I have a Note 2, torn between keeping the 2 or getting a Note 3 or S4. I'm trying to justify paying more for the Note 3 than the S4, but other than the S Pen and RAM, is there any big advantage?
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I have a Note 2, torn between keeping the 2 or getting a Note 3 or S4. I'm trying to justify paying more for the Note 3 than the S4, but other than the S Pen and RAM, is there any big advantage?
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Well I'm sure you know that currently on root is available for N3. I have the N3 and came from a rooted with loki recovery on the S4. I am not missing my S4 at all. Flashing roms was great so I do miss that a bit. But I'm loving my N3 when it come to speed,reliability,smoothness, and battery life all are awesome. I rooted and debloated and use exposed, wanam,and recently trying out the Flash Gordon for flashing theme zip files. But I don't regret my decision at all. Also very good wifi and 4G for me. Here's a shot of some of my battery stats.
I've played with my buddy's S4 and not only did it seem tiny compared to my N2, it was slower. The N3 will run circles around the S4, that's for sure!
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Hi All,
I have a chance to trade locally with someone who picked up a VZW Black S4. I have the White Note 2 and he wants to go back to the Note 2. The nerd in me screams awesome as I'm always wanting to check out new phones but at the same time, why might he want to go back to the Note 2 from the S4...
If anyone has and uses both phones what are the pro's and con's? Any preference between the two (and yes, I realize this is the S4 forums so preference may be a bit biased).
My Note 2 is like new, has two batteries and two s-pens so he's offering a straight trade, phone for phone no cash exhanged.
Thoughts?
I love the Note 2, I read books, watch movies and tv shows on it, and music quality is amazing. Signal quality and download speeds are insane. Looking for day to day use comparisons for those that have had both phones and advice on what I can expect from the S4 if I proceed with this trade.
Preference, I do miss the bigger screen.. flash video is a little smoother (more forgiving is better put) on the Note 2 (4.1.2) but being able to one hand the device, the IR blaster and 1080p display is rly nice.
Do it, the value of the Note 2 is dropping
Then trade up to the Note 3
Thats what I am doing (did)
Yeah I had the iPhone 5, bought a Note 2. And then sold the iPhone and Note 2 and got the S4 and I still have my upgrade next month! Loving the S4 right now.
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I have the Note 2 and then bought the S4. I wouldn't get rid of either of them. they both have thier strong points.
The Note 2, all of the big scren stuff and the sPen,(which I still use, daily) as well as I have mine on a dual boot. so I get TW (Beans) and with a re boot running pacman (PA, AOKP, CM)
There is really no down side to the Note 2 other than it is about 9 months old... (Is that really a down side? the longer you have a phone the more options we have with the developers that come out with the new development options)
I have my eye on the note 3 when it comes out and I still would't get rid of the note 2.
With the S4, It is a great phone all of the awesome TW stuff and the blaster. The best thig is jacking any TV that you are near. Good stuff when your in the DR. Office and DR Phil is on, opps was on, I just jacked it and put on Sportscenter...HA!
if you like there are some really cool Original Android devs that are doing some cool stuff.
It still is really new and the development hasn't really been where it is with the Note 2, that is if you are into all of the new ROMs and bells and whistles...
We just ran into a snag until the new verizon OTA gets rooted, unlocked and opened up for the devs to get into it so those of us that like the TW ROMs.
I would not trade the Note 2 for the S4 , but that is just my .02
Right now the S4 is in a awkward stage with the Dev's. As mentioned earlier the latest OTA update locked the phone up tight. There is a huge bounty to re-root & unlock the bootloader yet no one has cracked it yet. If you're not into customizing your phone via root and custom roms then the S4 is a good choice. The screen detail alone makes the S4 very appealing. Get the S4; better equity and trade in value.
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i wish i never sold my note 2. perfect daily phone for me. the s4 gets warm/hot to me where the note 2 never did. both have pros and cons. i cant wait for note 3 and htc one. s4 will be gone if either one of those is decent
My wife switched and is really happy.
She loved the Note II but the size was getting to be an issue for her.
She found the S4 noticeably lighter in in hand which she preferred when using her phone for extended periods, and that the S4 fit her various pockets in her smaller purses better. Those were her two reasons. She loved the extra screen size on the Note II, but has been happier overall w/the S4.
Would have got the N2 but at the time it was 300 when the S4 was 200. I just couldn't pay more for an "inferior" device. If they were the same price IDK what I would be with now though.
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I still have both. However, I don't use the Note anymore. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just to busy playing with my S4. At first I did miss the S pen. It came in so handy at work. Running around and taking notes on the go, I saved thousands of trees Lol.
It does get warm. This differs with choice of kernel in my experience. While development isn't yet massive, it's not a ghost town either... As you can see. Personally, I'd make the switch... Unless the phone your looking at has the update??
Dual boot? I think it's time to take a gander in the Note 2 forums.
Dr. Cornelius asks you to calm down.
That Note 2 screen looks so pixilated to Mr after looking at this S4 screen resolution.
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I still have both. However, I don't use the Note anymore. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just to busy playing with my S4. At first I did miss the S pen. It came in so handy at work. Running around and taking notes on the go, I saved thousands of trees Lol.
It does get warm. This differs with choice of kernel in my experience. While development isn't yet massive, it's not a ghost town either... As you can see. Personally, I'd make the switch... Unless the phone your looking at has the update??
Dual boot? I think it's time to take a gander in the Note 2 forums.
Dr. Cornelius asks you to calm down.
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Your s4 or note gets warm?
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begin with galaxy S3,then note 2, and now S4, I cannot resist galaxy products!
I made the switch a few days ago.. gave my brother my note 2 and used his upgrade to get the s4. I definitely like some of the small features that the s4 has that my note 2 didn't (the smart video view in particular). I never really used the spen all that often so although I do miss it, it's nothing for me not to have it.
The main reason why I switched was because of the size on the note 2. I do love the screen size on the note 2(the only thing I truly miss), but the size of the phone it brought with it were getting old. I text a ton, and not being able to text on one hand without getting extremely pissed at the constant typos just got to be too much.
I haven't seen too much of a hit on my battery.. I could easily get through the work day and all evening with my note 2.. but I've yet to require a charge mid day on my s4.. and I'm using smart features which I didn't on the note 2. I'm definitely glad I made the switch.. something as little as being able to use cup holders to hold my phone is so nice.
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I personally didn't get a ton more out of my note 2 if you consider the screen on time.
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I had the note 2 since launch up until about a month ago when I got the s4. I still have the note. I just moved it over to a secondary line. I use both daily for different things. The note 2 is still an awesome device.... The s4 is my daily driver.... Wow. I'm sure I'm not being helpful at all. If u can look past the IR blaster and the resolution. Get the note 2. My kids are always losing the remote so the s4 comes in handy. The rest of the features I feel are just gimmicks. Nothing really..... Extravagant
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So now they been out a whole min. What's yours thought is the s4 better than s4active. Maybe the note 2. I've used these both for a week not sure from a mixing modding point of view. Any input is great. This has been asked before I'm sure. What's the bests phones out for android.?? If you could upgrade for 0.00 what would you do and why? Thanks
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Woudnt this be better in the General Android area to get a much larger feedback than that of the Note users. Since not a single device mentioned is the Note.
The Wife has the Active. A friend has the S4. Another friend the Note 2. The main difference is screen size at first glance. Then you start nit picking and see that the Active is waterproof and all that. The S4 has a better camera. The Note 2 has larger screen and Stylus.
So really which one do you like more?
The best phone is the one that does what you want with having the features you want. What I want isnt what you want so my opinion means little to nothing to you. I like the LG Optimus G Pro over any of the phones mentioned. That is cause it is the size I want, has the features I want and does what I want.
So really nothing anyone says anywhere on the net can help you by telling you which is the best, you decide that for yourself.
My wife has a Note 2, and I just purchased an S4 for my father today. As much as I love the size of the Note, if I was forced to go Note 2 or S4, I'd go S4. The screen is perty, it was fluid, and I feel like the ROM base for it -- I've not looked -- would be insanely expansive as would the number of devs working on it. That said though, I don't touch the wife's Note 2 as it makes me envious. I always want to hit her when I see her on it for 15 straight hours then tell me her "battery is sucking" and it still has like 70% left.
Now, Note 3 vs S4, I think I'd then go with the Note 3, as I reckon it'll have all the fanciness of the S4 with the size we all <3.
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So now they been out a whole min. What's yours thought is the s4 better than s4active. Maybe the note 2. I've used these both for a week not sure from a mixing modding point of view. Any input is great. This has been asked before I'm sure. What's the bests phones out for android.?? If you could upgrade for 0.00 what would you do and why? Thanks
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This is from a non modding point of view based on stock settings....
The regular S4 isn't that much different than the S4 active. You can either have a water resistant S4 with 8 megapixels, or a regular S4 with 13 megapixels. I read the active isn't as vivid as the regular version also. I'd take which ever one is cheaper. If they were both free I'd take the regular one. It's a very cool phone with lots of fluff features and has the latest software. It's powered by 1.9ghz quad core.
The Note 2 is a larger phone with stylus. If you think you'll be using the pen a lot, and want a larger screen than the S4, this is the phone for you! It's not the latest software. You'll have an 8 megapixel camera and a slower 1.6ghz quad core.
From a mixing modding point of view...
If you have the S4 with the latest software I don't think you can currently mod it at this time. The bootloader is locked. That means the Note 2 wins.
In my opinion... I'd wait for the Note 3!
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Woudnt this be better in the General Android area to get a much larger feedback than that of the Note users. Since not a single device mentioned is the Note.
The Wife has the Active. A friend has the S4. Another friend the Note 2. The main difference is screen size at first glance. Then you start nit picking and see that the Active is waterproof and all that. The S4 has a better camera. The Note 2 has larger screen and Stylus.
So really which one do you like more?
The best phone is the one that does what you want with having the features you want. What I want isnt what you want so my opinion means little to nothing to you. I like the LG Optimus G Pro over any of the phones mentioned. That is cause it is the size I want, has the features I want and does what I want.
So really nothing anyone says anywhere on the net can help you by telling you which is the best, you decide that for yourself.
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Ok I will have to edit the op. I should not of started this post drinking on camp grounds. I'm about 2 yrs in with the note. Cracked glass on camping trip and broke my note and they offered me a upgrade. I'm very partial to the note line up.
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JEZZEJAMEZ said:
Ok I will have to edit the op. I should not of started this post drinking on camp grounds. I'm about 2 yrs in with the note. Cracked glass on camping trip and broke my note and they offered me a upgrade. I'm very partial to the note line up.
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If your partial to the note lineup man I strongly recommend the note 2. I had it, but broke it to the point of no fixing. It was awesome while I had it. I've gotten a chance to play with an S4 also, and while it is very fluid, the note 2 with the right custom ROM/Kernel combo on the note 2 works just as well in day to day use. You may honestly only see the difference in heavy gaming or emulation & that's the honest truth. That enhanced speed is placebo IMO. I will say the camera and screen on the S4 is FANTASTIC, but I'm perfectly happy with the 8mp cameras that samsung puts out as well as having a 720p screen. I don't need 1080p just yet......emphasis on the yet lol. From the modding point of view, I'm sure the S4 will have just as many mods and custom roms available for it as the note 2. The screen size was the most shocking thing for me though. Having used the note's 5.3 inch 16:10 aspect ratio for so long, and then using the S4's 5 inch 16:9 aspect ratio screen threw me for a loop.
If you can hold out though I have high hopes for that delicious powerhouse note 3.
I would wait another couple of months for the Note III. That's what I am doing.
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I had a Galaxy S4 and I honestly couldn't stand it. Sure, it benchmarked higher than the Note 2, but after 8 days of use some of the buttons stopped working. Also, there's no bootloader unlock for the new firmware yet so we only got root. I used ODIN to go back to the stock firmware and wiped the device, went to Verizon and got my $650 back. I'm glad I'm back here.
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I had a Galaxy S4 and I honestly couldn't stand it. Sure, it benchmarked higher than the Note 2, but after 8 days of use some of the buttons stopped working. Also, there's no bootloader unlock for the new firmware yet so we only got root. I used ODIN to go back to the stock firmware and wiped the device, went to Verizon and got my $650 back. I'm glad I'm back here.
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Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
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Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
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I paid full price for my Galaxy Nexus and my Note 2.
mikeone33 said:
Wow you paid 650 cash?
Welcome back.
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Yes, it was dumb, but at least I got my money back.
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As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
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I do! :good:
I got the S4 on release and I like it. Just put my SIM in my Note 2 today for the first time since I got the S4 and it really does perform. The specs are higher on the S4 but I can't tell the difference. My only issue with the Note is it's size, which was the reason I bought it. I just can't do some things one handed, things I didn't think would matter. But, if size hadn't been an issue, this guy would still be my dd. Also, since I bought the S4 at release, it's unlocked and running PACman 4.3 and running it well. If I couldn't run AOSP, I wouldn't want it either.
I'm grandfathered in on unlimited data and buy all my devices unsubsidized.
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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
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As I have posted a couple times, although the Note 2 has inferior specs it's still a better device overall. This is just my opinion but I feel like a lot of people would agree with me.
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all day everyday and twice on sunday :good:
I just returned a Galaxy S4 I bought last week for a Note 2 on Friday and had it flashed to work on Pageplus.
The battery life on the S4 was terrible even after tweaking the phone.
So far the Note 2 is far better.
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I just returned a Galaxy S4 I bought last week for a Note 2 on Friday and had it flashed to work on Pageplus.
The battery life on the S4 was terrible even after tweaking the phone.
So far the Note 2 is far better.
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A bigger battery will do that for you.
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I switched to an S4 on two separate occasions. Each time I came back to the Note 2 for the screen size.
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I sold my note 2 in craigslist for $450, found a brand new galaxy s4 for $499. $49 to upgrade meh.
Even with a gs4 rooted with cm10, it couldn't hold a candle to my note. Sure, the screen was brighter and sharper, but the build quality on the gs4 is horrible.
Needless to say I quickly sold the gs4 on swappa for $550. Picked up another note 2 off craigslist for $375.
The only thing that can drag me away from my note 2 is a note 3. I just hope the note 3 build quality is better than the gs4.
Seems like Samsung's build quality is actually regressing with each new device
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I'm hooked on the SPEN, can't imagine getting another phone unless it has it.
I got rid of my GS4 yesterday and will be waiting for the GN3 announcement in 13 days. Looking forward to a hopefully quick launch. Rumors now say S800 variant is all that will be launching first since the Exynos 5420 is having issues (go figure) so maybe Verizon will launch it right away.
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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
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I love the Notes size, other phones seem so small when I mess with apps on em now.
after having the note 2, not really sure what my next phone will be. Tired of dropped calls in my house where HTC phones never had problems. Might try the femtocel route, but verizon wants me to pay for it. Moto droid ultra maxx is interesting, esp since I have plex working perfectly now so I don't need 64gb of media on my phone.
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Should've used that 650 for the note 3. I can never go back to a smaller screen, even if it is somewhat inferior from a hardware standpoint.
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I'd rather go for hardware quality than superficial looks of a device. Looks don't control the performance/quality.
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Had the Verizon note 2 and loved it. Got stolen at work on Friday. Ordered a new note 3 as a upgrade. Spec wise no comparison. However, battery life seems a lot worse. Notification led is smaller. No auto format for stock web browsers. I hate the look of jelly bean 4.3. I don't like the white dialer pad miss my 4.2 jelly bean. I have 11 days left if I want to return it and get another phone. Note 3 is stock no root yet. Im comparing this to my stock note 2 before I rooted it and added greenify, root explorer, etc. Note 2 also seemed to have a way better battery management system compared to the note 3 stock. Granted the bigger screen, faster quad core and higher full hd resolution on the note 3 is probably the reason. I do have the processes limited to 4 and still have bad battery life on the note 3. Oh and last but definitely not least, the speaker sucks compared to the note 2. Thanks for any input guys. For me this is a first where I might actually want to go backwards in technology rather than forward. Question is, anyone go from the note 2 to the note 3 and wish they had gone back to the note 2?
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Had the Verizon note 2 and loved it. Got stolen at work on Friday. Ordered a new note 3 as a upgrade. Spec wise no comparison. However, battery life seems a lot worse. Notification led is smaller. No auto format for stock web browsers. I hate the look of jelly bean 4.3. I don't like the white dialer pad miss my 4.2 jelly bean. I have 11 days left if I want to return it and get another phone. Note 3 is stock no root yet. Im comparing this to my stock note 2 before I rooted it and added greenify, root explorer, etc. Note 2 also seemed to have a way better battery management system compared to the note 3 stock. Granted the bigger screen, faster quad core and higher full hd resolution on the note 3 is probably the reason. I do have the processes limited to 4 and still have bad battery life on the note 3. Oh and last but definitely not least, the speaker sucks compared to the note 2. Thanks for any input guys. For me this is a first where I might actually want to go backwards in technology rather than forward. Question is, anyone go from the note 2 to the note 3 and wish they had gone back to the note 2?
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Dude this is a waste of time discussing this.... The note 3 trumps the note 2 in every way other than the speaker.....
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I'm thinking about upgrading, having been on the Note 2 for 3 years. I'm running Alliance Rom 32 (4.4.2) and it runs well so maybe I should just keep it. I would get the Note 4 but I use root for Viper4Android, Adfree and to be able to turn off/remove background "bloat" apps. Maybe the Note 4 is fast enough to overcome the lag background apps can cause?
I'm on a VZW family plan so tethering isn't an issue.
I use the Pen once in a while for note taking but could live without it.
What are rooted Galaxy Note 2 users moving to?
Thanks,
I've been on a rooted Note 2 for 3 years also. I'm stuck since I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan. For me it's all about the camera. I use my phone to document my kids growing up. That being said the best camera on an Android device right now is in the galaxy S6 but the lack of removable battery and storage kinda blows so I would probably get the Note 4 at this point even though I'm kinda over the phablet thing. A buddy at work has the Note 4 edge and that thing is nice. Also you may want to consider the next iPhone. I hate to say it but everything is designed to work with it.
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@Dugall12 - thanks for your thoughts. You post confirms my suspicion that perhaps my Note 2 running Alliance ROM 32 is about as good as it gets right now. Like you I've considered a 5 inch screen phone. We have an extra Galaxy S4. I just rooted it to stang5litre debloated Lollipop 5.01 OC1. I used it for a few days and thought performance and battery power were quite good. I then gave it to my college age son to try and he says its overheating. I think he's running some third party app that causing the issue. Another option is we have an available VZW upgrade and could get an S5 for $50 through Amazon.
I can't believe Samsung turned the next Galaxy S into an iPhone clone. I have done a few screen repairs for friends iPhone 6's and had the opportunity to use those phones for a few hours just to see what they're like. I'm not impressed. I find an Android running Nova Prime to be more intuitive and easy to use. I don't get the attraction of a sleek and beautiful phone - they need to be in a bumper case - at that point they all look the same. For those who want to argue that - every screen repair I do is for phones used without a case.