What is the fundamental difference between stock, preinstalled Google Apps that you would find on your newly bought phone versus the google apps package that you flash over to the phone when installing a custom rom like CM?
I realize that the GAPPS are installed into a system directory as opposed to where all other apps are installed. I don't understand why all GAPPS that come on a new phone are updateable even though they are in the system directory as you can "Uninstall Updates" while with GAPPS that are flashed over with a custom rom are not. Are the GAPPS that you flash after a custom ROM updateable via the Play Store?
Blazing Hornet said:
What is the fundamental difference between stock, preinstalled Google Apps that you would find on your newly bought phone versus the google apps package that you flash over to the phone when installing a custom rom like CM?
I realize that the GAPPS are installed into a system directory as opposed to where all other apps are installed. I don't understand why all GAPPS that come on a new phone are updateable even though they are in the system directory as you can "Uninstall Updates" while with GAPPS that are flashed over with a custom rom are not. Are the GAPPS that you flash after a custom ROM updateable via the Play Store?
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Me, also have the same question. Hoping they were updateable via play store
Blazing Hornet said:
What is the fundamental difference between stock, preinstalled Google Apps that you would find on your newly bought phone versus the google apps package that you flash over to the phone when installing a custom rom like CM?
I realize that the GAPPS are installed into a system directory as opposed to where all other apps are installed. I don't understand why all GAPPS that come on a new phone are updateable even though they are in the system directory as you can "Uninstall Updates" while with GAPPS that are flashed over with a custom rom are not. Are the GAPPS that you flash after a custom ROM updateable via the Play Store?
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Downloadable gapps you can choose which versions i.e standard all Google Apps and core would be basic stuff like playstore and file size would be a lot smaller... As for updating I've never ran into any issues
I've never run into update problems with GAPPs. They are built off of Google's source, so they should be just like any pre-installed app. However, they don't come pre-installed on aftermarket ROMs because of licensing issues. Also, many devs, for example the Slim team, modify their GAPPs so they will respond to the "Dark Slim" or similar toggles. Stock GAPPs won't respond to theming. Oh, many of the aftermarket ROMs are de-odexed and as such, so are the GAPPs packages that go with them.
I believe I understand it now. Correct me if I am wrong. GAPPS include the Play Store and other apps for example Gmail and Maps etc. depending on if it is a standard or core package. All of these will update with newer versions as they are released in the Play Store. Things like the Dialer and Calendar are apps that come with the ROM and are not update able unless the ROM itself is updated.
Why is it then that people download standard packages and not just a core package with the Play Store so that they can immediately download the newest Google Apps?
Blazing Hornet said:
I believe I understand it now. Correct me if I am wrong. GAPPS include the Play Store and other apps for example Gmail and Maps etc. depending on if it is a standard or core package. All of these will update with newer versions as they are released in the Play Store. Things like the Dialer and Calendar are apps that come with the ROM and are not update able unless the ROM itself is updated.
Why is it then that people download standard packages and not just a core package with the Play Store so that they can immediately download the newest Google Apps?
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I think you're a bit confused. Most gapps packages are already somewhat "core" packages and have very few elements extra. If you check Cyanogenmod gapps you'll see them sometimes remove the apps that are available via the Play Store in their changelog.
As for updating, they can update just fine. What you're confusing though probably is on a rom upgrade. When you download a stock OTA update, they contain the updated gapps at least for the core functionality that would "break" the phone if they weren't updated. The others update via Play Store.
On a custom rom update from let's say Android 4.3 to Android 4.4, rom maintainers do not package the gapps with the rom itself for various reasons, one of them being not wanting to get picked on by Google like Cyanogenmod was in the past. They used to have them packaged, but Google didn't want that and the community came to an agreement to provide them separately.
Hope this helps
polobunny said:
I think you're a bit confused. Most gapps packages are already somewhat "core" packages and have very few elements extra. If you check Cyanogenmod gapps you'll see them sometimes remove the apps that are available via the Play Store in their changelog.
As for updating, they can update just fine. What you're confusing though probably is on a rom upgrade. When you download a stock OTA update, they contain the updated gapps at least for the core functionality that would "break" the phone if they weren't updated. The others update via Play Store.
On a custom rom update from let's say Android 4.3 to Android 4.4, rom maintainers do not package the gapps with the rom itself for various reasons, one of them being not wanting to get picked on by Google like Cyanogenmod was in the past. They used to have them packaged, but Google didn't want that and the community came to an agreement to provide them separately.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the explanation
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Hi, I just transitioned to CyanogenMod 12.1 and I want to install the Google Play Store app but I'm not sure what are the advantages of flashing a minimal GApps package over simply sideloading the APK... or whether there even are any advantages at all. I know that the GApps package also includes some extra functionality, but what is that functionality and can I do without it?
Just the Play Store alone isn't enough. It's best to install a Gapps package because it will install the Google Services Framework, Play Store, and a couple more things needed to make it work. I find it best to flash an appropriate package and then just disable whatever you don't need after you boot. If you uninstall something important, it's more of a pain to install again vs just defreezing the app. You don't save any more usable space by deleting them anyway as they are stored in a different partition vs apps you load from the Play Store.
Remix Mini loses Google apps in latest OS update
http://liliputing.com/2016/05/remix-mini-loses-google-apps-latest-os-update.html
Will it spread to the PC version? Hmm...
if you;ve been around Android for more than a week, you know that Google doesn't like bundling GAPPS so that's not surprising and really no impact.
CM and lots of other ROMs don't bundle GAPPS, and its easy to download the latest spin.
That won't be a problem. You can just flash GApps.
Besides, the Remix for pc I donwloaded also didn't come with any google apps but did come with a link to how to easily install them.
People who don't want google apps are free, those who do are just a download away.
miva2 said:
That won't be a problem. You can just flash GApps.
Besides, the Remix for pc I donwloaded also didn't come with any google apps but did come with a link to how to easily install them.
People who don't want google apps are free, those who do are just a download away.
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The PC version does bundle GApps, they're just disabled with a system policy.
The link shows how to enable them.
I recently purchased a Moto E so that I could install Cyanogenmod onto it. I was able to follow all the instructions on https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_surnia. When I boot my phone Cyanogenmod works find, however none of the google apps appear in the Android App Tray.
So far I have tried both the the nano and the full version from opengapps.org, but neither works. I am primarly interested in getting the Google App store installed on my phone so that I can have easy access to installing new apps without having to locate .apk files. I would also like to experment with google voice typing even if I untimatly decide that feature is not worth the device overhead.
Has anyone else experinced problems installing Google Apps in my setup?
Phone:Moto E 2015 (XT1526)
Cyanogenmod: cm-13.0-20161001-NIGHTLY-surnia.zip
Gapps: open_gapps-arm-6.0-nano-20160828.zip
TeamWin: twrp-3.0.2-0-surnia.img
TheLexx said:
I recently purchased a Moto E so that I could install Cyanogenmod onto it. I was able to follow all the instructions on https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_surnia. When I boot my phone Cyanogenmod works find, however none of the google apps appear in the Android App Tray.
So far I have tried both the the nano and the full version from opengapps.org, but neither works. I am primarly interested in getting the Google App store installed on my phone so that I can have easy access to installing new apps without having to locate .apk files. I would also like to experment with google voice typing even if I untimatly decide that feature is not worth the device overhead.
Has anyone else experinced problems installing Google Apps in my setup?
Phone:Moto E 2015 (XT1526)
Cyanogenmod: cm-13.0-20161001-NIGHTLY-surnia.zip
Gapps: open_gapps-arm-6.0-nano-20160828.zip
TeamWin: twrp-3.0.2-0-surnia.img
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Did you install the GAPPS immediately after flashing, without booting in between?
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The second time I wiped the first install. Then I reinstalled new CM13and Gapps at the same time.
Go ahead and mark this one solved. I just used the aroma version of open gapps, now it works! I suppose there is some mystery as to why I could not install the two other versions, but I don't want to waste time trying to figure it out. Aroma is the version that allows the used to choose which packages to install
TheLexx said:
Go ahead and mark this one solved. I just used the aroma version of open gapps, now it works! I suppose there is some mystery as to why I could not install the two other versions, but I don't want to waste time trying to figure it out. Aroma is the version that allows the used to choose which packages to install
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Great to hear! Enjoy CM 13!
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Hi everyone!
I want to want to know how Gapps updates works.
I installed Gapps Pico for ARM64 and I want to know if I have to manually update Gapps Pico (Google PlayStore and Play services) by flashing the new version via recovery or once I have installed Gapps, it updates automatically itself.
For example, Google Apps for manufactures updates automaticallyl and you can see that Google Play Store has an Update or something.
Actually I receive apps(Instagram, WhatsApp, Norton and so on) updates perfectly but since a I have installed Gapps in February 23 (I know that is too soon to expect a Google Play Store update, but I want to know if I have to update Gapps manually or I have not worry about it) I'm asking myself about this.
Thanks for your help!
For me pico dasn't support install from webpage play and dasn't support next upadate. I must use nano version.
jivo said:
For me pico dasn't support install from webpage play and dasn't support next upadate. I must use nano version.
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I'm sorry but I don't get what you said
If you are talking about installing apps from the play store website, me neither. I just can see which apps I have installed! But I really don't care too much about it.
I prefer lightness over some features and apps.
Have you received any update for the Play Store using Pico?
Hello,
I have a GOME C71 as a secondary phone which i use for my work as a test bench (mainly website development)
When i bought it on facebook, there was already all the google stuff installed, but the UI randomly crashed when I pressed the "running app" buton. So i decided to flash a stock firmware (found at needrom.com)
The flash was ok, but now, there is no GAPPS anymore (even if the ROM description says GAPPS included). Tried everything (some Google apps installer : didn't download anything, Installed manually the framework, the services and all other google apps : launch but stuck in verifying information)
So, if someone have a trick to make GAPPS available on this phone, or if someone has a custom ROM with GAPPS, please tell me as i really need google services for testing stuff.
Thanks
Could you kindly share this ROM if you still have it.
franco2mada said:
Hello,
I have a GOME C71 as a secondary phone which i use for my work as a test bench (mainly website development)
When i bought it on facebook, there was already all the google stuff installed, but the UI randomly crashed when I pressed the "running app" buton. So i decided to flash a stock firmware (found at needrom.com)
The flash was ok, but now, there is no GAPPS anymore (even if the ROM description says GAPPS included). Tried everything (some Google apps installer : didn't download anything, Installed manually the framework, the services and all other google apps : launch but stuck in verifying information)
So, if someone have a trick to make GAPPS available on this phone, or if someone has a custom ROM with GAPPS, please tell me as i really need google services for testing stuff.
Thanks
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