What is the fundamental difference between stock, preinstalled Google Apps that you would find on your newly bought phone versus the google apps package that you flash over to the phone when installing a custom rom like CM?
I realize that the GAPPS are installed into a system directory as opposed to where all other apps are installed. I don't understand why all GAPPS that come on a new phone are updateable even though they are in the system directory as you can "Uninstall Updates" while with GAPPS that are flashed over with a custom rom are not. Are the GAPPS that you flash after a custom ROM updateable via the Play Store?
Blazing Hornet said:
What is the fundamental difference between stock, preinstalled Google Apps that you would find on your newly bought phone versus the google apps package that you flash over to the phone when installing a custom rom like CM?
I realize that the GAPPS are installed into a system directory as opposed to where all other apps are installed. I don't understand why all GAPPS that come on a new phone are updateable even though they are in the system directory as you can "Uninstall Updates" while with GAPPS that are flashed over with a custom rom are not. Are the GAPPS that you flash after a custom ROM updateable via the Play Store?
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Me, also have the same question. Hoping they were updateable via play store
Blazing Hornet said:
What is the fundamental difference between stock, preinstalled Google Apps that you would find on your newly bought phone versus the google apps package that you flash over to the phone when installing a custom rom like CM?
I realize that the GAPPS are installed into a system directory as opposed to where all other apps are installed. I don't understand why all GAPPS that come on a new phone are updateable even though they are in the system directory as you can "Uninstall Updates" while with GAPPS that are flashed over with a custom rom are not. Are the GAPPS that you flash after a custom ROM updateable via the Play Store?
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Downloadable gapps you can choose which versions i.e standard all Google Apps and core would be basic stuff like playstore and file size would be a lot smaller... As for updating I've never ran into any issues
I've never run into update problems with GAPPs. They are built off of Google's source, so they should be just like any pre-installed app. However, they don't come pre-installed on aftermarket ROMs because of licensing issues. Also, many devs, for example the Slim team, modify their GAPPs so they will respond to the "Dark Slim" or similar toggles. Stock GAPPs won't respond to theming. Oh, many of the aftermarket ROMs are de-odexed and as such, so are the GAPPs packages that go with them.
I believe I understand it now. Correct me if I am wrong. GAPPS include the Play Store and other apps for example Gmail and Maps etc. depending on if it is a standard or core package. All of these will update with newer versions as they are released in the Play Store. Things like the Dialer and Calendar are apps that come with the ROM and are not update able unless the ROM itself is updated.
Why is it then that people download standard packages and not just a core package with the Play Store so that they can immediately download the newest Google Apps?
Blazing Hornet said:
I believe I understand it now. Correct me if I am wrong. GAPPS include the Play Store and other apps for example Gmail and Maps etc. depending on if it is a standard or core package. All of these will update with newer versions as they are released in the Play Store. Things like the Dialer and Calendar are apps that come with the ROM and are not update able unless the ROM itself is updated.
Why is it then that people download standard packages and not just a core package with the Play Store so that they can immediately download the newest Google Apps?
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I think you're a bit confused. Most gapps packages are already somewhat "core" packages and have very few elements extra. If you check Cyanogenmod gapps you'll see them sometimes remove the apps that are available via the Play Store in their changelog.
As for updating, they can update just fine. What you're confusing though probably is on a rom upgrade. When you download a stock OTA update, they contain the updated gapps at least for the core functionality that would "break" the phone if they weren't updated. The others update via Play Store.
On a custom rom update from let's say Android 4.3 to Android 4.4, rom maintainers do not package the gapps with the rom itself for various reasons, one of them being not wanting to get picked on by Google like Cyanogenmod was in the past. They used to have them packaged, but Google didn't want that and the community came to an agreement to provide them separately.
Hope this helps
polobunny said:
I think you're a bit confused. Most gapps packages are already somewhat "core" packages and have very few elements extra. If you check Cyanogenmod gapps you'll see them sometimes remove the apps that are available via the Play Store in their changelog.
As for updating, they can update just fine. What you're confusing though probably is on a rom upgrade. When you download a stock OTA update, they contain the updated gapps at least for the core functionality that would "break" the phone if they weren't updated. The others update via Play Store.
On a custom rom update from let's say Android 4.3 to Android 4.4, rom maintainers do not package the gapps with the rom itself for various reasons, one of them being not wanting to get picked on by Google like Cyanogenmod was in the past. They used to have them packaged, but Google didn't want that and the community came to an agreement to provide them separately.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the explanation
Love your answers on this forum got my NT running nicely...BUT only can get Amazon App store and Google Play store apps WITHout "that device not compatible" on the screen.I tried to update to 4.3 no luck...KatKat 4.4?? IT doesn't even install though CWM 6.x reboot help..Staying with 4.4.2 CyanogenMod Rom with NO PROBLEMS! All apps from both stores install and downloaded just fine had my Nook 2yrs now.
I want to install gapps on rooted imported phone from china. The problem is there is no custom recovery available so I can only use stock recovery. But with frameroot, i was able to root the phone. Now how to install google apps on it specially google play store to download all apps on my phone. Tried searching many places, but I am still looking for the solution.
Hi,
despite I modded some Android Devices (phones, ouya) I still feel I don't know much.
I got my HDX 7" when Amazon offered them for 100 bucks 1,5 years back. I found 3 guides to get another Rom and think none were 100% correct/actual (HDX exposed didn't do anything for me) but with the mixture of the information I could get and alternate ROM and play store luckily not bricking it.
Now if my play store version got an updated I could not go into play store anymore and just got a wide screen. If I deactivated play store in settings/apps it said it wenn back to the original version. Now I could use play store again and install apps. But some apps like YouTube would start running until I get the uptodate version of play store. So most time I ran those apps with the newer play store version and only when I need to get a new app from the store and deactivated/downgraded it in the settings/apps. This went on for over an year.
Now it seems the play store is gone completely as it's not longer listed.
I found two gapps files (is the play store included in gapps? gapps-jb-4.2.2-signed.zip, gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip) for 4.2.2 and copied them to the device via an FTP server and than install the zip via safestrap. On the first boot it asked me for my name and 2 or 3 other values. But there's still no play store. The other file didn't produce better results. I even saw that I still have a file called hdx-nexus-gapps-v1.2.zip. But this also didn't work.
Next file I found is Amazon-Fire-5th-Gen-Install-Play-Store.zip which is extracted on Windows and has it's own ADB. But this didn't help either.
When I start my hdx I now also get something like "Kindle gets updated ... pls wait" and it stays for >30s. I think I didn't see this before.
So any idea what I do wrong?
Should I get a new CM ROM? What would be the best way to install it.
So I thing it's a modified Nexus Rom. There a glowing neon X during boot up. I also have SafeStrap. Build Number is JDQ39; Kernel 3.4.0. Modelnumber KFTHWI. Android Version 4.2.2.
Hi,
I've got my hands on a cheap chinese phone from a brand called "V7". The model is "Zyro". Unfortunately, the phone didn't come to me with pre-installed Google Play store. Nor is it rooted or flashed with custom recovery like TWRP. I wanted to install some apps on it via transferring data from PC to the phone. I've sourced apps such as Youtube, Facebook, Messenger, Google Internet Services, Google Play Store etc. from a trusted website apkmirror. Unfortunately, most of the apps seem to cause errors while attempting to install. The errors state that the apps are not meant "for this device". I've tried versions designed for numerous architectures such as 32 and 64 bit, as well as arm64-V8a based CPUs. I can't understand why is this happening as majority of those apps state in the description that they are either universal or are expected to work since Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. I have problems installing GBoard (Google Keyboard) and Samsung Keyboard on the device as I'm stuck with some chinese virtual input called "Sogou". I've tried to flash the device with custom recovery but unfortunately didn't find a version of TWRP which would be compatible with my device. The same happened when I've tried to find any sort of custom rom or even official, android stock rom. I would like to ask you:
1. What are possible causes of such majority of apps being not compatible with this device despite the fact that it seems to be a generic android phone?
2. Why universal input apps such as Google's Gboard crash after a while or do not install at all?
3. How can I safely flash the device with a custom recovery?
Thanks in advance
Eva