Laggy/Buggy Note issues

Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
I was able to get better wallpaper using zedge on the market. It doesnt zoom in like selecting from folder.
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Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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demetriew said:
Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
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Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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Err0xx said:
Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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Well ACTUALLY I was only speaking of my note... If you took the time to read my post before rudley trying to correct me!!!
Also thank you for your help in this matter...
hiii_imkris said:
Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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But how is it that we're the only 2 ppl with lag out of all the new notes that came out???
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Mine was lagging really bad as well... at least with the tw launcher. I dl go launcher with the ICS theme and its slightly faster but still lagging
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Are all of you closing down your background apps and/or running on power saver mode?
There is no reason you should be that laggy.
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I have not Seen any Lag Unless I Use a Launcher. othcr than that Seems to Be just as Smooth as my Skyrocket.
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
Actually my note is kinda "laggy, sluggish, choppy" as well. I'm kind of a sad man right now, I still LOVE this thing but it's performance is not all that great at the moment for me.
Not entirely sure why either...I tried a few launcher none make it better and some make it worse.
grrr...
what kind of Lag. I have only Seen It while Using a Launcher. It actually Is JUST as Smooth as my Skyrocket when right next to it .
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Really strange. I am completely stock right now with all the bloat still installed, microbes live wallpaper, and I just tried this in the market and get no lag whatsoever.
I went to the AT&T store and the Note was laggy. I killed background tasks, eliminated widgets, removed bloatware... nothing
I really like the screen size + google maps navigation but I'm not good at rooting so I've gotta see if this lag stuff continues on stock before taking the plunge.
Hmm :/ I'll take a video of it tomorrow. All power saving options are off, nothing much running in the background. Maybe I should take it into an ATT store and compare it side by side to the ones on display.
I'm glad most others aren't having this problem, that means its something that can get fixed or replaced rather than just being an underpowered processor for the resolution of the screen.
Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
Oh and have a nice day
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
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I've just spent the last 24 hours trying to customize my gnote. now u say hard reset may fix my problem... has anyone tried this yet?
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Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
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^Somebody needs to get laid STAT!
I'm absolutely willing to do all of that, and I will, but going from a captivate, to an infuse, to this, and having it be the slowest out of the box when the other two were single core just strikes me as not right. And with others stating that they don't have this issue, makes me think there must be something going on here. Before I mask the problem with the OC kernel and a new launcher I'd rather know that there isn't something wrong with my specific note.
Glad the lag doesn't bother you
imitenotbecrazy said:
Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
Oh and have a nice day
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When is the next Nexus 10 Update?

I'm just trying to get some general info on when the next N10 update will be to fix some of the obvious and persistent bugs that the device has (wifi, random reboot, ****ty Chrome performance, etc.). I haven't been keeping up with Android news as much as I should as of late, so I am wondering if one of you fellas have heard anything about when the next 4.2 update will be for the N10. :good:
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I'm just trying to get some general info on when the next N10 update will be to fix some of the obvious and persistent bugs that the device has (wifi, random reboot, ****ty Chrome performance, etc.). I haven't been keeping up with Android news as much as I should as of late, so I am wondering if one of you fellas have heard anything about when the next 4.2 update will be for the N10. :good:
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It'll arrive when it arrives. Nobody here is psychic. If you dont mind the warranty risk, you can at least fix the rebooting with CM10.1. If you aren't attached to Chrome, other browsers are known to run far better like Dolphin and AOSP. Cant say to the Wifi issue as I haven't personally experienced it.
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It'll arrive when it arrives. Nobody here is psychic. If you dont mind the warranty risk, you can at least fix the rebooting with CM10.1. If you aren't attached to Chrome, other browsers are known to run far better like Dolphin and AOSP. Cant say to the Wifi issue as I haven't personally experienced it.
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Just looking to see if anybody has maybe heard of anything on other sites. These things leak all of the time. I use Firefox for now and it does the job for now, but Chrome has some features that I love and I am just waiting for a decent release that won't crash my N10. As far as wifi goes, mine tends to drop connect while it is on standby for a few hours and it won't reconnect unless I manually turn wifi of then on again.
Maybe I will give CM 10 a shot.
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Nobody here is psychic
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Speak for yourself! :silly: *presses finger to head---I predict we will have an update.....SOMEDAY!
Chrome performance has little to do with N10s firmware, and more to do with it being about 5 versions behind desktop Chrome. I've heard there are a lot of improvements in 23...currently the Android version is stuck on 18.
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maybe more powerful with the same price
Not looking for passive aggressive posts, just information. Thanks for not so much so far, fellas.
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My Nexus 10 doesn't have random reboots and absolutely zero issues with WiFi. I take my device from my house to my parents house to my in-laws and to work and it never drops connection (except travelling to those places) or requires a reboot. I also leave my Nexus 10 on all the time, it's never turned off. I don't use Chrome, I use the AOSP browser and sometimes Boat Browser.
Chome will be an app update in the Market so it could happen whenever and won't be related to an updated OTA for the Nexus 10.
As for the Nexus 10 next OTA....you really won't hear about it until it starts happening or another update to AOSP occurs (4.2.2 or maybe 4.2.1.1, etc...)
Just root and flash a ROM and stop complaining bout sh*t
beerope said:
Just root and flash a ROM and stop complaining bout sh*t
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beerope said:
Just root and flash a ROM and stop complaining bout sh*t
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Smart
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tcrews said:
My Nexus 10 doesn't have random reboots and absolutely zero issues with WiFi. I take my device from my house to my parents house to my in-laws and to work and it never drops connection (except travelling to those places) or requires a reboot. I also leave my Nexus 10 on all the time, it's never turned off. I don't use Chrome, I use the AOSP browser and sometimes Boat Browser.
Chome will be an app update in the Market so it could happen whenever and won't be related to an updated OTA for the Nexus 10.
As for the Nexus 10 next OTA....you really won't hear about it until it starts happening or another update to AOSP occurs (4.2.2 or maybe 4.2.1.1, etc...)
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Thank you for actually trying to help and giving valid input. Looks like I will just have to wait and see.
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[Q] So you think you're so "special"?!?!?

I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
HMZX said:
Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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Google Now & Project Butter
erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
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smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.

TF201 buying

Thinking of buying one however i see no updates are avaible. I was looking at some of the roms and was wondering if any of them are fully working with miracast and 4.3. I also looking for a nightly build I think that means updates are available.
Please help me out since I am a newbie
thank you
john6969 said:
Thinking of buying one however i see no updates are avaible. I was looking at some of the roms and was wondering if any of them are fully working with miracast and 4.3. I also looking for a nightly build I think that means updates are available.
Please help me out since I am a newbie
thank you
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I'd avoid it the device is a problem child. Asus QA is terrible took me ages to get a good screen and the very slow internal memory let's it down. Asus seem to have ended updates with 4.1.1. Keyboard is great but it just doesn't feel like a premium device.
Hope this helps
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It's not a bad device, but not very good one either.It was released almost 2 years ago. I'd recommend finding something more modern.
john6969 said:
Thinking of buying one however i see no updates are avaible. I was looking at some of the roms and was wondering if any of them are fully working with miracast and 4.3. I also looking for a nightly build I think that means updates are available.
Please help me out since I am a newbie
thank you
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This equipment have wireless (Wifi) signal problems, i already sent my TF201 to Asus Service but the problem persists... signal is very weak!!:crying:
For Gaming is a good device
Internal IO Bottlenecks
llothar said:
It's not a bad device, but not very good one either.It was released almost 2 years ago. I'd recommend finding something more modern.
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Def be aware that there are some interal IO bottlenecking due to the slow R/W speeds of internal SDCARD. That being said - i am usiing CM 10.1 with Cache2SD set up and i love it!
john6969 said:
Thinking of buying one however i see no updates are avaible. I was looking at some of the roms and was wondering if any of them are fully working with miracast and 4.3. I also looking for a nightly build I think that means updates are available.
Please help me out since I am a newbie
thank you
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As someone pointed out earlier, It's not a bad device, but not very good one either. I've had mine for about two years, and while it doesn't suck, there are currently much better alternatives out there. The TF201 can suffer from WiFi problems, which mine doesn't, and poor to non-existant GPS reception, which mine does. Build quality is very good and solid, and the "transformer" capability is huge. The dock adds more battery, another SD card slot and a real USB connection, but performance is, well, two years ago. Screen is OK
As I said, I LOVE the detachable keyboard concept and all the extras that come with it, so my next purchase, once the bugs are worked out, is going to be the new TF701t that's just being released. More RAM, 2560x1600 display !, faster chip, and hopefully, no Wifi or GPS issues.

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