Hi. I bought the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, model C6833, and I havent gotten LTE on it, or at least it doesnt show that I am connected to LTE. I am always showing H+ or lower, depending where I go, but when I had my Note 2, I got LTE in the areas where it says H+. DId I get the wrong model or phone?
Phaze1585 said:
Hi. I bought the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, model C6833, and I havent gotten LTE on it, or at least it doesnt show that I am connected to LTE. I am always showing H+ or lower, depending where I go, but when I had my Note 2, I got LTE in the areas where it says H+. DId I get the wrong model or phone?
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C6806 is the AT&T LTE compatible device
awol.sin773 said:
C6806 is the AT&T LTE compatible device
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Thank you. I just hope its not too late to exchange it.
Phaze1585 said:
Thank you. I just hope its not too late to exchange it.
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your welcome any luck on the exchange?
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Engadget "When we reviewed the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, it was with the C6802, a HSPA+ model devoid of LTE bands. However, it seems that a speedy 4G version of the handset will arrive stateside soon, if this recent FCC listing is any indication. The document shows what is clearly the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, but with AT&T-compatible HSPA+ and LTE on board. This means it's likely the C6806, the handset's North American cousin, all set up to take advantage of Ma Bell's super-fast network. It doesn't look like there's too much else differentiating it from the international model however, so we'd take a gander at the review one more time to decide if it belongs on our wish list."
It would be very unfortunate with a branded Ultra since it would mean a crippled device with a crippled radio.
The C6806 standard edition offers both AT&T, T-Mobile and European bands (some slight differences there though, the 6806 has the 700 and the 6833 the 800 band).
So an unlocked C6806 is great but if Sony let a carrier fiddle with it, I guess that a couple of LTE bands will be removed (see what T-Mobile did with the Xperia Z C6606).
The best solution would be that Sony sells the Ultra unlocked through Sony Store - the C6806 that is. AT&T et al branding, bloatware and locked bootloader would destroy a magnificent device.
coming from a LTE ATT device to this, i can tell you, I DO NOT EVEN MISS LTE. for music,youtube,web,email,fb,cloud storage i do not see any difference
I was originally on the galaxy S3 with LTE, and switched over to a note 2 unlocked non LTE and sure, my speedtest scores aren't as high, and my downloads aren't as fast, but unless you're visiting some super graphic heavy site, it's not a huge diff. Plus LTE drains battery faster I believe. On a battery draining device such as the Ultra, you definitely won't want LTE constantly draining the battery. Especially if you're not on unlimited data.
I wish the C6806 was sold unlocked, but that's probably the Tmo version - which means they'll lock out a certain LTE band (700)
Funk2641 said:
I wish the C6806 was sold unlocked, but that's probably the Tmo version - which means they'll lock out a certain LTE band (700)
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You know, Negri Electronics has the C6806 up for pre-order.
AntiLazarus said:
You know, Negri Electronics has the C6806 up for pre-order.
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For what it's worth, Negri also had the Xperia Z NAM edition (6606) up for pre-order, and that is nowhere to be found except on T-Mobile.
I hope I'm wrong, but with Sony signing an agreement w/ TMo, I don't expect LTE devices to be sold unlocked by them in the US anytime soon.
The positive side is that if the C6806 is destroyed by a carrier, the C6833 will work in the US since it has the T-Mobile bands and can use AT&T albeit without the 700 band.
So an option in a worst case scenario is to get the C6833 imported for those that demand LTE.
Unlike the Xperia Z, the C6806 and C6833 are pentaband like the C6802 and offers LTE in addition. The C6833 should therefore be an adequate option for US customers if the C6806 is messed up.
I am still hoping that Sony will sell the C6806 unlocked in the Sony Store but the C6833 is a perfectly adequate option.
Personally, the lack of VoLTE made me skip the LTE versions in favor of the C6802. Streaming videos etc isn't really an option on US capped plans and the HSPA+ speeds I got on the 6802 is very adequate for browsing, navigation, picture uploads etc.
I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
Funk2641 said:
I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
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Sony sold the Xperia ZL LTE unlocked on their website, they might do the same for this phone as well, at least i hope that's going to be the case.
Funk2641 said:
I dunno, with the cost of C6833, I'd like the ability to use LTE with ATT.
It's kind of a no-win situation, since the C6833 will be available unlocked but without the 700 band, and the C6806 will be available but gimped.
bah
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How do you know that? I wasn't under the impression that any US carriers were likely to pick this device up.
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How do you know that? I wasn't under the impression that any US carriers were likely to pick this device up.
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It's rumored that Tmo might pick it up, since they have a exclusivity deal with Sony. Just speculation.
so currently the device will work fine on both ATT & Tmobile with HSPA+ right?
just no LTE
Z C6806 with LTE being sold for $630.00
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Son...-PURPLE.HTML?gclid=CPKFspmmkLkCFSVgMgodMW0AAQ
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cenkaetaya said:
so currently the device will work fine on both ATT & Tmobile with HSPA+ right?
just no LTE
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Correct - I have a Lumia 1020 and the Ultra Z C6802 on ATT. Here's some speedtests for you:
Ultra Z in HSPA (not even HSPA+) is getting 6Mb down, 2 Mb up
1020 in LTE gets 15Mb down, 11 Mb up
Despite the desparity, I don't notice that much difference in surfing. - not to mention the Z feels the fastest of any device used since the original Moto Xoom overclocked to 2GHz
Hope this helps!
I ran a SpeedTest yesterday and got a download of 8.3 Mbit/s on the AT&T network with HSPA+ and Straight Talk. A few minutes before, I ran another SpeedTest on the new Motorola Droid Razr Ultra and got... 3.5 Mbit/s - that's on Verizon 4G LTE.
So I am certainly very happy with the speeds I got on the Ultra in the center of Manhattan (the tests has been made near Grand Central).
randy_c said:
Z C6806 with LTE being sold for $630.00
http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Son...-PURPLE.HTML?gclid=CPKFspmmkLkCFSVgMgodMW0AAQ
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Great deal for sure. Anybody ever done any business with them? If not I'd probably be more comfortable buying from Negri.
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The positive side is that if the C6806 is destroyed by a carrier, the C6833 will work in the US since it has the T-Mobile bands and can use AT&T albeit without the 700 band.
So an option in a worst case scenario is to get the C6833 imported for those that demand LTE.
Unlike the Xperia Z, the C6806 and C6833 are pentaband like the C6802 and offers LTE in addition. The C6833 should therefore be an adequate option for US customers if the C6806 is messed up.
I am still hoping that Sony will sell the C6806 unlocked in the Sony Store but the C6833 is a perfectly adequate option.
Personally, the lack of VoLTE made me skip the LTE versions in favor of the C6802. Streaming videos etc isn't really an option on US capped plans and the HSPA+ speeds I got on the 6802 is very adequate for browsing, navigation, picture uploads etc.
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That's interesting... Looks like the C6833 is MUCH more compatible with North American frequencies than the C6603 was.
C6603 (Euro LTE Xperia Z) lacked UMTS1700 and UMTS1900 support, which meant no 3G at all on T-Mo and 3G only where AT&T had UMTS850 service.
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That's interesting... Looks like the C6833 is MUCH more compatible with North American frequencies than the C6603 was.
C6603 (Euro LTE Xperia Z) lacked UMTS1700 and UMTS1900 support, which meant no 3G at all on T-Mo and 3G only where AT&T had UMTS850 service.
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Sony took the decision to use a top notch LTE radio in order to overcome the old limitations that plagued LTE devices until now. The only thing I don't like is the lack of VoLTE and it is one of the reasons why I went with the C6802 instead of following the original C6833 plan.
The only band missing on the C6833 is the 700 one, otherwise it should work nicely in the US meaning that it is a great option if it would end badly for the C6806 (i.e. carrier branding, removed bands and locked bootloader).
Anyone out there rocking the XZU model: C6806 on AT&T? If you are, does yours shows that your getting LTE? I have the C6833, cause I thought this got LTE, but all I seem to get is H+
So, if your getting LTE, please let me know. Thank you for your time.
Yep, I'm on ATT with a C6806 and getting LTE. Had to switch to the ATT APN when I flashed CM, but yes, definitely getting LTE. And the 6833 doesn't get LTE for ATT, doesn't have the right band IIRC.
Yep LTE works great on the C6806. Was in LA the other day getting 30+mb down and 20+ up.
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There are some locations in which the 6833 will get LTE but it's so not likely that it's not advertised as being compatible for AT&T. Even so, there were reports that some folks needed to have a recognized IMEI associated with their line of service to get LTE despite model and APN.
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Hi Phaze1585,
When I had my Z Ultra LTE (C6806), I was getting LTE on AT&T. However, there are two things you need in order for this to work:
1. Band 17 support which the C6833 does not have. However, AT&T may support band 4 (which the C6833 does support) sometime in the future but don't know when. If you look on Wikipedia and search LTE bands, it says AT&T supports bands 4 and 17 but AT&T currently implements band 17 predominately. There are reports on this forum that the C6833 should work on T-Mobile's LTE since they are using band 4.
2. The SIM card needs to be activated or associated with an AT&T LTE phone. If it is an LTE phone but not "approved" (basically sold) by AT&T, you will only get HSPA+. Not related to Z Ultra but in lines with the point, I purchased my dad a Xperia ZL and activated a new SIM with AT&T (previous phone was a Moto Atrix 2, HSPA+ only). When I booted the phone, it only connected with HSPA+. When I inserted my SIM which at the time was associated with a Galaxy Note 2, I was able to get LTE on the Xperia ZL. Similar stories can be seen by searching on Google.
Hope this helps.
OK Question:
I have been trying to find reliable information on this specific question for quite some time.. I am wondering two things:
How well will a Sprint Samsung S6 work unlocked on T-Mobile? I was comparing Basebands or bands or whatever and it has most of the LTE bands but none of the 3G bands. Does that mean that IF I was in a place where LTE was not available that it wouldn't be able to connect to 3G? How well would this work?
Thanks
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OK Question:
I have been trying to find reliable information on this specific question for quite some time.. I am wondering two things:
How well will a Sprint Samsung S6 work unlocked on T-Mobile? I was comparing Basebands or bands or whatever and it has most of the LTE bands but none of the 3G bands. Does that mean that IF I was in a place where LTE was not available that it wouldn't be able to connect to 3G? How well would this work?
Thanks
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3G will work.
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3G will work.
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Ok Please give me more information. how well will it work? Perfectly all the time?
If you are in the United States, by law the carrier cannot "lock" a phone to be only activated by their own network. You may have to call them to get it unlocked though. They may request for you to pay off the ETF on it, which is usually the remaining balance of the discounted phone on contract.
So really there is no such thing as a locked phone anymore, at least not for now. The hardware on the Samsung S6 should be the same for all carriers, the only difference should be the SIM card.
It seems the Z5c lacks 1700MHz band 4, which should mean Telus and Bell (same for T-Mobile?) are **** out of luck for LTE. Can anyone with the device or more knowledge confirm?
That's strange that they dropped it, though according to this, it shouldn't be a big deal either:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/usa-buyers-guide-sony-xperia-z5/
Just got my Z5c, and did a Speedtest.net
The results are 28Mbps/11Mbps, which is as good as I got using LTE on my Nexus 5, though my antenna bar reads "4g" not "LTE".
So I don't know what to tell you!
No, no AWS, but speed as good as AWS anyway.
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Just got my Z5c, and did a Speedtest.net
The results are 28Mbps/11Mbps, which is as good as I got using LTE on my Nexus 5, though my antenna bar reads "4g" not "LTE".
So I don't know what to tell you!
No, no AWS, but speed as good as AWS anyway.
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4G is LTE.
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4G is LTE.
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Indeed, however all promo screenshots of the Z5 show "LTE".
Here's an /r/android post I just did with some more info:
Disclaimer: I'm not educated in the technical aspects of mobile radios, and the following info rests on the shoulders of forum reading and a small amount of real world testing.
This should be the same across all Z5 phones - Compact, Regular, and Premium.
Telus, Bell, and to some degree T-Mobile and AT&T use band 4 LTE. Telus/Bell specifically use 1700/2100 AWS for LTE. I got my E5823 this afternoon (black Z5 Compact), and I've been fawning over it all evening. Here's what I've found on my Telus network:
I'm reliably getting ~30Mbps down, and ~12Mbps up.
My Z3c reliably gets ~30Mbps down, and ~28Mbps up.
Which makes sense, as I'd seen a couple forum posts saying that 2100MHz is for AWS down, and 1700 is for AWS up, and the Z3c supports both while the Z5c only supports 2100MHz.
For me, this is good news, as I was afraid I'd be on 3g all the time, and not having full upload speeds don't bother me, as 99% of my uploading is on wifi.
In other news, this phone is AMAZING. Happy to answer any other questions re: data or the new phone.
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Thank you for the info. I recently discovered another variant "e5803" instead of the model mentioned here and elsewhere e5283. It seems to list the same radio frequencies but could this just be a naming variation or will this be the US model similar to z3c d5803?
Lastly, if we are purchasing a supposed "international" model, will Sony USA provide us warranty or would be from the seller?
Really interested in your input before I fork over $$$ on this cool phone.
tudork said:
4G is LTE.
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Not in every country. Please refer to this:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/usa-buyers-guide-sony-xperia-z5/
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Does anyone know if the Verizon Moto Z will work with a GSM sim?
Why would you buy it from Verizon when they will have the GSM unlocked version in a couple of months.
I just picked up the Moto Z from Verizon, and while they are factory unlocked, the phone has message that the sim is not a Verizon sim. And I'm not getting LTE, just H+, even though the at&t LTE bands are supported.
Mrswift91 said:
I just picked up the Moto Z from Verizon, and while they are factory unlocked, the phone has message that the sim is not a Verizon sim. And I'm not getting LTE, just H+, even though the at&t LTE bands are supported.
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did you change the apns for lte?
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did you change the apns for lte?
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Yes I did. Still on H+
I think what is interesting is when you goto motorola.com and build one in MotoMaker no where does it say it is for Verzion (or unlocked for that matter). Little misleading to non-Verizon consumers.
I have full LTE service on my Verizon Moto Z and Moto Z Force on AT&T in California. The phone actually functions better when I delete the APN completely and reboot the phone rather than typing in the actual NXTGENPHONE APN. You may want to try that.
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I have full LTE service on my Verizon Moto Z and Moto Z Force on AT&T in California. The phone actually functions better when I delete the APN completely and reboot the phone rather than typing in the actual NXTGENPHONE APN. You may want to try that.
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Yeah, I did that, no go.
Must be different markets using different LTE bands.
i got the z force from moto maker. it works perfectly on cricket which is the same as at&t. the phone picks up lte everywhere i go in Houston