I just got my LG G2 yesterday. I also have a Nexus 7 2013 and an old Galaxy Nexus. I have a Nexus 7 charger at home and work. I have a modified Fast Charge 2.0A Car charger.
My N7 and GN could "AC" charge off of all of them. The G2 is "slow" charging off all of them. They are all 3 different models of chargers, all above 2.0A so there is plenty of oomph to get it the power it needs.
So whats up with that?
I just tested it. It isn't the Charger but the damn cables. Does LG have some kind of funky pinout for the charger?! Using the supplied cable, it is working on all of my other chargers. If I use my old cable it "Slow Charges" even with the included LG USB Charger.
So something in that cable is altering the amount of power it gets. That SUCKS!
My Nexus 7 will AC charge off the LG Cable. So it's something with that cable that the G2 likes.
LG is notorious for changing stuff around. On the G2x they flipped around the headphone control pins and came out with an additional headset for extra $$ which rendered every other headset with music controls useless. So basically now I have to go and replace all of my USB cables with something LG likes (which will almost be impossible to order something online). Anyone else having issues with other chargers? Luckily it IS taking a charge but just at USB speeds (Slow charge). I use Qi Charging at home for at night, so that isn't an issue but in my Home Office, Work Office, and (especially) my Car I need a fast charge. In the Car, using GPS with the screen on will still deplete on USB power. A fast charge is the only one that can still charge the battery under a heavy load. Similar to watching a movie probably.
All my USB cables woks fine. I would use the included Amazon Kindle cable since it is easily the longest cable with out issue. However older cables do have the problem you described but I suspect it isn't something LG specifics but rather the amount of pins connected in the cables.
-LG G2
I found that my Samsung cables from my S4 and Note 2 work fine with the G2, but any of my other cables, whether they be the cheap $3 ones, ones from other phones, or expensive ones, only charge at the slow rate. I'm hoping we can get a custom kernel that removes that restriction.
So it charges a little slower. Is this a major issue? If so, use the charger provided. Failing to see the problem here.
Maybe its just me. I get that a lot.
My Note 2 2A charger and USB works just fine. If not faster.
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My N7 2013 charger works perfectly.
player911 said:
I just got my LG G2 yesterday. I also have a Nexus 7 2013 and an old Galaxy Nexus. I have a Nexus 7 charger at home and work. I have a modified Fast Charge 2.0A Car charger.
My N7 and GN could "AC" charge off of all of them. The G2 is "slow" charging off all of them. They are all 3 different models of chargers, all above 2.0A so there is plenty of oomph to get it the power it needs.
So whats up with that?
I just tested it. It isn't the Charger but the damn cables. Does LG have some kind of funky pinout for the charger?! Using the supplied cable, it is working on all of my other chargers. If I use my old cable it "Slow Charges" even with the included LG USB Charger.
So something in that cable is altering the amount of power it gets. That SUCKS!
My Nexus 7 will AC charge off the LG Cable. So it's something with that cable that the G2 likes.
LG is notorious for changing stuff around. On the G2x they flipped around the headphone control pins and came out with an additional headset for extra $$ which rendered every other headset with music controls useless. So basically now I have to go and replace all of my USB cables with something LG likes (which will almost be impossible to order something online). Anyone else having issues with other chargers? Luckily it IS taking a charge but just at USB speeds (Slow charge). I use Qi Charging at home for at night, so that isn't an issue but in my Home Office, Work Office, and (especially) my Car I need a fast charge. In the Car, using GPS with the screen on will still deplete on USB power. A fast charge is the only one that can still charge the battery under a heavy load. Similar to watching a movie probably.
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Have you tried going to settings>general>PC connection and setting "charge phone" there, as the phone limits the current allowed through if it's on MTP because MTP simply can't handle it.
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My N7 2013 charger works perfectly.
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I am also using N7 2013 charger and it charged pretty fast. But now i'm also trying out a speakerdock. I don't know how fast that is but the n7 charger is pretty fast.
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I have the same problem OP. if I don't go to bed early enough for slow charge to feed this monster battery I wake up below 100%. It really isn't that big of an issue because the battery lasts anyways but I don't like leaving home below 100%.
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So it charges a little slower. Is this a major issue? If so, use the charger provided. Failing to see the problem here.
Maybe its just me. I get that a lot.
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The Problem is that it is annoying. Not only is it charging "Slower" but also throw a icon up in the Status bar that you can't dismiss that says "Slow Charging. To Charge faster, use the original charger".
But I want to repeat that it is NOT the actual charger but the USB cables. It WILL fast charge (aka normal charge) using all of my various chargers WHEN I use specific USB Cables. Most of my cables will only slow charge, which is equivalent to a USB trickle charge that can't even charge it fast enough to power the screen. If you use the device in this mode, it still loses power with the screen on.
It just seems there is something in the cable itself that is either not connected or passing through the info to turn up the faster charging. I know the cables are Power+Data cables because I use them for ADB and MPT.
Most cables are not working. I've found a few that are. Unfortunately my 10ft desk cables and my curly car one is NOT working.
The Original Nexus 7 was picky about chargers. It wouldn't even see my car charger where my Galaxy Nexus and New Nexus 7 2013 both show AC (fast charge).
I think the difference between a slow charge and a fast charge is something like 0-100% on fast charge is 3 hours where it's like 9-10 on a slow charge. THAT is the problem.
Update:
Seems this is a legitimate case regarding the Verizon LG G2s AFTER they've received the latest OTA update. It will only charge normally on the included cable. All other cables will result in a Notification that the phone is "Slow Charging" and charges only on 500mAh. You cannot dismiss the notification. Which is the annoying part.
Current ongoing discussions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460881
As of this posting, it affects all Verizon G2 users and there is no solution. We suspect it is just a Verizon bug. No other cables will charge normally.
No. Mentioned in that thread, my car charger from Verizon charges at ~1000mA. Long, curly, and thick. The new one with the LED and shorted pins. Attached cable and USB work on said charger. The problem is AWG, short, and voltage drops. I have yet to find a working usb cable though.
Mine (D802, EU model, GB variant):
- Belkin Charger 2.1A, N7 2013 cable -> slow charging
- N7 2013 charger + N7 2013 cable -> fast charging
So it's not just the cable; it's also dependent on the charger.
The voltage drop in the cable will cause the phone to draw a substantially lower charge. Therr doesn't seem to be anything unusual about the cable other than it being unusually good quality, being thick and short.
When charging, it's important having a charger with the data pins shorted, but I think most wall charger are. The slow charge warnings are something special in the Verizon models, I only get a slow charge warning when It's actually slow on my d802.
It will appear as though there is a difference of what will happen if there is a voltage drop in the cable based in your carrier model, but the hardware which charges the phone should be standard, albeit probably better quality than most other chargers.
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Hmnmm
I stopped worrying about cables, adapters, etc by using a TYLT VU wireless charger. It chargers both my Verizon lg g2 and my Nexus 7-2013 fully and quickly. My g2 takes only 2-3 hours and my Nexus is in a leather case.
No wworries, just lay either one on its 45 degee angle platform and forget about it. Truly a wonderful charger.
I have a Samsung Qi Charger. I don't worry about it but there is a software bug with the Verizon model since the OTA update. Another thread listed above tells of the details.
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the solution is simple. just shortcircut data+ and data- and it will fast charge.
hopefully som Kernel hacker can build us a new Kernel. when the phone detect data connection it goes to 500mah. if u chortcircut them 1a+
maydayind said:
the solution is simple. just shortcircut data+ and data- and it will fast charge.
hopefully som Kernel hacker can build us a new Kernel. when the phone detect data connection it goes to 500mah. if u chortcircut them 1a+
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This is NOT the case. The Verizon variant is very picky and requires a 24g USB 3.0 cable or else it will force slow charging at 500mah.
There is a whole thread with findings thats like 30 pages long. The Verizon model is not behaving like the other variants, so unless you have a Verizon model with the latest OTA and have personally tested and found a working solution, then you need not comment.
This thread should be closed so random uninformed persons stop making false accusations. This thread was started over a real problem but didn't take off. Another thread was created that did, and it is linked above. This is a real problem with a real solution. All real findings and discoveries are listed in that active thread listed above.
This should be a place holder for searches but needs no new comments. Please direct all comments to the other thread linked above.
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And linked here for easy reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460881
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Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
Stock ROM, rooted, unlocked, s-off
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arisch86 said:
Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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Same here. Glad to hear it is not just me. I just got off with NA HTC Tech Support. There official stance is that they do not recommend or support using any device other than the official charging cable and plug in device. They went as far to say that they do not support charging in the car. I just about flipped my lid on the phone.
Here is the link to their site: http://www.htc.com/us/support/howto...783&p_name=droid-dna-by-htc-(verizon-wireless)
"Only the power adapter and USB cable provided in the box must be used to charge the battery"
I was told by Verizon that this was just a scare tactic, while HTC says I am not getting the right charge and they have no answer since they do not support DC charging in the car. Any info people have is appreciated. It works fine with Hard Wired DC -MicroUSB, but not with any USB Plug in.
Any apps that would help me measure the amount of charge it is getting?
Thanks in advance.
What are the specs on your car charger?
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So odd that they would do that, especially with the power draw of the phone. However you can charge using the battery packs?
My car adapter is a Macally USB car adapter model carusb10 output 5v/2.1 amp x1 500mA x2.
As for my house adapters the RCA 2 port USB wall adapter. 2.1 Amp x 1 or 1000mA x 2 I believe.
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Everyone with a stock DNA unplug your charger and flip it around. As in flip the prongs. It should give you this message even with the HTC supplied one. Or try this. When you use another charger and it gives you that message unplug it and flip it. It should straighten out. I dunno. Something about the way the power is drawn.
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Everyone with a stock DNA unplug your charger and flip it around. As in flip the prongs. It should give you this message even with the HTC supplied one. Or try this. When you use another charger and it gives you that message unplug it and flip it. It should straighten out. I dunno. Something about the way the power is drawn.
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I have tried several different USB adaptors, from Razorfish(BestBuy), Belkin single USB input 2.1amp, innocell (RadioShack) dual SUB 3.1amp. Same problem on all.
On the other hand, any direct Wall connection with USB cable attached seems to work fine.
Also, I have the Motorola p4000 battery backup and when I plug that in, it also works fine and views it as AC.
Swapping the pins didn't work for me, same issue. Its a pita for me especially charging in the car because when using phone for navigation it charges so slow that it can't actually charge my phone and my battery decreases. I've went the route in the car I use my nexus 7 charger connected to an inverter.
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From my phone conversation with Seth from HTC Support, the slow charging warning is due to the update because the update incorporates the faster charging feature that qualcomm & htc have referenced too recently (can't remember what its actually called). The phone has a new type of charging setup that makes it charge faster than some other phones.
Unfortunately some chargers (wall/car) dont supply enough voltage to activate the charging feature so while the phone does charge fine (it charges at standard phone charge rate) it cannot charge at the faster rate due to the charger.
He states that this will not harm the phone and ther phone will charge fine and it a normal time. You can disregard the warning. For those that like the faster charge rate, you have to use the right charger/cable.
Before the update our phones were mostly charging at the slower rate and that's why most didn't see a warning unless the cable being used was below the standard rate of charge.
Hope this helps
arisch86 said:
Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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Why are there so many problems about this thing lately even me, I experience this most of the time
When I use the Best Buy 2.1 amp wall charger I still get the message.
I'll need to find my oem wall charger.
So far every one I have gives this message.
I haven't seen this message at all on any of my charges but I haven't charged in the car yet. My battery usually lasts for more than the while day so I just charge at night.
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Well with the faster charging enabled it does charge pretty quick especially using my nexus 7 wall adapter, even with my Nokia Qi pad. But man that last percent takes a while.
As of now I'm using supercharged hatka ROM slim 3.0.3 and getting good battery life. Even in the middle of nowhere where 75% percent of the time when I'm in the plant its searching for signal. I'll leave work after 8 hours and still be at 60%
Guess you can say its the only negative I have for the phone. Trust me the battery life is much better in the plant then my old bionic. I use to have to change the standard battery after 4 or 5 hours as it was completely dead.
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Last night I received my daughters replacement Rezound from the warranty company. It came with a 1 amp wall charger.
I plugged it into my DNA and did not get the notice of slower charging and it charged quicker than I've ever seen it.
Too bad my 2.1 best buy one won't.
The quick charge capable chargers must output just slightly higher voltage to trigger the rapid charge mode.
I'll experiment some day and see.
This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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I have the charger that came with the phone it it fully charges my DNA in 2 hours from 3%
Funkertosh said:
This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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I kinda figured it was something with the pins if I wasn't voltage offset.
I did find that one of my car chargers from best buy runs in quick charge. The cable I fixed, rather than using a usb cable in a slot on the charger.
The best number 2.1 amp wall charger uses a data type cable.
Maybe I'll check into shorting the pins on that sucker to get quick charge mode.
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This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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The phone is doing more than checking pins now. I have a 2.1 Amp dual charger with pins shorted and get the warning. It happily charged in AC mode before the update. The charger can also charge a nexus 10 at 2 Amps. I'm guessing the kernel devs will have to locate the source of the warning. I thought the resistance between the data pins might be the trigger, but there is no difference between the HTC charger and my dual charger. It does seem my car charger is unaffected.
I have found that to trick the phone into AC mode you have to short the the actual cable. Hence strip the insulation off the wires and short the data wires together. Has worked for me on all my chargers.
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This message does not have to do with the update. I have still not updated my DNA and have been struggling with this for about 6 or 8 months. I am on 2.08. The issue has continually gotten worse since the first time I saw it. At first it would just appear about 1 in 10 times I plugged it in to a car charger. It then got to the point where it would only not show the message with a certain car charger. Now it is showing it on the one car charger that works, but if I mess around with it and unplug and replug it a few times it will finally charge normally. The last few days it has started showing the message on the OEM charger. I have cleaned out the port on the phone and cables quite a few times now, but it doesn't help. I found that doing that only helps if it gets really full of lint and the cable rocks in the port causing it to loose connection if you move it, but it does not change the slow charging message at all. The phone is also definitely not charging at full speed when that message is shown. If I have it plugged in and it shows that message my battery actually drains if the screen is on. With the screen off I only gain about 10% per hour. I am not sure where the issue is, but I think it is different in different circumstances. In my case I think it is the phone itself, but from what I have read about others experiences it seems their problem might be the charger/cord. I hope this gets sorted out soon.
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This message does not have to do with the update. I have still not updated my DNA and have been struggling with this for about 6 or 8 months. I am on 2.08. The issue has continually gotten worse since the first time I saw it. At first it would just appear about 1 in 10 times I plugged it in to a car charger. It then got to the point where it would only not show the message with a certain car charger. Now it is showing it on the one car charger that works, but if I mess around with it and unplug and replug it a few times it will finally charge normally. The last few days it has started showing the message on the OEM charger. I have cleaned out the port on the phone and cables quite a few times now, but it doesn't help. I found that doing that only helps if it gets really full of lint and the cable rocks in the port causing it to loose connection if you move it, but it does not change the slow charging message at all. The phone is also definitely not charging at full speed when that message is shown. If I have it plugged in and it shows that message my battery actually drains if the screen is on. With the screen off I only gain about 10% per hour. I am not sure where the issue is, but I think it is different in different circumstances. In my case I think it is the phone itself, but from what I have read about others experiences it seems their problem might be the charger/cord. I hope this gets sorted out soon.
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It could be the charging equipment your phone or it could also be the power source not providing enough power to the device for it to charge fast so it charges slow.
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Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
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c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
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If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
nest75068 said:
Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
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Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
Harbinger1080 said:
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
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My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it charging. How can I fix this issue.
webb7735 said:
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it charging. How can I fix this issue.
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Car chargers work much slower than a wall charger because of the output of it. If you have the screen on, using gps, and listening to music at the same time it won't charge or it will actually drain.
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webb7735;4216o87 said:
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it chargine. How can I fix this issue.
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Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheap 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require. Also, don't forget to chech your usb cable. It may look fine, but could be stretched or damaged causing a bad charge connection. But definitely avoid cheap car chargers. Not only can they work sporadically, they may actually damage your phone.
MUOTE=BoostedB18C;42146532]Car chargers work much slower than a wall charger because of the output of it. If you have the screen on, using gps, and listening to music at the same time it won't charge or it will actually drain.[/QUOTE]
I have tried charging my phone with it turned off when its charging in my car i dont use it i just let it charge but it doesnt work. Its ok not a big deal i can charge it at home and get a good day and a half on a full charge. I was just wondering if there was a way to fix it.
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pp
Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheal 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require.
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Thanks for the info. I will try that.
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pp
Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheap 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require. Also, don't forget to chech your usb cable. It may look fine, but could be stretched or damaged causing a bad charge connection. But definitely avoid cheap car chargers. Not only can they work sporadically, they may actually damage your phone.
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This, I just didn't feel like explaining it all. Also using an inverter can cause problems with strain on the electrical load of the vehicle though. If you have a big truck, they are safe to use. If you have a civic, I wouldn't use one.
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webb7735 said:
Thanks for the info. I will try that.
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You are most welcome.
BoostedB18C said:
This, I just didn't feel like explaining it all. Also using an inverter can cause problems with strain on the electrical load of the vehicle though. If you have a big truck, they are safe to use. If you have a civic, I wouldn't use one.
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I used one all the time when I had my Civic Si to power mine and a friends laptops when in town, we didn't have high speed at our houses and the provider wanted 50k to bring it, and I never experienced any issues with electrical strain. Im not saying it doesn't happen but with the newer vehicles it isn't that much of an issue.
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I used one all the time when I had my Civic Si to power mine and a friends laptops when in town, we didn't have high speed at our houses and the provider wanted 50k to bring it, and I never experienced any issues with electrical strain. Im not saying it doesn't happen but with the newer vehicles it isn't that much of an issue.
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Thanks for the info.
Hi everyone,
I have just swapped my Galaxy S3 to a HTC One X+ because I couldn't stand Samsung's Touchwiz, and I love Sense 5. The downside is the charging times on this new phone are pretty laughable!
Now I know different cables can give different currents consistently, but I have three cables (one at work, one in car, one at home) that would all deliver 1000mA to my GS3 and I could go from 10% to 100% in about 90 minutes, about 1% per minute, it was great! Battery life on this phone never degraded so I know 1000mA wasn't damaging at all (all GS3s can take a maximum of 1A).
I've now moved over to the HOX+ and it's taking absolutely forever to charge, between 3-4 hours to charge from low. I simply can't wait this long, it's beyond a joke :crying: I've checked Better Battery Stats and my battery usage is about the same as my GS3 when unplugged (about 4-5% per hour) which is fine, so why the difference in charging times?
On my GS3 I had an app which showed me charging current that was specific to GS3s and was very reliable, but I can't seem to find a reliable app for the HOX+, the one I have is Battery Monitor Widget and it reckons I'm charging @ 330mA and I'm currently at 22%, that can't be right can it?
Here is what my phone is says when charging "Charging (USB)".
In the past hour it's done about 20%.
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Keydogg1 said:
Here is what my phone is says when charging "Charging (USB)".
In the past hour it's done about 20%.
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Erm thats the issue. When you charge using the AC (By cable to the electric socket) it says "Charging(AC)" . This usually takes me from 10-100% in about 90 minutes with the HOX+.
Somehow either you are connecting it to a usb hub (laptop or a computer) which is pretty slow compared to the AC, or your phone is mixing up the AC and USB currents. So an advice, use an electric socket and make sure it says "AC" in the power tab. IF so, check the charging time you should find it similar to that of Samsung.
I also think usb 3.0 is faster in charging than 2.0 ? If you are on a new pc with a new motherboard you should find your sockets 3.0, so don't use a usb hub especially if it says usb 2.0 since it will be pretty slow.
Hi Gand0ur, thanks for the advice.
I should have said before; I never charge via a computer/laptop/USB hub. Only directly into the wall. It is an aftermarket charger but it's a good quality one as it charged my GS3 @ 1A and also my old Sensation charged in about 90 mins.
I've just tried a different cable and still the same outcome. I'll try another wall plug when I get home tonight
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Hi Gand0ur, thanks for the advice.
I should have said before; I never charge via a computer/laptop/USB hub. Only directly into the wall. It is an aftermarket charger but it's a good quality one as it charged my GS3 @ 1A and also my old Sensation charged in about 90 mins.
I've just tried a different cable and still the same outcome. I'll try another wall plug when I get home tonight
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Sorry.. I am kinda sleepy so I posted without saying any thing. Anyway I wanted to post a pic of the text on ny stock charger. Says the following : output: 5v ~ 1A .
I will post a picture when I wake up in a couple of hours.
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Ghand0ur said:
Sorry.. I am kinda sleepy so I posted without saying any thing. Anyway I wanted to post a pic of the text on ny stock charger. Says the following : output: 5v ~ 1A .
I will post a picture when I wake up in a couple of hours.
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No problem! The charger I am currently using is a 5V/2A (for tablets) and has worked fine for every phone previously, giving 1A current.
Keydogg1 said:
Hi Gand0ur, thanks for the advice.
I should have said before; I never charge via a computer/laptop/USB hub. Only directly into the wall. It is an aftermarket charger but it's a good quality one as it charged my GS3 @ 1A and also my old Sensation charged in about 90 mins.
I've just tried a different cable and still the same outcome. I'll try another wall plug when I get home tonight
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dont ever use after market charger even though it is for tablet or note samsung...i tried and it is prety damn slow...
so just use your htc/stock charger...it will be fast charge...2hr the most maybe less...
anyen said:
dont ever use after market charger even though it is for tablet or note samsung...i tried and it is prety damn slow....
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That isn't necessarily true. This charger has been the fastest thing to ever charge my HTC Sensation and GS3, and come to think of it my Nexus 7 charges faster with this charger too. As I said earlier, I had an app on the GS3 which showed it was outputting 1000mA (maximum the GS3 allows) and it would charge that phone in around 90 mins. According to the HOX+ app I have I'm only getting 330mA. Whilst I agree that poorer after-market chargers often give dubious results I'm confident that this isn't the charger's fault.
I'll try the a HTC charger when I get home, but the other night I had it on charge with the HTC charger and it didn't seem to move very quickly.
I'll just say what I know from experience with my HOX+: it only seems to be charging in a normal (and pretty fast) way with the original, from the box, charger.
I tried charging it with the charger from a Desire Z - slow; charger from Desire S - slow; a Nokia charger - slow.
I also noticed that while the Desire S or Z can get charged while being used, when using a car charger (a Nokia one), the HOX+ seems to be using more current, and it ultimately dies. It happened this summer, so this might be an issue.
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I'll just say what I know from experience with my HOX+: it only seems to be charging in a normal (and pretty fast) way with the original, from the box, charger.
I tried charging it with the charger from a Desire Z - slow; charger from Desire S - slow; a Nokia charger - slow.
I also noticed that while the Desire S or Z can get charged while being used, when using a car charger (a Nokia one), the HOX+ seems to be using more current, and it ultimately dies. It happened this summer, so this might be an issue.
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I think you're right! I tried my wife's HTC One S charger last night (because the HOX+ doesn't come with one) and it changed to Charging (AC) for the first time. I have to say this is a massive let down for me, my car charger saved me so many times with my GS3 (for example I drove to Scotland and used GPS all the way, and the phone still charged right up at the same time) I'm not sure I can handle it not being able to cope with other chargers.
I find this extremely frustrating Is there not a hack to get around this with root?
I'm not sure about the Samsung, but the HTC will only go into the fast/AC Charging mode when it see the Data+ and Date- signals shorted on the USB port. This can be designed into the charger, such as the factory HTC wall charger, or you can buy "charging only" cables and then use any USB charger to get your HTC to go into AC charging mode. These charging only cables are tough to find, but amazon does sell them. Keep in mind that the charging only cables will not transfer data at Data+ and Data- are shorted. Once you are in AC charging mode, the phone takes over and determines how fast to charge. At low battery levels (less than 80% or so), the charging rate can be as high as 1000ma/h or the maximum the charger is rated to deliver. If the charger is rated to deliver more than 1000 ma/hr, the most your phone will draw is 1000 ma/hr.
Now there is another variable, the cable itself. Cheap cables sometimes have too much resistance to pass 1000ma/hr and can be the problem as well.
One other issue is the number of knock off chargers and cables out there. Beware of e_ay. You may not be getting what you think you are.
One final note, Apple designs the ipod to look for the Data+ and Data- signals to not be shorted (opposite of HTC and most android manufacturers). So chargers that are designed to charge Apple devices will need the Charging Only cables to charge android devices in the AC charging mode.
So if I didn't confuse myself, hopefully this will answering some charging questions. I've researched this and have tested many chargers and cables.
How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
Make sure the charger is 2.1 amp...if its a 1 amp, the combo of GPS, data, and screen on will still kill it.
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How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
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Yup, totally depends on the charger. Some cheap ones are only .5A and most are 1A, which probably still isnt enough when using GPS and screen on.
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How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
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Do yourself a favor and buy mandatory this quality accessories. After you do, forget your question
Car charger:
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Dual...=1407899058&sr=8-3&keywords=anker+car+charger
USB charging cable:
http://www.amazon.com/2-1A-30PIN-Ch...=UTF8&qid=1407899014&sr=8-6&keywords=kopi+usb
czaplin said:
Do yourself a favor and buy mandatory this quality accessories. After you do, forget your question
USB charging cable:
http://www.amazon.com/2-1A-30PIN-Ch...=UTF8&qid=1407899014&sr=8-6&keywords=kopi+usb
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How is an old iPhone charger going to help anyone with a G3? Also, what is "this quality"? I think you might've lost or misspelled a word there.
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How is an old iPhone charger going to help anyone with a G3? Also, what is "this quality"? I think you might've lost or misspelled a word there.
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Sorry, bad link.
Here's correct one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009Z...2e07d400f0894e43b48&pi=SS115#ref=pd_aw_sims_1
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I had this problem starting all the way back on Galaxy Nexus - crappy chargers and cables do not provide enough power to run the phone and the screen. My research and trial and error on many chargers lead me to understand that not only do you need a good high power charger, you need a good cable too. I now run 18awg charge-only cables exclusively as well as a 2.1amp charger. This pair has worked on all my devices since including fast charging on my G2 and G3.
Note that a charge-only USB cable has the data pair shorted and will only work for charging - will not work for data transfer. However the wires inside are thick and work great cars or other situations where you don't need the cable for data.
This is what I use:
Cable
http://www.netimes.com/shop/microusb-charging-cable-black-d-d-shorted18awg100cm-p-3699.html
Charger
http://www.netimes.com/shop/dual-usb-car-charger-adapter-10a-21a-white-p-4810.html
This company is from Hong Kong, but they have pretty fast shipping. It is the only place where I can find (affordable) heavy gauge USB cables.
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SOCOM-HERO said:
How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
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I had the same issue with a store-bought charger. It also depends on the amperage output of your vehicle's outlet as well.
If anyone is looking for one with a retractable cable, I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Micr...=8-2&keywords=2.1+amp+usb+charger+retractable