Let's figure out how to update the baseband on this phone - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3

Well, I know you've all been waiting for the MJ4 update, and I have all the system files ready to go. However, the baseband refuses to update past MI3 for me. Nothing i've done gets this thing updated past MI3. I had it at MI5 at one point, but in an attempt to get the MJ4 update before someone passed it along to me, I Odined back to MI3 and now have the stupid message about roll-out updates exceeding.
Basically, anyone with any sort of knowledge in this please chime in with suggestions, ideas, whatever!
I know a few of you have had trouble getting past MI3 yourself with my firmware update. My phone updated fine with it in the beginning, but now it won't. I'm assuming samsung has some security checks in place that reverts any changes unless they're official?
I have tried the following:
-dd from a friend's phone who has MI5. No luck, mine is still at MI3.
-created a flashable zip from the update.zip MJ4 OTA. System files get updated fine, but baseband remains at MI3.
-created a flashable zip with just the modem/apnhlos updates. No luck, still remains at MI3.
-created a odin tar with MI5 modem/apnhlos from a friend's phone. No luck, ODIN refuses to flash it.
-tried flashing the official MI5 update from MI3 with stock recovery. No luck, signature verification error.
-tried flashing the official MJ4 update from MI3 with stock recovery. Obviously no luck, signature verification error, and i'm on an older MI3.
-tried creating an all in one flashable from MI3 all the way up to MI4. Works in custom recovery, however, baseband remains at MI3.
-tried dd aboot, rpm, tz, sbl1, sdi, manually from adb, then applying MI5 update, then MJ4. No luck, baseband remains at MI3
It looks as though if you haven't been officially updated, it refuses to update any of the core firmware.
I'm pretty stumped and annoyed at Samsung for their HTC-style crap they're pulling on us. This may be my last Samsung phone.
If anyone has any ideas or would like to test things please feel free to reply back with suggestions or whatever.

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How can the signature verification be fixed
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Well I wonder if we can get it to work through kies.
It seems to me this was something we had to do at one point with the epic 4G the one with the slide case.

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stereo386 said:
How can the signature verification be fixed
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That's a good question, because i'm applying the untouched update.zip and it still says signature verification failed.
danweb66 said:
Well I wonder if we can get it to work through kies.
It seems to me this was something we had to do at one point with the epic 4G the one with the slide case.
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Probably, but kies keeps telling me that firmware initialization isn't available for my phone
The problem isn't how to update officially, it's how to apply baseband updates for rooted people, which is looking very hard or impossible to do.
It's like .....if you're rooted, you can't get anything. We can keep updating the android system just fine, but any firmware or baseband updates absolutely refuse to apply. I'm guessing a firmware update is what solved the audio popping problems too. Maybe a android system update did, but who knows.

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When I tried to update through the stock recovery it said the signature verification failed but the update finished. But in the phone nothing changes at all. That's kinda strange I've never seen that before, it either does the update , or it fails.
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well what im thinking right off the bat is to modify the actual kies program itself so that we could get it to recognize the firmware we want to update to as the one it finds. if you could get me the extracted files I can see what I can come up with.

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danweb66 said:
well what im thinking right off the bat is to modify the actual kies program itself so that we could get it to recognize the firmware we want to update to as the one it finds. if you could get me the extracted files I can see what I can come up with.
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the original update.zip or the updated MJ4 android system files?

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The other option would be to make a modified odin.

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I'm not knowledgeable but got a question. Can you Odin back to stock mi5 or mi3 via the official stock stuff?
Also you obviously are knox tripped maybe that USA the problem?
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freeza said:
the original update.zip or the updated MJ4 android system files?
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the actual system files.
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cherylbaker said:
I'm not knowledgeable but got a question. Can you Odin back to stock mi5 or mi3 via the official stock stuff?
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you can but it seems that once you have rooted it does not want to upgrade the baseband unless you are unmodified.
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what we need to see is exactly how odin and or kies is communicating with that part of the device and modify it to do it differently.

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danweb66 said:
The other option would be to make a modified odin.
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Yeah that would be an option, if someone can create one with all the necessary files (not just a system image, but recovery, modem, etc) Because the official updates won't apply if you have mixed firmwares. So if a modified odin image were created, it would have to contain all the MI5 firmware as well.
cherylbaker said:
I'm not knowledgeable but got a question. Can you Odin back to stock mi5 or mi3 via the official stock stuff?
Also you obviously are knox tripped maybe that USA the problem?
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You can definitely odin back to MI3. I don't think there is an Odin MI5 around. The problem is, since Samsung is rolling out these updates in stages, probably to avoid server load, people will be stuck on MI3 until they allow more updates. You'll get the error message about roll-out updates exceeding.
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the actual system files.
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you can but it seems that once you have rooted it does not want to upgrade the baseband unless you are unmodified.
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what we need to see is exactly how odin and or kies is communicating with that part of the device and modify it to do it differently.
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I'll upload them in a sec. It'll be like 1.3gb so it may take me around 30 minutes to upload. Also, I don't have the official MJ4 kernel either. I don't know how to properly extract the update.zip. It was created in a way that doesn't allow traditional extraction. If you repair it with winrar, it treats the boot.img as a corrupted file and excludes it from the rebuilt zip file.

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danweb66 said:
the actual system files.
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you can but it seems that once you have rooted it does not want to upgrade the baseband unless you are unmodified.
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what we need to see is exactly how odin and or kies is communicating with that part of the device and modify it to do it differently.
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The update.zip that freeza posted didn't work at all even though I'm not rooted either. Like stated before it gave me the signature verification failed and it went through with the update. But nothing in the system changed not the build number nor the baseband nor anything at all. I'm not trying to sound like an a.. but I just want to explain as clearly as I can.
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freeza said:
Yeah that would be an option, if someone can create one with all the necessary files (not just a system image, but recovery, modem, etc) Because the official updates won't apply if you have mixed firmwares. So if a modified odin image were created, it would have to contain all the MI5 firmware as well..
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Thinking back I believe that was what we did for the original epic. I believe there is a whole section on how we did it at sdx developers forumn.

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danweb66 said:
the actual system files.
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you can but it seems that once you have rooted it does not want to upgrade the baseband unless you are unmodified.
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what we need to see is exactly how odin and or kies is communicating with that part of the device and modify it to do it differently.
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By unmodified do you mean custom status or knox tripped . Only reason I ask is cause I was on mi5 not rooted Samsung strsight. I flashed mi3 stock and rooted via the deja (whatever the no knox trip method is called) faked system status normal with wanam and than took the ota (again straight sammy) to Mi5 and re rooted via deja again.
Now on MI5 rooted BUT I can no longer fake normal status with wanam.
A guy (sorry not sure his name) whom I have been following around thus crazy maze. Claims he flashed back to Mi5 straight sammy and now has normal status again and is on mi5.. not positive if his baseband upgraded don't know if he checked. I believe at this point he is waiting for the ota to stop saying max upgrades .. but we are not knox tripped and so far we have made it to Mi5 rooted normal status no knox trip. . (Assuming he did Check his baseband...
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freeza said:
I'm pretty stumped and annoyed at Samsung for their HTC-style crap they're pulling on us. This may be my last Samsung phone.
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Isn't Sprint the ones responsible?

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cherylbaker said:
By unmodified do you mean custom status or knox tripped . Only reason I ask is cause I was on mi5 not rooted Samsung strsight. I flashed mi3 stock and rooted via the deja (whatever the no knox trip method is called) faked system status normal with wanam and than took the ota (again straight sammy) to Mi5 and re rooted via deja again.
Now on MI5 rooted BUT I can no longer fake normal status with wanam.
A guy (sorry not sure his name) whom I have been following around thus crazy maze. Claims he flashed back to Mi5 straight sammy and now has normal status again and is on mi5.. not positive if his baseband upgraded don't know if he checked. I believe at this point he is waiting for the ota to stop saying max upgrades .. but we are not knox tripped and so far we have made it to Mi5 rooted normal status no knox trip. . (Assuming he did Check his baseband...
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Unmodified meaning custom status. Knox trip as far as i know won't have an affect on your ability to receive updates, BUT now that you mention it, maybe it has an affect on you being able to manually update your baseband. I was only able to do it one time with a flashable zip, and I am not sure if i were knox tripped or not, but i sure am now.
Whoever you can think of, we could definitely use their help!

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freeza said:
Unmodified meaning custom status. Knox trip as far as i know won't have an affect on your ability to receive updates, BUT now that you mention it, maybe it has an affect on you being able to manually update your baseband. I was only able to do it one time with a flashable zip, and I am not sure if i were knox tripped or not, but i sure am now.
Whoever you can think of, we could definitely use their help!
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well i have not rooted this device yet at all only updated to m15 with kies. so if i was to root the way that does not trip the knox and then try a flashable update.zip for cwm I could maybe see if it works or not.

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freeza said:
Unmodified meaning custom status. Knox trip as far as i know won't have an affect on your ability to receive updates, BUT now that you mention it, maybe it has an affect on you being able to manually update your baseband. I was only able to do it one time with a flashable zip, and I am not sure if i were knox tripped or not, but i sure am now.
Whoever you can think of, we could definitely use their help!
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If Knox isn't the reason we can't update then why do we get the error about being "modified" Knox causes that right?
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Before the update came out my phone was saying i was modified when i have not done ANYTHING to my phone yet. I told my brother n he told me to take the SD card out because Samsung has a weird bug with SD cards that if u have too many files or something it'll say ur modified. Idk but after i did that i got the exceeded error..... Also if u just clean up ur SD card it'll work too. He actually sent this
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freeza said:
Unmodified meaning custom status. Knox trip as far as i know won't have an affect on your ability to receive updates, BUT now that you mention it, maybe it has an affect on you being able to manually update your baseband. I was only able to do it one time with a flashable zip, and I am not sure if i were knox tripped or not, but i sure am now.
Whoever you can think of, we could definitely use their help!
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she (sorry )may be thinking of me. I'm out at cota today doing formula 1 stuff so will be a little bit before I can help. But I can say...
Was able to go from mi3 to mi5 (baseband included) using DeLaVega root and wanam. But then had to do some messing to get mi5 to show official.
Alternatively was also able to get official with wanam on mi5 by using the DeLaVega script and wanam on the official mi5 firmware also.
In both cases baseband was changed.when going back to MI3 and forward to mi5.both cases root still worked. Knox still 0x0
Of course no matter which method i try I still get update exceeded and am waiting for mj4.
I do have a few more ideas for you guys but need some time in front of a pc.to be sure. And a copy of the update to verify.
I'll set aside some time this evening.
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danweb66 said:
well i have not rooted this device yet at all only updated to m15 with kies. so if i was to root the way that does not trip the knox and then try a flashable update.zip for cwm I could maybe see if it works or not.
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You'd still flip knox installing com recovery
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MikeyLee said:
If Knox isn't the reason we can't update then why do we get the error about being "modified" Knox causes that right?
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You get modified even without knox flip
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